I still take the wrong path to get out of Undercity and go down to the other elevator after 12 years :
@emetsalt2678
7 жыл бұрын
Jared Warburton :
@YungSkeeto
6 жыл бұрын
Looks like you won't have that problem anymore...
@Sasupoika2
5 жыл бұрын
All capitals outside of Ironforge, Stormwind and perhaps maybe Orgrimmar are pretty atrocious.
@josephhuggins5394
5 жыл бұрын
@@Sasupoika2 i think thunder bluff is pretty cool and its layout is pretty simple
@seetri_dusk
7 жыл бұрын
It warms my heart how you always give credit in the actual video in stead of hiding it in the description like others do sometimes. c:
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Credit where credit is due. It's also a chance to introduce people to another awesome channel =)
@captainhailstorm
7 жыл бұрын
*cough WarcraftBible cough*
@Jezza24681
7 жыл бұрын
did Warcraft Bible delete his channel!? holy crap
@hunter9188
7 жыл бұрын
This happened quite a while ago...
@Jezza24681
7 жыл бұрын
yeah I remember all the stuff happening but I didn't realize he actually deleted his whole channel
@murat8210
7 жыл бұрын
1:09 Rest well Hayven :(
@QuestionableObject
5 жыл бұрын
:(
@eyoshinthemaximum
5 жыл бұрын
Did I miss something? I haven’t been part of the WoW community for 5 years so I’m a little lost
@Basih
5 жыл бұрын
@@eyoshinthemaximum He was a really good KZitemr who just started to gain traction when he sadly passed away.
@eyoshinthemaximum
5 жыл бұрын
Time to look him up then
@ROCKSESBWNR
7 жыл бұрын
Love how honest and respectful you are man. you give credit, make to the point videos, never click bait, and know what you're talking about. Came for the list. Subbed for the sincerity.
@kou7191
7 жыл бұрын
Ele- Fire Enh - Air Resto- Water Tank spec - Earth Blizz, make it happen! The fact they're mail users is now redundant given how 3 of the 6 current tank specs use LEATHER
@Hriskataaa
7 жыл бұрын
yee, thats a good point
@andreas4182
7 жыл бұрын
Kouya Williams windwalker = chi.
@brandonboss6868
7 жыл бұрын
Kouya Williams I always hoped elemental would master all the elements. They can't attack with water or air : /
@kou7191
7 жыл бұрын
well technically Ele uses fire, air (storm), and earth. It just so happens that Lava Burst is by far their strongest damage dealer unless they spec into Icefury, which would be the only water (frost) spell they have other than Frost Shock.
@CrZ0004
7 жыл бұрын
its dumb.. specs shouldnt only be able to use one spell school.. frost mages shouldnt only be using frost spells, fire shouldnt only be using fire spells etc.. same here..
@bansheeownz
7 жыл бұрын
I think the game still suffers from indecisiveness and revisions that don't fully address the problem. It's really odd to me how they've been trying to remove corpse running from the game. Many new dungeons spawn you immediately if you release spirit. And yet Return to Karazhan has few respawn points, forcing you to a lot of walking after wipes. I have to wonder what goes on in their meetings sometimes. They seem so intent and committed to some things (like their original plan to have no flying in Warlord's. Yes, I know that decision was eventually overturned, but the game was definitely designed without flying in mind), and then there's other things they seem to have no clear idea of how they want to do it; constantly flip flopping on their game design.
@madness3840
7 жыл бұрын
And if you really liked it let him know in the comments and subscribe.
@Olkard
7 жыл бұрын
I like that you gave credit to the original list. Good on you.
@bloopblob
7 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Hayven, never forget.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
4th comment!! YES!! Be sure to check out that Hayven Games channel btw. Tons of footage of stuff from the alpha/abandoned map files. Been binge watching it myself...interesting stuff!
@Hunk_Streams
7 жыл бұрын
Oh snap im here
@NoobsUnited9000
7 жыл бұрын
Hayven is so fucking good. The worst things happen to the best people :(
@ethanwright5051
7 жыл бұрын
im sad now
@katsarelas1947
7 жыл бұрын
RIP :.(
@jermafan111
7 жыл бұрын
RIP Hayven
@jimerkens1425
7 жыл бұрын
On a whim decided to check out one of your videos a little while back. I've grown very fond of your videos, they're informative, calm, easy to follow and cover a lot of stuff. Keep it up! Also, I love the cut content series.
