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@rottenbear1507
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Masako I have a question
@jackdoesgaming6921
4 жыл бұрын
ACULLY ADD PICTURES
@Tarnthewarrior
4 жыл бұрын
"As we know, Dragon Ball isn't really perfect" Mr. Perfect Cell.
@everettomailia8668
4 жыл бұрын
Will Cooler become canonical now
@BlackSheepEntertainment9009
4 жыл бұрын
Great video Masako as always but I had another what if story idea for ya. "What if Android 18 married Goku instead of Krillin"
@MANOFGOD9000
4 жыл бұрын
Real talk: The moment we found out Goku never kissed before...after being married...and fathering two children. The logistics make no sense.
@Drums_of_Liberation
4 жыл бұрын
Impregnating a woman doesn't require kissing last I checked. And you know darn well that the moment Goku saw the buffet any hope of Chi Chi getting a kiss was lost.
@Jeffersonia120
4 жыл бұрын
Super forgot that he and chi chi have in fact kissed before in Z, after Goku wakes up from his heart virus coma.
@Drums_of_Liberation
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jeffersonia120 no they didn't. Last I checked Goku spun her around and then yeeted her like Alinity's cat by accident.
@KayLoo202
4 жыл бұрын
I hear that was a really awful translation error
@giovannibini6809
4 жыл бұрын
It's just a poorly written joke: when Goku said he's never done that he means passing a chewed senzu mouth to mouth. Vegeta than thinks Goku never kissed his wife.
@GTdba
4 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, my favorite moment in Super: “UAAAAAIforgotmytractorAAAA-“
@alastairtivy-harris8129
4 жыл бұрын
I am SO happy someone mentioned that! That moment made me laugh so hard.
@Unremarkable6969
4 жыл бұрын
The best part of resurrection F
@benmaloney4469
4 жыл бұрын
@@Unremarkable6969 I came here to say that too
@boonraksaboonparn4988
4 жыл бұрын
Dragonball super is not perfect because it lack the certain perfect being
@MasakoX
4 жыл бұрын
See what you did there~
@monarosberg6036
4 жыл бұрын
Me
@cjstrikercbr3013
4 жыл бұрын
LOL I like that one! 👍😉
@boonraksaboonparn4988
4 жыл бұрын
MasakoX hehe thanks! But I mean, really if a certain emperor can return “twice” why can’t my favourite bug man? (and I normally hate bugs)
@sammydray5919
4 жыл бұрын
@@boonraksaboonparn4988 Too Many Spots
@Alex_FRD
4 жыл бұрын
Goten and Trunks still being kids in order to sell more stupid toys.
@theamazingmaymay123
4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, they’ll plob be more popular if they were teens.
@gokublackdevilartemisunive1175
4 жыл бұрын
Uh no it’s a bit after the buu ark this isn’t the end of z
@Eurobunny_
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. The story fricking ignores them anyway
@Endrance88
4 жыл бұрын
Hot take, what toys? All the new figurines of Dragon ball Super seem to include only the powerful people.
@DatDude0925
4 жыл бұрын
Pan is alive. They are at least 13 and 14.
@Shootingfoul
4 жыл бұрын
Even if they wanted to remove Buu from the tournament, there's no point in putting his weight back on.
@MasakoX
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was just...how?
@RogueFox2185
4 жыл бұрын
What would have been cool is that if he could have a Super Buu transformation, one where he isn’t completely evil but it does have a limited use until he masters using it.
@jackskatter.3888
4 жыл бұрын
Rogue Fox like xenoverse purification
@ermacmacro7136
4 жыл бұрын
@@MasakoX It's implied that Buu's thin form was sort of like All Might and his muscle form. He actively needed to focus on it in order to actually hold it together. Once Buy passed out, his body just reset itself
@rdphoenix07
4 жыл бұрын
@@jackskatter.3888 The Majin's Purification form sucked! They would have been better off making the Majin character look more like similar to Super Buu instead of a carbon copy of Kid Buu. And have better movement. Seriously, am I the only one who hated how the movements worked for the Purification form?
@HyperSonicX
4 жыл бұрын
At number 10, as soon as you said 'Captain Ginyu' an ad for milk started playing. That's the most weirdly appropriate ad I've ever had on this site.
@bradcarver8127
4 жыл бұрын
Got Ginyu?
@funkmantim2661
3 жыл бұрын
Need some Jiece with that Ginyu?
@Normandy1998
4 жыл бұрын
Masakox: the ending of goku black arc won't be here Me: *gasp* What a twist
@MasakoX
4 жыл бұрын
We've exhausted that topic. The only thing we could do is to get Eric Vale on the podcast and ask his thoughts.
