No, Game of Thrones didn't "ruin" Wheel of Time or Rings of Power, they were abysmally BAD shows that pissed on the graves of their original creators.
@jcehlert
7 ай бұрын
At least they aren't as bad as The Sword of Truth series.
@bryanslick8704
7 ай бұрын
The Rings of Power is a very good show which has been review-bombed by an extremely loud and self-righteous MINORITY.
@brotherbeat6541
7 ай бұрын
@@bryanslick8704if only that was true.
@JasonJones-og2ft
7 ай бұрын
I came to say the same thing
@AndyBarkerBee
7 ай бұрын
Yes, this. Couldn’t agree more with FiliusFidelis 🎉
@rijrunner
7 ай бұрын
Game of Thrones ruined the last 3 seasons of Game of Thrones
@Chrissykat24
7 ай бұрын
One might say that the two show-runners ruined the last 3 seasons by rushing and forgetting important character arcs and plot points.
@blackdragon6
7 ай бұрын
You mean the last 4 seasons 😉
@caronstout354
7 ай бұрын
D&D ruins the last 3 seasons of GoT by trying, and failing, to continuing the storylines without coherent source material ( The books stopped at S5).
@danii7584
7 ай бұрын
@@caronstout354 apparently netflix picked up dumb&dumber and while they did nothing meaningful most of the time they apparently get to adapt the three body problem now.
@danii7584
7 ай бұрын
the pace definitely ruined the last few seasons, as well as other some questionable things, but one has to keep in mind that dear old george roughtly told them how the book are supposed to end, so now that the bad reception of the ending has happened george refuses to end the books, because it's probably too close to what he planned to write.
@jacobcardona2457
7 ай бұрын
Y'all have an entire channel dedicated to Star Trek so idk about The Expanse really ruining the new shows
@KWard120
7 ай бұрын
Watching Star Trek now, just makes one want to go back and rewatch the Expanse or pick up the books 📚
@mischarowe
7 ай бұрын
Yeah I think it's more like The Expanse showed us just how much better others CAN be.
@mischarowe
7 ай бұрын
@@KWard120 I need to get started on the books. I have the first lol.📚
@danii7584
7 ай бұрын
yeh, technically it's a different subgenre so it doesn't kill classic scifi. later star trek simply is badly written.
@grubelli
7 ай бұрын
A good series of a certain genre does not "ruin" other series of that genre.
@Sellswordking
7 ай бұрын
I mean, Mike Flanagan pretty demonstrably proves that wrong by virtue of going “No, *this* is how you do it”, but then again a dead slug could produce better art than Ryan Murphy so grain of salt I guess
@LuvtheJEm
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. What ruins them is studio greed. They want to copy another network's successful show without putting in the time and effort to get it right. If it's well written, acted and directed/produced, it's not going to be ruined.
@calcutlass
7 ай бұрын
No need to play obtuse, you know what they're saying.
@taejasper1343
7 ай бұрын
I mean, sometimes it can, like Lost had huge popularity and success, that basically everyone else in Hollywood now wanted their own similar signature mystery series like it! And so, it did kinda ruin the mystery genre a bit after it influence everyone else after it! Bro, it's pretty evident if you see any new mystery series coming out now, at least most of them, they have some similarities that have been at least partially influenced by Lost in some way, and it's pretty noticable, too!
@taejasper1343
7 ай бұрын
@@LuvtheJEmYeah, but not always, bro! Sometimes it's the writing/quality of the story itself and it can feel rushed if the ending, as well as the entire series, isn't paced right! So you have to be careful and cautious when you try to live to the hype and success of that incredible series' success in its first two seasons!
@jyveturkey1894
7 ай бұрын
Rings and wheel suck all on their own and need no help from anyone or anything to suck.
@mischarowe
7 ай бұрын
Silver lining: there is still hope for WoT. Since season 2 was objectively better than season 1.
@mischarowe
7 ай бұрын
@@danii7584 Little confusion here: I was talking about Wheel of Time. I mis-typed. I'll edit that now.
@xriiwx6658
7 ай бұрын
you can't compare 11 season of TWD to eight episodes of TLOU , keep in mind that earlier sesaon of TWD were PEAK tv
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
Yes. The first couple seasons of TWD (at least) had great character development and storytelling.
@FleetwoodTheProfit
7 ай бұрын
I like The Last of Us, but calm down it's only been 1 season. IF it lasts as long as the Walking Dead, then we'll judge.
