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@Lewis2k
2 жыл бұрын
It makes the car very very hard to control and maybe could be dampened down a touch but credit to everybody who can drive on these wings, especially on controller with no traction.
@danielhayward5799
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the car still works decently cause the floor is generating most the downforce with these cars??
@Lewis2k
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhayward5799 Potentially yeah, because the lower to the ground mechanism this year allows for that but with the minimum amount of wings selected, makes it the hardest possible setting to play on.
@chillaah2000
2 жыл бұрын
Try comparing serious laptimes with "normal setups" from worldrecords and the 0-0 setup
@math.m9495
2 жыл бұрын
because of under body downforce every body can use under 10 front or rear wing even in hungry in my opinion but tyres wear will be higher
@tbgnnation2967
2 жыл бұрын
Down force are different in these cars because of the ground effects generates majority of the downforce. Ground effect on cars still produce downforce in the high to low speed corners . when you lose a piece of your front wing in this game, the car still drivable .
@juanbrenner1648
2 жыл бұрын
yes true
@bean2705
2 жыл бұрын
Realistic judging by leclerc at Silverstone
@tbgnnation2967
2 жыл бұрын
@@bean2705 facts.
@nekaneka-lo2js
2 жыл бұрын
Yup...that's the whole reason why I play on simulation now. You can get away with a LITTLE contact like in real life
@Werkvuur
2 жыл бұрын
You just blew my mind, lol. I just lost my front wing in a race earlier today and I was surprised it was more drivable than in F1 21. Now it all makes sense.
@scott4207
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think it should be banned, however the handling model for it needs tweaking. Braking efficiency (increased braking distance) need to be adjusted IMO, and the cornering speed. If they are both worse, then the advantage on the straights is equalled out. From what I see in your video, there’s very little compromised
@monkeybox3618
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah here he’s doing the same braking points as everyone else but logic says that if he’s using less downforce he would take longer to slow down, but here that doesn’t happen.
@CristanioPeweyyy
2 жыл бұрын
braking distance is fine
@beemrmem3
2 жыл бұрын
@@monkeybox3618 he’s also better than these guys. Hard to do like for like. Also a lot of these cars downforce Is under the car. Wings have a lot of drag.
@space5486
2 жыл бұрын
They just need to fix the aero model. It's a known issue right now
@drapows5095
2 жыл бұрын
One thing to note : Soft tyres with low fuel and 5 lap races I wouldn't consider this viable in a 50% or full length race where Mediums and Hards come into play...
@jansonb482
2 жыл бұрын
I did that, it was fine tbf
@aidantucker7510
2 жыл бұрын
from my experience it is even more powerful on mediums and hards for some reason
@parzival_theman
2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately it is viable in normal league races too.
@isaacpowrie465
2 жыл бұрын
@@aidantucker7510 probably because you get less traction on them and the less downforce you have the less affect the tyres will have on the traction.
@isaacpowrie465
2 жыл бұрын
@@parzival_theman but everyone can run 0-0 wings so is it really that bad?
@rikardz1986
2 жыл бұрын
No ban. You gain on the straights, lose on corners.
@Simo-ho1ml
2 жыл бұрын
Not really a lot on corners
@DG53
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@tbgnnation2967
2 жыл бұрын
@@Simo-ho1ml ground effects also produced down force in high to mid corners. He should try it at track with a lot of low speed corners.
@azzifyy5988
2 жыл бұрын
@@tbgnnation2967 Low speed corners rely on mechanical grip so in theory the higher the corner speed the more time the car should lose.
@Ghostxx
2 жыл бұрын
you barely lose on corners tho thats the whole point
@francesco5254
2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is that tyres aren't that much affected, while in real life you would struggle so much everywhere with traction, braking and turns. They really need to adjust some parameters.
@adaocan8310
2 жыл бұрын
Tbf in this year Front eing doesnt do much Floor and sidepod (mostly floor) Thats why when max had damage to his floor he was so slow. And leclerc was still fast with no endplate
@DevilWolf000
2 жыл бұрын
This is a videogame dont compare it to real life.
@francesco5254
2 жыл бұрын
@@adaocan8310 endplate damage did not significally affect performance in previous years too. Floor damage has always been a big issue. It's obviously true that in 2022 floor generates more downforce and wings generate less of it, but this videogame's parameters need a slight revision because we never saw a 2022 F1 car working with 0 front and rear wing load. As the videogame tries to be close to reality, these configurations should create bigger problems for the e-drivers than they currently do.
