"Garchomp isn't broken. Just use Wide Lens Slowbro with Ice Beam to bypass Sand Veil, bro." *"Slowbro used Ice Beam!" But it missed!"* "You missed! How could you miss?!"
@sayvionwashington1939
4 жыл бұрын
"Lando-I isn't broken. It has to use Focus Blast, so there's a high chance it'll miss the second one." "But what if it actually lands the second Focus Blast?" "...Well, then sucks to be you."
@charizardpropaganda
4 жыл бұрын
you do realize only Rough skin Garchomp was allowed right?
@BKCplaysPokemon
4 жыл бұрын
@@charizardpropaganda as we said in the video, sand veil chomp was available in BW1 before it was banned for being absurdly overpowered. in bw2, rough skin chomp was released and retested in ou and determined to be fine when there was no sand veil around.
@phillipamorris422
3 жыл бұрын
Scarf cloud nine golduck with ice beam.
@Thunderblunder777
4 жыл бұрын
easily the best gen
@Swampratatta
4 жыл бұрын
been enjoying your new gen 5 content
@AA-cj4il
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I totally agree @blunder btw I like your content.
@blablablabla3878
3 жыл бұрын
easily the one you started with, kid
@mamounyaakoubi
3 жыл бұрын
true
@Terminatereditz
3 жыл бұрын
Definetly
@josidfin
4 жыл бұрын
thanks for having me and I hope everyone enjoys! love bw
@thesprinkler7893
3 жыл бұрын
We'll see
@NishantShankar-j8h
Жыл бұрын
ban toxapex
@acc3209
4 жыл бұрын
If you think im going to watch almost 3 hours of Gen 5 competitive history you are absolutely right
@terminatedtag930
3 жыл бұрын
Watch? Doubt it. Listen? Hell Yeah!
@donovanchilton5817
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still salty we never got shadow tag Chandelure.
@ILiekFishes
2 жыл бұрын
we never got type immune dogs gen 5 didn't have contrary serp either. very disappointed.
@butteredsalmonella
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Gen 6 M-Sableye Stall but instead of ScarfTrick Gothithelle, we have ScarfTrick Chandelure.
@_lostglory
2 жыл бұрын
@@butteredsalmonella Chandelure would have been immediately banned. It comes in on any defensive mon and sets up for free. You could run a SubSalac set and immediately substitute, set up calm mind, and then sub down to your salac berry and sweep.
@funkymachine
2 жыл бұрын
@@_lostglory yeah and if would have been hilarious
@Interiorcrocodilealigator10838
2 жыл бұрын
Goth would be like the deoxys normal of shadow taggers
@Yeshua_Kristos
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, this semi-podcast was enjoyable, I assure you. I used it as background noise for my BW nuzlocle (how appropriate). You really put into perspective just how _volatile_ the metagame has been and continues to be. Sleep is banned, all the Swift Swim variants are banned, trapping is banned... and it feels like the metagame is STILL volatile! XD
@YaBoySheeny
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh I think people are just lazy when it comes to team building so things seem volatile when we all in the same box. Like volt turn should be a day one strategy but nope people were busy focusing on "viable" by other people's standards.
@sabastianmoore8467
4 жыл бұрын
B&W OU was my childhood, and this filled my heart with so much nostalgia. Thank you guys.
@johanericsson7309
4 жыл бұрын
This is like reliving my early teens (joined right around the end of bw1). This might only be me, but do you guys remember people lowering IVs on their mons to "choose" what boost Genesect would get from Download? Also, using CB Genesect for the satisfaction of a +1 CB U-Turn was just awesome. Edit: Did any of you use Specs Torn-T with Hurricane, Stalk, U-turn, no 4th move (just to troll Loom and Amoonguss)
@BKCplaysPokemon
4 жыл бұрын
some people actually used 11 defense ivs on garchomp (iirc) just so genesect wouldn't get +1 spatk and thus chomp could live ice beam with yache berry. it was lunacy.