@ohcrap2222
7 ай бұрын
The next season will not be liked.... they are pushing harder on bad aspects of the game and people will not like it.
@poincianab12
7 ай бұрын
Most valid an accurate comment
@FleetwoodTheProfit
7 ай бұрын
Yep. I like it, darn good show but it's not put in the work to say it ruined TWD.
@tsrgoinc
7 ай бұрын
The Last of Us is complete shite, that shat all over its source material! A mix of wooden and or over the top acting, poor re-characterisations of beloved characters and embarrassing subplot lines written to drive the narrative made me really appreciate just how much I under appreciated the LOU part 2. The series is utter drivel.
@dannyevans1235
7 ай бұрын
The last of us did not ruin twd. Yeah twd did slow down by the end but the prime of it is head and shoulders above the last of us. That was a borefest.
@dwightyboy5324
7 ай бұрын
People forget how great TWD was for it's first 5 seasons and how genuinely popular the show was. The Last Of Us show I think is a bit overrated tbh, doesn't go anywhere near peak TWD
@DonnieHanby
7 ай бұрын
"Lost ruined other mystery shows" - Fair. They had to live down that horrible too long show. "Game of Thrones ruined Wheel of Time and Rings of Power" - No, they ruined themselves "Expanse ruined modern Star Trek Shows" - No, they ruined themselves. Except for Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds. Those two are fantastic. "Haunting of Hill House ruined American Horror Story" - Fair. "Succession ruined Billions" - No, the studio running that show for too long did it. Not Succession. "Andor ruined every other Star Wars show" - No. Again, they ruined themselves. "The Wire ruined every cop show" - That one is fair. No one could live up to that. "Daredevil ruined the Arrowverse" - Again...it ruined itself. "Last of US ruined Walking Dead" - No. The Walking Dead got oversaturated. And TLoU does not deserve all the praise it got. My hill that I will die on is that journalists who have no idea what a good game is gave TLoU too much credit and then it just sort of caught on and has stunk up the joint since. Neither show is intrinsically better than the other one. It is just that TLoU is the new hotness which I wish would just go away. "South Park ruined Family Guy" - Seriously? Both shows are on their own comedic wavelengths. This whole listicle is just personal opinions. It is like you guys just sat there and decided to compare shows while having some beers and made up stuff as you went along.
@Erichev
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for listing all of the BS comparisons in this video ... YET AGAIN by WC. I'd watch Star Trek over most any Scifi shows. Andor was damn good, but I would re-watch season 1/2 of Mandalorian before Andor. And Lower Decks is one of the best ST shows ever. TLoU was good, but strayed too much from the game for brevities sake. Season 1 should have been 2 seasons. They left out too much. TWD seasons 1-5 were superb. I was hooked immediately. Whereas I only watched TLoU because I played the games. My wife stopped watching it after 2 episodes. And she's seen all of TWD and almost all of the spin-offs (FtWD fell off quickly).
@brynellsidney3983
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing The Wire some much deserved love....
@melindalevins6197
7 ай бұрын
Reno 911 ruined Cops and other shows like that
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
I can't attest to that, but Reno 911 was one of those shows that should have gotten way more seasons.
@seaconfused
7 ай бұрын
Daredevil makes all kind of "verse" shows like playing dress-up. That's why I'm really scared about what Disney's version would do the these characters.
@Erichev
7 ай бұрын
I preferred Arrow, Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. To me they were more entertaining than Daredevil. I felt like DD was too slow paced. I stopped watching Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and the kung fu guy show. Didn't mind Punisher, but it was better than JJ, LC, and KF guy.
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
@@Erichev I loved Jessica Jones, or at least the first season (haven't seen the second). David Tennant's performance was stellar. He makes a fantastic villain.
@danii7584
7 ай бұрын
well, then again the boys shts on daredevil, even directly makes fun of it via the "differently abled super hero" scene.
@Sea-Bird..
7 ай бұрын
@@danii7584 I can see why some may prefer The Boys over DD or vice-versa, but to say one shits on the other is absurdly dumb
@niteshpanda2156
7 ай бұрын
And this is how I ruined 12 minutes of my life.
@kylesummers420
7 ай бұрын
I’m an avid TWD fan and can accept its many flaws. But saying it ruined TLOU is completely wrong. I’d argue that TWD redefined what the zombie genre was, especially up to season 5 and from 9 onwards (I’d even argue season 6-8 as it’s my favourite arc). TLOU attempted to do what TWD had already done 10 years prior instead of going with the tropes TWD set. I don’t mind TLOU but the filler episodes are at best as good as one of the worse filler TWD episodes. I don’t think they got the pacing right is what I’m saying.
