Thanks so much for the information. I was starting to get frustrated with my new bourbon hobby. Often people talk up a great bottle, but they are too difficult to find. So, I'm enjoying your talks.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! Join a free club and get involved. It will help you avoid the frustration. Cheers!
@sn1000k
Жыл бұрын
I'm too broke to buy those anyway but I've found a ton of stuff to enjoy. Don't worry!
@mattsamples7654
2 ай бұрын
Randy you are a very special guy. I love your attitude and your choices in bourbon I love you brother!!!!!
@TheBartholomewTeam
11 ай бұрын
love "i'm a TATER, and buy TATERific bottles." Thanks for the info, always good stuff!
@BourbonRealTalk
11 ай бұрын
It is good to be self aware!
@DaveH8905
Жыл бұрын
This is good stuff. I am a stickler. I don’t buy bourbons just “to try it out”. I do lots of research, and if I am not simply buying an existing personal favorite, I am looking for new favorites, so I read lots of tasting notes and lots of reviews, and buy fairly carefully. High priced 2 year bourbons, port finished whiskies, tater traps and super expensive blended bourbons I generally stay away from out of principle. I want pure crafted stuff. I end up having a lot less to choose from as a result, but that’s okay. I still have a list of about 40 bottles that are on my radar to eventually pick up over time.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you are doing it right my friend. Cheers!
@reedr7142
Жыл бұрын
Is there a formula for the difference between standard and barrel proof, so I can price compare when I'm in the store?
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Price of product/ABV= price per % of alcohol. Do that with both the regular and cask strength products. If the cask strength price per % of alcohol is much higher, then it might be a pass.
@lastcoyote2355
2 жыл бұрын
How about names of the liquors instead of titles … NDP name the brands .
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I don't trash brands. I teach people how to inform themselves so they can form their own opinion.
@jasonduke4283
3 жыл бұрын
I needed this 2 years ago, great information. Each palate and wallet is different but this will help me with my due diligence in the future. Excellent episode.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Cheers!
@RJDSUBGENIUS
3 жыл бұрын
I love your channel! It’s very helpful and I too lost my brother in 2017…being kind to your neighbors despite any “political” bs is a great thing! ✌️
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss! Together we change change the tide!
@WhiskyForBeginners
10 ай бұрын
2:23 I knew the slang term "juice" for whiskey *years* before I began drinking whisky. I know some people don't like it, but a lot of those same people say "dram" or "pour" when they mean whisky. As far as I'm concerned it's a matter of personal preference. 5:32 I tried that, and all I got was reviews. Of course some might include the MSRP, but none of the results actually were the MSRP.
@BourbonRealTalk
10 ай бұрын
It generally works for me, but I do have to click a few links some of the time.
@scottdemaree5852
Жыл бұрын
Hello Randy, I am a store owner in a control state. Here are my facts. We'll take Knob Creek 100 750 ml as an example. Googled msrp and from what i could tell it varied slightly from $21.99 to 28. Funny thing. My cost from the state on this bottle is $29.50. So right away we have problem. I know you'll say it varies from state to state, but the point is I believe you are misrepresenting independent stores and coloring them in a very bad light. You aren't the only one. Most whiskey youtuber's also do this. My question to you is this. What percent mark-up do you think is fair to charge the consumer? Thank you for mostly good information. I do enjoy when you talk about most things outside of the price gouging conversations. And i really want to try some of your Prideful Goat products, I hear they are really tasty.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
I like a store to keep their margin around 25%. Anything above 30% I think is too much. When we talk about MSRP I need to be more specific and state MSRP for your state. Different states have different tax structures, which becomes part of the "laid in costs" that affect the final product on the shelf. We have really low excise taxes on liquor in Texas where I live, so we have low MSRP. Washington state has really high taxes, so their MSRP pricing is way above Texas. The point I want to make is that you should not avoid a store for their prices simply because taxes are higher. You should avoid a store that is charging a secondary market price for a product simply because they can. We talked with Wyoming about bringing in The Prideful Goat, but they only wanted a couple of cases at a time, and it is cost prohibitive for us to try to sustain that. One day we will go after control states.
@Pecola1FromScratch
Жыл бұрын
Often, these lists are somewhat useless because they are geared toward only a connoisseur who might snob at low proof or low age and also is typically very subjective. This was WAY more useful, as it wasn't about specific bottles, but how to look out for bad buys. For instance, for a while Makers Mark has been on my list of bottles to get. I wanted a standard 46, but have heard 46 cask strength is great too. Using the tip from the video, the suggestion to just look at the basic math, they're selling the cask strength 46 for about 80% more than the regular, but the proof is only about 18% higher proof. (94 vs 111ish) The fact that they've slapped the "Limited" label on all their 46 Cask Strengths should be a giveaway already (tater rule could apply), but they are basically way overcharging for it. BUT if it's that much better, might be worth it, and it's understandable that for special production they might have to charge a bit extra since it costs more to divert resources to that, make different labels, etc. And if people do keep buying despite the higher price, maybe it will be considered more permanent, maybe they can produce it for less. (Though, hard to imagine them dropping the price because of higher demand) But I like that you really don't ever say "You'd be stupid to ever buy anything that is X Y OR Z" But rather you give these as guidelines to consider. Thanks for the insight and the video!
