The Official did a great job handling it. As fans we really appreciate the explanation and just straight up saying that it's a weird thing.
@azultj09
6 жыл бұрын
I love how he adds that it's an unusual ruling!
@newerest1
6 жыл бұрын
lol if he was just like "ruling on the field is 1 point safety" everyone would have been so confused
@nickjohnson3815
5 жыл бұрын
Go utes
@pronkb000
3 жыл бұрын
@@newerest1 That was how it was for Texas vs. Texas A&M the first time this happened. The official there treated it like it was an everyday occurrence. Cherry straight-up said, "Okay, y'all, shit 'bout to get cray."
@Youlikethat3
2 жыл бұрын
There trash
@Cybop-xd9mm
7 жыл бұрын
I like how it happened to the same announcer 😂
@MarcLloydZ
7 жыл бұрын
sellbullion thats incest.
@licotacolin
7 жыл бұрын
sellbullion Shut the fuck up, lol
@samtoshner8002
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I just finished watching that one - it's funny because the announcers had no idea what was going on with it back then, and this one makes so much more sense
@drayfinmania
7 жыл бұрын
Kevin mchebri Yeah
@maestroclassico5801
6 жыл бұрын
Kevin mchebri yes! I just watched the Texas-A&M game video...and YES! Same announcer 9 years apart! He'll retire if he sees it again!! 😂😂
@scottjaffe8840
8 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it's the same commentator that covered the Texas-Texas A&M one point safety in 2004.
@JBakerH
8 жыл бұрын
I know right! what are the odds!
@tylerradke2061
8 жыл бұрын
Its the same ref too, i think.
@Grotesk
8 жыл бұрын
Not the same ref, the ref was a white guy at the A&M vs Texas game.
@sturttv
7 жыл бұрын
It's actually the same 2 commentators! Brad Nessler who was speaking about it and the color commentator, Gary Danielson.
@justinreeder3514
7 жыл бұрын
Actually, the color guy here is Todd Blackledge and back in 2004, it was Gary Danielson. Same play-by-play guy (Brad Nessler).
@honorguard88
8 жыл бұрын
SEE? THESE refs are doing their jobs!
@godli6063
5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Bak oh wow I didn’t think someone would reply to a 3 year old comment on the same day I am going to. Wowzers
@joshtusinger8357
4 жыл бұрын
@@godli6063 4*
@hughjanus700
4 жыл бұрын
@@joshtusinger8357 now its 4 a year ago it wasn't
@12tony88
4 жыл бұрын
@@hughjanus700 fr
@20SUKUNA
3 жыл бұрын
@@hughjanus700 Now 5 year old
@CPez
7 жыл бұрын
LOVE how it was the same commentator and he vividly remembered the Texas game.
@darkkaioken
7 жыл бұрын
IKR... in that KZitem vid he was completely lost. Now, he's like "I can't believe I saw this again.... and understand it now"
@hockeypbp
5 жыл бұрын
He DIDN'T remember the Texas game until after the ref made the call. Having seen the play once already in his career, he still didn't get it right.
@clamstain
5 жыл бұрын
i love that he said, if it happens to me again, i'm retiring
@ilyazhitomirskiy9218
9 жыл бұрын
What's even funnier is that the referee is the same one that gave the "he was giving him the business" call in a Maryland- NC State game.
@bywill9923
8 жыл бұрын
Number 69 was giving him the business
@DaTwistedOne1
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, to bad he stole that line from Ben Dreith, who used it in 86 in a Jets-Bills game.
@secbj1
6 жыл бұрын
Ron Cherry was the R, he was paying tribute to Ben Dreith when he made that statement
@herbertt.viking1449
3 жыл бұрын
Legend.
@hiimemily
10 жыл бұрын
"On the previous play, we have an unusual ruling..." You don't know the half of it.
@harryberrisford7364
9 жыл бұрын
+Trevor Plays lol its the 2nd time
@meganegbert8570
3 жыл бұрын
Your parents are so disappointed in you
@hiimemily
3 жыл бұрын
@@meganegbert8570 They've supported me the whole time, try again.
@meganegbert8570
3 жыл бұрын
@@hiimemily doesn’t change the fact youll never be a woman
@chriswebster24
3 жыл бұрын
If you cut off a man’s weenie and put him in a dress, he’ll be a man with no weenie, wearing a dress. If you cut off your own weenie and put on a dress, you’ll be a mentally ill man with no weenie, wearing a dress. A man can go his entire life without anyone ever knowing he has mental problems. He can choose to change his name, and start calling himself a woman, too, though, if he wants to make it obvious to everyone, but that’s all up to him. He is free to choose.
@baronvonswag
3 жыл бұрын
I was watching the A&M Texas game at a bar with a bunch of Aggies and Longhorns. And when it happened everyone was equally confused! Even after they awarded the point no one in the bar cheered. It was just a "Thanks? I guess?" moment. And then I saw THIS game on TV when he mentioned it!