@senseikawasaki2326
2 жыл бұрын
@@francesco5254 0 doesnt mean 0 load, 0 is the lowest possible which is different from 0
@francesco5254
2 жыл бұрын
@sp1878 good point, I hadn't thought about this possibility
@nsx_montana
2 жыл бұрын
Love the option to go very different on setups on this game tbh
@DraqzF1
2 жыл бұрын
Yo A Challenge for the Master in wet conditions: try to get a World Record with 0-0 wings 🤣🤡 You can decide which track
@MrWuffels
2 жыл бұрын
50 Wings on the Front gives you around 400kg of downforce and 50 Wings on the Rear gives you 600kg of downforce. That's 1000kg in total. Front is producing around 110kg of Drag while the rear is producing around 270kg of drag. so that's 380kg of drag in total. The underbody, when set to the lowest setting, is around 2000kg of downforce. So the Groundeffect does around two third of the downforce job alone. Ground effect does produce less drag in lower settings. Let's assume 0-0 means there's no downforce and drag produced at all at the wings (I doubt it's like that). And let's assume the downfall according to the settings is linear. That would mean, when the others are driving with 10-10, there's a difference in downforce of about 205 out of around 2205 kg in total. That's not that big of a difference if you look at the complete picture. So that it is not that bad in the corners is fine. However, this also means a difference of 76kg of drag. The speed difference for that is really quite high. And as I said: I don't think 0-0 means that there is none produced at all, so the difference in drag should be much smaller in reality (reality of the game). I think they have to work on their drag model
@Almin88
2 жыл бұрын
How did you calculate the weight of downforce?
@MrWuffels
2 жыл бұрын
@@Almin88 developers released this information on official forums. But they only gave these exact values, therefor I'm also lacking the knowledge of the minimum Values and how the graph looks depending on the setting. I also have no insights how the physics work programmatically, so I'm not able to calculate that myself. So most of this stays assumption and speculation, although I'm confident that my conclusion isn't that wrong
@senseikawasaki2326
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrWuffels 0-0 its definetly not 0 downforce and drag because it wouldnt make sense but the rrst of the assumptions is right i think They should work on tyres, by using that setup you should destroy them in a race but this doesnt happen
@jraybay
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrWuffels 😨
@MrWuffels
2 жыл бұрын
@@senseikawasaki2326 like I said, I doubt that it doesn't anything on 0
@alexissar
2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the days when Grand Prix 2 was the main F1 game and the ideal wings for each track were 12/1. Loads of straight line speed and the front wing made up for some downforce and a stiffer rear suspension made up for the oversteer...
@alexissar
2 жыл бұрын
@@ChefofWar33 My bad, I meant stiffer front and softer rear 👊🏼
@_blakep
2 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could make a video or maybe explain the difference between an intermediate and a full wet setup? I’ve seen wet to dry but intermediate and full wet conditions are very different and I end up just using the same thing for both
@JK-tj6ie
2 жыл бұрын
I usually lower the wings compared to the wet setups and add a bit more front wing since you normally want more rotation the dryer the track is. Also for me I use 90% brake pressure for wet, 95% for inter and 100% for dry. If you are into setups you want (in my opinion) a softer suspension the wetter the track becomes.
@vientoscambio
2 жыл бұрын
This would be great, I've always struggled with adapting setups to different conditions and I can't find any video about it
@SurF1Nyt
2 жыл бұрын
It’s best to have a setup that is easy and fact fastest on both intermediate and wet. This way if you switch tires mid race the tune will still apply. Even better if the tube is fast on dry too in case in gets dry mid race.
@STRIKER-rs7br
2 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense why a lot of players myself included are struggling with OP AI in championship mode. I mean if a top end player like yourself can do this well then the AI is probs running next to 0 wing also. I'm gearing up to do Saudi next, doubt ill get away with running overly low wing there.
@apophisstr6719
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about 110 AI since I'm not good enough for that, but for 100 AI, all you need is lower the total amount of downforce by about 2 clicks from the default setting of each track and you'll be able to beat them on the straight. The real issue is that the AI seems to often have more total ERS than you. Often we forgotten about the performance and R&D progression difference between cars/teams, just test it in Gran Prix mode and you'll see it makes a huge difference.