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that. I generally try not to say anything bad about any brand. I prefer people think for themselves than just do the same things I do.
@mbryant1136
Жыл бұрын
Great video. 1 thing I would like to mention is the retail stores. If you are lucky enough to live in a state that has liquor control laws the retails can not raise the price. there are many. Ohio is one, I live on the border in Kentucky and the local Party Source jacks the prices up and plays games on when they put certain bottles out (most of their friends get them) sad. I travel around alot for work and have filled my collection at very close to msrp because of these states. 1 recent example is a bottle of George T Stagg for $95 in New Hampshire. I also buy in Maine, I get Buffalo Trace there for $26 and my local Party Source charges $40 and plays a game with it.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
This subject comes up frequently. The only downsides are supply and state officials unethically reserving bottles. Oregon and Virginia both have investigations going on right now. It is great to get it at a good price, but if there is nothing you can do to increase your odds and supply is lower than in some other states that can be a downside too.
@Wicked03GT
Жыл бұрын
Curious...I have heard, Buffalo Trace sends their Juice to Virginia, and then the Bowman distillery runs it again, ages it and then bottles it. Calling it a Virginia whiskey. I dont know how true that is, but I would like to know if its true. because the John J Bowman Single barrel is my number one drinker right now.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
That is my understanding.
@MrTommyd66
3 жыл бұрын
It took me about 2 years to finally get my first bottle of Blanton’s because I refused to buy it from the store where it was $129. In those 2 years I drank a lot of really good stuff because I talked to the staff at the stores when I was stopping in. They had a lot of great people with a lot of really good recommendations. I love the whiskey community.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
That is what I am talking about!
@kosta2177
3 жыл бұрын
My local store (Virginia ABC. In Virginia every liquor store owned by state) have relatively dumb people who have no idea what they are selling. No matter how many times I asked questions they couldn’t give any reasonable information and their advice was always awful
@SeansGodwins
Жыл бұрын
I think my wife and I got lucky and stumbled upon Buffalo trace while on a nursing assignment in Lexington and our 2nd bourbon purchased was actually blantons and we were bummed that day it wasn’t Eagle rare. Got it for around $60 a bottle.
@Zach8murphy
3 жыл бұрын
#1 Weller 12 at secondary it’s an amazing 35 dollar bottle it is not a good 230 dollar bottle.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
That is fair!
@johnk7093
3 жыл бұрын
juice is a stupid word for whiskey...... fricken hipsters....................... was looking for a list, not what to watch out for.... bummer.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Juice is a term used by industry professionals in reference to sourced whiskey. The people you respect in the industry use the term. I don't talk shit about brands. I also don't tell people what should tastes good to them. If I tell you what not to do it isn't going to be me telling you to dislike what I dislike. It is going to be me educating you to think for yourself.
@markangle1347
Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel for the first time. I thought your video was reasonably informative and entertaining. However, I really appreciate your signoff and I wish more people out there took this approach to others' feelings. Well done.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@jmartinez4460
Жыл бұрын
I know this video is a year old but I only see the PG 15 for $200+ would like to try it but can’t spend that when I’ve never tried it.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
By the time the last batch came out, the 15 year was very popular. The distillery raised the price a bit, but our wholesaler bumped the price beyond our expectations, so the states that still have them that is the actual retail price.
@samdunbar7259
2 жыл бұрын
I feel ya! However; when I get allocated bourbons for the liquor store I’m told there isn’t enough to send everyone a case, so we get two bottles. Well, the single bottle price is higher than the case cost- plus there is a bottle charge! We pay pay almost retail for them to begin with. Our Blantons run 79.99… and we are not gouging, but it is over MSRP.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Please join the BRT community and say that in a post. People need to hear about this. facebook.com/groups/bourbonrealtalkcommunity
@peterstull1013
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, even non allocated stuff is going to cost a little more in my store than it does in a wal mart or total wine because of how much they buy! We price stuff at a fair markup that allows us to stay in business. The narrative here makes it seem like we have total control and are raising prices out of greed. I will listen to the podcast though to see what else is talked about. Big fan of the channel and your content though!
@6000hall
2 жыл бұрын
@@peterstull1013 And as long as you you aren't charging a 50% markup I'm willing to bet your customers are extremely appreciative of it!
@Spideryote
2 жыл бұрын
Here in NorCal I've never seen a Blantons under $150 or a Stagg Jr under $250 I would happily take JUST a 50% markup on these bottles. It's getting ridiculous out here
@tombryan1
Жыл бұрын
Didn't the Old Scout say it was distilled in Tennessee on the back of the bottle? It seems like that would have been a requirement.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
It is required and it was on the back label. The problem it had not become public knowledge that SAOS has switched who they were buying barrels from, and I had a friend pick it up for me, so no one checked until it was too late.