@AnntheTheatreFan
7 ай бұрын
Arrow was quite good in its first season. Dark, moody, with interesting character background. All these anti-hero vibes were very engaging and with a just right amount of violence to keep things interesting but not to avert less familiar with the character audience (like me, 23f at the time). But when they added to a rather grounded, matter of fact show the Multiverse stuff, magic, soap-opera subplots, and retconning the island events it became unwatchable.
@Ceares
7 ай бұрын
Every show doesn't need to be deep, dark and meaningful. There's nothing wrong with shows being soapy, super tropey or more procedural or lighter in tone. As long as they do what they're doing well, then no other show can "ruin" them. Reminds me of when people were comparing Psych and the Mentalist, two shows going for completely different things, just because they shared a general premise.
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
Good point.
@KyleWillLivingston
7 ай бұрын
Even though I still like it, what show ruined American Horror Story is America Horror Story. And you picked the wrong superhero show. Agents of SHIELD ruined Arrowverse so much that in the later seasons of The Flash tried to copy AoS's story structure.
@Erichev
7 ай бұрын
I forgot about AoS. Which might mean something if I hadn't watched 200+ tv series. Too many to remember them all.
@Just_Pele
7 ай бұрын
LOTR was a trainwreck from the start, with terrible casting, poor writing, and even worse direction. It's the very definition of a woke disaster, where intersectionality dictated hiring decisions rather than experience and merit, made worse by attempting to shoehorn that very same narrative into the story itself.
@eddmario
7 ай бұрын
I think the reason The Last of Us TV show is so beloved was because the director of the games was also involved directly with the show, which is how all movie/tv show adaptations of other forms of media should be.
@Miller54K
7 ай бұрын
CBS ruined Star Trek, not the expanse. They turned one of the most hopeful, optimistic shows in history and turned it into a nihilistic, dystopian nightmare. They pissed on Genes vision and disrespected fans. What we have now isnt Star Trek. Its an abomination.
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
I haven't seen the new shows, but the description "a nihilistic, dystopian nightmare" sounds fascinating. Just not what Star Trek is. The optimism and the depiction of a progressive, equitable future was at the core of what TNG was (the series I am most familiar with).
@Miller54K
7 ай бұрын
@zoyadulzura7490 Unfortunately nihilism is what kids are learning today. I spoke with my nephew whos in college learning about writing and he told me they're basically failing anyone that isn't writing nihilism. Anything upbeat, optimistic, hopeful, ect gets downgraded. It seems we will have to put up with "dark gritty" shows for a while before it works itself out.
@smileyklock
7 ай бұрын
Game of Thrones did not ruin the shows from Amazon Amazon ruined those shows all on there own stupid merit.
@XTheLolX301
7 ай бұрын
The Walking Dead was ruined before The last of us came out
@georginalynnrotteau-debie7936
7 ай бұрын
Sorry I don't think South park ruined Family guy i havent watch south park in ages and i love family guy
@dwightyboy5324
7 ай бұрын
Honestly I find South Park overrated. South Park kinda became bad after like 2005
@SierraGolfNiner
7 ай бұрын
The Expanse didn’t “ruin” Star Trek. They are, for the most part, vastly different shows. That’s like saying “Lost” ruined Star Trek because they’re both SciFi. Star Trek Discovery was a pivot to the new “gritty” TV format that wasn’t well received by a lot of trek fans. It’s also not written in any sort of logical fashion, the main storylines for the seasons are ALL over the place. Probably the highlight of that show will be the Section 31 spin off. Also ST Lower Decks and ST Strange New Worlds are AMAZING shows. SNW does a great job of showing how amazing Trek can be if you’re willing to break the mold a little bit. And LD is hilarious and self-referential in all the best ways. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the Expanse as well, they have fantastic near-future SciFi that is strongly tied to real physics in a way that is just so enjoyable for the “hard” sci-fi types… but it’s no where in the same realm of Star Trek. Also the problem with Billions was the same problem that happens to lots of shows, you keep trying to one up yourself until life becomes absurd. Also Damian Lewis’s wife dying and him stepping out of the show was the biggest loss. It was a great cast, but Ax was the megalomaniacal glue that held it all together. The Prince character just didn’t do it. The end of Billions was great, when Ax was back.