@hugonilsson138
2 жыл бұрын
This is way to OP. It almost doesnt affect your driving what so ever it seems and you gain that much speed. The thing is that wings should affect grip that much this year since the downforce mainly comes from the groundeffects an by this logic the drag shouldnt be affected in this way. The downforce should be a in some sense personal preference in what you want to sacrafice, cornering speed/straight line, tyrewear/ERS etc not like this. Ofc its supposed to be faster drive low wings on monza and high on Budapest but you should still be able to play around a bit. This is just unfair.
@robertdevald
2 жыл бұрын
Been using 0-0 wings ever since F1 2019, it's great for multiplayer. You're practically unpassable on straights and it's easy to defend corners :D
@apocalypticweasel9078
2 жыл бұрын
fairly sure that was not possible you could only go as low as 1 - 1 in both games
@robertdevald
2 жыл бұрын
@@apocalypticweasel9078 Yeah that's what I meant, you're right
@angxlzj
2 жыл бұрын
I think its realistic since the downforce is in major part generated by the floor so the adjustments on the wings aren't too much of an impact as they did on prevoius games where also we noticed that the car without frontwing was undrivable, and so far we know that on the f1 22 a broken wing doesn't feel like 21
@mobius8407
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone can use it, and takes time and effort to master. No additional cost or conditions, so it should stay. If we are talking about realism, then there might have to be a revision of this EDIT: Also consider that over longer races, you being competitive in the corners also depends on your tire pressure, which means that for better grip in corners using lower pressure degrades tires way faster. So Idk
@ahmetardasensoy
2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that with 0 wings, the car is still driveable. I don't think it should be banned; however, with some updates on the game, they definitely change the car's grip on the corners or driveability. Without this, 0 wings will be the next meta, and everyone will try to adapt their driving style according to this condition. This will kill the game and create colourless competitions.
@qksf1645
2 жыл бұрын
POV: AI in every track
@dominicdecoco7950
2 жыл бұрын
Straight facts
@matteoroda
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is due to the fact that most of the downforce is generated by the floor and not by the wings, so you can get very low drag but still mantain a decent level of downforce through the floor. I also noticed that in f1 22 if you lose the front wing you won't be as slow as in f1 2021, which is a similar case in real life F1 I think.
@MrBears215
2 жыл бұрын
That smile on his face tells everything, 0-0 is to OP!😁
@_mercedez
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing to see that these cars still have a lot of downforce without front wing
@ChrisTheMoiler
2 жыл бұрын
If 0-0 is faster than any other setup that is an exploit in my opinion and needs nerfing immediately. Makes the granular 50 clicks of wing pointless. You also gain ERS ridiculously quickly, further extending the exploit.
@Dygear
2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the old Live For Speed days when everyone was running high rake cars before you'd seem Red Bull doing it. I lucked into a 0-0 set while I was doing some software dev stuff for F1 22. I changed the wings to 0-0 as I said, but I also took the tire pressures all of the way up to 25psi front and rear. For some reason, when you do that you get higher speed AND better breaking (that makes no sense as you should have less of a contact patch.) Check it out. It's crazy. I was racing around Monza with no ABS and I don't recall locking my tires with high PSI settings.
@balazsulveczki342
2 жыл бұрын
A few observations from a theoretical point: - As others pointed out, the groundeffect makes these cars very different from previous ones, less reliant on wings considering pure downforce. Lower wing setups make more sense. - Ground effect create more downforce on the back end, so 0-0 should be horribly understeering. - I think that the end points of possible setups should be far enough that they are unusable, forcing players to find the ideal balance for each track and style somewhere between. This is obviously the case in real life, you don't see cars without any wings even on Monza. This is where a change would be welcome. - Bannings makes no sense. At worst, 0-0 is the best setup, and almost everyone uses it, but banning it woukld simply mean even more people will use the allowed minimum wings. - I always hated the less wings = more ERS thing, that is not how things work. Your engine won't work any less, but the same work will result in higher speed. The only positive correlation is the longer breaking (from higher top speed to lower cornering speed) and less time spent in the straights at full throttle, but that shouldn't be something this notable.