@RandallChase1
3 жыл бұрын
As a relatively new person in the serious Bourbon world, I appreciate this. By serious I mean looking into different distilleries, learning about the notes and more.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could be of service!
@danielmurphy4023
15 күн бұрын
Is Old Forester a good starting bourbon for someone just getting into it
@BourbonRealTalk
13 күн бұрын
Absolutely, All OF products are of the highest quality for their price.
@galacticon100
2 жыл бұрын
Just buy American single malts instead. They are readily available and in most ways, much more interesting then most bourbons.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
American single malts have a lot to offer.
@TAPnRACK_SEZ
2 жыл бұрын
All the tips are nice but so much hype and just building , if you want something , just have to buy it
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what this means but thanks for watching.
@josephthomas2226
Жыл бұрын
Great advice thanks. I have no products from buffalo trace because everyone marks them way up. What good is an MSRP if everyone ignores it?
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
There are still plenty of stores who do not mark up. You just have to do the research to find them, because they don't advertise they have the bottles. They hid them and use them to reward profitable behavior.
@josephthomas2226
Жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk so far I have not found those stores. My favorite store knows me, and while they mark bourbon up less than others (for example $40 for Buffalo Trace when they have it, whereas other local stores charge $60) they still mark it up. I look forward to finding one of those stores in my area.
@KLeeMr
2 жыл бұрын
This dude is thinker than he drunks he is. Been there!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
We film 4-6 episodes per filming session. If it is a later one, and all the ones before included drinking, it can pile up on you.
@KLeeMr
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk Wish I was there to share with you. Love the content. Love my aroma kit too. Keep on keepin’ on, brother.
@StillLivinginthewoods
3 жыл бұрын
I recently found a liquor store that marks up the hard to find bottles, but only about $10-20. It keeps the selection looking good because people are reluctant to go in there and buy a case at a time, but you can get something you might not be able to find elsewhere without paying anything close to secondary prices. I'm okay with that.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I am OK with this practice.
@ugapug5150
3 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@MaxViolence-fz8vv
Жыл бұрын
i think after watching this video I m not really Whisky enthusiast as 2 my fav brands are Buffalo Trace and Bulleit lol
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
I recorded this a while ago, but I am pretty sure I didn't say anything that would preclude you from being a whiskey enthusiasts if you like those two brands since I like them both too.
@MaxViolence-fz8vv
Жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk for me was more about a price range :) really like your channel, keep up good work
@ddunvideo
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the insight
@phillipjgustafson9792
2 жыл бұрын
In Oregon all liquor goes through the state run liquor control commission they set the price the retailer does not get to he is allowed to make so much per bottle and that's all he gets and again The liquor control commission sets the price that's a straight run agency 🤠
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I have a lot of viewers who like their state run stores because prices are good, but a lot that hate it because the selection is not always the best. I guess you win some and lose some.
@phillipjgustafson9792
2 жыл бұрын
In Oregon you have no choice wish you did but that's the way they do it you are in The liquor control commission is got a choke hold on that it's unfortunate 🤠😎
@cowdogg3085
Жыл бұрын
I have seen this today!! I found a bottle of Buffalo trace at $32.98. MRSP, I believe, but online, I saw it going for $50 + . Yes, I bought the bottle, lol it's almost impossible to find where I live.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
It is a solid pour, but really hard to find in some areas.
@cowdogg3085
Жыл бұрын
@Bourbon Real Talk yes it's very hard to find here, lol . I only found it because it was in the middle of the day, and I saw the delivery truck pull away as I came down the street! Lol, I didn't even go in to look for it, I went in to see if they had any Knob Creek. They had it behind the counter!
@jstewardjr
3 жыл бұрын
We lost our son so suicide. Thanks for supporting suicide prevention!!!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry for your loss! I know my parents struggle with it. Love you brother!
@billslone242
3 жыл бұрын
That is heartbreaking I am so sorry to hear about your son.
@10use
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the story of your brother. Real talk indeed. Your a good person Randy...We need more of you in this world. Cheers to you and your family and wish you continued wisdom and gratitude.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! If we all shift our focus to love instead of division the world will be a better place. Cheers!
@lordgarth1
3 жыл бұрын
A couple of FB groups used to be an amazing and safe way to get some good stuff.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I miss those days.
@jasonczfan8658
2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to pay over MSRP for any of them. I've been fortunate to find a few allocated things here and there and pay the normal price. Earlier this year I found Weller Special Reserve at BevMo for $26 and was happy with that. I was more excited about finding it than I was the actual taste of it. it was good but I have no idea why someone would pay the secondary price for it. I'm so glad I found your channel as I'm learning a lot.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the find. The thrill of the hunt is part of the fun. Just don't let the hype negatively impact the experience. The margin of level of enjoyability between well made bourbons is small, and does not justify the hype differences between brands. I look at hype not as an indicator of enjoyability, but as a tool to increase the quality of the interactions I have with people I am sharing a pour with. If they have wanted it but can't find it, the connection we feel when we drink it together is better. That is why I seek overhyped bottles. Thank you for watching the channel.