@GroundhogJay
7 ай бұрын
People actually watched Billions for 7 seasons? That's an epic twist.
@WillisVision
7 ай бұрын
The Walking Dead destroyed itself with bad decisions by showrunner Scott Gimple, and now they've oversaturated the market with too many watered-down spin offs. Even without The Last of Us, The Walking Dead would be on life support, lol.
@simonmccormack
7 ай бұрын
Netflix’s Daredevil is the baseline that Disney need to be better than, but we know they will get nowhere near
@DrNothing23
7 ай бұрын
Gotta say, "Wire vs. Shield?" is a good question...
@VonPunk
7 ай бұрын
I'd choose The Wire, as much as I love The Shield. I think those two along with Hill Street Blues, Homicide: Life On The Street & NYPD Blue are my top 5 cop shows of all time and I don't think anything released in last 15 years even comes close to changing my list.
@johntaylorson7769
7 ай бұрын
The Wire is in a class of it's own entirely. Controversial I know, but I think even The Sopranos is poor in comparison- or at least has a lot more faults. That said, the Shield has a much better overall narrative arc and finale than pretty much any show I've ever seen, including The Wire, Breaking Bad, Sopranos etc. The Shield seemed such a great complete package and the end managed to be both surprising AND satisfying, which is really difficult to pull off.
@DrNothing23
7 ай бұрын
@@johntaylorson7769Indeed. The ending scene of the Shield gives me goosebumps every time I think about it. PERFECT fate for Mackey, IMO.
@johntaylorson7769
7 ай бұрын
@@DrNothing23 ain't it just? Caught me completely off guard - and indeed frustrated some mates of mine, who wanted something different - but I thought it was absolutely brilliant writing. Shane's closure too. Never seen a series finale as good as that.
@cedricbrookins4851
7 ай бұрын
I like the arrowverse . Every superhero thing doesn't have to be dark. That is what hurts the dceu. And other stuff!
@SuperLocrian
7 ай бұрын
I'll take Grant over Ezra any time!
@docgrey3826
7 ай бұрын
Calling BS. Rings of power ruined itself. They need to listen to the fans next time. If you want to blow a billion dollars and have a chance of making some of it back, Listen to the fans and not self-centered writers who blew off the only thing that could have made Rings of Power special. Tolken.
@ambientq7299
7 ай бұрын
I dont agree that TLOU ruined Walking Dead. They are wildly different, even if they appear the same. TLOU is about getting an immune person from point A to point B. Walking Dead is about survival. Yes, the character drama is amazing in TLOU, because we mainly focus on two characters, you dont even see the Clickers that much (unlike the games). While Walking Dead is an ensemble cast, and the Walkers are constant threat and always there. Its a vastly different take on the same premise, and one doesnt ruin the other
@patrickarseneault7407
7 ай бұрын
the last of us didnt ruined the walking dead. the two are completly different. one is a zombie show and the other is a fungal mutation
@Paulc71189
7 ай бұрын
I think it’s pretty stupid to say any show ruined some other show. Any show that failed did so because they weren’t very good to begin with. It’s possible to have more than 1 good show in a genre so if one did well and one didn’t then there’s usually a reason.
@calcutlass
7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised The Boys didn't make this list. Makes other hero shows look like Saturday morning cartoons.
@jeffreycarman2185
7 ай бұрын
3:29 Trek needs to keep being Trek. It shows that it doesn’t really do gritty or realistic sci-fi, and it really shouldn’t try. Trek was always the high-tech space utopia, and a gritty noir dystopian show like The Expanse just isn’t the same thing. So the seasons of Strange New Worlds that tried to go full-gritty just weren’t that good. I’m glad they switched it up for the later seasons. I do think Picard pulled off gritty noir a bit better, but it didn’t feel as much like Trek as it should have.
@koda-manmusic6259
7 ай бұрын
Rings of Power killed Rings of Power.
@rafaelpozo9962
7 ай бұрын
Rings of power it's bad by itself, same with wheel of time, no need to blame others for their failure And TWD started to go south long before Tlou started, starwars was ruined since Disney bought it
@GroundhogJay
7 ай бұрын
The ending of Lost was perfect and emotionally satisfying. And I will die on this hill.
@doctor_sixty
7 ай бұрын
You will die alone. 😅
@colinthedogfromspaced9365
7 ай бұрын
Well said Mr Flibble.