@showdownlegends7733
4 жыл бұрын
A twist indeed
@Normandy1998
4 жыл бұрын
@@MasakoX that be an interesting video
@pranavdatar9170
4 жыл бұрын
@@MasakoX do it it will be great
@434444334
4 жыл бұрын
After trunks beat the villian IT SHOULD HAVE ENDED
@tomcurl8034
4 жыл бұрын
I hate how all the lady characters except android 18 just give up fighting and become a housewife they even got rid of launch all together
@MikeAruba69
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that totally sucks! I was so disappointed when Videl didn't even try to stop Barry Kahn from kidnapping Pan. She just stood there, she didn't even try fighting him too!
@TyphlosionGirl
2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeAruba69 They totally did Videl dirty 😞
@antilivvy7373
2 жыл бұрын
@@TyphlosionGirl second she lost in the tournament I sware they gave up on her
@RacingSnails64
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's reasonable for Videl to want to become a mom, I think that's sweet of her, but for her to completely drop ALL fighting in the process feels inaccurate for her. She should definitely still train on the side, especially with Gohan to keep him from going soft. They could keep each other in shape. Wouldn't that be sweet? (I do believe Superhero has taken steps to rectify this aspect of Videl!)
@stephenarts1422
4 жыл бұрын
They should've made Jiren's backstory like Zuko Alone: explain it in various scenes throughout the episode.
@DBK_Productions
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly that would have been so much better
@ianr.navahuber2195
4 жыл бұрын
So like How Re: Zero showed Wilheim Van Astrea's backstory mid battle with the White Whale?
@stephenarts1422
4 жыл бұрын
@@ianr.navahuber2195 I don't know which media you're talking about
@ianr.navahuber2195
4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenarts1422 it's an anime. if you only want to check that anime (re zero )'s specific episode to see how they showed the backstoy, is episode 20
@T-REX-KNIGHT
4 жыл бұрын
*HONOR INTENSIFIES*
@danielmalik1273
4 жыл бұрын
I felt Videl should have played in the Baseball episode on Champa team so she can be opposite team of Gohan , it can be recall on Baseball game back on they had back in Highschool in Z 😓
@calebdonaldson8770
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, that would've been a really sweet callback to Z. They could've made her a badass player! Man, missed potential. :(
@spideyboigamingyt6571
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@RacingSnails64
2 жыл бұрын
Would've loved that!
@Wynters01
4 жыл бұрын
I still think setting Jiran up as an unquestioned, albeit jerky hero would have been the best route. Make it where you actually cheer for him and get conflicted on whether or not you want Goku and team to win. If done right, the story would be way richer for it, since we would avoid generic baddy for Goku to take on. Make the fight about character motivations, highlighting how the two are different and alike, while showing the flaws of Goku would make for a compelling story. Jiran is a character who says he rejects people in favor of strength, yet time and again he actively protects his team and trusts them enough to sit on the sidelines and let them handle the situation, acting only when things are at their worst. Goku is a character who says he trusts his friends, but he actively pursues power and forgets friends even exists for years at a time pursuit of that power. The moment the ToP began, he walked away, leaving his friends to fend for themselves while he searched the most fun challenges he could find. Exploring that character dynamic and commiting to the idea that Goku was the actual bad guy of the arc when he set the ToP into motion would have made the entire arc shine, especially when it had to be Jiran who stepped in as the multiverse's only hope to save everyone. If they had set Jiran up to be the righteous hero to Goku's selfish nature it would have been so much richer as they struggled against up, leaving us conflicted on who to cheer for as Goku continued to up his game against Jiran until he achieved Mastered UI.
@SmartAlec1
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@RacingSnails64
2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Good ideas.
@HerculePyro
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the backstory where Jiren hates DRAGONS.
@wolftwinbladed7921
4 жыл бұрын
When I scraped my knee at the age of 4, it was DRAGONS When Veronica dumped me before the 6th grade dance, it was DRAGONS When I got denied my top choice university it was DRAGONS When my wife left me and took the kids, she left me for a DRAGON!
@batmanrules256
4 жыл бұрын
Videl from Z would have ripped the pictures up and punched him in the face for even insinuating Gohan would cheat on her.
@Hawkcam1996
4 жыл бұрын
“The moment when Goku forgot stuff” You mean like when he forgot what kissing was, despite clearly knowing what it was when he offered a kiss from Bulma to Old Kai? He obviously knew what kissing was since he knew Bulma would be mad at him for making the offer even though she doesn’t get mad at him for offering her to give money to people(like the androids in the ToP). I get that the scene he forgot what a kiss is was just for comedic purposes, but it wasn’t even funny. It was just...weird.
@sliceofpie770
4 жыл бұрын
That is a fantastic point! I totally forgot about that part in Z and I always found him not knowing what a "kiss" was pretty stupid when he has 2 kids with freaking chi- chi of all people...
@jman72898
4 жыл бұрын
Personally nothing beats Buu falling asleep. Ticks me off every damn time.
