The mental image of Seven having her legs blown off and begging for death is intensely traumatic… I’m glad that got scrapped
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
It would be action schlock, unfortunately it's the kinda action stuff we actually get nowadays.
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports child mutilation. Please stop watching
@HellOnWheel
Жыл бұрын
Yeah sounds like something from the Walking Dead
@grijnskat1879
Жыл бұрын
@@HellOnWheel Sounds like something from "not-Star Trek: Picard"
@bawintermage8351
Жыл бұрын
C'MON, all of you get to the choppa', it's straight Terminator. I think your hesitation is a psycho-social reaction, the often weaponized "White tears" reaction: where the sight of an attractive white female( or buxom and blonde, sorry brunettes) in tears or pain trips the switch against whatever caused it, be it a circumstance or person. I actually love the idea, not as a midseason anything, but a finale for seven, speaking to the totally pessimistic argument that you can never escape your past moreover violently abused people often become abusers themselves. The aversion may have something to do with Ryan dating the producer....just saying, and ending the T&A money train was out of the question.
@twocvbloke
Жыл бұрын
The idea of "a" Voyager appearing back home only to cause trouble because they were actually aliens of somesort actually sounds like a good idea, given that Earth (thourgh DS9 & the Dominion war) had already had issues with imposter beings, this imposter Voyager & crew being welcomed home with open arms and champagne flowing folloing their triumphant return from being MIA would be a hugely entertaining episode, and a right kick in the teeth for Starfleet in general... :P
@joeygratton1426
Жыл бұрын
Finally, a video dedicated to my favourite Star Trek series. And while we're here, why do I like Voyager best, you ask? Three reasons. One: It has the most interesting story line that runs through the entire series. Two: It's the first one with a female captain. Three: Naomi Wildman adds a sweetness to it. She's a real Missy. Translation: A little girl who's mature and smart for her age, and yet still super cute at heart.
@andyx6766
Жыл бұрын
I was surprised there was no mention of the "Year of Hell" events originally envisioned as a many-episode (if not season-long) story-arc.
@OhNoTheFace
Жыл бұрын
Funny enough, the original Tuvix idea with him volunteering would have had a lot less "debate" about it
@seanbraley2772
Жыл бұрын
I’m not a overall fan of the ep the character was designed vary well but I will say I like the fact that janway was forced to make a decision it called back to the next gen ep where Troy was takeing the rank promotion test and had to order hologram gordi to go through with a suicide mission, Tuvix chose to wear a starfleet uniform one life versus 2 is what it came down to
@DMSProduktions
Жыл бұрын
@@seanbraley2772 How did he vary? Who is Gordi?
@pjpless2
Жыл бұрын
@@DMSProduktions😂
@cybisz2883
Жыл бұрын
@@seanbraley2772 The thing is though, Tuvok and Neelix were already dead. The "needs of the dead" can never outweigh the needs of the living, if that makes any sense. Troy ordering Geordi to sacrifice himself to save the ship is a completely different matter, even if it wasn't just a holodeck simulation. Even if Tuvok and Neelik were still alive somehow buy dying, well... imagine if today's army had two critically injured personnel and chose to sacrifice a healthy soldier to harvest his organs to save the injured two. That would be considered fucking appalling and evil. The episode would have been a lot less controversial if Tuvix had a terminal disease - e.g., some genetic incompatibility between Vulkan and Talaxian DNA for example - that would have killed him within a month or so, then have Tuvix nobly sacrifice himself (*without* pressure from Janeway!) since he has so little life left anyway. That would have made it a far better episode. As it stands, Janeway is a monster.
@DMSProduktions
Жыл бұрын
@@pjpless2 Welp, poor English WILL illicit that kind of reaction from me! ;o)
@Linerunner99
Жыл бұрын
LMAO I almost spat out my iced coffee when the coneheads came on screen. Well done. lol
@GabePuratekuta
Жыл бұрын
Same when I saw them in a car insurance ad a few years ago.
@matthewhallberg8256
Жыл бұрын
Tuvix as originally written definitely wouldn't still have people talking about it 30 years later. And Mortal Coil made a good choice in using Neelix. Gave the character some depth, and the episode was really good.
@majuuorthrus3340
Жыл бұрын
Well, people might still be talking about it, but in an "oof, that was handled completely wrong" kinda way.