@JoeSmith-vi2ln
2 жыл бұрын
15:08 not age stated means at least 4 years old? Really ? I think maybe you mean BIB?
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Straight means 2+ years. BiB means 4+, but there is a separate law in the US than anything label as "Whiskey" that does not have an age must be 4+ years. So if a whiskey is produced in the US of any type, and it does not have an age statement, it means it must be 4+ years old. I also believed as you do...until I embarrassed the shit out of myself at a party infront of a bunch of people when I argued with Robert Likarish from Ironroot. We made a bet, I lost, and had to give him a 2 oz sample of EHTBP.
@JoeSmith-vi2ln
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk wow, interesting, and great factoid that probably a lot of people don’t know... so don’t feel too bad! Thanks for the helpful response!
@bkjackso
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we start flagging (and flogging) stores that price gouge or significantly overprice? Or am I being too harsh?
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I think they are their own worst enemy. I think it will all work itself out in the end. When inventory levels go up in the next 4-6 years those stores will not have the droves of buyers that the MSRP stores do...and then they will regret it.
@adamseaman7306
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome talk Randy. Couldn’t agree more with all of the reasons. Cheers!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@stevegideon5419
3 жыл бұрын
Check spelling on distillers in the opening.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Good eye Steve.The producer did that and I didn't catch it until it was published. You can not edit a video after you publish so I was stuck with it.
@stevegideon5419
3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk my dad was a small town commercial printer and I used to proof read for him, so that sort of thing jumps out at me. I should have mentioned what great content the video held, though!
@MISTAJZA
2 жыл бұрын
Spot-on advice about NDP’s, but personally, I don’t have patience for them when there are so many more whiskies on the shelf that I like better with tastes and prices I like better.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
That is fair.
@clydekimsey7503
Жыл бұрын
A great ethically thought out video 😊
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@MISTAJZA
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best videos on whiskytube, no one else has done anything like this, I wish I had watched this when I first started on whiskey.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! That is high praise! Thank you for watching.
@carltaylor5604
Жыл бұрын
What is in that Burger King bottle?
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
That is what is known as a "tater stiker". Whiskey clubs who partner with retail stores to release single barrels to their members often make an aftermarket sticker to commemorate the bottle. The first time we picked a 1792 we got to a us a "whiskey thief" to get our barrel samples out. We turned that into a sticker where Hamburgerler was using a whiskey thief. After that we decided to make all our 1792 single barrels fast food themed. That one we called Bourbon King instead of bourbon king. We give the stickers away for free and most of the people put them on the back of the bottle.
@Bergkampgunner
2 жыл бұрын
Love the list videos. I have been building a whiskey collection for about five years but I still learn something new from many of your videos. My state is a control state with ABC stores so most of what I see is MSRP. My general rule of thumb outside of that is I’m normally willing to go about 10% above MSRP and I’d go another 10% if it’s a barrel pick to support the store (or whoever picked the barrel). There are exceptions to every rule (if I saw a GTS for $150 I would NOT turn it down) but that’s typically what I expect to pay when I walk in a store and walk out with nothing when I see gouging. I definitely have tater impulses tho. Put a good sticker on the back and I’ll make poor decisions 9 times out of 10 😂
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good strategy. SSW does a lot of single barrels, and most of them have a sticker. I guess because I have no eye for design I have never felt the urge to buy a bottle because of a sticker. Thanks for supporting the channel.
@Preparedglueguy1
Жыл бұрын
Great information, thank you!
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Tanya10312000
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely don not get the Botox! But Lindsey has your back on the pressed powder. Nobody wants to be oily on camera…
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I still make jokes about the kabuki brush requiring violence 😂
@tada6631
3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you on all of these but 1 comment, it is hard to avoid stores that charge above retail where I am. They all do it. You will have to buy from grocery stores here to avoid a mark-up but the grocery stores do not get the up level versions nor brands. Great video.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
It is OK to pay above MSRP if you are experienced and know the premium you are paying, and also aware of what the secondary shipped to your house price is. I bought a bottle last week from a price gouge retailer at 8X MSRP, but 40% of secondary...so it was a relative deal.
@smac2047
Жыл бұрын
I agree ALL the stores in my area are above MSRP.
@chrisanderson2356
Жыл бұрын
7:17 is it just me or does the ABV and the proof not match on the Prideful Goat Label? Isn’t 67.5% ABV 135 proof? Not 115?
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
The label is just hard to see in the video. The Proof of the bottle is 115.
@williampcoxjr198
Жыл бұрын
More "than", not "then".
