That moment when you’re starting to get into Jazz and want to buy a ride cymbal but every last one of them sounds so amazing that it’s impossible to choose
@nathanielbrice8725
Жыл бұрын
Not impossible, just buy them all 👍🏽🤣
@bryanherward4679
Жыл бұрын
not impossible...the 22" Zildjian K con medium thin low is in every guitar center I know. It's great...If I went Zildjian...it's the one I'd get.
@cmt8485
Жыл бұрын
Ima be honest, very few American cymbal companies stack up to Istanbul, Bosphorus and other Turkish cymbal companies when it comes to jazz pies.
@bryanherward4679
Жыл бұрын
@@cmt8485 funny thing is most of the geeats had 2 choices As or Ks... the rest was up to them to get the sound they heard in their head
@cmt8485
Жыл бұрын
@@bryanherward4679 no you are right… if it’s discontinued or vintage, then it’s Zildjians best work by far. I do agree about that. I’ve got a pair of 60’s paper thin 14” a’s and they’re my favourite hats ever!! - however the two main cymbalsmiths in Turkey at the time responsible for the legendary K’s eventually left Zildjian and started Istanbul which are hands down my favourite right now. I’ve got an agop signature ride and oooh baby you can definitely trace the lineage back to those sweet sweet original K’s.
@alexseinielsen2840
2 жыл бұрын
The Meinl Byzance Big Apple Dark Traditional 22" was wonderful! It was hard to pick my favorite because they are all so nice. Thanks for making this!
@Poeme340
10 ай бұрын
Big Apple is a beauty-agreed.👍
@DrumControlNRW
2 жыл бұрын
The Paiste Masters Dark Crash Ride 22” sounded best! Thanks for this great comparison!
@amirbendayan376
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to include which sticks were used in the demo as it makes a big impact on the sound, oh and that intro was excellent 😆
@mjm5081
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree! I don't think I've ever seen a demo where the type of sticks are mentioned. And it can make a huge difference.
@LogicShouldRule
Жыл бұрын
It's very important yet, nobody includes it. SHAME!
@boomerguy9935
Жыл бұрын
I agree. It would also have been nice to have the same diameter across the board.
@Black_Water.inc200
Жыл бұрын
The best stick tip in my opinion is a barrel tip
@boomerguy9935
Жыл бұрын
@@Black_Water.inc200 Different tips (within nylon or wood groups) can sound very differently from each other when used on different cymbals. I carry a small cymbal stick bag for the specific cymbals I use on each gig. These cymbals will depend on the size and type of music played for each venue (large vs small, acoustic jazz or light pop or larger swing or classic rock). My drum set stays the same but the "ammo" used changes as needed. I do not have one specific size or shape of stick, other than length. The conditions control these choices.
@paulysci925
2 жыл бұрын
There needs to be a part 2 because there's no agop 30th or kerope which are 2 of the kings of modern jazz rides
@ceilingphan8575
6 ай бұрын
Are you talking about zildjian K or kerope? They stopped making kerope cymbals i believe…
@roomdog40
2 жыл бұрын
Big shock. The Mel Lewis sounded the best. I was really surprised how good the first Paiste sounded.
@JSears121
2 жыл бұрын
That Mel Lewis is 🔥
@mattshay9393
2 жыл бұрын
Y'all's editor deserves a raise
@kur4ma430
5 ай бұрын
why?
@pfunnk14
2 жыл бұрын
Some great cymbals here. I usually don't like Sabian cymbals as much for rides but that 22 hhx was fantastic and had a great crash/ wash and great stick definition. But that istanbul Mel was so freaking good. One of the best rides period. In fact the istanbuls really outshined the other brands in this comparison. I'd be happy with any of them.
@tygale7173
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@calebdeibert4952
Жыл бұрын
Istanbul makes the best cymbals. I don't even consider buying other brands anymore
@bryanherward4679
Жыл бұрын
yeah...if it's a jazz ride you're after...hard to beat Istanbul Agop.
@GilScottish
Жыл бұрын
@@bryanherward4679 Very true. I own the 21" traditional dark ride, and it is fabulous. most bersatile ride I have ever owned.
@lanceschultz7132
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Stick definition was great with little "overtone". My ear liked it alot.
@igortomaz4225
7 ай бұрын
The first Paiste and the Meinl big Apple were amazing!
@bobmedora4647
2 жыл бұрын
All of these cymbals sound great. My favorite in this test was the Mel Lewis 22”.