@ssia6938
Жыл бұрын
Its always a treat to see how these stories evolve.
@gengatube9471
Жыл бұрын
The alternate version of In The Flesh sounds like it’d make an incredible movie. I like the episode we got but I would’ve loved to see the original idea make it somewhere
@Vim-Wolf
Жыл бұрын
Currently working my way back through Voyager for the first time since it came out, so your timing on this vid was spot on. Thanks.
@Voltaic_Fire
Жыл бұрын
I wish we'd gotten more of what happened after Voyager made it home, it seemed so anticlimactic.
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
Yup, I edited this video and I find it annoying as the only footage you have is the ship approaching Earth and then the credits come up, or alternate timeline when they are celebrating the anniversary of the ship's return. That's it!
@lawrencewalston2272
Жыл бұрын
An epilogue would've been nice.
@mho...
Жыл бұрын
yeah, one last extra episode called "Home" would have been nice! but i also get that the series was called *Voyager* not "Parked in Orbit" (even tho, that could be a interesting take on StarTrek too!, daily life on a Fed Spacestation!)
@Voltaic_Fire
Жыл бұрын
@@mho... I'd totally watch an episode like that if it got us the closure we deserve, they could call that send off episode "Bon Voyager". 😂
@DavidSmith-fs5qj
Жыл бұрын
It was, for me the poorest out of TNG and DS9, the crew would have returned to a quadrant devastated by the Dominian war, many of their families and friends would have perished in that conflict, that’s the problem with continuity, you can’t have just a little bit of it.
@DocWolph
Жыл бұрын
A planet alone in the darkness, that was some kind of tomb, would be a great episode or two. Frankly, this sounds like the plot to a movie. But it would just need more time to cook, rather than trying to chunk it out as just another episode.
@pookhahare
Жыл бұрын
Now this is the kind of research i love. Reminds me of the great fanzine articles.
@lshawn7925
Жыл бұрын
I am probably not the only one, but I heard the voice of that Romulan senator, and saw his face, as I read the thumbnail.
@FirstDan2000
Жыл бұрын
You're not, sir. I did too. I
@enikata7349
Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to see these put together as short stories in an anthology of what ifs
@arcadiaberger9204
Жыл бұрын
That's a really good idea. Also, stories which were sequelae to those episodes-which-weren't.
@blackdog6969
Жыл бұрын
Trek "What-If" episodes would be pretty damn cool. It gives them a way to not piss off the canon buffs while exploring ideas that were scrapped or even different takes as well as new stories. Even the TNG episode with the Borg-verse Enterprise would make for an interesting short
@arcadiaberger9204
Жыл бұрын
@@blackdog6969 Trek "What-Ifs" would be a good format for a round of "Short Treks".
@GeekFilter
Жыл бұрын
An interesting idea that I read in "Omni" magazine was that the Doctor was going to have the memory engrams of the actual doctor who died in the first episode. No one knows exactly where the idea came from, including people who worked on the show, but that could be a really interesting concept! It would definitely add a completely different spin to the doctor's arc. 🖖
@Caidoe_Esthov
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an often-overlooked aspect of Data's backstory: He was programmed with the journals and even brain scans of the colonists from where Dr. Soong built Data.
@arcadiaberger9204
Жыл бұрын
I have often thought that the Doctor's evolution would have made more sense if the *_Voyager's_* computer cores had been damaged when the ship was abducted into the Delta Quadrant and Captain Janeway had stolen an alien computer during their escape. The alien computer could have had immensely greater capacity but also been difficult to adapt to Federation computers, which would have provided an excuse for the Doctor's increasing complexity (yes, his remaining online constantly was a partial retcon for that, but an alien computer would have been a better explanation, IMHO).
@bectionaryadams8046
Жыл бұрын
Literally a list of some of my all time fave episodes!
@Sgt_Glory
Жыл бұрын
I read that thumbnail in Senator Vreenak's angry hiss 😂
@thecunninlynguist
Жыл бұрын
I'd want scientific method redone (that was the ep with the invisible aliens doing experiments and janeway getting crazier to the point of nearly killing the crew by going into a phenomenon to scare the aliens)
@HighSierra1500
Жыл бұрын
Scientific Method is one of my favourite episodes. It was a Monster-Of-The-Week episode, but I felt that the Srivani could has returned in subsequent episodes. Voyager was the only group of lab rats to fight back and drive them off. The Srivani could have declared war on the Federation because Voyager destroyed one of their ships, but this would most likely have taken the series in a different direction.