@SomeRandomJackAss
4 жыл бұрын
Which time?
@thewittywhygaming6487
4 жыл бұрын
TIME CHAMBER!!!
@Clasydinohunter
4 жыл бұрын
What if Jiren's backstory in the anime was some sort of cover or false truth and the 'evildoer' was actually him unable to controll his power and therefore strived to control and better himself so it would never happen again.
@ShadowKamehameha32
4 жыл бұрын
That would've been a good twist
@heavydonkeykong5190
4 жыл бұрын
That would have been pretty neat.
@DrexandCTHproduction
4 жыл бұрын
As boring as Jiren is, his origin story certainly doesn’t help. I feel the dub did him a lot better. It does help that he is voiced by Dio himself, but he at the very least emoted more there.
@RotaAbyssian
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i don't mind his origin in the dub (the only version I watched). It IS fairly basic, but it is a flawed radical over compensation against personal weakness and co-dependence to an unhealthy degree.
@DrexandCTHproduction
4 жыл бұрын
Rota Abyssian I agree and I think if that had been explored more that his backstory didn’t really matter and the point of overcompensating for weakness with absolute strength is actually a character weakness and makes you less of a use to the people who depend on you, then maybe it also could have been a turning point for goku as well. This could show him that his endless craving of power and strong opponents has the potential to turn him into someone like Jiren and even play into Roshi’s old lesson of “someone will always be stronger than you and that is ok”
@MudkrabLord
4 жыл бұрын
@@DrexandCTHproduction I completely agree, Jiren could've been used to show us that this is what Goku could've been if he beat Jackie Chun back in the day, similar to how Gaara parallels to Naruto, but with the way Jiren was treated in both the manga and anime, it really shows that the writers only really knew what they were doing with Zamasu and Black and even then they ruined that ending
@DrexandCTHproduction
4 жыл бұрын
Mudkrab Lord yeah I honestly don’t mind Zamasu as much as the rest of the fandom, and Goku Black has become one of my favorites. Again I think Jiren is more a sense of wasted potential rather than a straight up bore. I still really enjoyed the TOP as a whole
@Zemann2010
4 жыл бұрын
The moment I disliked most was how it seemed like Krillin was also given up on. He had that fantastic breakthrough by facing his fears and supposedly shattering his human glass ceiling, which also cemented his friendship with Goku (one of goku’s better moments in the series). Then having a fantastic double team fight with 18, and even using his wits to defeat the blind guy. Then he gets unceremoniously eliminated and goes back to his cheerleader/narrator role for the rest of the tournament as if he never had any growth at all.
@gagglegames
4 жыл бұрын
I dunno about Videl. I really liked the fact they took that trope of "oh a misunderstanding causes a rift in a relationship" and went "nah, not working." Gohan and Videl have had the chance to relax and settle over the time between Z and Super, which unfortunately was skipped over, and Videl's early personality seems more of a product of just being Mr Satan's daughter and therefore has to be the next strongest person. She probably took her chance to relax when her father was once again seen as the saviour of Earth.
@inferzen5142
4 жыл бұрын
I hope that anyone who reads this has a great week and enjoy the vid! Edit: thanks for 114 likes!
@Emperor-Z
4 жыл бұрын
Why thank you
@inferzen5142
4 жыл бұрын
@@Emperor-Z np I like wishing people luck and making sure they are having a good day😁
@pradyutgopalan8170
4 жыл бұрын
Finally a nice KZitem comment
@caedenclements3667
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@JanizMakudomaru
4 жыл бұрын
Happy! Lucky! Smile! Yay!
@tomcurl8034
4 жыл бұрын
One of my least favorite part is that they were too lazy to show us what android 17 family look like
@likeanuuk6612
4 жыл бұрын
i kinda like it because it opened up a theory that one of his kids is a cell Jr
@eleos-7845
4 жыл бұрын
In the anime, it feels like Gohan relied to much on Goku and, possibly, Vegeta, thinking, ”My father can handle it. He can handle anything, so why should I even bother?” It’s like why Krillin and Co. sometimes ask Goku if he think he is stronger than the current enemy they are fighting when he shows up. That’s why I love the recent Moro chapters, where most of the Z-fighters didn’t really ask for the Sayians until the final boss
@WraithThorns
4 жыл бұрын
How they treated Tien.
@wolfgod6443
4 жыл бұрын
Tbf Tien hasn't changed since Z. Technically taking out Hermillia (Blanka Sniper) in the ToP was his first significant victory over a threat since Cyborg Tao. I mean, that's not good, but this is a larger problem of Dragonball.
@zainy_inc154
3 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@_XVIII_
4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad he brought up Videl. I miss her personality.
Goku black was not only erased from the timeline but also this list
@King_Luigi
4 жыл бұрын
_"He wasn't even ON the List!"_ _"YAMCHA was on the List!"_
@bluestreaksthehedgehog.