@theunwelcome
7 жыл бұрын
only found your channel recently, but really enjoying your vids
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it. Thank you for watching =)
@VenomRaven
6 жыл бұрын
I have so much respect for you. Giving full credit and full disclosure of where you got your information from is really endearing.
@r.pizzamonkey7379
7 жыл бұрын
Props for being honest. Most channels like this just steal content, you credit everything properly. +1 sub just for that
@LordFakeGodz
7 жыл бұрын
It actually make sense for shaman to have tank spec, we don't have mail tank atm, and it fit their Class Fantasy, Earth Elemental and stuff. Just hoping next expansion we'll get a mail tank. Right now Mail is only for 2 class. Plate for 3 class. Cloth for 3 class Leather for 4 class. so it make sense if they make next new class to be mail-wearer.
@Howluffu
7 жыл бұрын
FakeGodz they just need to give shaman a fourth tank spec as they did with the druid. In my opinion they have to wield 2h weapon like in a dk way because Ey!! they summon earth and stone powers just dont give a shit about a shields. Also the fact that they can wield 2h axes, maces and staves but in endgame they cant be viable at all makes it sad.
@lionelpil8707
7 жыл бұрын
I actually played tank shaman in some dungeons during the Burning Crusade extension. Well it was pretty hard but very funny and the thing is it worked pretty fine, but not enough resistances and defensive tools to actually tank raid bosses.
@simeik
7 жыл бұрын
Kinda miss the old 2H enhance shaman. The crits omg xD
@KrasszTV
7 жыл бұрын
That deadmines bug hasn't been fixed, I literally did it 2 weeks ago.
@letsseepaulallenscard.6604
6 жыл бұрын
You linked the same video twice in the description, great video btw :).
@madrox1989
7 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Paragon System!! We were promised a Paragon System when they first announced Burning Crusade (and Titan) way back. It eventually made its way into Diablo 3 and I would guess it sort of made its way into WoW with the Artifact Weapon system.
@Odis616
6 жыл бұрын
RIP Hayven we all miss you
@huyutypo2
7 жыл бұрын
I have found you recently and I am really enjoying your content! I was pleasantly surprised when a lot of what was on this list I have never heard of before!! Keep up the good work!
@shurchil69
7 жыл бұрын
I actually tanked some heroics in WotLK as Enhancement Shaman. Was fun and challenging.
4 жыл бұрын
That is why wrath fails. Ez mode
@bambae7669
5 жыл бұрын
way back in beta, holy was a dps spec that focused around holy damage while having some early talent points for healing. Ironically a lot of healing paladins specced retri due to it having the 31 point reward blessing of kings, while you only had to spend a few points in holy to get all the important healing talents, for spells that you would rarely use due to how blessings worked originally.
@music79075
5 жыл бұрын
Thats fascinating. I never knew that. I remember some Healing Paladins say they were a holy pally but claimed to have a few points in ret but i never knew it had once been like that. Any other interesting wowbeta facts?
@EnnTomi1
5 жыл бұрын
i love your video so much. love the intro, love your voice, love how the BGM is very faded and just enough. love how calm everything unfolds. i feel like i am a child listening bed story being told by my grandpa and it is magical.
@Shiirow
4 жыл бұрын
to call garrisons player housing, is an insult to the concept of player housing. it was merely a phased quest hub masquerading as housing.
@QuantaSolace
4 жыл бұрын
If Blizzard does update the EK and Kal, I hope they reconsider adding a second floor to some of these cities to make it feel like a large city.
@Cyberium
6 жыл бұрын
Melee Disc would be awesome.
@godlygamer911
7 жыл бұрын
I loved climbing the mountains in tiristfall and falling into the second level of the undercity and just sniping players as a hunter.
@Meltman1000
5 жыл бұрын
Been playing since vanilla and didn't know about the second floor in under city! Nice video
@michaelolaf9968
7 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd kept bucklers available for rogues/hunters. Might have increased build diversity, focusing on survivability rather than heug dps. Plus bucklers themselves are fairly neat as equipment for fighting when distinguished from full shields.
@BaconBot360games
7 жыл бұрын
"Another KZitem user by the name of HayvenGames-" Rest in spaghetti, never forgetti.