@thecunninlynguist
Жыл бұрын
@@HighSierra1500 overall i liked it but thought they could've done more/other things with it
@VictorReynolds
Жыл бұрын
I love your “10” videos Seán! They give us a look at what our classic Trek episodes could have been!
@Voltaic_Fire
Жыл бұрын
I still think that the year of hell should have actually taken up a whole season, it could have been magnificent, a real highlight of the whole franchise.
@Elim1986
Жыл бұрын
A number of S2 episodes for Voyager were holdovers filmed during S1 such as Projections where the Doctor is torn between whether he’s a hologram or actually Zimmerman. It puts him through multiple equally plausible scenarios before revealing it’s a clash of his program and his memories. Picardo really displays a serious range whenever his character gets a character challenge. Another comes from discovering his memories were modified to prevent him recalling a hologram equivalent of a mind break. Seven forces them to reconsider how to help him cope with the experience rather than lock the memories again. Voyager from time to time really did deliver thought provoking episodes.
@manic5378
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't just those four episodes, four episodes filmed during the season 2 production were intended for season 3, including "Basics, Part II" which wasn't actually filmed back-to-back with the first part. The difference, of course, is that they were written with the intention of being held over, which wasn't the case with the first season episodes, as apparent by the season 1 stardates ("Twisted" being the lone exception as a stardate was not mentioned), while the season 2 hold overs have Roxann Dawson credited as "Roxann Biggs-Dawson."
@veggiet2009
Жыл бұрын
Imagine an episode of Discovery, where they are traveling through the mycelial network when suddenly someone hears a confused voice in the midst, and the pilot steers the ship towards the voice... It's Tuvix!
@mikebarta4887
Жыл бұрын
8:29 Brilliant, Martin
@thomaskalinowski8851
Жыл бұрын
A detail that doesn't get enough attention is the fact that Living Witness is *still* the chronologically last episode in the entire Star Trek franchise.
@troloinkto
6 ай бұрын
Even with Discovery time travel? And with Prodigy, it was shown that chakotay went into a new mission to the delta quadrant, I find it hard to believe that they never re established contact with the federation
@thomaskalinowski8851
6 ай бұрын
@@troloinkto Maybe. The entire episode is a holographic reproduction of events that themselves took place over 700 years after Voyager's journey to the Delta Quadrant. Most of the story is set before Discovery's return, but the epilogue may take place afterwards.
@TobyDeshane
Жыл бұрын
Man, that shot from Scorpion where Mulgrew is reacting to an impact to the cube -- it looks so bad. But I don't think it's her fault, it just looks like they didn't add nearly enough camera shake (and for not nearly as long). They all look silly without the shake! ;D
@Sarappreciates
Жыл бұрын
5:41 Irresponsible? I get mad about that because it's such a personal choice, and it can be shown in a beautiful light. Choosing death over illness and suffering isn't an "irresponsible" message if the decision is made in an informed and mentally sound way. I have a terminal illness, but I'm not sick yet. I don't know what's to come, but I certainly don't wanna be considered "irresponsible" if Io ever feel the need to make that choice.
@tetravega567
Жыл бұрын
choosing to die is a sensitive issue with some. We have assisted dying available in Canada, but some complain it's being shoved down their throat just bringing up the option.
@SC1ENCEP1E
Жыл бұрын
List suggestsion. Star Trek Actors Who Worked Behind The Camera
@-AV8R-
5 ай бұрын
The thumbnail with "FAAAAAKE!" pointing at a "Starship" is hysterical.
@JuanNgtse
Жыл бұрын
The writters were very insightful in regards cultural perspective. From native americans' point of view to viewing a mother kill its child. Very appropriate for its time.
@GeekFilter
Жыл бұрын
Especially surprising, giving that their Native American expert was a sham!
@BrontisShane
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant list!
@johnsieverssr8288
Жыл бұрын
Great show Sean
@ShakaarGaleed
Жыл бұрын
Re: Tuvix: Janeway did nothing wrong!
@dentoncrimescene
Жыл бұрын
The needs of the many.