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Unfortunately we can not make edits after we publish.
@rstar88105
Жыл бұрын
At $10 a year rule of thumb is spot on. I saw a single barrel in Michigan of Nulu bourbon finished in a honey barrels for $200. It was like five year MGP bourbon.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
With inflation I have raised it to 12-13 max, but 5 year MGP should not be 200.
@whodey59
3 жыл бұрын
#6. Don't buy those over priced finished whiskeys....like that Angel's Envy sitting on the shelf behind you.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit bro!!! Sick burn!!! I bet you slay at the comedy club. My advice is for newer people who don't necessarily know what they are buying. I buy all the over priced/hyped stuff I can find so the thousands of people I have over to my house from the whiskey club I admin Someone Say Whiskey can try it for themselves and decide if it is worth it for them. I have the money to burn. I don't want a new person getting into whiskey to feel taken advantage of and lose interest.
@whodey59
3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk oh...."newer people". Good to know. I just thought you were another "rules for thee, not for me" guy.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
@@whodey59 Also, My rule was about a bottle that is $35 being sold for $115 because it was finished. You can not run the calculation on AE because they are ALL finished. The one you see was a single barrel from out of town that came recommended from a friend. My wife loves AE rye so I bought it for her. I didn't say don't buy finished whiskey that cost more than a cheap shelf bottle. I said don't buy special releases of finished whiskey that the addition cost above the regular product is not justified by the finishing process...which as I mentioned does not apply to AE.
@BadWeatherfreak
3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk what type of work you do to have money to burn? If you don't mind me asking.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
@@BadWeatherfreak I spend about 70% of my time admining the Facebook based whiskey club Someone Say Whiskey and producing the podcast. This causes me to meet new customers for my real estate business and find investment opportunities and investors for my funding company. So I am a residential real estate agent and I also run a fund that is kind of like hard money lending. Most Realtors spend about 70% of their time looking for new clients. I just invest that time in whiskey and find just as many new customers by accident. I also used to process BRT Merch orders, but that is Lindsey's job now.
@crf-ui5id
Жыл бұрын
So don't pay secondary for Pappy 15 until I've tried it first 😅gotcha guess I'll probably never get to taste it then .😂
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! It's always a good idea to try before you buy, especially when it comes to pricey bottles. Have you tried any other highly sought-after bourbons that you would recommend?
@whiskeygrunt772
3 жыл бұрын
Avoid over priced high age statements - Looking at you Orphan Barrel Avoid over priced finished bourbons - Looking at you Jefferson's Avoid overpriced barrel proof bourbons - Looking at you Angel's Envy
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
You odiously get the concepts. Thank you for watching.
@gregs7375
3 жыл бұрын
If you’re new, never pay more than $40-$60 + tax for a bottle. Learn which distilleries make products and go one at a time through each distillery. If you like a distillery’s flavor profile, try a more expensive product from them. If not, save your money. NDPs can be good but first know who produced it before you buy it.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome advice. I have a beginners guide video coming out in two weeks that covers a lot of what you said!
@TeenDaad
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! One celebrity line I think is actually great would be Heavens Door in collab with Bob Dylan. For about $70, they’ve got some cool releases that taste great
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Heaven's Door, Belfour Spirits, and Brother's Bond are all pretty legit.
@antares8281
2 жыл бұрын
RE: Willets Pot Still and labeling. I've had it. It's OK. I didn't buy it because of the bottle shape, but I bought it because I love Irish whiskey made in a pot still. It has a richness I enjoy and I enjoy bourbon, so I wondered what this one would taste like. The thing is when I read the label, a few years ago, it never specifically stated the juice in the bottle was distilled in a single pot still. It raves about the virtues of such a whiskey, but it doesn't take the plunge and say "This is whiskey is made in a pot still" or "You will enjoy the rich flavor of this pot still whiskey." Maybe it is, and the problem is that the person writing the information on the label isn't real good at what he or she does. Or maybe that person is a real good writer leading the consumer to draw a false conclusion. It doesn't taste like I had expected. And since it's been years, maybe the label has changed. Label reading is as important as you say it is, but then so is label writing.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
It is widely accepted that KBD (maker's of WPS) use pot still distillation to make WPS. I think sometimes marketing people are tasted to write a label, but don't understand the nuance that enthusiasts do. Cheers!
@TheReal_DeanD
2 жыл бұрын
A lot of great nuggets here. The gimmick/mimic bottles I definitely stay away from. Point 10 is very true. I know of some guys that got caught up in the hunt and fomo that have bottles they never tasted. They got their prize but it will just sit on the shelf.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
A full bottle has no memories in it!
@scotttipson5742
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! So are you saying to avoid Smoke wagon, or it’s okay because they define Indiana as star of distillery? Thanks for you time!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Never avoid smoke wagon. They disclose! I don't want people to buy whiskey companies who are trying to trick the public into believing they are something they are not.