@liamgriffin218
2 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, this is just saying "the kick is good" with extra steps. Still really interesting, and I tried this in Madden and was surprised that it actually works. Although there's an odd glitch where it shows as 1 point on the score board, however the announcers mention it being worth 2 points and the score breakdown tab shows it being worth 2... But the final score will still say 1 less than that. Basically the score may add up to X according to the breakdown, but the total will show as X-1
@TonyStebbins
7 жыл бұрын
I love that the ref said "we have an unusual ruling"
@DavidGee51
6 жыл бұрын
The kicker's all, "Now I get that point, right?"
@danthemankhan
7 жыл бұрын
That was a forward pass. The foul occuring in the endzone should be a safety anyway, however.
@darkkaioken
7 жыл бұрын
The key is that extra point scenarios are, technically, outside of game time since the clock doesn't run during it. It stops after the touchdown and doesn't start again until after kickoff return. This is why you still get to kick your extra point after scoring a touchdown when the last play runs the all the game time off the clock. So, since extra points happen in the space between for a game, this ruling is unique that the event technically isn't live, just a switch of possession. So, instead of a standard 2 point safety, it's only a 1 point. The more impressive thing, which we've seen happen a multitude, is that it's possible for the defense to score a touchdown during an intercepted extra point and never change the game clock time a second.
@grovergarver3104
7 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, if the defense scores a "touchdown" on the conversion play, it's worth 2 points.
@jhaz89
2 жыл бұрын
What the hell did I just read....And as the other guy said, the defense (or offense) could only score 2 points on a "try" after a TD. Your comment can simply be put that "tries" after a TD have their own rules. There's no actual association with the fact that the clock doesn't run on "tries" after TDs and why it's a 1 point safety instead of 2. It's just simply because they have their own set of rules.
@theoriginalbadbob
8 жыл бұрын
Lateral, my ass; that was a forward pass.
@iambobby3537
8 жыл бұрын
Still would have been a dead ball.
@joeryan6321
8 жыл бұрын
An illegal forward pass in the end zone would have the same result, a 1-point safety.
@marvelousrex2866
7 жыл бұрын
Like a few other people said, it wouldn't make any difference to the score. If they call the illegal forward pass in the end zone, whether Oregon takes the call or the play, it doesn't matter. The result is still the same, a 1 point safety. With that said, I agree that they still should have made the call, regardless of the outcome. Not only did they miss it on the field, but the review missed it as well.
@rickhaavisto9023
2 жыл бұрын
@@marvelousrex2866 Review didn’t look at it because it didn’t matter…
@stillgaming
11 жыл бұрын
I remember being pissed throughout the commercial break because I knew that was a 1-point safety. Thankfully the refs were on point that day and fixed it later. It's a weird rule but makes sense. It's the rarest scoring play ever achieved, but not the rarest scoring play ever. The defensive 1-point safety is astronomically improbable but possible. I'm not going to describe the rule, but let's just say it'd require a Leon Lett situation on a blocked extra point for the rule to even start.
@jhaz89
2 жыл бұрын
Well an accidental one, yes. But it would actually be very easy to make happen. All it would take is an offense purposely running all the way back into their endzone on a conversion attempt, which would essentially be done as a taunt. So the only criteria for it would be a team that is blowing another team out and a ballsy coach who is willing to deal with backlash for being an asshole. Probably would need to either be bad blood between teams, or the coach really good friends with the other coach and know that they wouldn't get upset by it, or run with the "We did it because it's never been done before and most football fans don't even know that rule exists, so we thought it would be intriguing for football fans and one for the record books." That might work
@frankconti8042
3 ай бұрын
@@jhaz89i hope someday it happens in a blowout. 6-1 is rare cause the game is still too close for antics. Maybe something like 32-1 could happen if the coaches know each other in a meaningless week 18 game like the Flutie drop kick.
@justinberg8687
7 жыл бұрын
1 point safety confirmed! love that the refs got this unusual play right on the field...crazy
@mrjimi1
7 жыл бұрын
That's not a hard explanation. It's literally the same as a regular safety, just that you only get the one point because it is a PAT.
@nicolasmartins5601
5 жыл бұрын
mrjimi1 he said unusual, not difficult
@mrjimi1
2 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasmartins5601 I don't think that is what I was talking about. I think I was referring to when the commentator referenced how he was happy it was explained by the ref. The only thing that really needs explanation is the one point aspect. Hence my comment.
@TheDCGuitar13
5 жыл бұрын
That ref waited his whole life for that moment.
@martiansyrup4331
5 жыл бұрын
So what happens if theoretically the kicking team takes the ball 98 yards backwards and gets a safety, is that a 1 pt safety to the other team, therefore making a possible score of 6-1. That would be weird
@Namath1000
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be 6-1. Note, though, that's only in college and pro football not high school.
@tnyamaneko6093
8 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Brad Nessler was also the commentator in 2004 for the match between Texas and Texas A&M, possibly the first (and only other) time in NCAA history that this ruling was called.
@covey3416
8 жыл бұрын
No shit sherlock, he literally said that in this video. *facepalm*
@tnyamaneko6093
8 жыл бұрын
D'oh, somehow, I missed it, what a way to embarass myself =/
@Crystal_Bull
7 жыл бұрын
I love that the other popular video of this, of Texas and Texas A&M, features the same guy calling the play. Lmfao!