@mischarowe
7 ай бұрын
🪦🪦
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly disagree, but it is oddly comforting to me that there are people who enjoy the end. It verifies that its creation was not a waste. Also, I've got my own random hills to die on, so I get it.
@KoolKeithProductions
7 ай бұрын
@@zoyadulzura7490may l ask what exactly was your issue with the ending of Lost? This channel repeatedly claims that it was "divisive", but it seems like there was only a small vocal minority who disliked it.
@doclewis8927
7 ай бұрын
I stopped watching Lost when NONE of Season 2 answered any of my questions from Season 1. I watched about half of Season 2 before I realized that they were NEVER going to answer the questions I had and they didn't answer them until the last season apparently. I've only watched "recaps" and "reviews". For some reason, I happened to watch Lost only one more time and it was halfway through the episode where Charlie died. I had no idea what was going on except that my favorite (or one of them) characters died. I cried even though I hadn't watched since halfway through season 2. That's how good of a character Charlie was.
@blackdragon6
7 ай бұрын
Totally agree about the wire, at least for me. Same with Andor. I disagree about The Last of Us tho. Because Scott Gimple ruined The Walking Dead. Not TLOU.
@transmascdruid77
7 ай бұрын
imho, the only show that holds a candle to LOST in terms of being a solid scifi mystery show is DARK.
@denimdan908
7 ай бұрын
I started watching the series "From" that was created by the creators of Lost. And just like Lost, the series started off as an absolute banger, and like Lost it took an unnecessarily ridiculous turn in the story line. I should have known better...
@BarbarosaAlexander
7 ай бұрын
I've only just started Andor, but I'm loving it. The Walking Dead's greatest threat was Season 2 and forward of The Walking Dead.
@kenz.hiireath
7 ай бұрын
Nah American Horror Story ruined itself
@taejasper1343
7 ай бұрын
Lost was ruined after season 2 for, because of all of the "mystery boxes" J.J. Abrams kept setting up in the series and then we never really truly got to figure out why the gang was there on the island to begin with at all! Damn it, man! J.J. just couldn't help himself, bro! And then, unfortunately, we had other mystery shows trying follow in its footsteps and wanting to capture the success and fanbase that it has, but ultimately ended failing and then falling flat on their faces, like Debris for example, aired on NBC in 2021, from JH Whyman, who wrote for Lost for a few seasons, and had some other Lost vet writers on the show, it centered on the mystery of this weird looking machine called "the Debris", and it was doing some pretty strange shit and a team was called to go out and investigate it! It was a pretty fun series, but it seemed pretty clear that it was trying to capture that same audience and success as Lost and its influence was pretty clear, too, as Whyman had worked on the series with J.J. Abrams for several years on that and other shows, so yeah, but it looks like that failed, as the show started out pretty decently in the ratings with over 5 million tuning in, viewers quickly started tuning out as it went on! Leading to a steep decline in viewership and ultimately at the end of the first season, show was cancelled! And it proved that not all series can capture that same energy that Lost had, bro! It had a specific formula embedded into it that worked for it for a while, but that formula is not sustainable long term! It has to be done right and it doesn't last long, either! But yeah, that's the price you have to pay for a show with that formula! You end sacrificing creative storytelling and being unique to trying to chase the big dogs and stuff like that! The elites, the head honchos, etc.! They tried and failed to make something that could have its own fanbase and had a compelling storyline, but it got far too focused on trying to be Lost! And it didn't work out at all! What a shame, such a disappointment, and a waste of creativity that it could've had if they'd just tried to make their own show instead of trying to copy another show that had an already successful formula for its story!
@bryanslick8704
7 ай бұрын
This list is just absurd, as many lists based solely on opinion(s) tend to be. 'Lost' didn't ruin anything but itself around the middle of Season 3. It was airy crap that fell apart as soon as the writers needed to actually come up with any answers to their previously-undefined "mysteries". 'The Expanse" in no way affects enjoyment of any other series. Etc, etc, etc. The other points are equally ridiculous, particularly the bit about 'The Wire', during which the writer contradicts their "point" by labeling the show as underrated. No show "ruins" an other show in the mind of someone who doesn't spend their enjoyment if media in constant, childish comparison of other shows to what's currently on the screen. WhatCulture in the 2010s was far, far, FAR superior to WhatCulture in the 2020s, but neither is "ruined" by the other in any direction, by any slice of comparison, etc. WhatCulture 2020s is ruining WhatCulture 2020s.