@ArgentumEmperio
7 жыл бұрын
I knew a fair few of these ones already but it was interesting to hear about Hellfire Peninsula originally being a high level vanilla zone as opposed to the Outland zone we got today so... Thanks! Something I had NEVER heard of ever and I have listened to a fair few of these 'Things that were scrapped in WoW' so thanks for that! ^^
@ericschmidt9188
5 жыл бұрын
what set is this shaman using @ 6.15 ? i found similar set from zul'aman and zul'gurub from cata, but not in full red like this but rather purple
@bambae7669
5 жыл бұрын
it's the original tbc ZA raid mail "set" that was removed from the game, when they revamped ZA into a dungeon in cataclysm
@grimmow187
7 жыл бұрын
is the intro from Dransik by any chance? just sounds familiar.
@oblivexx
7 жыл бұрын
for player housing, would it make sense if we get a 2nd cataclysm, Blizzard could make the landmasses as big as they are shown in the realistic 3d cinematics? If Mulgore now take 3-5 minutes to cross by foot, would you like to play WoW it if it took like 20 - 30 minutes to cross the zone?
@Navili502
5 жыл бұрын
the back of the box for the WoTLK expansion said that there would be flying siege weapons aka fighter planes that you could do dogfights with the opposing faction in.
@andromidius
3 жыл бұрын
You know, I never understand why they didn't make player housing instanced and inside cities. Make it so there's multiple portals to the instance hidden behind locked doors (each with their own key). And then you can go in, bring a party or raid, and chill in there away from everyone else. Maybe it might have been limited to standard layouts inside (it was Vanilla, after all - no phasing), but having a place with a cookfire and enough seating for 10 people would have been enough to satisfy the roleplayers out there. Or heck, make it Guild Halls. Larger, customisable, enterable for members only, etc. Would have been a good place to have private meetings, roleplay, planning or just a good place to AFK or use a target dummy in peace. Just maybe keep all the vendors outside so people are encouraged to actually engage with the outside world from time to time.
@jonascourturee
7 жыл бұрын
That's like the best intro on youtube ive seen in a while :P
@ryanexsus
7 жыл бұрын
I actually did tank low level dungeons on my Enhancement Shaman while leveling during Burning Crusade. You did way less damage with a shield but Frost Shock worked just like a taunt.
@Alphascrub_77
5 жыл бұрын
Some of these are really pretty cool. The tanking spec for shaman's, the melee spec for priest, the buckler thing. To bad they never made it in. I think the tank spec for shaman could maybe make it in if they really put some effort in. Then again they could just make shamans not busted half broken garbage like they are in retail and I would be happy with that. Honestly think a lot of people would be happy if they stopped re inventing the bloody wheel every xpac for every spec especially since they flat out broke some specs between legion and bfa.
@Artist-mb9vp
7 жыл бұрын
I would love to see player housing in vanilla. It would have been awesome. I would, however, not allow players to put their houses everywhere, but would make some pre-generated locations for those houses from which you can choose from. It would been probably too complex for the technology back then though.
@netkyou6742
7 жыл бұрын
I love the intro/outro music.
@Lucifronz
7 жыл бұрын
I hear that Darkest Dungeon music you mixed in there. Very nice.
@jawstrock2215
6 жыл бұрын
There were alot of unused portals all over, one in Stormwind symetric to the prison instance(many speculated it was for an instanced player housing... for some reason), portal in stratholme(mostlikely entrance ot Naxxramax like MC was inside BRD... ), etc(most notable 2 I remember off hand)
@corneliuswonderfoot4569
7 жыл бұрын
You can still go into the Old Outlands in The Deadmines with a demon hunter.
@TerrySterling-Thatguy
7 жыл бұрын
Cloaks were not cut content, They were removed much later. We wore them through WOTLK
@peterdworzanski7177
4 жыл бұрын
Player housing is easily one of of my favorite reasons to plan an mmo though. I spent months on my homes in SWG
@chrism4065
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome channel with real fun interesting facts. Thanks for the effort 👍
@Strrroke
7 жыл бұрын
I think they shouldn't have removed stuff that created "faction imbalance". Now which side you want to play for is merely an aesthetical question. Aside from races and different capital cities Alliance and Horde are almost the same. I remember playing EverQuest 2 (my first mmorpg) and the majority of classes there were restricted to your faction. For example, only Good rogues could become swashbucklers while their Evil counterpart developed into burglars. That feature made faction choice really important.