4 жыл бұрын
King Luigi Yamcha: WHY WAS I?!.. Cell: HALF TIME ENTERTAINMENT!!! Yamcha:... frankly I’m just happy to be included.
@BlastoiseMaster
4 жыл бұрын
Ginyu: “I’m back!” Vegeta: “No you’re not.”
@NS55gaming
4 жыл бұрын
No one’s gonna mention Chi-Chi’s character in Super anime? To me, I felt she could’ve been more kindhearted and caring. Not to mention, her anger moments really put the anime into a screeching halt.
@Basheerrko
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with all the bad moments that you mentioned but in my opinion one of the worst moments in dragon ball super is Tenshinhan character and how they treat him with their bad writing.
@jmac28211
4 жыл бұрын
That’s not really a moment.
@captaindystopia
4 жыл бұрын
what about cell lol
@tomcurl8034
4 жыл бұрын
Goten and trunks should have matured emotionally since the end of z even if sayans don’t have a growth spurt until 18
@NinjaMan47
4 жыл бұрын
Goku Black has transcended lists. It is in its own universe of bad.
@heavydonkeykong5190
4 жыл бұрын
I love the arc, but I hate the ending. I like the part with the two Zenos, but everything else just saddened me.
@pranavdatar9170
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was the best villain dragon ball had. He was strong and he wasn't going to get down anyhow with any power up
@meganinten0078
4 жыл бұрын
The Black Goku arc in one word: What?!
@davidlarkin1040
4 жыл бұрын
@@meganinten0078 The Goku Black Arc In One Sentence: *Sir, This Man Isn't Black*
@Webshooters1
4 жыл бұрын
Eh, it had it's highs, lows, and LOWEST point. It starts off good, there's the whole mystery about Black and why he looks like Goku but then it meanders around the middle point where Goku, Beerus, and Whis are trying to make sure the Zamasu from their timeline will do the same things his future version did along with Present!Zamasu getting the pieces together to make his wish along with them going back and forth to the future and getting their asses kicked then it starts getting good again once Black and Zamasu fuse and Vegito shows up and if it had ended with Trunks' asspull Spirit Bomb Sword I wouldn't have minded this arc. BUT THEN EPISODE 67 HAPPENED. On the one hand it did make sure both Black and Zamasu's actions had an impact but on the other hand it just made Trunks and Mai have the worst ending imaginable. Yeah, they're now in a timeline similar to their own but the truth is, everyone in that timeline has led radically different lives and they're not really the same people they formed bonds with. They're different people almost. It's honestly why I was hoping Trunks and Mai would stay in the past because at least there they have people they know and have fought alongside. There is SOME KIND of support network.
@EA-bv8zk
4 жыл бұрын
Most of the resurrection F arc was very uncomfortable for me
@Lukedolan33
4 жыл бұрын
Caulifla and Kale transforming into super saiyan for the first time via “a tingly feeling in your back” always makes me mad honestly
@guillaumegrignard7437
4 жыл бұрын
Luke Dolan TOEI just forgot the whole concept of the Super Saiyan transformation
@theamazingmaymay123
4 жыл бұрын
Controversial opinion: I don’t think they should’ve brought Roshi back for the T.o.P. He was fun to see and all but it took away from what could’ve been more interactions with the other characters
@alcatrazvongola
4 жыл бұрын
"I wanna gnaw my ears off everytime Gotenks speaks." AD: *HOLY CHOIR INTENSIFIES*
@novacorponline
4 жыл бұрын
For piccolo; I think the reason he couldn't get back in during the universe 6 tournament was because he regenerates, so he wouldn't have the same pin prick mark to prove that the poison dart was used on him. For the tournament of power though, it was completely inexcusable. Not only could he have saved himself with stretchy arms, but he has better hearing than 17; so if 17 could hear that the enemy was tiny, Piccolo should have as well.
@princeboyd3795
4 жыл бұрын
I think the one thing i hated most in the series was how the humans were handled in the TOP. Krillen had excellent build up and character progression and yet he was knocked out withen 2 minutes and it wasn't anything special like sacrificing himself to save 18 knowing she's ultimately stronger it was the result of him being careless witch i can forgive goku for but not krillen. And then tein was just completely wasted One of the coolest fighters with a unique moveset and abilities that would realistically make him extremely useful in a fight was relegated to a bigger joke than krillen and that infuriated me. Many people will just pass over this thinking "Oh they weren't that useful anyways so who cares" but if your going to go as far as to bring back fighters that haven't ever really been in the spotlight aside from a select few times the very least you can do is show them some sort of respect.
@adamdaman6784
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame that super has those moments a lot, it has so much potential.
@jodinsan
4 жыл бұрын
"I usually like to be positive about things, but as we all know, Dragonball isn't exactly...perfect." *Cell immediately powers up to Super Saiyan 2* "You take that back."