@johanericsson7309
4 жыл бұрын
BKC Figured it was something along those lines. Both of you were absolutely right tho, abt new players, like me, absolutely loving BW2. I wasn’t allowed to download PO on my parents’ computer (didn’t have one of my own until 9th grade), so Gen 5 was all I could play at the time.
@katys.7767
4 жыл бұрын
hell ya, the collab i was waiting for, you have such good inside knowledge about BW and its really cool to listen to these kinds of metagame history. you should def do more together because that BW history is really good to listen! thanks BKC and Finch for spending soo much time on that! :)
@hydroturd
2 жыл бұрын
36:00 "Landos nutz".. I was only passively listening and thought it was a joke. This gen is actually not bad! Glad to be trying it
@pussyslayer4356
4 жыл бұрын
really cool BW history lesson. didint even know BW had so much of a story arc to it
@Last_Respecter
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it has the most turbulent yet exciting history out of all gens aside from gen 6 with fairies and Megas being introduced.
@oliverthoumst3181
4 жыл бұрын
I'm having a real bad time in my life, and this colab video is exactly what i need to take things off my mind for a bit, thankyou guys. thanks to all the competitive poketubers really
@evanardiff3207
4 жыл бұрын
You can get through it Oli, the poke community is full of content and kindness 👌
@BKCplaysPokemon
4 жыл бұрын
hope everything gets better man. reach out on discord if you need anything. glad this video could help in some way
@SissypheanCatboy
4 жыл бұрын
thanks to this video I won both of my first two OU gen 5 matches (and first competitive matches ever). It was great Honestly I'd like to thank you for helping me get into the competitive pokemon scene!
@PrimitivElement
3 жыл бұрын
Literally some of my first memories of mons is watching early BW OU videos and just thinking everything had really weird names
@whydoiexist2180
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact in vgc thunder wave swagger prankster was defining for bw and bw2 until xy where gamefreak had to nerf into the ground
@whydoiexist2180
4 жыл бұрын
If you didnt know vgc is the official competitive pokemon
@typhlosion108
4 жыл бұрын
I always used a twave swagger liepard in BW NU as a lead to infuriate other low ladder players. That thing alone has won some games for me, but collects a lot of salt
@whydoiexist2180
4 жыл бұрын
@@typhlosion108 imagine it's a dominant playstyle for 3 years and you there's an item clause dear god item clause because not all of your mon can hold lum berry
@mangosteak
4 жыл бұрын
@@whydoiexist2180 Bro/Sis this time U are the idiot. Game Freak only cares about doubels, all their nerfs are cause one pokemon in VGC are to dominant. Parental Bound Gale Wings Shadow Tag Pramkster
@whydoiexist2180
4 жыл бұрын
@@mangosteak ik but why did they add heavy-duty boots or sticky web entry hazard are trash in doubles? at least consider that they care but they care more in vgc which I mostly care and shadow tag nerf can also be effected in singles (gengar)
@bbdouble
4 жыл бұрын
Love the way you talk about the history of competetive Pokemon!! I started on BW as well and all the memories you guys talk about is super nostalgic. Keep up the great work!!!
@grotn_
4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh I'm very excited for this gonna watch this after schools done.
@grotn_
4 жыл бұрын
It's time to watch boys 😎
@pirateclick1d169
4 жыл бұрын
8 hours of school bro?
@niklasdavind4722
4 жыл бұрын
@@pirateclick1d169 I mean it's p standard for school unless elementary
@Swampratatta
4 жыл бұрын
this is school
@howaboutsomecorn8592
4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine a world where Deoxys and its forms are anything but Ubers. You're saying Deoxys-D was UU at a point? It sounds like you're telling a joke lol
@@BKCplaysPokemon I'm laughing so hard. This fact on top of Tornadus-T switching into stealth rock WITH life orb and gaining HP?!? and the counter-play for Landorus Incarnate being "just dodge the focus blast" are so mind boggling to me.