@866Racing
3 жыл бұрын
Also bought the 13 year SAOS without realizing the change as was very disappointed opening it. Glad I got it at MSRP but wish I would have passed
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
At msrp I would have been happy, but I bought it from a friend at the secondary value if it had been MGP.
@psilocybemusashi
3 жыл бұрын
i don't think the secondary market for whiskey is a black market. sure it is illegal but it is bourbon collectors and enthusiasts who participate. it isn't racketeering
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Legally a black market, but functionally I see your point. Cheers!
@timfoppiano3990
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sincerely for your thoughts and expertise. A real Bourbon rookie here but enjoying the journey so far! Thanks for the Love!
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! If you have not done so already, I recommend you join facebook.com/groups/bourbonrealtalkcommunity.
@Daniel_Scott89
3 жыл бұрын
Okay. I’ve been watching your videos and you definitely have to be related to Dave Rubin. Look him up lol
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Not familiar. He is a good looking dude, so I am flattered. Cheers!
@fjwrt
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@JohnSmith-vt5ry
Жыл бұрын
I just starting watching your channel. I am new to whiskey / bourbon. 57 years old and entry level. I like WT101, BT, and EW Bottled and Bonded for entry level. I was introduced to Angels Envy Rye (Green) and liked it and messed up and bought the Red one and I don’t like. I will use it fir mixing. The rye (green) label is $100 which I cannot afford. Is there another similar in taste that you could recommend?
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the whiskey/bourbon world! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel. If you liked Angel's Envy Rye, you might want to try WhistlePig 10 Year Rye or Sazerac Rye. Both are great ryes with similar tasting notes. Let me know if you have any other questions!
@JohnSmith-vt5ry
Жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk WhistlePig 10 Year “Small Batch”?
@victorsoliz6708
3 жыл бұрын
My name is Victor I like any think smooth I been buying whiskey specially smoothest my question is what do you think about Flavian co please answer my question
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to say I have never heard of Flavian co.
@zacd7094
3 жыл бұрын
I just bought eh Taylor small batch and paid 100, I knew it was over price but I also drove two miles from home to get it.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how much those are on secondary, but I do know they are great whiskey. Enjoy!
@kianfarsadzadeh8104
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thoughts on Sam Houston and Calumet? Both are great daily drinkers in my opinion!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed them. I have not owned one but have had the chance to try them at bottle shares. I think the quality price ratio might be off for me to invest in a bottle, but they are solid pours based on memory.
@JACs_Stories_and_Whiskey
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this was a really good insight video. I guess what I dont like about the secondary market is when it comes to select releases. I live in an area where we just don't get a select releases; for instance the newly released Wild Turkey Masters Keep One. Relased about $180, but I won't be able to see it until it hits the secondary market at twice the cost. There are some other really good less expensive whiskey available to me though.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I always find it interesting how rare bottles get distributed in such an uneven manor. Luckily in Dallas we get a little of everything, but there are so many people hunting that I have given up on finding anything great in the wild.
@mttech1995
3 жыл бұрын
Great point on #9!!! I got burned bad on Instagram regarding this unregulated secondary market. Learned a hard lesson. basically, if it's not on a shelf of a retailer, not every buying it...period! Good Stuff Randy!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you agree! Thank you for watching!
@cjmixer99
3 жыл бұрын
Great tips here! Agree about avoiding to pay secondary on bottles you’ve never tasted. I will admit that I experienced FOMO and purchased some expensive bottles without sampling… my biggest regret there wasn’t that I didn’t enjoy it, but that it wasn’t NEARLY worth the price I paid. Almost all bottles on secondary aren’t worth the price tag, especially with expensive bottles mostly coming from Buffalo Trace. I agree it’s all about community, and I love sharing samples with local enthusiasts. I’ve been able to try some samples and decide whether or not I want to purchase them, and I’ve also been introduced to some whiskey I’ve never heard of and completely fell in love. Hopefully things level out and everyone gets to enjoy all the great whiskey, at more reasonable costs. Thanks for the great video! Cheers
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
It will happen eventually! In the mean time the community will provide opportunities for everyone to try something interesting that the taster could not find on their own.
@Subourbon
Жыл бұрын
pour a little bit of rum in a glass, then top it off with bourbon.. BOOM rum finished boubon.
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
Mixing rum and bourbon can indeed create interesting flavor combinations, and some distilleries even produce whiskey finished in rum casks. It's a fun way to experiment with different taste profiles and add depth to your whiskey experience. However, it's important to note that "rum finished bourbon" typically refers to a specific maturation process where bourbon spends some time aging in ex-rum barrels, rather than simply mixing the two spirits together. Have you tried any bourbon finished in rum casks or experimented with other types of whiskey finishes? I'm curious to know your thoughts on different flavor combinations and maturation techniques. Cheers!