@jasonb2180
2 жыл бұрын
I am not a jazz player at all - just never been my forte - but I liked the Mel Lewis the best as well. So, not the best-informed opinion, but it sure sounded great to these non-jazz ears!
@bobmedora4647
2 жыл бұрын
Jason, at least you watched and enjoyed the cymbals and that’s what counts. You were able to appreciate those instruments. That is very cool.
@davidperez5089
2 жыл бұрын
I think twas the testers too!
@stephprime
2 жыл бұрын
Paiste Signature Traditionals Light Ride, Zildjian K Constantinople Thin Overhammered Ride, Paiste Masters Dark Crash Ride
@commonman317
2 жыл бұрын
Very surprised. The Istanbul Agop Special Edition Jazz Ride 21” was the best, and most classic sounding to me. Also, the Paiste Signature Traditionals Light Ride 20” was great. Two cymbal companies that I've never really played before either. A very enjoyable and well done video again by DCP.
@Poeme340
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@seanmcconnell5303
Жыл бұрын
All the cymbals sound great. I was given a Dream bliss 22 inch ride by a friend to try out. I had never heard of Dream cymbals at the time my friend gave me the cymbal. I was very impressed and use it as my main ride cymbal.
@sebastianfm7337
Жыл бұрын
Very helpful. I liked the Paiste Signature most and bought it in the end, after careful testing at my local dealer (who is a big fan of your channel, too).
@jacko2049
2 жыл бұрын
Paiste dark crash ride was my fave …. Had a lushness and nice bell 👍
@JeromeDayUniverse
2 жыл бұрын
Always love your playing, Tom! The Mel Lewis Ride and Goodnight! Lol I basically loved all of the Istanbuls…They’re what I like to hear in a jazz ride. The Istanbul Signature 24 with the darker wash and ping brightness made it sound like it was raining. I Love it! Perfect balance for my taste I also liked the Meinl Big Apple Dark Traditional 22
@musicalala
2 жыл бұрын
Have the 21" Istanbul Agop Jazz Special Edition and love it. Also love Istanbul Signatures. All about that brand. Meinl one is really nice but I played one in a really dull finish much like Big Apple one here(maybe it was the same) but it looked more vintage or rough/ seasoned. It's great but almost the same price as Istanbul in which case I'd still pick Agops. Agops have a way of being two cymbals in one. Great ride and crash characteristics!
@GilScottish
Жыл бұрын
Good choice! I own the 21" traditional Dark ride. I want a 24" Joey Waroner someday, but I need to start saving. 714$ is nothing to sneeze at!
@Dogdrum
2 жыл бұрын
The Paiste and Instanbul rides win the shoot out for me. I'm surprised I wasn't as enamored by the Zildjian ones.
@Hemstrought
2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Paiste Traditionals 20” light ride.
@DrummerGrrrl
2 жыл бұрын
The Istanbul Signature 24"...oh, my goodness! So beautiful in sound and looks. Just an incredible cymbal.
@graytss
Жыл бұрын
I have one and I can attest, it’s so worth it.
@JD-xo2wz
2 жыл бұрын
Y'all win the internet for today with that intro!
@ethanm1261
2 жыл бұрын
As a metalhead -among a lover of all other genres of music, this intro is the quintessential embodiment of the young internet’s acronym of ROFL.
@trafalgerdavis7839
2 жыл бұрын
I love the death metal intro, guys. Funny stuff.
@Mobby74
7 ай бұрын
Well, for me it's the two Istanbuls: Special Edition 21 and Mel Lewis 22. Would love to hear them in a set
@SeanZetterlund
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the JAZZCORE intro 😋 also, all of these rides are winners, not a bad one in the bunch!
@CarlosAnglada
2 жыл бұрын
best intro ever
@samaphantNovaJewelX
2 жыл бұрын
What was that song
@tomhalbouty3653
10 ай бұрын
Wow, most of these cymbals sound really good and would blend well in an ensemble jazz setting. For me, the Zildjian Constantinople's have a very musical balance. Some of my friends love cymbals with very complex overtones. I prefer a good, lower pitched ping with a fat lower volume wash without a " hum" or "trash" in the overtones. Thanks for the comparison and again, all of these cymbals are wonderful.
@boomerguy9935
3 күн бұрын
Yes!