@fleshbirdie
4 жыл бұрын
Hard agree on the Videl point. I hated that mini arc so much based on how much her character was trashed and watered down. Of course she’s grown up and matured, but that doesn’t mean she has to lose her toughness, her drive, or her stubbornness. All that I loved about her in the Buu arc was completely erased right there and then and it was so irritating. Besides, who just blindly follows their significant other like that? I get having trust, but the amount of supposed trust the writers made her have in Gohan did not seem healthy or realistic.
@LordProteus
4 жыл бұрын
Piccolo can stretch his arms, but he falls out of the ring. Vegeta's arms cannot stretch and he grabs the edge of the ring to stop himself from falling out...
@justinkamperveen3860
3 жыл бұрын
Videl's arc was the reverse of Chi Chi's. Chi Chi started as a dosile princess who became tough. Videl started as a badass and became a dosile housewife.
@LordQuadros
4 жыл бұрын
So, I feel like Goku might have had sort of a Flowers for Algernon situation, where the impact to his head as an infant allowed him to grow up more receptive to a non-battle-obsessed lifestyle, even with the introduction of combat and training into his life. Despite some blind spots, he was able to mature in some areas over the course of Z, but for whatever reason, opening the gate for divine energy caused him to regress in those areas. Or it's just bad writing, but if Toriyama wants an out, there it is.
@tiablue9106
4 жыл бұрын
The dumbest thing about Goku forgetting the Mafuba seal (aside from the fact that he already forgot the senzu beans on the 1st trip) was that Supreme Kai and Gowasu were right there. They could’ve just gone back to the main timeline and gotten it instantly. Instead they just added to the uselessness of everyone in the situation
@randon_lummer
4 жыл бұрын
Goku being too goofy was his midlife crisis
@nicwoolfe3885
4 жыл бұрын
Where would Moro-Seven-Three rank in the Next Top 10? lol
@Anon_wulf
4 жыл бұрын
I think Vegeta getting shafted again after all that hype right before the transformation is worst lol
@Youngturntsnipers
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@skr_skr1
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have mind it that much if the manga wasn't a once a month thing.
@SomeRandomJackAss
4 жыл бұрын
He looks like a full-on fan manga character...
@augustoeremita7940
4 жыл бұрын
My worst moments of Super are definitely: -ALL episodes until the Universe 6 Tournament -Magetta -Frost -Buu's uselessness (Including in the TOP and Moro Sagas) -ALL of Copy Vegeta episodes (except Copy Vegeta Blue, that looked kinda lit) -Black Saga ending (obviously) -Universe 2 -Jiren's Backstory (literally Alien Sasuke)
@ARZ_201
4 жыл бұрын
Mine were pretty much the movie parts. Half of universe 6 arc. 2nd half of Goku black saga, top prelims. That’s it with story wise. Characters really just botamo, magetta due to that weakness. Half of uni 2. Future trunks (which is a shame cause when talking about Z trunks he’s god like) the only parts I really liked were some fillers, bits and prices from uni 6 tournament, 1st half of goku black arc and majority of top. Also the broly movie ( easily the best thing super delivered)
@DrakeKnight99
4 жыл бұрын
I'll say it the whole Manaka thing got annoying as hell. I get his meme status but in the show it was freaking annoying with Goku wanting to fight him at every opportunity he was on screen sometimes multiple times
@josephinegrant8941
4 жыл бұрын
I think it would've been really funny if Monaka secretly trained with Whis and actually became the strongest.
@stefanradebach2889
4 жыл бұрын
@@josephinegrant8941 Now that would have been a good and funny twist. But instead they took the Mr Satan route but without any of the charm and humor of him and just have Monaka be nonentity.
@orientallegendcomics1316
3 жыл бұрын
I wish that instead of Buu falling asleep yet again, he went missing then when Moro arrives it's revealed that the galactic patrol captured buu and had tried to get the Grand Kaioshin out of him for days now while Goku and Vegeta had to deal with Broly and the TOP.
@redphoenixmk3388
4 жыл бұрын
What bothers me the most in Super is the fact that you have all these cool characters and they either get wasted or relagatd to the side so Vegeta and Goku (more often Goku) solve the problem. There were some cool pretty cool character interactions and slivers of character moments but the end results often lead to poor or lack luster payoffs. Trunks' Goku Black Arc and Gohan's character alone demonstrate this painfully. Gohanverse does give me my Gohan fix though lol
@redphoenixmk3388
4 жыл бұрын
*relegated
@olddogmaster6643
4 жыл бұрын
As much as I like super the dumb moments make me very angry more so than in dragon ball Z.
@NathanielEssex1849
4 жыл бұрын
@8:00 , Buu blowing up the arena would have been a complete - and unfair victory for Universe 7. I still think that Buu could have taken the place of a number of others who just had to be put into the ToP.