@MarcLloydZ
7 жыл бұрын
Fidget the Nimbat no sht sherlock
@nathanielstove8662
8 жыл бұрын
the reason they get the point for the safety is that it forces the kicking team to stop the blocking team from returning the blocked kick (which results in a defensive 2pt conversion which happened in the NFL for the 1st time last season)
@DaTwistedOne1
7 жыл бұрын
Um.. Duh...
@trwent
6 жыл бұрын
What is important here is that, on ANY play, even a PAT attempt, it needs to be possible for EITHER team to score at ANY time, as long as the ball is live. If, after the ball is kicked and then blocked, only the team that blocked the kick had the opportunity to still score, then that would not make for good football. That is the real reason to have the possibility of the 1-point safety for the team that had its kick blocked.
@owenmurphy924
2 жыл бұрын
I love the roar from the crowd when he said "1 point safety"
@ameenbendaoud
8 жыл бұрын
if this was just a normal 3 point field goal would it just be a normal safety
@ptusasgugfhfg
8 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe so.
@joepaulo5653
8 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is a play where someone of the blocking team catches the ball out of the end zone, brings it into the end zone and gets tackled for one point. If it were a field goal it would be two.
@ArtMonkforHallofFame
8 жыл бұрын
agreed. And if this had been a 2-point conversion attempt (instead of an extra point kick) resulting in an interception and then fumble in the endzone, that too would have been worth 2 points.
@leonmatthewsiv1699
8 жыл бұрын
false...still 1 point because it's on the try after touchdown.
@Chaoticsaur
8 жыл бұрын
+alas jajo he was asking if it was a regular field goal, meaning it would be 2 points.
@jhaz89
3 жыл бұрын
I found out about the rule because I was looking at the scoring rules in fantasy football and saw 1 point safety and thought "what the hell is that?." I then Googled and KZitemd it and couldn't believe I didn't know about that.
@corytoews5222
8 ай бұрын
Can we just think about it this way? On the try, scoring is a little different: touchdowns are worth 2, field goals are worth 1, safeties are worth 1.
@jimjohnston5719
6 жыл бұрын
I think the issue is this: Here, the ball is blocked, touched by the defense while in the air, behind the line of scrimmage. This results in a live ball (thus the fact it can be returned). In the Texas-Texas A&M game, the holder failed to hold the snap, which is a fumble. Texas' kicker then kicked the ball into the scrum at the line of scrimmage, which could have resulted in a penalty for an illegal touch/kick of the ball, since it was intentional. However, the refs let that go, allowing the live ball to bounce around until TAMU downed the ball in the end zone. Here, the Oregon player tacked the K-State player in the back of the end zone. The ball must cross the line of scrimmage in a PAT situation in order to be considered a dead ball. In neither case did the ball cross the Line of Scrimmage before the block or fumble occurred. Thus the ball was live and the 1-point Safety was enforced. I saw this in a High School game once (might be on KZitem now, not sure) where the ball was blocked behind the line of scrimmage and went about six yards down field. The offense said 'Golly gee.' and started to walk off, one of the defenders, realizing it was a live ball, picked it up and scooted downfield for a score.
@Namath1000
3 жыл бұрын
On a PAT in a high school game? In Texas or not in Texas?
@michelcharbonnier7603
10 жыл бұрын
That's the only play in our playbook. We just score TDs to set up 2-point safeties.
@101moosefan
9 жыл бұрын
You can get a single point in Canadian football all the time,a single (single point, or rouge), scoring one point, is awarded when the ball is kicked into the end zone by any legal means, other than a successful field goal, and the receiving team does not return, or kick, the ball out of its end zone. It is also a single if the kick travels through the end zone or goes out of bounds in the end zone without being touched, except on a kickoff. After conceding a single, the receiving team is awarded possession of the ball at the 35-yard line of its own end of the field. Singles are not awarded in the following situations: if a ball is downed in the end zone after being intercepted in the end zone if a ball is fumbled outside the end zone if the kicked ball hits the goalposts (since the 1970s; before then it was a live ball) when a kickoff goes into the end zone and then out of bounds without being touched In all these cases the defending team is awarded possession of the ball at the 25-yard line.
@joepaulo5653
8 жыл бұрын
Wow, Canadian football is unusual.
@DieFlabbergast
8 жыл бұрын
You mean "different," not "unusual". It's perfectly usual in Canada, after all, where it is American Football that is "unusual." I'm neither American nor Canadian, just in case you were wondering.
@capt459
5 жыл бұрын
I'll take answers to questions no one asked for 1000 Alex.
@mmoreau84
11 жыл бұрын
No. The safety was scored on an a try (extra point attempt) after Oregon scored a touchdown. By rule, the team scoring the touchdown, and thus snapping the ball on the try, must kick off after the try is completed, regardless of which team actually scores on the try. The same would be true if Kansas had actually run the ball all the way back for a 2-point touchdown.
@Locker146
10 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to have just 1 point in football? Like the score be 6-1? Let's say team Y is attempting an extra point after a touchdown, and team Z blocks it and returns it like 95 yards and gets hit and fumbles, and someone on Team Y picks it up in the field of play (like somewhere around the 5yd line of the opposite end zone of where the extra point was being kicked), and while trying to avoid defenders runs back into his own end zone and gets tackled. Would that result in a 1pt safety making the score 6-1?