@chrisburton5715
Жыл бұрын
I have no problem with her choice in Tuvix. I do take exception to what she did in Endgame. She unmade billions and billions of people/aliens.
@cyphi474
Жыл бұрын
It was murder.
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports the mutilation of children
@_WillCAD_
Жыл бұрын
Janeway killed one person to bring two people back from the dead. Imagine if you had gotten transplants rom two people that saved your life. Heart from one person, kidney from another. Then someone comes up with a way to bring those donors back from the dead - all they need to do is remove your heart and kidney. Which would, of course, kill you. Janeway gives you the shot, you die, and your donors come back to life. You okay with that?
@gordonwallin2368
Жыл бұрын
Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.
@roberthenryscott8176
Жыл бұрын
Love this!!!
@stream_gene
10 ай бұрын
Life Signs was the first time I felt they could really push the EMH character to levels they didn't expect. Originally they expected Neelix to be the break out star, but Picardo just nailed the ostensibly dull role with such deadpan charisma, you just couldn't ignore the opportunities as a writer to explore that character.
@winterburden
Жыл бұрын
Tuvix deserved to live.
@sokonek1
Жыл бұрын
Best decision Janeway ever made was to eliminate that abomination
@GabePuratekuta
Жыл бұрын
Tim and Ethan had a contract, though.
@winterburden
Жыл бұрын
@@GabePuratekuta all contracts signed under capitalism are signed under duress and threat of violence and are therefore invalid
@juminor
Жыл бұрын
Said no one ever
@UltimatePerfection
7 ай бұрын
7:08 I can't help, but think that the "slipstream network" and the idea of trespassing thing influenced later vodwar episodes.
@andeeharry
Жыл бұрын
6: Voyager crew are duplicates? Well why not...they died a ton of times and most of them are from the alternate universe anyway. The real voyager blew up trying to protect the second one from the hunters...and then the timelines change, alternate events and stuff. It would have been would been a great tie in. I would explain a lot of things, why some of the crew behaved in a weird way, why Truvok defied Vulcan logic many times, why the EMH would burst out singing randomly. other than exploring humanity, why Janeway behaved rather erratically, and why Choaktay deciided to go after Seska, knowing it would be dangerous. There is a lot of things going on that made me feel they had been replaced, since man times they broke the rules and laws to suit themselves and put the crew in harm's way, just because. Yes, the crew being chanellings would be a perfect fit to everything. Changelling Seven of Nine kept Voyager from the Bajoran wormhole on purpose, since the war was going on. .
@Shanghaimartin
Жыл бұрын
Best Trek, best ship. Change my mind. Actually, don't even bother to try, you can't 😉
@DavidSmith-fs5qj
Жыл бұрын
Best ship, best concept, worst Trek.
@aqdrobert
Жыл бұрын
In an alternate universe, Janeway exclaims, "There is Tea, Earl Grey, Hot in that nebula!"
@REPOMAN24722
10 ай бұрын
Living witness is one of my favorites
@Strahan740i
Жыл бұрын
I like to assume the text on the thumbnail was a reference to DS9, and if so, well played :)
@whuffer5103
Жыл бұрын
Who would have thought the episode "Living Witness" uniforms would be foresight into the future with Picard series uniforms
@benjamindorrance1361
Жыл бұрын
You guys are making lists like this but we still havent got top 10 episodes of voyager please give us that list
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports the mutilation of children
@stephanierachal6320
Жыл бұрын
Translation: This channel supports transgender children getting the care they need.
@benjamindorrance1361
Жыл бұрын
Ummmm.....ok...cool, good to know
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
@@stephanierachal6320 “the care they need” translation mutilation of healthy body parts and castration…
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
@@benjamindorrance1361 I’m glad you know now. Please stop supporting these anti-life freaks.
@Herowebcomics
Жыл бұрын
Wow! So many good and bad ideas were lost here!
@ronm6585
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. 🖖🏻
@plonkersbro
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it counts but originally in Dark Frontier when 7 reactivates on the Queen's ship finding drones in front of her she was meant to have been back in her Borg attire but Jeri refused
@frankharr9466
Жыл бұрын
Things really can change, can't they. Good in some cases.