@ryudragon7
4 жыл бұрын
DB and even more so, DBZ. Were all just series made for Goku, then later Vegeta to fight increasingly stronger beings. The plot and characters were about as deep as a kiddy pool. But it really does irk me to see the series take an even more dumbed down and simplistic view of everything. Worst yet, no one beyond Goku or Vegeta can have any lasting spotlight.
@Saiaix
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I mourned Videl (first real anime crush) being relegated to another housewife. Even the Saiyan-god-ritual In this universe merely relegated her to a carrier. Thank God she's an awesome human-level badass in universe nine in DBM. Thanks for acknowledging what a loss that was. I miss the crime-fighting GF tomboy.
@Sailor11Sedna
4 жыл бұрын
I read this other manga in which the Nyoibo (what English readers would consider the Power Pole) was used more creatively. The right user could make it change its shape as it was still stretching to hit a dodging opponent, or make it broad like a shield, sharp like a needle, etc. No reason this couldn't fit in the Dragonverse, and we've already seen how creative Gotenks can be... so just give Trunks that enchanted sword and Goten a Nyoibo already! Also, nobody ever said that only Goku or only Saiyans could learn Ultra Instinct. Give it to one of the humans before they get too old for this.
@dusanstojsin4938
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Gohan's regression reminds me of what happened to Superman in Justice League season 1 (if you've seen that)
@panoskinnas9867
4 жыл бұрын
Please do a What if Kamiccolo defeated semi-perfect Cell?
@SupComRaiden2
4 жыл бұрын
Am I really the one person who thought that Jirens back story in the anime was exactly the same as Goku's past? Save for a couple changes that easily could have happened to Goku? Also can we just agree that the entire reason for them doing what they did with Gohan is because having him train at all would have been an instant win button. Yes Goku and Vegeta always are the ones to save the day, but they do have to work for it. Gohan in theory wouldn't.
@chrisbellamy7145
4 жыл бұрын
A bad moment in Super was Goku trying to justify his death at the hands of Hit to Goten, it's reallllllllly not a good influence for younger audiences, not nearly as bad for younger audiences as the end of the Goku black arc but still.......
@alluringming
4 жыл бұрын
What if pharmacy shapeshifting wasn't used more in Dbz and what if she trained like goku. What if grand kai was canon and played bigger part of dbz What if zangya was canon and turned good What if videl showed up on master Roshi island around time l games or just few months to a year after cell games
@cjstrikercbr3013
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Please I would love for Zangya to be Canon! 😎👍
@alluringming
4 жыл бұрын
@@cjstrikercbr3013 I think so too, plus I think she be good additional to team. If her base form is on level of ssj and she learned transform and perfect transformation, then she become a powerful ally to a fighters
@seawarrior954
4 жыл бұрын
I would prefer to see Zangya get her insides blown up by Bojacks big blast
@seawarrior954
4 жыл бұрын
And if they make a Bojack arc then Gohan should be the mc, maybe give us the new form that he hinted at (ssj4?)
@Boyzby
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched more than 2 episodes of Super, but hearing what happens to Videl, who I remember being one of my favorite characters, is a bummer.
@mathieuleader8601
4 жыл бұрын
instead of having Captain Ginyu as Tagoma I would have made Ginyu inhabiting Jiren in the tournament
@guillaumegrignard7437
4 жыл бұрын
Mathieu Leader In a fanfic, Tagoma trained and ranked to Majin Buu’s level and he was stronger than this wimp we saw in DBS...
@johndoeyt2831
3 жыл бұрын
Masako: Dragonball isnt perfect Cell: Hey don't say that!!
@gabrielparker3289
4 жыл бұрын
What about the baseball episode that really pissed me off Goku knows what baseball is because in dragon ball z he said batter up son to Gohan when they where on the Kai's planet
@calebglasscock7392
3 жыл бұрын
Videl is a better wife and mother then Chi Chi could ever hope to be because she doesn't care if Gohan decides to fight and train over his job and she wants Pan to see him as a hero.
@alphawolf7417
3 жыл бұрын
True but at the same time she lost every bit of her original personality from Z. At least with Chi-Chi and Bulma they have remnants of their original personalities from both OG Dragon Ball and Z. Hell Videl in GT was still shown to be a skilled fighter and had some spunk. But in Super literally all that's left of Videl from Z is her ability to fly.
@bluekirby64
4 жыл бұрын
Goku Black just being another Zamasu that was really disappointing to me especially because coming up with a back story for really isn’t that hard just make it him a version of Goku that didn’t hit his head as a kid much better than him just being a Version of Zamasu that stole Goku’s body
@darkleoson7205
4 жыл бұрын
dude dragonball mines show us goku was neve eivl befor he h hti has and broly movie evne prof that so goku not hting has head wood not make him eivl dude
@lcc2348
3 жыл бұрын
Masako: Dragon Ball isn't perfect Cell: and I took that personally
@joj5150
2 жыл бұрын
I read this in tfs cell voice lol
@kiryuthedragonwarrior2746
4 жыл бұрын
Best moment in the anime for me was episode 95 with Golden Freiza. The Gogeta in the Broly Movie was also the best time
@thewittywhygaming6487
4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball Multiverse is the true successor to DBZ. I freaking said it.