@billboardbomber9016
10 жыл бұрын
No. If someone fumbles it and the defense gets tackled in the defensive end zone it is ruled as a touchback.
@chanman876
10 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe it would, according to Wikipedia.
@bittsmuggler50000
10 жыл бұрын
U can't return the pat...
@kylepeel324
10 жыл бұрын
buttsmuggler50000 You can return the PAT in college
@jwbaumann
9 жыл бұрын
Yes, it would. But it's never happened. College football only, not pro.
@chrish931
4 жыл бұрын
In Canadian rules football there is an interesting rule, because there are no touchbacks in the kicking game, all balls must be fielded and returned out of the endzone on punts or missed field goals, if a returner on a missed punt or field goal is down in the end zone or the ball is recovered and downed by the kicking team in the end zone on a punt or a field goal its one point. With the goal post in play in Canadian football and the endzones 20 yards deep, many missed field goals don't clear the end zone and you will see the defensive team quite often punt the ball back to the team who missed if they cant field it out to avoid giving up one point. There was a great highlight from a game a few years back where a team down by one went for the go ahead field goal with only a second on the clock and missed and the two teams ended up punting it back on forth several times before someone was finally tackled. It called a rouge in Canada and I don't fully understand all the rules to it but it makes for some interesting highlights on special teams.
@callmecanez
3 жыл бұрын
"If this happens to me again, I'm retiring." I bursted out laughing when I heard this. I don't know why.
@hgb0005
11 жыл бұрын
The way a 1 point safety can be awarded in the NFL is a (technically) non-missed kick that results in a safety for the defense BUT which cannot involve the defense gaining possession (which is what is so weird and thus happens even less than in college). This happens if the holder fumbles the snap (so there is no kick to miss), then a defensive player bats, muffs, kicks (mishandles) the fumble (not gaining possession) and it goes out of bounds behind his own goal line
@braxtonmealey1286
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't care about either of these teams, but I remember watching this game thinking "Wow! I didn't know there was such thing as a one point safety".
@robertrandolph9824
11 жыл бұрын
The period during a football game immediately after a touchdown is considered a special period in which scoring has different points values. Touchdown-2 points, field goal-1 point, safety-1 point.
@grovergarver3104
11 жыл бұрын
The scenario being discussed that allows for a 1 point saftey in the NFL does NOT involve a FUMBLE -- it involves a MUFF. If the defense gains posession of the ball in the field of play of play there is no saftey. But if the defense causes it to go into the endzone without gaining possession of it (that's MUFF not a FUMBLE) and a saftey can occur.
@grovergarver3104
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are correct on what a muff is. I was answering the question about how a 1 point safety could be scored in the NFL. And this was 3 years ago, before the NFL changed the rule to allow the defense to score on the conversion play. In THAT SCENARIO the defense had to MUFF the ball and in doing so, cause it to go back into their own endzone.
@codyelliot3652
2 жыл бұрын
Was the fiesta bowl I remember watching this when I was 5 years old.
@djbackspin911
Жыл бұрын
You never would have thought a 1 pt. safety will ever occur until you somehow watch this vid
@fprosk
11 жыл бұрын
I could see the kick being blocked or the snap fumbled, defense trying to run it back but fumbles right before they get to the end zone, and the offense either gets tackled in their own end zone or kicks the ball out the back to prevent the D from getting 2 points. That would be a crazy play.
@the_return024
Жыл бұрын
Want to see that in NFL playoffs
@terrywilder9
7 жыл бұрын
I heard there was a play when the goalposts were at the goalline at the front of the endzone of a kicker making a field goal through the goal posts when a defensive player caught the ball in the endzone and ran it back for six. Apparently the holder as seen by the player did not touch the ball and the play was ruled a punt.
@xiii-Dex
7 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that just be ruled a drop-kick?
@terrywilder9
7 жыл бұрын
Sounds logical but must a drop-kick touch the ground? It must have been banned before the goalposts were moved back. Even now I don't believe there are any current nfl, ncaa of cfl rules saying when an offensive team cannot punt? I wonder if the varying ruling bodies keep track of the reasons for adoption of these "exotic" rules and the even more "exotics" plays they were meant to prohibit.
@xiii-Dex
7 жыл бұрын
Well, if the holder never touched the ball, wouldn't it be on the ground? Maybe it was supposed to be a drop kick, and it never touched the ground? (no holder involved)
@terrywilder9
7 жыл бұрын
xiii-Dex Somebody made the point that a few fake field goals that were really punts had been executed in the past.
@ojjuiceman
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a team doing the opposite and get a safety on the kicking team thus allowing them to have a score of 6-1. If you bet a dollar on a 6-1 final score football game the payout I have heard is around a billion dollars. I also heard Vegas won't make that bet on the offset it actually does happen but I think that's all rumors
@craptainofsea
2 жыл бұрын
So lets say a team scores a TD and gets ahead 6-0 and is then going for 2 and the ball ends up rolling backwards and goes into THAT endzone and is recovered by the team going for 2....would the score then be 6-1?
@dredbud9272
2 жыл бұрын
As soon as he tried to fumble the ball forward the play was over.