@Chrissykat24
7 ай бұрын
Agreed this whole list i subjective. You can watch all these shows and still get enjoyment out of anything that came after. People gotta stop comparing everything and just accept each show for what it is.
@DaleRibbons
7 ай бұрын
If the Expanse is that great, how come I've never heard of it before now?
@Dragnfly_mynamewastaken
7 ай бұрын
Having this mindset must absolutely suck. Especially since for the people inflicted with it, it likely applies to everything else in their life. I hope people trapped in this can eventually learn to develop past it.
@dthomas4566
7 ай бұрын
The expanse really is a fucking gem 💎, I was skeptical until season 2 and now three isn't anything like it And then Andor made all other Star wars shows look completely full of shit
@Narsil31
6 ай бұрын
The Expanse is the best sci-fi show that has been made IMO. The Expanse faithfully adapted the books to screen. An amazing show if you haven't seen it or read the book I recommend you do both.
@goldwavetv7456
7 ай бұрын
There are a million different reasons people aren't feeling the new Star Trek shows. I guarantee The Expanse has absolutely nothing to do with it
@jeffreycarman2185
7 ай бұрын
8:43 the Arrowverse had a short period of time where it caught my attention. But it just got more and more absurd and they kept trying to jump the shark over and over. It just got painful to watch. I lost interest and almost immediately forgot about it, and only remember it when I see something like this video to remind me. Conversely Daredevil feels like prestige television, and the characters and themes really stick with you.
@commandZee
7 ай бұрын
An argument can be made that the Battle Star Galactica reboot ruined Star Trek and other sci-fi space series before The Expanse.
@blackdragon6
7 ай бұрын
That's a good point!
@jeffreycarman2185
7 ай бұрын
6:53 for me, Andor is a compelling show. I am a Star Wars and Sci-fi fan, but very few pieces of sci-fi or space opera media moved me and had me so deeply invested in the narrative and the characters. Even, and this pains me to say, A New Hope or maybe even Empire were probably not as well written and well-rounded as Andor.
@zoyadulzura7490
7 ай бұрын
Agreed, those two movies are excellent, but they're not as deep as Andor.
@getnohappy
7 ай бұрын
The Expanse, with its diverse cast and characters (especially the later seasons) and intricate critiques of capitalism, colonialism, terrorism (etc) exposed the superficial progressivism that Discovery desperately used to market itself. And the less said about Picard S2's social commentary the better.
@Erichev
7 ай бұрын
Where are Banshee, Breaking Bad, Spartacus, True Blood, Money Heist, Battlestar Galactica, Sopranos, Vikings, and Dexter?
@jcehlert
7 ай бұрын
Game of Thrones on HBO is fan fiction. I read those books back when they were released, and they are far darker than the show.
@anuchakanchanasuwan3439
7 ай бұрын
Fringe>X-Files
@tiajuanacoates4687
7 ай бұрын
You half mentioned it but I thought maybe it would get a mention the first season of True Detective ruined the other seasons of True Detective. Nothing was going to live up to that first season, I guess that's why it's good to quit while you're ahead.
@aaronworthing1023
7 ай бұрын
That episode of South Park would probably have more cultural impact if Comedy Central didn’t Chicken out and censor it
@matthewfisher2707
7 ай бұрын
Ummm no. Picard and Lower Decks beg to differ.
@kahlanwilliams267
7 ай бұрын
Seem to have dodged a number of bullets here. Managed to not watch most of the "ruinous" series and enjoyed a number of the "ruined" ones. In particular I've quite enjoyed the 3 new trek series, still enjoy ncis, family guy is still a laugh mostly (though since Seth stepped away from the writing it's not as good) Also, like most people I was able to watch the Dark Marvel series and the arrowverse and understand the differences between their aims and get entertainment from both.
@Fanney47
7 ай бұрын
Lol. This vid. "We liked these shows a lot more than these other shows so the latter shows ARE RUINED FOREVER" 😂🙈 Sure, okay. Also feels a bit pretentious. Lol
@VampireMadonna
7 ай бұрын
Titles like this are such trigger bait. Maybe it's just me but I've never even thought to compare GoT to Wheels of Time or Rings of Power, just like I didn't compare GoT to the LOTR trilogy when it aired. Not to mention that the trailers alone would've told anyone interested that neither show was going to be anything like GoT. Things are allowed to have similarities yet stand on their own. It's also worth mentioning that GoT began going down hill after S3-4 so even a show that started out that highly acclaimed isn't infallible.