@zerofudou5689
4 жыл бұрын
If you call wanking Bra so much that only powerless Bra can beat her while throwing Vegito under the bus as being a true successor to DBZ then yeah. Lets not kid ourselves after the latest events in Multiverse its no better than Super hell its actually seems worse.
@TonyRead31
4 жыл бұрын
@MasakoX my worst moment in Super is the entirety of the Goku vs Hit rematch on earth.
@tiablue9106
4 жыл бұрын
Something abt Buu falling asleep for “at least 2 months” I’ve never seen anyone mention is that it was bs. In the ending sequence of Ep. 131, Buu is awake at the party. So what the hell? If Vegeta has blown up the time chamber AGAIN, they totally could’ve used it. And there could have been some rules prohibiting Buu’s more “OP” abilities like healing and absorption. Even if they wanted Frieza on the team, practically anyone besides Buu was better to swap him out for. They already faked us out enough w/ the U6 VS U7 tournament, they made it worse by doing it again, and w/ the same lazy excuse. Someone suggested the better reason of excluding Buu being the fact that he has a Kai inside him. I’d still be mad, but less so.
@jakehbbs630
4 жыл бұрын
2:46 Raditz in a Captain America costume: I understood that reference!
@InfinityZeroEX
4 жыл бұрын
I like to think DB Super Goku was Goku in his mid-life crisis and the end of Super is him snapping back to his senses.
@Akatsukileader9
4 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that Piccolo is the *only* character that falls out of the arena in the *exact same way* in both the manga and the anime. Sure, Jiren, Goku and Frieza fall under the same context, but not the exact actions/poses/physical similarities, and characters like Kefla, Cabba or Gohan fall under completely different circumstances. Piccolo goes down the same way, at the same time, and by the same enemy. Some of the ones closest to him are Frost or Hit, both kicked out by the same people in similar circumstances (deception, and a one on one fight), but Frost and Frieza never do the full power thing, and Frieza just physically forces him out instead of using a ki blast, while Jiren just destroys Hit in the manga, not letting him use any techniques that we can see.
@BL_Lusha
4 жыл бұрын
Roflmao, I feel this is a list of 11-2 worst Super Moments! #1 Has already received its own special video. XD
@Alice_Fumo
4 жыл бұрын
What, regarding Gokus intelligence and way of presenting himself seems out of place, when we consider the amount of times he was either hit in the face, fell on his head, was headfirst thrown through a mountain range or other head trauma he's endured? It's not pretty to see, but that's what happens when the very essence of a person degrades.
@Eric-gp3hi
4 жыл бұрын
My worst Dragonball Super moments would have Future Trunks and Future Mai leaving to another timeline to live with another Future Trunks and Future Mai which means that they were okay with living a lie they should have just stayed in the main timeline with the Dragon Team and other worst moment would be Gohan getting defeated by Frezia it showed how much Gohan had regressed in power.
@darkleoson7205
4 жыл бұрын
dude even if gohan had the some power he di in buu saga fireza wood steel win frieza trained has base form to beceom stronger then majn buu so way do think wood happen if buu sgaa gohan fight fireza he wood steel lose
@OurKindofEntertainment
4 жыл бұрын
@7:48 "Had Buu been in the T.O.P. it would've lowered the stakes considerably...even more!" Vados about Jiren: "Jiren possess power that transcends time itself... Yeah, BUU would've been able to seriously lower the stakes for Universe 7 lol
@jackskatter.3888
4 жыл бұрын
Especially buus healing ability.
@bashbango9275
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@slifer875
3 жыл бұрын
"Jiren possess power that transcends time itself..." that is still the stupidest line in DBS and the worst momment in the show.
@funkmantim2661
3 жыл бұрын
Especially when you consider that buu technically also has the ability, remember the Hyperbolic time chamber with super buu and gotenks? anyone as strong or stronger than ssj3 gotenks/super buu has the ability to do so. Janemba had dimension/reality warping abilities. even if a movie villain it was still impressive. Hell, idk about you, but the fact that ssjb kaioken goku was able to bypass hit's time skip before jiren does not tell you much about how strong he actually is anyways, made even worse when you consider the fact that it means that anyone who is around the same power as universe 7v6 ssjb kaioken goku is able to bypass his time skip, yet that does not make them on par with jiren.