@sk4diddle571
4 жыл бұрын
Deoxys-d Is the worst from but it's still crazy it was uu
@howaboutsomecorn8592
4 жыл бұрын
@@sk4diddle571 I wouldn't call it the worst, I'd give that honor to the default form but it still never belong in UU lmao
@TheBrownestFalcon
4 жыл бұрын
@@howaboutsomecorn8592 Base Deoxys is still really good (way too much for OU) and much better than Deoxys-D, it's just outclassed by Deoxys Attack.
@FlaskFlash
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has been playin mons long enough knows what you are talking about. Ononokosu, Sazandora... I even remember when Weavile was Manjula, Lucario Rukario, X'D even when T-tar was banguirasu.
@hppern3971
2 жыл бұрын
The only one I still remember years and years later is Nattorei
@GIR177
4 жыл бұрын
Gen 5 OU was such an amazing ride. I don't really play as much now because it's a lot more muted compared to the wild wild west that it used to be for most of its life, but I still hold fond memories of those metas to this day. Gen 5 also had in my opinion the best Uber and UU tiers ever. Newer gen UUs are still pretty fun in their own ways, but Ubers has never been nearly as fun and legitimately well balanced as back then.
@CMSonYT
Жыл бұрын
Gen 5 ubers was and is horribly underrated
@malareon
3 жыл бұрын
One thing I took away from this video, I wouldn't wish being a smogon counsel member on to my worst enemy.
@Typhoonflame
4 жыл бұрын
Man, this video took me back to when I first started playing competitively! (Right around Thundurus's ban) Thank you both for the trip down memory lane!
@Ashfak_123
3 жыл бұрын
Binge watching your vids as just found ur channel. Loving all those past gens analysis so far
@idk-gu3jw
3 жыл бұрын
lol same
@Mijzelffan
4 жыл бұрын
34:00 this is xenoblade music, no bw remix
@caloom3393
4 жыл бұрын
Comments are good for the KZitem algorithm
@degradaddy2636
4 жыл бұрын
Great discussions. Some great replays too!
@DrydenJoss
4 жыл бұрын
bw ou was my fav, I loved the weather wars. I know it was tough but nothing has lived up that that for me.
@TartarusPitt
4 жыл бұрын
hell yeah! this is a great collab.
@temalatailleduraton7381
4 жыл бұрын
Il y a plus d'avion sous l'eau que de sous marin en l'air
@musique-ef3rz
4 жыл бұрын
There are more planes underwater than submarines in the air.
@pikminologueraisin2139
4 жыл бұрын
hein
@Carnius797
4 жыл бұрын
I remember a young white dude named “king daddy dmac” playing black and white. Then he went away forever
@Veecy
3 жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see more videos talking about the history of competitive Pokemon
@theoraclev2
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, the third game you showed was such a masterclass.
@niklasdavind4722
4 жыл бұрын
Omg the 2 bw goats, can't wait to watch the entire video
@blingblamslinginham9886
4 жыл бұрын
Man I miss that flame orb reunicles
@angrydaniel2905
4 жыл бұрын
The dream collab!
@ogot344
4 жыл бұрын
Your tempos match each other great
@AA-cj4il
4 жыл бұрын
Oh the weather wars with ttar and palpitoad
@AA-cj4il
4 жыл бұрын
and soul dew latis
@satvikjain4088
4 жыл бұрын
hail discord
@drew8235
3 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed watching this is Tyranitar looks way better as a sprite than he does in Gen 8, where he looks like a bloated try hard.
@torormseth
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very cool. Can you do 10 years of ADV next?
@pikminologueraisin2139
4 жыл бұрын
who remember sun stall with duggy ?
@steelbs
4 жыл бұрын
@CTC shoutout you for changing bw so much you’re the goat
@donovanchilton5817
4 жыл бұрын
I miss gen 5 weather wars. So much fun
@jontyhemme9760
4 жыл бұрын
Wait I knew sleep was banned but is relic song banned from meloeta. Know it’s not good in bw (or really ever) but if relic song is banned piroet forms is effectively dead right?