@FirstDan2000
Жыл бұрын
I saw the thumbnail and instantly thought of the DS9 Romulan who was mis-sold a holo recording. ITS A FAAAAKE. Then I instinctively knew Martin was the editor. But I watched this a week ago and didn't see any of the usual jokes or neat editing illustrations. So I had to watch again without blinking. That must be how I missed seeing the Horgon on the first two viewings. I like the old photo altered to show an 8472. And the newspaper too. And a viewing on a big TV screen finally showed me an NX Enterprise model in front of the Dancing Cochrane. Nice juxtaposition when Sean's voiceover talks about non-violence but the video shows violence. And the crawling terminator is excellent. I just didn't notice it the first time around.
@bigbywolf586
Жыл бұрын
While I too really dislike how the episode “Tuvix” ended, I do have an appreciation for the fact that Tuvix had to die for the gravitas of the episode not to have been lost. I think the reason that the episode carried such weight, and was unafraid to show it in all is distasteful g(l)ory, hinged on the fact that Tuvix had to die. My preferred ending would still involve Tuvix dying, but would have ended with Tuvok and Neelix on the holodeck, sitting on a park bench quietly exchanging their thoughts, and ultimately survivor guilt with one another. As both would retain the memories, and emotional memory of Tuvix, they would of course be glad that they were alive but still felt shame for the manner in which that life was given back to them. Neelix being a creature of emotion, would naturally struggle with the weight of the decision made, and would turn to Tuvok for some logic to make those feelings easier to deal with - Tuvok would explain the common misconception that Vulcans do not have emotions, and would correct that by explaining that the Vulcan need for logic is because they feel emotion that much stronger than other life forms and that it almost destroyed the Vulcan people. He would go on to say that he shares Neelix’s feelings every bit as deeply as Neelix does, but explain the logic behind Janeway’s decision, and that for the good of everyone else onboard she had to make an impossible decision. The episode would close out with the camera panning out and away from behind the pair, and as the fade to black occurs, we see Tuvok place a reassuring hand on Neelix’s shoulder. This I feel would have rounded out the episode nicely, and have given a little more closeness to Tuvok and Neelix’s relationship - rewatching every episode, ad-infinitum, the subtle nuances of the actors performances started to stand out, and apart from Neelix’s deep, romantic love for Janeway, the other thing that caught my attention was just how much (even very early on) one notices just how much Neelix is craving a little closeness and validation from someone who he admired greatly, Tuvok.
@Buildonsound
Жыл бұрын
"Nr: 1 Tuvix" well that was quick lol
@arklestudios
Жыл бұрын
As a Sevantha shipper I am very much relieved they didn't go with the killing Ensign Wildmam idea.
@oddish4352
5 ай бұрын
Parallax was a mistake either way... by having B'Elanna become chief engineer so quickly, much of her potential character growth was completed in one episode. She spent the next seven years on a treadmill, trying to reconcile herself with her Klingon half over and over again. And the biggest thing Night got wrong was not quietly sticking a pip on Harry's collar. His seven years as an ensign was one of Voyager's stupidest elements.
@Opusss
Жыл бұрын
Tuvix haunts my nightmares.
@spencersholden
4 күн бұрын
7:48 what was this from?
@astreanightfang2622
5 ай бұрын
biggest unanswered question what if 2 transpporter clones get the tuvix treatment
@sasamichan
Жыл бұрын
By "Fan Favorite" you mean its equally as beloved as the last episode of Star Vs
@ThisIsMeAndNotYou
Жыл бұрын
1 & 1
@imkluu
Жыл бұрын
I never understood 'Night'. how is there a part of space that has no light? What is blocking the light form all the stars int eh Galaxy from being seen there? Even looking out from the very edge of the galaxy you would see the light of other galaxies. There may be large expanses in space that are void of stars, but this doesn't stop the light of the other stars from being seen.
@cybisz2883
Жыл бұрын
The episode did pay lip service to that actually - something about theta radiation absorbing all EM signatures so that nothing can be observed beyond a limited range. Granted, the explanation made no sense, and it was a "blink and you'll miss it" sort of thing, but at least it was acknowledged.
@cyphi474
Жыл бұрын
Life Signs is example of poor writting, that sadly plagued entire Voyager run. No wonder people praise Tuvix, for being one of boldest and best episodes of VOY. Just, compare those two. One serving you answer on silver plate, other letting you decide.