@SIFAssassin
2 жыл бұрын
Jiren's story is pretty by the numbers, but I think it could have worked if like you said, they devoted more time to it. Ideally, I would have had Jiren himself flashback to it right before he goes Hulk mode. I'm in the minority of people who don't think Jiren is boring, he's ultimately a broken man who can't move on. That characterization really shines when Goku goes UI and starts backing him into a corner and he begins to freak out.
@Tareltonlives
4 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how a lot of these are extensions of the mistakes made during the Bu arc
@masterquake7
4 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with number 1. Jiren is my most hated character in Super because he's just generic alien with a generic backstory that told us nothing about the character or how he got absurdly strong. You can't just say 'oh this guy is more powerful than a god of destruction' without going into ANY detail. I do hope that either Jiren doesn't come back or if he does it explains like that his race has some weird latent ability that lets them power up super fast or that he is particularly special or does some special unheard of training.
@ianr.navahuber2195
4 жыл бұрын
Poutafeu is sad because it proofs the writers of super can't even do "filler" without relyin on goku and vegeta
@MANOFGOD9000
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect Cell: Hmm...
@ikeford4963
4 жыл бұрын
when you realize Jiren Cheated throughout most of the Tournament of Power and still lost
@Fonzzz002
2 жыл бұрын
I found moments of enjoyments in pretty much all of these, but I couldn't really defend them either. I understand both the like & dislike towards these moments.
@glennbriggs6490
4 жыл бұрын
I didn't mind gohan taking a break. It's always kind of been in his nature to be a pacifist. but what bugs me is at the point where buu just absorbs him. The buu fight was the point in time where they could've repaired the damage. You'd also think after fighting such a dangerous enemy like buu that if nothing else, this would be his wake up call. Or even beerus ...it shouldn't have taken until frieza or the T.O.P for Gohan to come into his own again
@undergnomes6248
3 жыл бұрын
From hes acting like himself in the Moro arc to hes acting toooooo much like himself 😂
@Holdenheroofheroes
4 жыл бұрын
My main gripe with Super is how dirty they did Tien.
@tobigrantlbart
4 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Jiren isn't even the blandness, but how it was conveyed.
@cosplayingzoroark7292
4 жыл бұрын
Tbh I wouldn’t have hated Jiren not having a backstory in the ToP Just have him be more openly arrogant about how he is strong enough to not need allies, then give us an arc after Moro showing him requesting help. Then use THAT arc to give him a solid backstory on why he was a giant tool
@bubblelf4341
4 жыл бұрын
i was so mad the whole time piccolo was just a babysitter 😣
@lucciolabazurto3285
Жыл бұрын
me too
@Sobieskicharge
2 жыл бұрын
Zeno being a thing is the worst thing to ever happen to Dragon Ball. Just undermines the whole thing.
@ligerjgold6686
4 жыл бұрын
If you truly want to see the contrast between Goku from Z and Goku from Super then watch the fight between Xeno Goku and Goku CC from Super Dragon Ball Heroes anime.
@End0531
3 жыл бұрын
We all know that most of super is about goku and vegeta and when their not there the writer somewhat give up on the other characters
@darkamulet5768
4 жыл бұрын
What if Bulma was a Red Ribbon Army Agent? Either Capsule Corp in this universe served as a division for the Red Ribbon Army OR was absorbed by the RR, making Bulma really want the Dragonballs to either serve her faction and take over the world (but still claim to Goku it's for strawberries/boyfriend) OR to free her family company from the RR?
@subwaysurfer5378
4 жыл бұрын
Here is what I think. I think they should ditch the world and universe ending stakes and plot devices to fix it. It has gotten really boring. They should start doing an arc where the Z fighters focus on the relationships of themselves. How they see the other members. Realising how everything became to easy. They should also make them turn against each other. They should do slice of life moments because Dragon ball Super is much better with its slice of life moments. And how they would fit in with society. They should also be in cities and no wastelands. It would be refreshing. Piccolo shouldn't constantly be seen in wastelands and Tien should not be constantly seen on mountains. I want Cell to return but he and Frieza need to have a friendship. They should also gossip about the dysfunctional Z fighters
@WolfRider2002
4 жыл бұрын
My least favorite moment in dragonball super would have to be whenever the pilaf gang was on screen. I loved these guys in the original dragonball, but what was the point of shoving them back into the story? I mean, they did provide an amusing scene in the resurrection f movie and we also got future Mai, but aside from that, nothing but annoying and face palm inducing scenes where the original dragon team fails to recognize that these guy's are the pilaf gang. The only one who went through any major changes was Mai. I can believe that Goku would forget, it has been a long time and he is an idiot. But I can not buy that bulma would forget who they are. I thought you were supposed to be smart Bulma!
@arutka2000
4 жыл бұрын
There are no movie arcs. Moving on.
@mewtwo150clone
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine buu in the ToP? Turns a whole universe into gum balls and throughs em out
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