@gregg9448
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve recently found your channel and truly enjoy watching your videos. I have very many hard to find bottles and like you, I open them all because I just need to know how it tastes. Don’t laugh but my favorite is still Jack Daniel’s no. 7. Last year I visited Cascade Hollow and Big Machine Distillery as I was driving to visit my parents in St. Louis. I have stage IV cancer I got from environmental exposures in Afghanistan and in Jan. 2016 was told I have 6 months to live. I’m still here and still doing IV treatments monthly and there is one bottle I need to find before I die. Jack Daniel’s 10 year. I found one locally here in Port Charlotte and he is gouging and asking $400, which I refuse to pay. I would like to ask you, if I were to hit the road in search of a Jack 10 this year should I go in October or November?
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
TBH I didn't get one, so I am unsure. The original press release said it would be an annual release, and it came out one year ago in Sept 2021. It stands to reason that it will hit the shelves again soon. Any stores that still have a 2021 bottle likely have not sold it because it is overpriced. I looked online and there are a number of online retailers selling around $250. If you want to find one in the wild for MSRP I would recommend you join facebook.com/groups/bourbonrealtalkcommunity and post in there. Ask the members who got a bottle. When you find them ask how common it was in their market. This will help you figure out which areas got good distribution. Then ask people to let you know when it pops back into their market, and you will know where to hunt. Hope this helps.
@gregg9448
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk Thanks for the reply and information. I appreciate it. I’ll try what you suggested. Keep up the great work and I look forward to more amazing videos.
@mikedubs9940
2 жыл бұрын
want to talk capitalism. We can talk that. But please man you’re collector not really a bourbon enthusiast
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is directed at the price gouge store.
@lordgarth1
3 жыл бұрын
I’m cool with stores that sell for a little bit over msrp but now i’m actively avoiding the few places around here that have crazy prices and I generally still get allocated just fine at or near msrp for most bourbons.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. There is a point somewhere between MSRP and Secondary value that I think it crosses over the line of good capitalism and move into the category of greed. I think stores charging over secondary should loose their license.
@mikedubs9940
2 жыл бұрын
I tasted so many verances that have that great taste. Just because you have a great bourbon doesn’t mean that you speak about great Berman
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
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@cooganalaska3249
3 жыл бұрын
This guy is obviously drunk. But hey, given the topic and setting it makes perfect sense.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I had been drinking, but I don't think I was drunk. What makes you think I was drunk? Was it my cadence? I recorded 4 episodes that day and had roughly 2 hours worth of dialog memorized. Maybe I was thinking too much? Appreciate the feedback.
@mikedubs9940
2 жыл бұрын
699 for Weller full proof are you kidding me bro you make it cost that much
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
There is a price gouge store that charges that much in my area. Your statement "you make it cost that much" makes it seem that I am involved in it being at that price, and I am not.
@Chief21075
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved your closing. It's upbeat and encouraging! Most excellent information.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@nickkunich3912
2 жыл бұрын
I live in the common wealth of Pennsylvania we have state stores not bad prices
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, some of my content doesn't apply very well in control states.
@joehixson5340
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thankfully since I have gotten more into whiskey I have been able to find hard to find bottles from low to mid MSRP because of videos like this and research. I admit I have been guilty of a couple of these things, thankfully the whiskey was really good. Thanks again for the info!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I am guilty of all these things, I just want people to know what they are getting into so they don't feel taken advantage of. Cheers!
@mrguy3217
2 жыл бұрын
Just bought Hirsch single barrel and saw your video here. It’s a Willits mash bill. But don’t know how to tell which Willits to know if it’s just a marked up version.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I am just now learning of these new Willet juice bottles. The ones used when the name was first relaunched were not good.
@mrguy3217
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk Thanks! Like your videos and will keep watching to learn. Saw a few negative reviews on the brand after I got home. But no rush to crack it open and find out. Buying more than I can drink at this point.
@sourdoughdougyukon
3 жыл бұрын
Great info Randy ! I've been getting into Whiskey for a little more than a year now ! Really appreciate the knowledgeable advice! Thanks !
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@kevinbales3731
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk, Randy. I've not seen anyone else provide this whiskey education on bourbon podcasts.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I try, but I can not take too much credit since I learned all this stuff from others who also serve the community. Cheers!
@Jay_Aitch82
3 жыл бұрын
Really informative. Hate to admit it but I’m guilty of several these rules. #FOMOisREAL
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I break all these rules, but I know I am being taken advantage of and I am OK with it. I don't want people to get discouraged if they are unaware.
@mackal
3 жыл бұрын
Black market makes more sense though since it is illegal (at least in the US)
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
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@badgerjeff6081
3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Love your new "production set" and have been enjoying my tiny glencairn! Be well!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Cheers!
@bobleal8277
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of details to give thought to but very informative. Thanks Randy.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@johncashion8428
3 жыл бұрын
Great review and advice You probably just saved a bunch of people money Like stated on here already, too bad you didn’t name brands.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
There are new brands popping up all the time, so the video is supposed to teach people how to evaluate for themselves.