@jeffreycarman2185
7 ай бұрын
9:58 I was a HUGE Walking Dead fan. But the repetitive story telling and the killing off of basically the entire cast. I was steeped in the first six seasons. I lost interest for a while, then tried to get back into it but I just refused to keep watching after season 8 or 9 (I don’t recall, because the show was so repetitive that I can’t remember which time they lost everything and everyone). The same goes with the less popular related show Fear The Walking Dead. When that show became just another version of The Walking Dead, with different characters, it just lost its draw for me. The Last of Us, still has the potential to be lame in the future, it’s kind of like Seasons 1 or 2 of The Walking Dead and Fear The Walking Dead at this point. Yes the writing, acting, and production are probably a bit higher on The Last of Us, but that’s not what made TWD and FTWD go way downhill.
@Pyne56
7 ай бұрын
Having recently finished Succession and then starting Billions, they’re not really comparable IMO. Two very different shows in terms of tone.
@williamruiz4571
7 ай бұрын
I need to watch the Cartoon Wars episode.
@showmesumass
7 ай бұрын
Yall lost me at the Billions/ Succession comparison. That one was a reach. The first season of Succession was Tubi quality and its never really recovered from that imo. Billions has always hit its mark.
@killingragethrowback
7 ай бұрын
A lot of American shows have the Lost problem, including Game of Thrones. They don't end it right and always screw up the landing.
@tronicman1
7 ай бұрын
Umm, no. Though I like the Expanse, I also love Picard, Strange new Worlds, and the other Star Trek shows. So it's with Wheel of time - the second season was really good.
@l00k4tstuff
7 ай бұрын
Wheel of Time was ruined by its production company. Deviations from the books can be okay as long as the story still makes sense unto itself. It just doesn't. ST: Discovery and Picard were typical bad attempts to do ST w/o understanding the audience, although Picard was more fan-service than ST series. ST:SNW is ST getting back to its roots. The Expanse is that once in a decade epic show, and shouldn't be compared. That would be like comparing Battlestar Gallactica (2000s version) with Stargate SG1. Both are enjoyable but for different reasons. Andor didn't ruin the other SW shows, but it did show us how bad 7, 8, & 9 were and raised the bar for future SW shows. We probably needed the other SW shows to get the studio to back doing Andor. The Wire was really good. Hard to say it ruined shows like NCIS, as those are so formula written if you watch one you've watched them all, regardless the variant. The Arrowverse was DC. DC has trouble writing anything with depth. In a sense, it was ruined out of the gate. Daredevil just reminded us of that.
@JoesCaribbeanVanLife
7 ай бұрын
Rings of Power ruined itself by not being LOTR lore accurate.
@bryancooper5495
7 ай бұрын
Let's be clear rings of power ruined itself
@TerryNutkins3
7 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who doesn't get the love for TLOU? I never played the game though knew the concept but the show is poorly put together it's like watching a live action walk through of the game rather than a tv show and how do you make a show with such a small number of episodes and still manage to have at least two that are filler (who the hell devotes an entire episode to two random characters that you are never going to see again before you have bothered to fill out any backstory on your main characters) and why did it take months for Joel to get Grogu (I mean Ellie) to the outpost only to discover the people who had asked him to take her there where already there seems like it would have been a lot easier for them to take her in the first place
@AndreiDinTheHouse
7 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that the Wire runes ALL other cop shows. It does ruin entirely serious cop dramas but ... both The Rookie and Brooklyn 99 are cop shows that don't take themselves seriously ... entirely. Brooklyn 99 is a straight-up comedy but The Rookie blends lighthearted storyline with more serious takes on various topics. The Wire takes the grit award but doesn't quite run everything else.
@zanethomas6865
7 ай бұрын
What's even more comical is that most of the shows are on HBO and there's an Max streaming pop up ad on my phone for the video. Me thinks I know what's going on here. 😂
@alexgarciala
7 ай бұрын
Hey WhatCulture, you’re starting to sound like ScreenRant. This is a ridiculous video. You’re basically saying any good show ruins any similar show that comes after it. Is your next video “ The Godfather ruined Goodfellas”?
@semajohn
7 ай бұрын
The Expanse is a modern day Babylon 5. The Haunting of Hill House isn't obsessed about porn and being gay.
@themanfromvolantis
7 ай бұрын
The narrator obviously wasn't paying attention in Last Of Us, since there are no zombies in it.
@jdtru1808
7 ай бұрын
Any list on the internet ruined this list.