@Namath1000
2 жыл бұрын
First of all, it wasn't ruled a forward pass so no, the play was not over. Second, the play would be over when the forward pass hit the ground incomplete, not when he threw it.
@TheGeneraI
Жыл бұрын
I reference this weekly just to sound smart
@itslilyaythefinessekid2798
6 жыл бұрын
it will be a regular safety and if your team scores and they get a safety trying to get that 2 pt conversion that results in 1 point
@itslilyaythefinessekid2798
6 жыл бұрын
for the other team
@edub9716
6 жыл бұрын
Say what Kanye? You sound just like the real one. Stick with your music, brainiac!!
@calvins6083
3 жыл бұрын
I was at this game, I witnessed history
@DaTwistedOne1
11 жыл бұрын
Also, this is taken directly form the NFL rulebook. "A fumble going out-of-bounds in the endzone being defended is ruled a touchback if the defensive team forced the ball into the endzone. The ball is turned over to the defensive team."
@livewire2759
8 жыл бұрын
It appears that nobody has asked, what seems to me, an obvious question. If Kansas State returned the ball to Oregon's end zone, would that have been a one point touchdown?
@drmayeda1930
8 жыл бұрын
no that would have been a touchdown same as usual. If you think about, this is a safety. This was the Kansas state end zone and a kansas state player had posession of the ball and downed the ball in HIS own endzone. That is a safety,
@livewire2759
8 жыл бұрын
drmayeda, yes i'm well aware that it was a safety, the question is about how many points are awarded. J-roc, not trying to argue but can you clarify? It was my understanding that Oregon only scored 1 point for the safety because they were kicking for an extra point, therefore only 1 point is allowed on the play. Is that correct or do the rules specifically say 1 point for a safety and 2 points for a TD, in this scenario?
@bywill9923
8 жыл бұрын
2 points
@ryanb4533
8 жыл бұрын
2 points. Oregon could have faked the field goal and gone for two, and the actions of the play (the fact that they actually kicked it) don't have any impact on the amount of points available. Also, it stands to reason that the defense should get more points for returning a PAT for a touchdown than the offense should get for screwing up their attempt and then lucking out that the defense ran back into its own endzone. As J-roc said, 2 point touchdowns are are much more prevalent than this. I think the announcer said this has happened twice in the history of college football. 2 point touchdowns probably happen in college football at least once every season.
@lth5015
7 жыл бұрын
Live Wire would have been 2 points but that shit happens all the time compared to a 1pt Safety
@limegreenelevator
11 жыл бұрын
It would also work on a fumbled 2-point conversion attempt, I'd presume, as long as the defense did not gain possession.
@63besgasman
11 жыл бұрын
I forget who was playing but in a college game a couple years ago the first score of the game was a touchdown but the extra point was blocked and the other team ran it all the way back, which made the score 6-2 :-o
@Dewey247
2 жыл бұрын
I was at this game and I was young but I’m very surprised I don’t remember this
@BEASTMODE-mv3gs
10 ай бұрын
So I’m confused I thought what had to happen was that the kick is blocked, returned for like 80 yards to the opposing teams end zone, than is fumbled recovered by the kicking team and then they’re tackled in there own end zone.
@jonemeigh5588
9 ай бұрын
In the NFL, I believe that’s how it used to be, but the NFL changed its rules in 2015 to mirror the college rules that any team returning a blocked kick now is “the offense”. So now it may happen in the NFL (it almost did in a Buffalo/New England game).
@jacobrklein7175
5 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, and it would have stood even if the player wasn't tackled in the end zone, as that clearly was a forward pass.
@Namath1000
3 жыл бұрын
Looked like a forward pass to me, but it wasn't ruled that way.
@jgk381
10 жыл бұрын
So did Oregon get the ball back too, like with a regular safety?
@leviwagle9368
10 жыл бұрын
It's different than a normal safety, Kansas state gets the ball off a normal kickoff.
@jasonluong3862
Жыл бұрын
Did the kicker still get credit for the 1-point score?
@kellamlloyd9770
10 жыл бұрын
So... What would happen if Oregon had recovered the ball in the end zone? Would they still get a point? Would kansas state get a point? Please tell me if you know the answer? Thanks
@grovergarver3104
8 жыл бұрын
+kellam lloyd If the kicking team had recovered it in the end zone, it would be 2 points for a successful 2 point conversion.
@forrestjinks6306
2 жыл бұрын
Can this happen going the other direction also? If the defending team blocks and returns the ball 97 yards but is stripped short of the end zone and the original kicking team recovers in their own end zone is this 1 pt for the defending team?
@robertlunderwood
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. It would require the offense to recover the ball outside the end zone, then go into the end zone.
@forrestjinks6306
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlunderwood not necessarily. If it’s blocked and returned to the other end of the field and fumbled right before scoring, if the ball rolls into the end zone, at that point it’s a live ball and the blocking team could dive on it for 2 but if the original kicking team dives on it, it’s a 1 pt safety
@robertlunderwood
2 жыл бұрын
@@forrestjinks6306 No. That would be a touchback. The offense would need to establish possession outside the end zone first before going back in the end zone. Your example would be valid if no one recovered the fumble and it just ended up being kicked or rolled back 100 yards.