@GlassTecRacing
2 жыл бұрын
all these words for what is really just bad development by EA
@robertdevald
2 жыл бұрын
Another tip for Spa and Monza; run a 0-0 wing setup, and if damage is enabled, break off your front wing on purpose by rear ending someone. The difference in cornering grip is negligible and you get like 10+km/h of top speed on the straights ON TOP of the already ridiculous 0-0 wings top speed. You can reach over 350km/h like this!
@azzifyy5988
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I find this a bit silly. The official F1 game should represent real life to some extent regardless of if it's an arcade game. I'm not a fan of this especially when it'll hurt setup diversity at some tracks.
@jedimarz1225
2 жыл бұрын
The game does represent real life bro. Less Downforce from wings and more Ground effect . Won't effect diversity unless everyone adapts their style. Always tweak Setup to your style. I don't use 0-0 at Monza.
@federcio2
2 жыл бұрын
It has always been arcade. For years.
@MA-90s
2 жыл бұрын
But it is real life. You can buy sofa's in this game. Fuck me I was rocking 11 - 11 - 11 - 11 Springs (I think it was) Back in 2012/13. [shakes head].... Codemasters... No clue, after 10 years...
@azzifyy5988
2 жыл бұрын
@@jedimarz1225 Does it? I'll be intrigued to see if teams run 0mm of wing angle in Monza or at any other race track. You have to balance out the downforce a car creates front to rear otherwise it'll be undriveable. No F1 car is aerodynamically balanced by having no wing angle in the front and rear.
@ChefofWar33
2 жыл бұрын
Yah. This is going to VERY quickly become the meta for almost all tracks that arent too downforce heavy.
@Baconism
2 жыл бұрын
I think its fine and I use it myself at Monza and Spa, front and rear wing aren't the main downforce generator anyways so it makes sense that you still have a decent amount of downforce even with 0-0 wings
@ahmetardasensoy
2 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Jochen Rindt, 1970 F1 world champion who died in the crash after deciding to drop the rear wings to reduce drag in Monza GP. Rest in peace champion
@ianfitzpatrick3231
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't tell if that was TRL Limitless driving or Hulk Hogan.... LOOK AT DEM PYTHONS!! Keep flexing and driving bro!
@Matt7R
2 жыл бұрын
I think I saw someone that modded F1 2021 to always have DRS open and the lack of rear downforce drastically reduced their traction to the point where it was basically unusable. That's what this should do, considering how much the straight line speed is increased. Just goes to show how little effort CM really put in this year. EA telling them not to work too hard because there's no competition in the F1 game market lol
@businesscat1521
2 жыл бұрын
IF the wings are working as intended and not bugged on 0 / 0, then it's a skill worth learning. Once the meta gets out there and more people understand, it will be perfectly OK. I do think they need to change 'reset to track' so that you can't use it unless: A) you are stationary, and B) you aren't actually on the track
@jacobviney8299
2 жыл бұрын
0-0 works because a lot of the down force comes from ground effect to reduce dirty air
@SDRaygon
2 жыл бұрын
5:45 Haas wanting to greet the fans mercedes 1955 Le Mans style
@brocksamson5786
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you limitless.....just got out of 3 ranked races...everyones doing 217 in the straight...lmao. its just like acc and the neg camber/toe, its just an exploit, and its not that hard to handle on elite settings. Cheers
@AndyPerry1972
Жыл бұрын
I just think it is the risk you take. If you can handle the car like that knowing it is more difficult then it is a fair game. I suppose as long as they make the effects a little more realistic, such as where you said about the tyres, then I don't see the problem. I was wondering if this was why Elite was so quick, but I guess if this was the case he would be even quicker!
@ElNaniFIFA
2 жыл бұрын
I run it at Monza, it’s different gravy there. Not sure I fancy it any other track though
@gavin-cy
2 жыл бұрын
I guess it is because codemaster want to recreate different spec of the car parts, like extreme low downforce spec of Alpine. Not to recreate it by making new 3D model, but to recreate it by extreme low downforce setting.
@petuyeyt1050
2 жыл бұрын
If you can still exploit/manipulate it in only some tracks then I suppose it wouldn't be that broken. In my opinion, there are an equal amount of tracks that this would work and not work in. Street circuits like Monaco, Baku, Singapore, Saudi, Melbourne, Montreal and Sochi could use these very well but every other circut requires a significant amount of downforce.