@cybisz2883
Жыл бұрын
Weird how wildly different peoples' impressions can be. I thought Life Signs was one of the better episodes, whereas Tuvix was *the* worst, in all of Star Trek. There were a lot of bad episodes (Spok's Brain, Sub Rosa, Threshold) but Tuvix was the only episode in the franchise where the captain - who's supposed to be a role model - became some weird Mr. Hyde monster. It's hard to have any respect for her after that.
@marcatteberry1361
Жыл бұрын
Tuvix freaked me out. Was it Murder to fix the accident? Was a new person created? like when Trip grew a spare... Well, I dunno, it just freaked me out, plus the character was freaky..
@AdrianWoodUK
Жыл бұрын
2:09 - "The resolution comes from diplomacy rather than violence, which is far more in keeping with Janeway's character." Haha! That's what I love about TrekCulture, you're so funny! Captain Kathryn "Torpedoes, Full Spread" Janeway preferring to avoid violence, that's a good one! ...You were joking, right? ......Right? (Side note: if you haven't seen it, go watch the TazG2000 video, "The definitive Voyager torpedo inventory log". Apparently, Janeway loved firing torpedos so much, she was somehow able to shoot vastly more than they ever had, presumably through force of her own violent will.)
@_WillCAD_
Жыл бұрын
Torpedoes can be replicated - except for the matter and antimatter reactants - but what about all those shuttles they lost?
@AdrianWoodUK
Жыл бұрын
@@_WillCAD_ I mean, I think not being able to replicate the reactants was the main issue there. ;) And yeah, the number of shuttles they trashed, while explicitly not being able to replace them... And yet somehow able to build their own super-shuttle, out of spare parts (in a cave, with a box of scraps) was wild!
@GrandmasterDevo
Жыл бұрын
@@AdrianWoodUK Not to mention said super-shuttle got blown up and then appeared again two episodes later.
@SPECTRE_Madman
Жыл бұрын
Relativity is on in 19 minutes on pick Freeview Channel number 36
@ryanhau1073
9 ай бұрын
If they wanted to make Tuvix more darker, why not go Full Cronenberg with Body Horror
@MisterRorschach90
Жыл бұрын
The mere fact that transporter accidents happen and can be reversed means that they understand what’s happening and can replicate it. This also means that they have a recipe for creating some of the most over powered modified beings imaginable. Imagine making a fusion of species 8472 and an android like data. Completely resistant to all forms of technology, gravity, and the insane processing power and intelligence of the android. Or a changing and a douwd or an organian, a being made of pure energy that can turn into any state of matter and take any form imaginable, with the ability to absorb energy to grow in size to even the size of a solar system. Or even better fuse a q with some other species that has a specific weakness that can be exploited to take control of the q.
@leosheppard8517
Жыл бұрын
With all the crew members dying on voyager … make me think they could have ran out of crew.
@ClarinoI
2 ай бұрын
So Tuvix could have had a much better ending? One with a noble sacrifice rather than a Captain ordering an innocent man to his death while the entire crew stands by? That's a tragedy.
@GrandmasterDevo
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't there also an alternate version of Unimatrix Zero where Harry was assimilated (or at least captured)? I recall seeing some early draft photo of Harry on a surgical table with the Borg Queen standing over him. This was years ago, back when the episode had just come out, and I haven't seen that picture anywhere in the years since.
@allthingsnerd.4484
Жыл бұрын
Not sure, but I know Harry was supposed to die in Scorpion and be replaced in the cast by Jeri Ryan. Garrett Wang’s sexiest men alive People magazine cover at the time saved the character though and doomed Kes instead…
@martychisnall
Жыл бұрын
I’m still going to claim Janeway did nothing wrong in “killing” Tuvix. Tuvix was willing to let two people who had families die to save his own life.
@DanielSolis
Жыл бұрын
8:30 We are from France.
@pookhahare
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes raven as shown far superior
@scottmantooth8785
Жыл бұрын
*i'm still very annoyed (i'm being very polite here) by the tuvix ending as they could have taken his combined dna and then later cloned him either on the ship or once they got back to earth*
@dellytancyl524
Жыл бұрын
would cloning have been enough? wasn't there an added alien plant dna ingredient that caused the merging in the first place?
@arbjbornk
Жыл бұрын
A clone is a biological/physical copy. They would not have had Tuvix's memories or personality.