@forrestjinks6306
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlunderwood I guess that makes sense because of the change of possession. I hate that the fumble recovery in the end zone automatically puts the recovering team on the 20.
@eagleknx1179
2 жыл бұрын
Let me explain it the simplest way possible basically he got the ball out of the endzone and then ran it back into the endzone causing a saftey he if caught it when it was just in the endzone it would have been a tb
@drakepristash
7 жыл бұрын
It kind of looked like a forward lateral to begin with but either way the ball was brought back into the end zone.
@g00gleminus96
7 жыл бұрын
Happens all the time in Canadian football but that's because the rules are significantly different.
@B3Band
7 жыл бұрын
This is why you just let the ball hit the ground when it's blocked on an extra point. Unless you're sure you can return it 100 yards the other way, why risk going backwards (or a holding penalty while in your own end zone) and letting the other team score?
@grovergarver3104
7 жыл бұрын
If the defense left the ball alone, the offense could pick it up and run it in for 2 points. Only if the kick goes beyond the neutral zone, should the defense leave it alone.
@bayarea510
11 жыл бұрын
texas and teaxs a&m 1 point safety was actually 6 years ago just saw it on youtube
@atomicgiraffe250
8 жыл бұрын
Should be an illegal forward pass too
@quentinmilligan8582
8 жыл бұрын
+bvestationfan it was not a forward pass, the pass was backwards. also, the pass wasn't caught, so it was just a fumble.
@akabuca96
8 жыл бұрын
+bvestationfan either way, a penalty in the end zone results in a safety so same difference
@grovergarver3104
8 жыл бұрын
+Quentin Milligan FYI, if it was a forward pass (and that's what it looked like to me) then it would be an incomplete forward pass if it hits the ground. An illegal forward pass is still a forward pass and as such, is incomplete and a dead ball if it hits the ground uncaught.
@joepaulo5653
8 жыл бұрын
Illegal forward pass would be a penalty in the end zone so it would also result in a safety.
@atomicgiraffe250
8 жыл бұрын
0:56 No disrespect, but that looks like a forward pass to me. The play is dead because it's incomplete, the flag in the end zone results in a safety. Same result, just different sequence of events.
@loganstolberg2743
2 жыл бұрын
So it happened to Nessler twice?
@tylerholmes9579
8 жыл бұрын
Is this just an NCAA rule or could it happen in the NFL too?
@paulyo4
8 жыл бұрын
just ncaa
@evansjohnc
8 жыл бұрын
Tyler Holmes Well, the NFL added the ability to score by the defense on a conversion attempt last year. So , I guess it could occur there too.
@paulyo4
8 жыл бұрын
Nah the nfl doesn't have the 1 point safety.
@lastnamefirst6471
8 жыл бұрын
+paulyo4 yes they do it just hasn't happened since like the1950's
@paulyo4
8 жыл бұрын
the ball would be called dead prior to the 2015 rule changes. So no, the is no one point safety . Even if it was in the nfl I doubt we would ever see it.
@xapie128
7 жыл бұрын
So technically you could have a football game that ended with a score of 6-1. Crazy.
@sachitagrawal6086
7 жыл бұрын
xapie128 no. The team that does the touchdown got the 1 point
@lth5015
7 жыл бұрын
Technically yes but that would be much crazier than what you saw here. The defense would somehow have to score a safety on the offense on the other side of the field.
@DaTwistedOne1
7 жыл бұрын
It IS possible but only in theory. It would require the team kicking the PAT to be downed in the opposite endzone. Which we know would require the ball to go backwards nearly 100 yards..lol
@AEMoreira81
7 жыл бұрын
+DaTwistedOne1 - and that can only happen in NCAA. In the NFL, it would be a two-point safety (starting with 2015, with the PAT moved back to the 15 yard line, a blocked PAT is now a live ball).
@lth5015
7 жыл бұрын
Adam Moreira no, any safety scored during a PAT is a 1pt Safety
@tekkenfan01
4 жыл бұрын
This one play changed the whole game
@Smiae
7 жыл бұрын
So what would happen if the defensive player fumbled in the end zone and the offensive team recovered it? Would that be 2 points, the same as a two-point conversion?
@grovergarver3104
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, that would be a successful 2 point conversion
@stevenheminger7882
5 жыл бұрын
So had he not picked the ball up and tried to advance it the ball is dead right?
@xavierking2449
12 күн бұрын
Sounds like a Canadian football rule called a single or rouge
@neverevenheardofit
11 жыл бұрын
Did Oregon get the ball back on a free kick after this?
@JavierArveloCruzSantana
4 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand what a one-point safety is. Can someone explain it? (I'll Google it, but I still wish to hear from you all.)
@Namath1000
3 жыл бұрын
A safety that happens on a conversion play (extra point or 2 point conversion attempt) is only worth 1 point.
@austinharger2932
5 жыл бұрын
What if this situation happens during a field goal and not an extra point?
@MH_0015
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it would be treated like a normal safety (2 points) for the kicking team, and they would get possession of the ball.
@Blaze21st
11 жыл бұрын
actually thats only true in the nfl. in college the opposing team can run a PAT back for 2 points. but this guy retreated into the endzone and downed the play, giving k-state the safety
@MidnightMoses69
8 жыл бұрын
Is it the fact that the ball was recovered in the field of play, then carried into the end zone by the defense, where the ball carrier was tackled that made this a safety?