@andyham6094
2 жыл бұрын
the byzance jazz line is absolutely outstanding. Also the sand ride, extra dry rides, and the foundry proof rides are great for jazz too.
@johndiraimo1444
2 жыл бұрын
I have the 22" Zildjian K Constantinople Overhammered Ride.... and I love it. I had the chance to play a 22" Istanbul Agop Mel Lewis Ride and it felt and sounded so good. That's my #2. The 22" Meinl Byzance Big Apple Dark Tradition Light Ride sounds great. That's my #3. It would also depend on the type of music being played of course.
@Oni_SmokeCG
Жыл бұрын
Probably watched this video like 20 times this past week, I have some favourite, but everytime I look into them on other videos they sound different on each one, it's very interesting how every cymbal is so different
@EveshkaGhost
4 ай бұрын
I love the paiste traditionals, used it on the last couple of albums!
@Theratron
2 жыл бұрын
This video was particularly enjoyable. Great playing on a great drumkit with a fantastic snaredrum and wonderful cymbals. Very nice 🤗 My favorites were the first one (the Paiste) and the Mel Lewis Istanbul. Can you do a video on the Gretsch signature snares in the future? This Keith Carlock one and the Gergo Borlai snare (that one seems particularly cool)? I think they sound wonderful.
@Myriam-nk2fw
2 жыл бұрын
These two were my favorites too, I think I'll buy the Paiste one
@carolinew6842
2 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to hear you make the gear sing....
@ynotw57
2 жыл бұрын
Mel Lewis all day. It sounded like the overtones are sitting well with the body of the cymbal. It just sounds happy. The HHX was too pingy and there was a high pitch whine when crashed. I can’t not hear it in just about every Sabian. The Meinl Jazz Monophonic sounded like it tried too hard. Zildjians are ok. Great comparison video, as always!
@foreverunsaved6661
Жыл бұрын
The band at the intro is definitely the best sounding 'Jazz' band I have ever heard.
@dancalabrese3523
2 жыл бұрын
All of these cymbals sounded great, but if I could only pick one thing from this video that I liked the best it would be that Gretsch snare drum. Wow! I haven't played one in years, but they really are making some excellent sounding snare drums these days. And Tom's playing is superb. Great video as always guys.
@stromghouls
2 жыл бұрын
this snare drum deserve to have it's own show.
@TrackDrums
2 жыл бұрын
Both the Istanbul Agop Mel Lewis and Signature rides sounded fantastic. 👍
@bonzomio
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Hans...the Paiste Signature Traditional Light 20" and also the Istanbul Mel Lewis 22" sounded best to my ear in this particular video. Nice drums and cymbals! Good playing and demo! Thx! For rides in my arsenal: 20 & 22 K Con MTL and 19 Beautiful Baby.
@cartoune
Жыл бұрын
The intro was the best 24 seconds on KZitem thus far
@EricT43
2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, and great drumming! I have to say that the Istanbuls really stand out to me. They all sounded fantastic. The K Con Overhammered ride and the Paiste Sig Traditional also sounded really good.
@drumcenternh
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@graytss
Жыл бұрын
Own a 24” Agop Sig and 22” Agop SE Jazz Ride (with 3 rivets I installed) Istanbuls are awesome! Gotta get me that Paiste 20” Trad. Light though.. such a musical instrument.
@dugeniadugeniadugeniadugen5266
2 жыл бұрын
That was one epic intro.
@dmark2639
5 ай бұрын
Both Paistes and the Zildjian K Cons sounded best to me. But all were inspiring. Thanks for the comparo!
@NainUsar
Жыл бұрын
Tom's face after demo'ing the Mel Lewis 22, just says it all... 😄
@klauth_Yksyn
2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Tom back in the mix of things! Great video(as always)
@DidYouReadEULA
2 жыл бұрын
All excellent, but the Sabian HHX Complex Thin is the only one I could see dropping that kind of money for. And not a cymbal snob anymore as I use Paiste Sigs, Zildjian A and even a 22" Sabian B8 Pro ping type ride cymbal (got it used, can't make out exact series, but it is killer). Looks like an HHX is in the B8 Pro's future!!
@e.henrythripshaw4554
Жыл бұрын
The cymbal demo part of the video is nice, but the playing is the best part. Excellent!