@scottmantooth8785
Жыл бұрын
@Jon-eh1yw *not forgetting that aspect at all...just saying the manner in which it was handled was a bit harsh and cruel*
@nickyshahin6224
Жыл бұрын
Worse episode
@bawintermage8351
Жыл бұрын
That is even more morally problematic than the way Janeway's decision played out. Consider the Enterprise episode with the cloned Cmndr. Tucker and the implications of cloning someone for parts.
@moritz_schoenermann
Жыл бұрын
Oblivion is for me the saddest episode of all Star Treks I saw. All they were and lived vanished without letting a trace... This is why the ideia of dying haunts me since ever . . .
@davidmcauliffe8692
Жыл бұрын
The plotline of Janeway's hometown being destroyed sounds like it was revisited for Enterprise and Tripp.
@grahamturner1290
Жыл бұрын
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@spacepope69
Жыл бұрын
Why would someone be so inhumane as to think that living in a diseased body is a 'proper' choice. If you are so affected by disease that you can't move or are in constant pain, I'm sure that most people would choose to live a short happy life unaffected by disease or pain. Who would think that people are less deserving of consideration, having a choice is a great consideration. Having someone die diseased and/or in pain seems the height of inhumanity, what an awful person.
@flightwriterNG
Жыл бұрын
3:11 Think you're missing a name here. (Bryan Fuller, right?)
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
That's him yep
@Stuff_And_Things
Жыл бұрын
I'm not here to watch the video. I'm here because in the thumbnail, there is an arrow pointing at a part of the ship with the word "fake". You do realize its all fake...Right? LOL I feel like the Galaxy Quest theme should start playing here. ;)
@charlessimmons223
Жыл бұрын
Janeway did nothing wrong.
@tepan
Жыл бұрын
A good video, but I found the mix of clips illustrating your narration and the clips from the episodes you're talking about confusing.
@Great_Sandwich
Жыл бұрын
This is where Star Trek ended for me. I loved this series. Nothing else captured the essence of it since.
@cybisz2883
Жыл бұрын
Yup, same. Enterprise has its moments, but never quite lived up to the originals. The whole 29th century temporal cold war was bonkers and the Xindi arc was a half-assed shallow attempt to introduce a Dominion-like nemesis.
@geoffjohnson521
11 ай бұрын
I HATED Living Witness. It made no sense in continuity and never rectified. Like we know that Voyager made it home we know that that never happened. I don't think they even said it was an alternate universe / reality.
@ChrundleTGreat
Жыл бұрын
The writers did too many episode messing with Tuvok’s logic or the Tuvok/Neelix dynamic. Tuvox was the diarrhea icing on a giant poop cake of bad ideas.
@RalphyNoPants
Жыл бұрын
It’s a shame almost all of them had the big red reset button in them.
@everettmcmunn
Жыл бұрын
when talking about mortal coil you showed scenes from author author...
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
They showed someone writing, because it was about the writers 🤦🤷♂️
@tomlichnofsky.7048
Жыл бұрын
🖖🖖😊🖖🖖🍁
@comancheviperrrr
Жыл бұрын
Jamie, isn’t that much of a diplomat. I’m not sure why you seem to point out in that one that she is. She’s probably one of the worst captains to ever sit in the seat. Not because she’s a woman because she makes some of the worst decisions. She committed murder several times throughout the show. And don’t get me started with the whole episode with Tuvix or however, you spell his name. She just flat out, murdered him. There’s no other way to look at that. They made it all you want. It is what it is. Just start the show. The destroying of the array made no sense. The caretaker had to use his special ability to activate the array. There’s no way anyone else could’ve used it but I’m sure voyager being what it was I would’ve done some sort of science mumbo-jumbo, and made it work. Lol.
@somejerkbag
Жыл бұрын
Should have just kept Tuvix. He wa smuch more interesting than either of the characters on their own
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports the mutilation of children.
@_WillCAD_
Жыл бұрын
Tuvix was a great character, and I wish they could have saved him. But I do love Tuvok and Neelix individually.
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
@@_WillCAD_ Tuvok was a moron… he got disarmed by a female that took his weapon and fired it in engineering. Star fleet security officer that got within arms reach of someone despite having a ranged weapon…. Literally what happens when the ideologies supported by this channel gain power in society. Neelix was nothing more than a literal pet to the crew or voyager.