@jaymate4556
2 жыл бұрын
Kind of similar to the 2022 porpoising problem in that you can change the setup from fast and difficult to drive, to slower and stable or safer to drive. There's definitely an argument to say that it is more likely that the already quite skilled people will use this. Once these people are comfortable with it, the skill gap will increase from the slower people to the faster ones. I don't think it should be banned but maybe just patched. The number represents the wing angle I think so irl wouldn't 0 just be a completely flat wing creating almost no encouraged downforce?
@andrecarrato6359
2 жыл бұрын
I think it shouldn't be banned as it's available for everyone who dare use it. I also think this setting fits perfectly JD due to his extreme downshifts and braking skills.
@denny1006
2 жыл бұрын
No need to be ban, it's equall for everyone. But pros if they figure out how to get back downforce with setup and with 0-0 wings will be a monsters
@jonathangille8643
2 жыл бұрын
I think its just how F1 is in general. Even if you havethe corner speed its almost impossible to pass, sure u could kick to the outside but the moment the staight comes u cant finish it in time.
@BIGMAC991
2 жыл бұрын
Works on Monza for sector 1 and 3. You lose out sector 2. Not enjoyable on other tracks if you don't want to run on a knife edge the entire time
@jamescurrie7678
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video about the difference in technique of driving the new cars verses the old, I am a reasonable driver and was pretty competent on the game for the past 3-4 years but now seem to really make pace in 22 and struggle so much with traction
@harveybyrne615
2 жыл бұрын
18:26 double overtake just like Schumacher and haikkenen
@Nockspielt
2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is more downforce + better laptimes, but on tracks like monza and spa it could be faster. We need to test it on time trial.
@Dakkyun
Жыл бұрын
When you are bad at cornering you bring the grip limits down to your skill level but gain on the straights
@SuperCesarlopes
2 жыл бұрын
Did you wash after? That was dirty! :-D was great to see, Im going to give it a try, at least just for fun to check it out.
@bp33562
2 жыл бұрын
Talk about an overtake with the haas on the Ferrari on the first corner on first lap
@josephiousbrosif
2 жыл бұрын
This definitely needs a performance update. Even though these cars are more about ground effect a real car with basically no wing angle would be a disaster and would absolutely chew up its tires regardless of driver skill. Maybe the scale should be 1-50 instead of 0-50 since there's no such thing as 0 wing irl
@thijsssstoer332
2 жыл бұрын
1/50 instead of 0/50 is maybe the best thing i’ve heard
@gabood
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using very low wings around Bahrain, not 00 but not far off
@davinci8257
2 жыл бұрын
I think with how these cars generate downforce, its not completely inaccurate but I feel like 0-0 should only be viable on certain tracks but still a bit sketchy. I would say, using some ERS and DRS, you should be able to stay within DRS range unless you make a mistake
@pluuk666
2 жыл бұрын
Considering wether it's op or not, I think it would be better if you competed against someone your skilllevel not only in 5 lappers but also longer races. I don't think it's OP considering you lose in corners, but if you compare it to casual players while you are somewhat top of the drivers so it's a bad idea to compare cornering speed when casuals don't know that well how fast they can drive the car through the corner.
@fblazquezgil
2 жыл бұрын
They need to increase the DRS speed, decrease ERS speed and take away a lot more grip to low wings setup’s.
@zaac6582
2 жыл бұрын
You have to nail every apex and maximise corner speed and exit speed otherwise it won't really work.
@NonstopRam
2 жыл бұрын
I found this out accidentally while experimenting with the set ups. Medium traction control helps too lol
@crimsonsuperman
2 жыл бұрын
All I could think of when you made the triple overtake was the Jeremy Clarkson gif lmao
@noduj
2 жыл бұрын
I think thats just how these modern cars work, most downforce comes from the floor.
@jamessmith1652
2 жыл бұрын
Surely either side of ideal aero balance should be a drop-off in performance. Or occasionally, two ideal values but still drop-offs either side. This is just plain wrong that one extreme (0-0) has not dropped off enough. I could easily see lower league races using 0-0 frequently. Also the speed advantage is so insane I think you could gain a lot of ERS from life and coast into the braking zones.