@melodrama8728
8 жыл бұрын
Alex Harvey yes had it just rolled out or 1st recovered in the end zone. . then 0 pts
@snowman113
8 жыл бұрын
well the Texas A&M play he references in this video is that exact scenario and it's called a 1 pt safety so I don't really get it.
@chipspangler736
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, exactly that. The only reason it's a safety is because the blocking team had possession of ball outside of the endzone, and then they brought the ball into the endzone themselves (and then they were tackled / ball was downed). If (as Melo Drama said) they initially took possession when they were already inside the endzone, and were tackled there, it would be zero points. They have to take the ball back into the endzone themselves after possessing it outside of the endzone.
@blakkjack21
11 жыл бұрын
Also would be a safety for an illegal fwd pass in the end zone.
@evanadams2597
6 жыл бұрын
So what happens if Kansas fumbles in the end zone after getting the blocked field goal and Oregon recovers it? Do they still get one point or do they get nothing because they missed the pat?
@paulsonj72
5 жыл бұрын
Since that would be a touchdown if it was during a timed down Oregon would have gotten 2 points on the 2 point conversion
@RadicalCaveman
8 жыл бұрын
Looks like there was also an illegal forward pass, but they didn't call it.
@quentinmilligan8582
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Lubin it was not a forward pass, the pass was backwards. also, the pass wasn't caught, so it was just a fumble.
@nocalsteve
8 жыл бұрын
+Quentin Milligan It was a forward pass but it didn't need to be called because the resulting line of scrimmage at the end of the play was in the end zone. It would've been pointless, pardon the pun, to call an illegal forward pass on a safety.
@grovergarver3104
8 жыл бұрын
I looked like a forward pass to me. In fact, it looks quite clearly forward to me.
@joepaulo5653
8 жыл бұрын
Had he completed the illegal forward pass and brought the ball out of the end zone then it would be a one point safety for penalty in the end zone.
@jorgenaranjo8029
8 жыл бұрын
or the penalty would just be declined, resulting in a one point safety too
@albinokoolaid
3 жыл бұрын
God Bless
@tonytom5242
7 жыл бұрын
Rule is bazaar... but makes sense Its as if a kickoff play went to the endzone and the Receiving team does not down the ball and kickoff team tackles the runner in endzone...Safety
@theog9594
7 жыл бұрын
No, still a touchback as the ball never went out of the end zone
@YagoStecher
7 жыл бұрын
If kickoff team tackles a returner that he himself went into his own endzone: 2 point safety.
@grovergarver3104
7 жыл бұрын
No, the receiving team has to possess the ball outside the end zone and then bring it back into the end zone for it to be a safety.
@trwent
6 жыл бұрын
I think you mean bizarre, not bazaar.
@VeltynTV
2 жыл бұрын
This ain't a reeeaal one point safety but I'm glad everyone else is having it that a team scored literally one point
@Namath1000
2 жыл бұрын
Why ISN"T this a real one point safety.
@reddabos
Жыл бұрын
@@Namath1000 he’s referencing the Jon Bois scorigami video where you have a defensive 1 point safety where the team runs it all the way back, but they fumble, then the other team gets the ball and the safety happens 100 yards in the other direction
@Namath1000
Жыл бұрын
@@reddabos OK -- but both that play (the one describe) and the the play that happened in the Fiesta Bowl are REAL one point safeties.
@ryanfowler2669
7 жыл бұрын
forward lateral too?
@deemann123
5 жыл бұрын
when you lose the game by 1/2 point :[
@TheMaddenComebackKid
9 жыл бұрын
But it's an extra point... Isn't the ball declared dead at the block and therefore non-returnable?
@ToxicKlay
9 жыл бұрын
+TheMaddenComebackKid not in NCAA rules. and as of this year, not in NFL rules either
@TigerWoodsLibido
9 жыл бұрын
No. The ball crossed the line of scrimmage after being blocked and was recovered by Kansas State in the field of play (so now KSU has the ball and is attempting to return it) the player that recovered the ball in the field of play then retreated into his own endzone and the ball ended up dead there, so it's a safety. In this case (on the try after TD) a safety results in 1 point being awarded to the team that scores the safety.
@Maddenmvp_yt
Жыл бұрын
So they tried to kick the extra point but it got blocked so they didn’t get the extra point but they got a 1 point safety which basically was the same as making the extra point
@marcuscook6990
Жыл бұрын
Same announcer two 1 point safety's that's insane
@realEmoSedillo
5 жыл бұрын
let's say the score was 0-0 and oregon was going to kick a field goal and the kick was blocked and kansas state brought it back into the endzone. would it be 1-0 Oregon
@rickhaavisto9023
5 жыл бұрын
realEmoSedillo No, it would be 2-0, because it wasn’t during a try after a touchdown.
@alyssagentry4950
7 жыл бұрын
that is awesome RAWR XD!!!
@AEMoreira81
11 жыл бұрын
BTW, it should be noted that the referee here is the same one who "was giving him the business".