@colinleat8309
Жыл бұрын
Single biggest morally bad decision Janeway made with regards to a crewmate... killin Tuvix...murderer... love how the crew did NOTHING to protest either.🖖😁🤘🇨🇦
@nitricoxidegod
Жыл бұрын
😂👍
@sureshmukhi2316
Жыл бұрын
I thought in Scorpion the original intent was for Harry to die instead of Kes leaving.
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
It was either one of the two due to go. But he got most handsome guy of the year or some such award so they kept him.
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports the mutilation of children.
@sureshmukhi2316
Жыл бұрын
@@ashedarke People Magazine's 50 sexiest men.
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
@@sureshmukhi2316 there we go. It was mentioned in the 10 Things You Didn't Know About Seven video, that's about all I could remember 😂
@stephanierachal6320
Жыл бұрын
That's not true. Garrett Wang said it wasn't on the Delta Flyers podcast.
@paultapner2769
Жыл бұрын
Sure I'm in the minority, but I think Year of Hell is grossly overrated. Probably because I'd heard so much in advance about how great it was, it just didn't measure up to my resulting expectations. Time travel had become overused by the franchise by this point, so it was just one more time travel story. And thus didn't grab me. Of course it hit the reset button, so there was no impact from it. So it felt inconsequential.
@DavidSmith-fs5qj
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, the reset button was so overused it became a running joke, same with the endless supply of photon torpedoes and shuttles, the Delta Flyer is destroyed so many times but they always manage to replace it.
@DavidSmith-fs5qj
Жыл бұрын
In the flesh was an abomination of an episode, it was bad enough when the writers emasculated the Borg, to do the same thing to species 8472 was unforgivable. In Scorpion, it is established that Species 8472s DNA is so dense that nothing can penetrate it, yet in in the flesh Tuvocs Vulcan neck pinch renders him unconscious. Again in Scorpion, one member of species 8472 wipes out 15 Borg cubes, but when one is captured in this end episode, he starts crying and commits suicide. The worst scene is when Janeway is talking to Boothby and asks if they have recreated her favourite coffee shop, it’s not Boothby, It’s a member of species 8472, and your asking about a f..king coffee shop.
@20catsRPG
Жыл бұрын
In Tuvix, Janeway committed murder. Plain and simple. Imagine you could bring back a mother who died while giving birth to her baby, if you kill the baby. No one would do it. Well, apart from Janeway obviously.
@michaelcook7107
Жыл бұрын
And the worst part is, she brought back Neelix.
@ViroVV
Жыл бұрын
Every Tuvix dies. Did Tuvix ever really live?
@Rykojames
Жыл бұрын
This channel supports the mutilation of children
@lancecampbell4323
Жыл бұрын
Good concept but the series was killed by poor scripts, Mulgrew’s wooden acting, too much Doctor and not enough use of Chakota who was the best actor and character. At least they got rid of Jenn Lein
@cybermaxpower
Жыл бұрын
not liking the background music in this :(
@ashedarke
Жыл бұрын
How come? The song itself or where it sits in the mix?
@dracopticon7788
10 ай бұрын
Why trash Voyager all the time! It's the greatest of all ST franchise!
@IMDARKFIRE007
Жыл бұрын
The whole Tuvix thing was just poor writing, nothing more. We all knew Tuvok and Neelix had to return, but instead of giving us a decent reason like an unstoppable degenerating cell structure with the only cure being separation, and the alternative being death....we got Janeway completely throwing her morality out the door and becoming a murderer with her whole crew save the doctor in tow. One of the worst decisions in ALL of Star Trek.
@drewium6386
Жыл бұрын
These concepts are better than the actual episodes! What a disappointing series especially after the masterpiece that was DS9.
@DavidSmith-fs5qj
Жыл бұрын
It was very disappointing and doesn’t hold up well after all these years. They had the best concept of all of the shows but threw it away. A ship alone thousands of light years from home with two crews at each other’s throats facing enemies on al sides and with no means of replenishing weapons or other supplies, but in no time they are one big happy crew with endless supplies of photon torpedoes and shuttles, in TNG episode Q Who, Q warned of terrors a o freeze the soul, Voyager gave us the Kazon.
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