@Phil_3491
2 жыл бұрын
A slight adjustment is definitely needed if they take the real life F1 cars of 2022 as an example to model their handling.
@olliep8117
2 жыл бұрын
Just one more example of Codemasters not testing their games properly. Same with the PS4 version crashing and freezing the first week. Seems like the AI in career also have 0-0 wing glitch on higher difficulties. I was in a Williams with DRS and ERS employed, and a Haas just blew past me on the straight at Canada no problems.
@bradleyleenards881
2 жыл бұрын
Low wings is da way to go, low wings is op on this game
@DG53
2 жыл бұрын
And so it should, no wonder redbull is super efficient.
@theibaneztamer5072
2 жыл бұрын
Could you not just do like 5-5 wings or something low like it to balance and get a bit extra cornering speed whilst not losing too much straight line speed? Or like tinker with the psi for some extra grip? Also I've always wondered why he's been using KPH for a while now whilst being an Englishman? Can we have MPH please lol
@UltrasRapid1992
2 жыл бұрын
This is ridiculous. thanks for showing. You should be MUCH slower through corners and also on corner exit, even when the majority of todays cars downforce is created by the underfloor. Imho it should be almost undriveable apart from straights and slow speed corners (where mechanical grip is more important).
@mert.ozturk
2 жыл бұрын
i think this setups would be so good in random online lobbys bc the problem in online lobbys even if you 2 sec faster they can defend u at corners then use his overtake on straights.. but with this setups you can go corners same speed with him but at the straights you can pass him easly. like u said i dont think in league racing this setups would be good as online lobbys
@bguard100
2 жыл бұрын
If you can use it and become more consistent with less downforce then it should not be banned, Really its just down to set up if you can find more mechanical grip elsewhere, as long as its not fixed set up seams legal to me.
@Alonsooooo1
2 жыл бұрын
Since the first couple of days I literally do this on every track
@ejcourtemanch2689
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it needs to be banned, but there probably needs to be more tuning with the downforce / drag ratios with the different downforce settings. Maybe turn down the downforce at lower wing levels so its not just the objectively best solution (which is the conclusion that the community seems to be trending toward). Could also nerf how much ERS you save just for using this. I think overall the setup system in F1 22 needs tuning. Lower wings aren't punishing enough to downforce levels. Tight diffs are pretty much undrivable. Etc. I think the issue is not that its OP, its that when one setting becomes the objectively best solution on many/most/all tracks, it defeats the point of setups, to tune the car to the track/driver combination.
@davidrsteve1394
2 жыл бұрын
Dont, i was having lots of fun yesterday at monza🤣🤣, my friend didnt know about this setup. Its absolutely nothing they can do on the straight, i just left them to dust. When i think it back, ai maybe using this setup😂 they have so much high top speed
@defnotatroll
2 жыл бұрын
That Mercedes engine onboard sound is PERFECT on this game
@madspedersen9787
2 жыл бұрын
I think this doesn't work any more since the last patch. now the tires are horrendous if they get over 100 degrees.
@G_F.W_H
2 жыл бұрын
I think a fix would be that you would have to have your ride height near the absolute right end for both front and rear to be able to drive with 0-0 wings. That would be one of the easiest fixes for this; I don't have this game as yet, but when I see things like this, as well as the amount of bugs so far in the game, it really makes me not want to buy this game. It's like things were just slapped together to create this game without any diligence.
@BoozySZN
2 жыл бұрын
I love how he spins and just grins and thinks to himself "ill be taking over you all later" lol
@Arda.D
2 жыл бұрын
Hell of a video that was. Is your setup is just 0-0 wings and all the remaining ones are as same as balanced setup? Thanks mate 🍻
@llShaneII
2 жыл бұрын
In light of setup realism, and competitive integrity, this shouldn't be a thing. It's one thing if it's in a casual/solo mode, however in any kind of competitive enviroment this souldn't be thing and should be adressed
@TrojanIsLive
2 жыл бұрын
This is what it must feel like to ride the 2021 Ducati in MotoGP.
@jonasberlingswe
2 жыл бұрын
Actually they have a small front wing...
@iwatch4100
2 жыл бұрын
You are smart to find out in the game that you can run with the wings set to 0. The truth is, you go faster in a straight line, but, cornering it may have less grip and faster tire consuption, but, for the tires who cares for only 5 rounds?