@Brucev7
4 жыл бұрын
and don't forget Red Cashion 'Referee Givin him the business' kzitem.info/news/bejne/lIKEsKJ-iYedlH4
@Karthos1000
7 жыл бұрын
Now I just want to see it happen to him again and see if he does retire. :p
@mjnarcy
7 жыл бұрын
"If this happens to me again, I'm retiring." That's the best line from this clip.
@CRMdrifter
3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintMyTaint which is weirder the fact that you replied to a comment from 3 years ago or the fact that your getting mad over nothing.
@PaintMyTaint
3 жыл бұрын
@@CRMdrifter The fact that you joined in two months later to make an assumption that I am mad over something.
@CRMdrifter
3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintMyTaint was it that bad of an assumption
@PaintMyTaint
3 жыл бұрын
@@CRMdrifter It wasn't great
@CRMdrifter
3 жыл бұрын
@@PaintMyTaint why not
@bradmorgan60
8 жыл бұрын
lol well at least they got the extra point
@clintross7778
7 жыл бұрын
lmao
@danoly215
5 жыл бұрын
Brad Morgan And they get the ball back
@lightyagami3492
5 жыл бұрын
@@danoly215 LMAO ikr
@Namath1000
5 жыл бұрын
@@danoly215 They don't get the ball back.
@ahappynigerian
3 жыл бұрын
@@danoly215 did you not see the Oregon kicker out on the field at the end of the video?
@okrajoe
8 жыл бұрын
Gimme my one point. 1 in a million.
@black-op345gaming5
6 жыл бұрын
okrajoe as someone who watched this game that was funny
@davezanko9051
9 жыл бұрын
Starting with the 2015 season this is now possible in the NFL. A blocked PAT attempt (which is now taken from the 15 yard line) is now a live ball, and the defense can attempt to return it for 2 points. (Likewise, a turnover on a 2-point attempt, which is still taken from the 2 yard line, can be returned for 2 points). However, if the defense's attempt results in a safety (like in this game), the kicking team is awarded 1 point. Even weirder and more exceedingly unlikely is the return attempt resulting in a second turnover (say a fumble on the kicking team's1 yard line) giving possession back to the kicking team, only for the kicking team giving up a safety in their own end zone. That would result in one point being awarded to the (original) defense. Which means that it is now possible, though incredibly improbable, for a game to have a score of 6-1. It's actually the only way for a team to have a total score of 1 point.
@lawman34
9 жыл бұрын
thank God you clarified
@LilOak
9 жыл бұрын
+Dave Zanko very interesting. How did you find this out
@davezanko9051
9 жыл бұрын
+OAKED MUSIC It was mentioned in some of the season previews in the local papers. Google it, stuff will turn up.
@grovergarver3104
8 жыл бұрын
+Dave Zanko The 1 point safety scored by the offensive team (that is, the team trying the conversion) has ALWAYS been possible in the NFL.
@davezanko9051
8 жыл бұрын
+Grover Garver if you mean the one where the defense gains possession and then backs into its own endzone only to be tackled (like in this video), then no. Before this year, any turnover on a try was an automatic dead ball, as in high school rules. That's what changed this year.
@VampireYoshi
8 жыл бұрын
Completely correct call. They recovered the block but ran it BACK into the end zone ("into the wall of color, from the green"), and were tackled. Extra point safeties are worth one point. Honestly, this rule was so obscure, yet on the books, for so long that I can't not love it. It's like the trope "The Programmers...", i.e. Game Designers from freakin' 1907, "...Thought Of Everything". And if not 1907, then whenever it came into existence: strange rules are often cool simply by fact of their existence.
@One_Point_Safety
Жыл бұрын
I come back to this video sometimes, I've been watching it since it came out. It's hard to understand how much things have changed and how much they've, paradoxically, stayed the same. I'll keep chasing this elusive high that is the one point safety. I'm like a dog chasing a car, I wouldn't know what to do with it if I caught it.
@mikesty
10 жыл бұрын
The odds of this happening in the NFL are nearly zero.
@mikesty
10 жыл бұрын
After further review of the rulebook - It could plausibly happen but not if the ball is kicked. If a player is running with the ball and fumbles it forwards into the endzone before he gets there, and that fumble isn't clearly going out of bounds by itself, if a defensive player dives at it and smacks it out of bounds, it's a safety on the defense (because this is the only way you can have a safety on the defense, anyway). The rules also state that on a try, the defense can't score a safety - so if anyone says that if the offense goes crazy on a try and runs the ball backwards 98 yards, that's not a safety by rule, and they're wrong (but I don't think this is coded into Madden because it's so insane)
@Statalyzer
10 жыл бұрын
In the NFL the play is dead if the defense gets the ball.
@mikesty
10 жыл бұрын
Statalyzer Yep! Yet it's still possible for a safety to be scored on this play by "impetus" imposed on the ball. The ball is dead if the defense *recovers* the ball. If they try to dive on the ball but fail to actually cover it up, and knock the ball out of the back of the endzone, it's a one-point safety. I read the rulebook for like two hours hahaha.
@l4nd3r
9 жыл бұрын
polyma You can't knock the ball, it's a foul.
@mikesty
9 жыл бұрын
l4nd3r which is why it results in a safety in this circumstance
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