@Grimmay
7 жыл бұрын
During the Time Shaman had Unleash Elements, if you had Rockbiter on your weapon Unleash would Taunt so 100% tank mode
@mathiasvadelius8721
7 жыл бұрын
neat that you actually mentioned the similarites between plainsrunning and running wild, i told you that a while back ;)
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Yep...thanks again for that!
@vaellir6329
6 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see buckler/shield thing and armor type for cloaks as well as some changes for class specializations - disco priest as dps spec more than healing one would be great, because I find it really strange that if you want to play as dps priest the only way to do that is to pick shadow spec, which doesn't go well with (LF) Draeneis or Nelves etc...
@joeparry1139
7 жыл бұрын
Genuinely love your content man, keep it up!
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man...I appreciate it!
@SlingshotFooty
5 жыл бұрын
It's been 2.5 years...time for another video!
@andrefuhrbrah
5 жыл бұрын
The best WoW channel I've come across for sure! Love the vids bro
@ikaridlinkk
7 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool videos, keep up the good work!
@exocd
7 жыл бұрын
id argue that shaman tanks did make it for a time, I know of at least one tanking in vanilla (I think he was healing too) and it was possible in burning crusade! although each patch iteration they did lost more and more of their tanking abilities
@succi5245
7 жыл бұрын
RIP Hayven man
@jfgkledfc7726
7 жыл бұрын
Holy crap man i remember when subed to you when you were below 1k subs now you are 40k good job man keep it up
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching for so long! I appreciate that
@phantom_bread
5 жыл бұрын
i like how MadSeason actually credits his sources
@kafaen1983
7 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, keep up the good work :) Best regards from Norway :)
@centuriondominicus7871
7 жыл бұрын
they could of done player housing if they did it like this, make multipul buildings players could buy and go into however more ppl can buy this, and you'd just get phased upon entering the home. Within the home you can now place objects to decorate
@BummedProductions
7 жыл бұрын
I am addicted to your intro song
@Imatree
7 жыл бұрын
Providing the correct type of credits to those other people gained yourself another viewer :)
@Majinjef2099
7 жыл бұрын
i remember tanking on an enh shammy with frost shock as a "taunt" cause it drew so much threat.
@katsarelas1947
7 жыл бұрын
RIP Hayven, cited for so many Warcraft videos, died of cancer a few weeks ago.
@Kamelot19
3 жыл бұрын
early vanilla had no ships. you just had to talk to the captain at the harbor for example in the wetlands and he would teleport you. he also talked english no matter which client language you used.
@cupriferouscatalyst3708
7 жыл бұрын
now i might be remembering this wrong, but didnt the two old versions of outland/hellfire peninsula share maps with deadmines and zul'gurub respectively? back in late tbc my friend used to host a private server for just the two of us, give us both GM status and just mess around in the game. i had already heard that there were some floating islands near the final room of the deadmines, but ive never heard anyone else mention hellfire peninsula in zul'gurub before or since i saw it, and im starting to doubt my own memory. what i did was that i used a flying cheat to get over the mountains surrounding the instanced zul'gurub map, only to find a vast expanse of red landmass with orcish buildings, floating crystals and mushrooms, which from memory looked exactly like the footage of early hellfire peninsula seen in this and other videos. would anyone here be able to confirm this?
@roli124
7 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much. Keep up the good work!
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it, Roland!
@trickpa80
7 жыл бұрын
Great video Mads
@OG_OJ
5 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Hayven Games
@BrossGameage
5 жыл бұрын
The floating island in nagrand with an apple tree and a guy with an axe in the head is not about isaac newton but its about william tell’s legend
@DrPluton
7 жыл бұрын
You could have added that they removed the paladin strike system that was interactive in the beta that would have allowed paladins to DPS or tank instead of being stuck as healbots. I was never a fan of the seal system from Classic, and it never felt fun until Wrath of the Lich King simplified it.
@josephhuggins5394
5 жыл бұрын
seals were super useful to your team tho, not everything should have to be about raw dps or tanking. not enough ppl appreciated the utility of palys or druids or shamans at the time wow first came out i feel. and thier importance was hugely downplayed being called a meme class.