@newjumpcityjosh9333
2 жыл бұрын
I love your content BKC this it really a trip down memory lane
@mistermr2147
3 жыл бұрын
Lol at the guy with Massive Attack names
@jasonberezowski2869
Жыл бұрын
Still my favorite meta to this day.
@davidreyna7410
4 жыл бұрын
Holy crap you're my new favorite channel
@tomchorley2116
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who only started playing competitive in gen 8, gen 5 sounded like a wild time when it was the main gen
@AnimeGames16
3 жыл бұрын
Do you plan on doing more full histories of other gens in the future?
@davidtrottier7066
4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to talk about the moody ban.
@peternicholas3719
Жыл бұрын
Serene Grace Iron Head is just Gen 1 Wrap???
@KaiOcean408
2 жыл бұрын
I started playing showdown in gen 5 and I just spammed CB kyurem-black outrage. Good times :)
@KaiOcean408
2 жыл бұрын
1:49:14 guy on the right got so lucky 🍀
@Terminatereditz
3 жыл бұрын
@bkc ur so good I have nothing else to say
@noorhu2555
4 жыл бұрын
For algorithm
@mariodegenzgz
4 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, and because the videos you be making are high quality shit
@blingblamslinginham9886
4 жыл бұрын
Thirddddddd yooooooo bkc AND finchinator!? Good video already
@whydoiexist2180
4 жыл бұрын
Let's go
@reaper7910
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone count the number of times they said 'dumbest thing' or 'really dumb'?
@SupremeDirt
3 жыл бұрын
"team preview was added for zoroark" what?? it was pretty clearly added because of vgc.
@whydoiexist2180
3 жыл бұрын
it was because of both
@jenisia3600
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion.
@lionheartz1337
4 жыл бұрын
I really think sand balance always ended up as the best teamstyle due to a few things the biggest being how oppressive sand chip is. You need to do that passive damage vid bkc because despite the other weather's being fucking ridiculous with various abusers and abused playstyles the other weather's never touched what sand does to the mortal souls of your enemies. Combo that with spdef boosted tar and unwallable gliscor and it just gets out of hand fast.
@whydoiexist2180
3 жыл бұрын
congrat you got your wish
@avibi
4 жыл бұрын
Xenoblade music!
@whydoiexist2180
3 жыл бұрын
how do you think the metagame will change if weather is banned
@quimartolas12
4 жыл бұрын
i hope finch wins the smogtour
@joshelderkin9592
Жыл бұрын
I miss the sprites so much
@mariojmz011
4 жыл бұрын
Here at 690 views with 69 likes
@drew7311
4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@doublenikesocks
4 жыл бұрын
Garchomp wasn’t banned in BW1? I thought it only go unbanned in early BW2
@BKCplaysPokemon
4 жыл бұрын
no sir. here's a battle with it kzitem.info/news/bejne/026omWhtkZGjjJw
@newjumpcityjosh9333
2 жыл бұрын
CB genesect changed the game but I think that was gen 6
@ghost_ed420
2 жыл бұрын
Teams?
@joshelderkin9592
Жыл бұрын
Scald was so fucked up im so glad its gone lol
@trainer-bq4wj
3 жыл бұрын
17:29
@AmorAmarillo09
4 жыл бұрын
1:38:15 3 pajas al dia Dynamax? Megas? Z? Posho, nosotro, con en dieguito, jugabamos hydreigon y dragon spam. Maaamita, vo no sabe'...
@mylorddio8272
3 жыл бұрын
I still think the modern BW meta game is unbalanced I'm not a big fan of broken vs broken If There both broken then ban both
@Hologramburrito
2 жыл бұрын
theres always uu
@williamhewitt7791
3 жыл бұрын
The whole "they couldn't beat my stall team even when they knew it was coming!" and "I was just happy my stall team was good again" Makes me cringe😂 , haha
@TiresAreForCars
Жыл бұрын
Gen 5 is the perfect example of how incompetent smogon is and why its largely a meme at this point
@schroederluck7984
4 ай бұрын
This gen was easily the worst OU format of all time
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