@StillLivinginthewoods
3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk Recomend a good whiskey to a man and he drinks well for a little while, teach a man how to pick a good whiskey and he drinks well for life. Ha!
@cigarsnsuch1933
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like you have some “kabuki” on your glass and possibly IN your glass there my friend! Hahaha🤣🤣
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
😅
@cigarsnsuch1933
3 жыл бұрын
💯🙋🏽♂️
@OrdinaryDude67
3 жыл бұрын
Red flag #1; can’t spell “distiller”.
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
That was the producer. He is a videographer not a whiskey expert. I didn't catch it until it was published and had a couple thousand views. You can not edit a published video without deleting it, so it got left in. Sorry.
@hablandodewhisky
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I taste many Bourbons and American Whiskey in my youtube channel and considering I am in Europe this info is really really usefull since prices are higher here for US whisky, all the best!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it.
@hablandodewhisky
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk Absolutely, I live in Spain and bourbon culture is not very extended, I do my best to try to change that :) I love Bourbon but I am more a Rye lover..
@thomasbelk3834
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it! Is this your first time viewing the channel?
@thomasbelk3834
Жыл бұрын
I have watched many of your video and also a subscriber. I am also a patreon member of you web site and buy the way the coasters I purchased are really nice. Thank you
@BourbonRealTalk
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasbelk3834 Hey, that's awesome! Thanks so much for your support and becoming a Patron. Let me know if there's any content ideas you have that you'd like us to cover. Glad you like the coasters!
@mikedubs9940
2 жыл бұрын
Then we should not even acknowledge those labels that you must’ve had made. You’re a great one. Excellent review though you’re my new favorite
@mikedubs9940
2 жыл бұрын
And I am so sorry for your loss
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@LeatherDaddy97
3 жыл бұрын
When you say "randy sullivan here" half the time i just brace for an infomercial for kaboom or something
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
It is so engrained in my mind now I don't think I could change it.
@LeatherDaddy97
3 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk well then its good that theres no need to
@Chris-oo8ue
3 жыл бұрын
5:51 this advice is not true in the state of PA. thought to at least * comment
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
I don't live in a control state, so I am sorry if I ever make a recommendation that does not apply to you.
@Usonian7
6 ай бұрын
That's a feisty headline lol. Love the video
@BourbonRealTalk
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! We aim to come up with attention grabbing titles.
@randyd.7076
3 жыл бұрын
Great information! I’ve become a bourbon drinker and my single malt has taken a back seat, your videos have helped me to decide what I want to try and how much to spend. Now I can venture out with a very basic knowledge of bourbon and be comfortable with my purchases. Again thanks!
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Cheers!
@rusticmade
2 жыл бұрын
How do I get my hands on one of those Prideful Goat 🐐 🤔? I am super interested in try that one.
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
If you follow them on FB or IG they announce when it is being released in various states. We have a release happening in the next two weeks in the following states: California, Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi, Tennessee, Colorado and Illinois
@rusticmade
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk I'm in Florida, son is in Cali, doubled my chances 🤣. Thank you sir
@boruchfalk1242
2 жыл бұрын
thanx for a great podcast i listen whenever i drive.im curious as to your take on all the small batch, very small batch etc. from jeffersons which i believe is an ndp. thanx again!
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
It it technically contract distilled. They have hired another producer to make their whiskey to their specifications. One step above an NDP. I like it quite a bit. They don't have economies of scale, so if you compare it to major distilleries like HH, MM, BT, JB, WT you will feel like you are paying a premium. This isn't because Jefferson's is raking in the dough, their production costs are literally higher. If you like variety like I do you don't mind the small premium. Have you joined our member community? facebook.com/groups/bourbonrealtalkcommunity/
@boruchfalk1242
2 жыл бұрын
@@BourbonRealTalk i really want to. but long story short it wouldnt be smart for me to have facebook. ill explain if we ever meet which would an honor
@BourbonRealTalk
2 жыл бұрын
@@boruchfalk1242 Create a burner account. I have LEOs, Judges, a world renowned heart surgeon, people with crazy exes that just make up a name, create an account, and only use it for groups. No personal posts or photos. Just groups. Just an idea. If you decide to do that I will approve your account.
@perfectman3077
3 жыл бұрын
Are there any Old Fitz mimic bottles??
@BourbonRealTalk
3 жыл бұрын
Based on flavor I would say no. The younger old Fitz have a nutty component to them that reminds me of some beam products, but the fruit is different. The higher age statement old Fitz bottles seem to develop more of the orange zest that seems to be the hallmark of an higher aged wheated bourbon. So I really don't know what else would taste like that, but the point of alternatives for me isn't to perfectly mimic the taste as much as try to create as enjoyable of an experience. With that in mind any wheated bourbon could do the trick. Larceny would be a great option since it is available, inexpensive, and it is the same whiskey. Just a different proof and age. Hope that helps.
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