@Clonetrooper637
7 жыл бұрын
They could still add an actual player housing system. They could make a small little instanced zone that each character gets and you can put your house within that zone.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Yep it would definitely have to be outside of the normal world(similar to the garrison style I imagine)
@Clonetrooper637
7 жыл бұрын
They could do it. I'd just hope they don't make us grind resources to build or upgrade it.
@Mushrakun
7 жыл бұрын
Final fantasy style would be better. In each city they have living quarters for players, which are instanced neighbourhoods accessed from a ferry or instanced zone change. Everyone in the neighbourhood coul see the outside of the houses but only those with permissions could enter thm
@Clonetrooper637
7 жыл бұрын
That kinda sounds like what Lotro has.
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool. I never played that game, but that sounds like a good way to implement it. Maybe have a special instance for whole guilds as well? Would be great for RP servers I'm sure
@Penzig
7 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't use D3 music at the end - now I just wanna play Diablo!! :P
@angiestrowbridge2157
6 жыл бұрын
nothing triggers me more than vanilla Azshara. The lvl 50 rogue quest made you spend a long time in there and it was awful.
@MutualDeath
7 жыл бұрын
kinda wish there were houses to buy but guild housing, top guilds would be able to purchase land to build their own guild hall that guildmates can meet up.
@SMVvids
7 жыл бұрын
I don't care if it was an April Fool's Day Joke or Not, I still want to see Playable Two-Headed Ogres. That'd be Interesting.
@NexerdGamer
7 жыл бұрын
Great job on this one!
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nex!
@Electric0eye
5 жыл бұрын
The original female troll idle was actually kinda cool, gave it personality. Though the updated faces would've helped
@Kknifepo1nt
5 жыл бұрын
Blizz planned to have POH instanced. thats what the portal in stormwind was placed there for
@captainhailstorm
7 жыл бұрын
If only they added mounts for when your dead so you can get back to your corpse... That's one thing that didn't make it into the game (for some reason it has in certain spots where you don't even really need it)
@jrg7777
5 жыл бұрын
Put in plainsrunning now! Just copy what the worgen have. The windup animation could even be the hoof pedal bulls tend to do before charging.
@stephaniesahli8197
7 жыл бұрын
you can still get to old outlands but you need to be a demon hunter.
@attius8856
4 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2019 and watching the cities being confusing part has me wondering what happened from that to Dazar’alor
@Djuntas
7 жыл бұрын
I still think its so weird for Blizzard to make all this content, just to scrape it. I wonder if other game dev's/studios waste this much work and effort too?
@train123z
7 жыл бұрын
Scrape?
@OhNoTheFace
6 жыл бұрын
The other version of discipline sounds waaaaaaaaaaay more interesting
@PbasR
7 жыл бұрын
I remember tanking low lvl dungs on my shammy I also had an equip shield button for when tanks died
@JakeJohnson-gw5ny
7 жыл бұрын
rip hayven
@brandonboss6868
7 жыл бұрын
I want a house in WOW. They should just make thousands of spots around azeroth to put houses and once their filled, your sol, until they find more spots. Idk I just like the idea.
@ShoteR_Omega
7 жыл бұрын
another great video mad , thx!
@madseasonshow
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching brother!
@Reverberate_
7 жыл бұрын
If garrisons would've been executed correctly, I think they could've made player housing work.
@CyclopsToppingWolverine
7 жыл бұрын
I haven't lost hope for that Shaman tank spec. Druids have four specs, why can't they add another for Shaman!
@MrEpic-qe2tt
6 жыл бұрын
A Cat I feel like a fourth spec for every class would be cool but probably unneeded.
@JPLOWMAN2
7 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the original version of the Emerald Dream
@mitchconner2021
6 ай бұрын
God I love these video's. :( gonna miss your wow content man
@madseasonshow
6 ай бұрын
Thanks dude, I don't consider to be a WoW channel anymore but I got some more planned :D. Should have another next month I think
@bradsmith8977
7 жыл бұрын
What sucks for me is you have buy your poisins for your rogue instead of making them
@Keltix22
7 жыл бұрын
You can still get to Old Outland in Deadmines as a Demon Hunter
@casualcanna1151
5 жыл бұрын
Holy mother of shittles, imagine being able to place a house in a place like Ashenvale or even Elwynn Forest... and I'm a die-hard Horde fanboy.
@jaredwarburton8749
7 жыл бұрын
Never gonna lie, I want that Melee Disc priest hybrid.
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