@halfghaniteevee3559
7 ай бұрын
Andor isn't better than The Mandolorian either
@stingrey1571
7 ай бұрын
My wife became such a fan of succession. She thought billions was a copy cat. I had to keep telling her the latter came first.
@drakkar33
7 ай бұрын
Daredevil didn't ruin the Arrowverse. Cw ruined it themselves by pushing their agenda down our throats instead of continuing to have good storytelling. There are plenty of dark comics stories they could have taken from instead of forcing useless side stories on people
@haljordan777
7 ай бұрын
1:48 Game of Thrones didn't ruin Rings of Power. Rings of Power ruined itself.
@jayc3715
7 ай бұрын
The Walking Dead ruined the The Walking Dead. You have to know when to quit. Not only did they not quit but they doubled down on making even worse spinoffs.
@MrTheGadfly
7 ай бұрын
Expanse didn't ruin new Trek. Discovery ruined itself because it wanted to be Expanse (and failed miserably) and then made it harder for other new Trek to try to focus back on the old Trek.
@anhurtorrez
7 ай бұрын
GoT and Andor didn't kill off those other shows, Hollywood did. WoT is a great series that they mad it into a show and changed just about everything from the original story, RoP is just a cash grab to work on the fans, and again changed everything the fans loved about those shows, then there is Andor another line in the Star Wars that Disney made to cash into the IP to try to earn some more money. These people do not care about the original source materiel, they just want your money.
@BNEradio
7 ай бұрын
I agree with most of these but early Walking Dead is better than Last Of Us, Last Of Us was great but it needed maybe 2 more episodes, with more monsters.
@Quikbeam
7 ай бұрын
i dont know that these shows "ruined" other shows honestly. That seems like a really silly way of comparing other shows. Specially considering that some of these shows were not super popular, so in the wider audience they didnt actually ruin anything because they were not something that was watched widely.
@mikemcguckin8596
7 ай бұрын
If this list was any more of a stretch it'd snap
@kylepeters8690
7 ай бұрын
no, Got had nothing to do with Rings of power being trash. Also it's not GOT's fault if a show (like RIngs) openly claims it's trying to be the next GOT.
@the-icephoenix
7 ай бұрын
No, the new Star Trek shows were ruined by themselves and their writers
@tezhancalhoun-massey8180
7 ай бұрын
I think the wording of this video is the problem a lot of these shows didn’t ruin the other, they just didn’t make good tv
@Loch1210
7 ай бұрын
The Haunting Of Hillhouse ain’t better than AHS season 1 to me but both great
@meghanmmagicss2876
5 ай бұрын
Most of these things that are “ruined” is bc they ran for soo long and they milked those cows dry. But also not every show has to be deep dark heavy stuff. Silly camp and lighthearted is fun and fine
@poincianab12
7 ай бұрын
I watched one episode of Expanse maybe two cuz I don't remember...I've watched and intend to finish both recent Star Trek series...its just as much personal preference and generation
@jayc3715
7 ай бұрын
The Expanse starts off really slow. My friends almost gave up on it after a couple of episodes, talked them into watching, and they thanked me. It's starts off as film noir, but scales exponentially after that. Best Space/SciFi show I've ever seen, even better than Battlestar and Star Trek TNG.
@Otokichi786
7 ай бұрын
"Lost" (2004-2010) ruined most mystery shows "Game of Thrones" ruined "The Wheel of Time" and "Rings of Power" "The Expanse" ruined all new "Star Trek" shows. (Just The Message/Woke 'star trek" series) "The Haunting of Hill House" ruined "American Horror Story" (AHS was circling the drain before that.) "Succession" ruined "Billions" "Andor" ruined every other "Star Wars" show. "The Wire" ruined most Cop shows. "Daredevil" ruined the Arrowverse. "The Last of Us" ruined "The Walking Dead." "South Park" ruined "Family Guy". (Nope, "Bob's Burgers" replaced it.;)
@tribblefluffer
7 ай бұрын
Most of these shows ruined themselves and 50% of the people who claim to love GoT just want an excuse to watch porn on the big TV in the lounge.
@Whatisright
7 ай бұрын
The Wire didn't ruin anything for these other cop shows. The competition's the same, it just got more fierce. Daredevil and Punisher ruined the MCU.
@rikusschulze6249
7 ай бұрын
The Wheel of Time wasn't ruined by GoT. The Wheel Of Time was ruined by its producers and writers.
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