@bilador607
2 жыл бұрын
Make a video: Zero wing x All wing at a regular track, like france or brazil
@JWGBM
2 жыл бұрын
Its OP and faster than 98% of races and open lobbies but f1 esports amd top 0.01% open lobbies would be a worse option imo. You should try 0-0 in a league race to see what it's like.
@beninho106
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow managed to make it that 0-0 is like 1-1 in older games and 11-11 is like 11-11 in older games... meaning everything above 11 is sketchy in some way or the other.
@battlefieldfan111
2 жыл бұрын
The plan behind the 50 Ticks was, that the 20-20 Setting for example would be the same behaviour in the car on every track. In F1 2021 the 1-11 Setting was depending on the Track. For Example the 11-11 Setting of Monza would give you a car with less downforce than a 1-1 Monaco Setup.
@ChefofWar33
2 жыл бұрын
@@battlefieldfan111 Yah. I like the new change. It makes predicting the car much better. But it clearly needs tweaking, low downforce should be, well, low downforce. lmfao
@scottb2k30
2 жыл бұрын
If you can handle the lack of downforce its all fair game. Youd probably lose more time spinning than you do gaining in a straight line
@its_matt_long
2 жыл бұрын
From here on: When you know you're racing against a Limitless follower.... neeeeeeyowww
@lucadevincenzi9075
Жыл бұрын
You like one of my friend we call the restarter because each time he spin on itself he restart the game.
@mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168
2 жыл бұрын
It seems like they've addaed indy 500 cars to the F1 game Btw i don't think it should be banned , maybe tweek the downforce delta between any click on the wings , but not the drag.
@EauRouge
2 жыл бұрын
I reckon it is a skill...as you said, everyone can use it.
@jrdntylr9835
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see a problem with it, and it makes sense you can use it cause the downforce/suction comes from under the car, so in essence your just removing drag.
@joerith00
2 жыл бұрын
It should definitely not be banned, but it should be fixed. IRL they can also use 0-0 wings, bit it wouldn't be drivable, that should be the same in the game, that's what they need to fix
@dai__36
2 жыл бұрын
It’s like running the Ferrari 2004 in classic car races 😂
@trigger1631
2 жыл бұрын
In monza you can drive 0-0 and even without a wing. Overtaking is king there
@Formula4Dopemine
2 жыл бұрын
This completely negates the need for 50 points of wing. Like what’s the point if everyone is running 0-0 or single digits with very little or no consequences at all. If it were up to me I wouldn’t ban it but I would severely nerf the points. Like you wouldn’t be making it to the top of Raidillion. And nor should you be able to. But I also want the F1 games to start leaning more into sim territory.. It is damn funny though, Code Masters were super proud of their 50 points of down force and how it was going to make setups more impactful and important to focus on. Psych! Turns out running 0-0 is the optimum strat 💀
@slackface1
2 жыл бұрын
50% race might be different for 0-0, but 5 lap looks OP.
@theprojectchannel5045
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why they had so many adjustments for downforce I think the 11 from the other years were plenty
@GlassTecRacing
2 жыл бұрын
Lost my front wing in Monaco, barely made a difference
@Naindurth
2 жыл бұрын
sounds like ground effect doing its magic. Wasn't that the whole point of the new regulations?
@chrissdevano
2 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't ban it but instead tweak it so at least it won't be the fastest over a single lap Tweak the slipstream + DRS + ERS + everything else, not the 0-0 wings in particular
@danielshim7550
2 жыл бұрын
This is how i see it. If the game designers and developers gave you the option to use zero - zero wings, then it's totally acceptable. If there was a bug/glitch where by you have 30 - 40 wings but have the ability to out-drag the entire field, then yes, it should be patched.
@jose21crisisTM
2 жыл бұрын
It's a standard setup compromise. They might need to tweak the downforce factors, but banning? Nah.
@mattjohnston5632
2 жыл бұрын
Did you soften your suspension much to try and prevent understeer? Seems bonkers quick none the less.
@randomperson6125
2 жыл бұрын
Earliest I have ever been to a video on your channel. Love the content JD
@senseikawasaki2326
2 жыл бұрын
0-0 doesnt mean NO wings, it makes sense in some track to use the lowest downforce possible
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