@tzmkira002
12 күн бұрын
The K Con. 20 bounce in this video is quite literally one kf the best spunding rides ive ever heard
@jc3drums916
2 жыл бұрын
I liked the Istanbuls the best, and the Sabian the least by a pretty wide margin. I love how trashy the Meinl Jazz Monophonic is, but I find trashy rides often have some weird higher overtones, and the Monophonic is no exception. I'm partial to the Agop Signature for a drier, slightly trashy sound, and the Mel Lewis for a more airy, open sound. Somewhat surprised an Istanbul 30th or K Kerope weren't among the choices.
@GilScottish
Жыл бұрын
if we are being honest, istanbul really blew the competition out of the water on this one.
@munton5150
2 жыл бұрын
I missed you Tom! My fave demos are you.
@jsspears
2 жыл бұрын
Came for the K Con Thin 22” and “left” with that and the (2) Paiste Sig Trad and (3) Paiste Masters Dark crash/ride (that bell!). Send help..
@billsmith1957
2 жыл бұрын
Paste Sig Trad, Istanbul Mel and K Con bounce-- if I had to pick one it probably be the Paste Sig Trad after an hour or so of mulling over the Istanbul Mel
@seantierson2633
2 жыл бұрын
Hard to beat that 20" K Con Bounce Ride for me. Killer sound
@davidsherley2652
2 жыл бұрын
Funny, I don’t consider myself a Sabian kind of guy, but the brightness and muted wash of the Sabian really catches my ear.
@davidedwards7448
2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation!! The best ride cymbal comparison that I've ever heard!!
@drumcenternh
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@brunoperez7131
2 жыл бұрын
Came here for the comparison. Listened hard. Left with a Paiste 20" Traditionals Light Ride. It arrived a few hours ago and I've been putting it through the paces. It is absolutely EXACTLY what I was looking for.. Some believe that Paiste's are too pure and don't have enough individuality. That's why I keep an arsenal of Z's, S's and M's as well. But as a result, my drummers still always comment on the beautiful P's in the arsenal especially for the lack of overtones. DCNH you are doing us a great service.
@mjm5081
Жыл бұрын
All fine cymbals! But I'm a Zildjian guy. With a few exceptions, they seem to have mastered the balance between stick definition, a usable bell, a pleasant wash, and crashability.
@DrummerGrrrl
2 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with a lot of other comments. Those Istanbul rides are just heaven. All the Zildjians were excellent, of course.
@EricWilliamsDrums
2 жыл бұрын
Majority of them actually make for fantastic crashes
@sanchtodd4203
2 жыл бұрын
Really liked the K. Con bounce and the big apple dark. Thanks for the comparisons.
@drumcenternh
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@robertomorales6488
Жыл бұрын
1. Paiste signature 2.K over hammered 3.Istambul Mel Lewis All great sounding cymbals
@TylerOath
8 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering… the intro song is “lie to my face” by Carnifex lol
@sutherlandsounds5714
Жыл бұрын
Thank god for the end segment, loading all of those into my drum sampler for ambient/live use cheers :)
@n8w8rem22
Жыл бұрын
Verry nice !! . I have a paiste 18" crash/ride 302plus , and an aa meinl laser bronze ride 20" . and I am extremely satisfied with it.
@jazzants
2 жыл бұрын
I wish Zildjian would lower the bell profile on the Cons just slightly and hammer the bells. The OH is just a little thin for my taste and the Kerope line just feel like they are missing a little complexity.
@clementnicolaas2697
2 жыл бұрын
Paiste Master Dark crash ride 22 "and Istanbul Agop Signature 24" would be my choices
@krthkh
2 жыл бұрын
Zildjian k series is something else. Wonderful video.
@Sleepnebula
5 ай бұрын
The Istanbul special edition 21 did it for me.
@simondicksondrums2532
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the effort in putting this together, an incredible video! Theres a reason I combine K Con and Paiste masters best of the best 💪
@walterharley6049
2 жыл бұрын
All the Cymbals has its place in Jazz and other styles of music.🎶
@davidsuprenant893
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see Istanbul traditional jazz series 20,or 22 featured.ive become a big fan of them recently. For me they do all 3!!! Great bell,ride,and crash.with this series. For someone who doesn't have a lot of money to spend,one of these cover a lot of bases,and sound absolutely beautiful.
@Russ.Murphy
2 жыл бұрын
All these cymbals work well for Jazz Rides. I can find specific compositions that each would excel at. So I'd probably look at which is most versatile. The 21"Istanbul Jazz Special Edition and the 22" Meinl Byzance Jazz Monophonic are a bit too dry and are probably the least flexible. The 22" Istanbul Mel Lewis Ride was low-pitched, with great definition, the crash projected well, smooth sound quality, the wash was present, but not overpowering, there was some sustain, but not continuous. In essence, it was extremely well balanced for a wide variety Jazz, Fusion, and even some pop. It would work well in sessions and even some Rock. I use two different cymbals for jazz rides; an 18" Zildjian rivet Cymbal, (minus the rivets) (ca.1954-1957), and a 22" Zildjian (ca. 1957-1959). Between them, I can pretty much cover anything in the realm of Jazz.
@federicopalomba6808
Жыл бұрын
Well , the Agop Signature sounds amazing ! I d even make it a bit lighter then that to have it even more crashble.. Turkey is at the top for cymbals.. we can all learn from them..
@heberluviano1584
2 жыл бұрын
All sound great but Istanbul's sound amazing...
@johncollins5552
2 жыл бұрын
Hadn't considered meinl for a great jazz ride cymbal until now, thanks Tom and the team, really enjoyed the full video. Despite the lack of UFIP rides that I love, of course I understand they may not be in stock!
@elcrackengaitos_bs4804
6 ай бұрын
I think there isn't any bad sounding istanbul cymbal, they all sound amazing
@andrewl9472
2 жыл бұрын
The Mel and the overhammered were may favorites, most impressed with Istanbul overall. That first Meinl was not great though
@nosnackz
4 ай бұрын
My choice would probably be the Istanbul special jazz ride
@davidcurtis4478
2 жыл бұрын
Jazzy! Just beautiful, all of em spectacular! Groove on chaps. Bonjour from Sweet home Alabama, what a beautiful day! 👍🥁👍DC
@omarcortes5754
2 жыл бұрын
Love them all.
@wesleydavidson7525
2 жыл бұрын
Tom that stank face and point at the Mel Lewis was all I needed!
@Astral_Wave
2 ай бұрын
Love the intro
@jgerman5544
2 жыл бұрын
Sure wish I could have that exact Istanbul SE 21". I'd buy that right now.
@Jaake-my2rq
2 жыл бұрын
K Con Thin Overhammer for the "jazz with a little bit of "A"-sound", and the Byzance Big Apple for the "old earthy plate"-sound with just enough modern in the undertones and bell to make it work beyond it's intended use.
@rogerpr364
2 ай бұрын
Sabian and Zildjian are my fave
@apples874
2 жыл бұрын
11:58 - Istanbul Agop Signature Ride 24” sounds very good imo
@alkingborn
2 жыл бұрын
On top Istanbul Mel Lewis, simply perfect. Similar opinion, but a bit less, for the K overhammered. PA, once again, are those I'd never buy, don't like at all with that trashy washy sound that jazzwise don't fit. All others are good but not that good. Great job again guys
@LogicShouldRule
Жыл бұрын
I need a 20" ride that is good for jazz with a real nice crash too. Prefer Zildjian, Meinl, Istanbul but open minded. Leaning towards Constantinople BUT, there are six different models and I don't have the ability to hear them live. What do y'all RECOMMEND ???
@Ngattas0218
Жыл бұрын
20 K' Constantinople Bounce, is real nice. 👍
@j.vincentdrums4812
2 жыл бұрын
Most are too light and too washy - dark crash ride. Really like the sig traditional light
@derekbarg7542
8 ай бұрын
Great Video. Thank you!!
@drumcenternh
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@crymeslv.1893
Жыл бұрын
Istanbul AGOP 21 inch jazz ride is my favorite
@Zindokar
Жыл бұрын
First one is what I was looking for
@mdrumt
2 жыл бұрын
For me, which is best crash 🤘
@bherward
2 жыл бұрын
Missing the 22" Zildjian K Con Low Medium thin...if I had to play Zildjian...it would be the one
@chizzadbc
2 жыл бұрын
That intro 😂😂😂👌
@gregtenney7279
Жыл бұрын
I really like that one video where Shane was performing a demo on I forget,, But he actually played OK.
@alexseinielsen2840
2 жыл бұрын
All of them sound great!
@gnosticnomad8389
2 жыл бұрын
I dig the over hammered best
@regentsaquariums5692
11 ай бұрын
That's what I love about Zildjian overhammered thin 22 ride too. They're one of the top 3 K Con ever made in production. It's really good & up There!
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