yeah, like Queens aren't "units". They only defend against EVERYTHING... ...
@itsQuilow
22 сағат бұрын
Reynor standard build order challenge
@khianidude
20 сағат бұрын
He did know about the gold base, he attacked it with Zealots shortly after you took it.
@Cheshire9k
11 сағат бұрын
Yeah Harstem looking at the Hatchery being damaged "i dont think he knows"
@decarkain8248
23 сағат бұрын
5000 minerals!, hate to say it, but you should get a macro hatch
@Stardash81
22 сағат бұрын
He was maxed out almost the entire time
@DaRealLegacy
21 сағат бұрын
@@Stardash81which should reinforce the need to get it more
@graverobber575
21 сағат бұрын
@@DaRealLegacy how exactly does a macro hatch help when you cant make new units?
@nef36
20 сағат бұрын
@@graverobber575 @@graverobber575 Throw some lings at their economy, also, being maxed out means you don't need minerals for units, so more hatches mean faster remaxxing
@Changsta31
20 сағат бұрын
@@graverobber575 His biggest issue was lacking larva to remax with, so macro hatches would've helped with that. Harstem's injects aren't the best when he's in late game mode. Not a knock on him, he doesn't main zerg and it's hard to keep injecting in that situation. He also just stopped expanding which seems a bit odd when his bases would get mined out quicker than usual. He almost threw a game he was way ahead on lol
@NoluckBear
22 сағат бұрын
This probably was one of the most intense and enjoyable games I‘ve ever seen!
@JohnMelon-qg9tj
17 сағат бұрын
intense....
@paulbarteltii9998
10 сағат бұрын
Saved me from saying it. Thank you
@ChannelMiner
17 сағат бұрын
He made Overlords gg, he should only get more supply from hatcheries Kappa
@zergling123
22 сағат бұрын
Dude forgot that the oracle is called oracle after playing for 20 years
@jeppel1972
19 сағат бұрын
the 20 years is why, he doesn't know this new stuff
@zergling123
19 сағат бұрын
@@jeppel1972 That's not really new, specially for a Protoss player
@ShelbySigouin
14 сағат бұрын
@@zergling123 lmfao if you know you know also he called his hive a nexus when upgrading to it that protoss brain kicking
@martinprince8253
12 сағат бұрын
Lexus/Hexus
@milanmach2379
23 сағат бұрын
As a random with a really crappy Zerg, this is basically my playstyle. Pumping waves of drones is just so satisfying compared to how Terran and Protoss train them so slowly.
@inmundo6927
17 сағат бұрын
oh, so its acknowledged Zerg builds them at an insane rate. (Takes a random player to admit it)
@ShelbySigouin
14 сағат бұрын
@@inmundo6927 at the cost of your army legit against my protoss Harstem is dead because at 5 minutes i am hitting you with 8 gate charge lot and with 0 units your just dead
@ShelbySigouin
14 сағат бұрын
and that is why your zerg is crappy in truth zerg don't build drones faster then terran or protoss they actually build them slower Protoss warps in nexus builds probe, ques prob Terran builds Command Center builds scv, ques scv Zerg morphs into Hatchery, spawns larva then morphs 1st larva into drone, waiting for 2nd larva to spawn to morph into drone see the difference Terran and protss go straight to into building and queing while the zerg has to literally wait for the larva to exist to morph it into a drone, they can't que a damn thing up this makes zerg harder to play because you need vision to play zerg, you need to be able to see where you are and where your going and how to get there, you lack any of these 3 things and your zerg is doomed s to suck forever you play zerg and know it sucks because you do the same thing over and over again and the only thing that separates the sane and the insane is, expecting a different result while doing the exact same thing over and over again, so my question to you is are you doing the exact same thing over and over again while expecting a different result? and if you are then you are insane
@panner11
4 сағат бұрын
@@ShelbySigouin This is copypasta worthy. No way anyone is this pent up and triggered over people stating obvious things like droning being the fastest way to pump workers, which is why in standard pro games, zerg is supposed to stay ahead in workers. That last paragraph is especially deranged, like who are you talking to bro?
@Fofnful
20 сағат бұрын
Question: Why didnt he clear protoses entire main when the entire army of protos was clearing his base? Couldnt he have won much sooner if he destroyed all buildings when he had the army there?
@Changsta31
20 сағат бұрын
I was wondering that too. There was a good minute he was wandering around the middle of the map when he could've easily just cleared Protoss's main. Made it very close. The only thing I could imagine was that he knew the toss was supply blocked and thus couldn't make anything. And he didn't think he would win based off eliminating all buildings condition.
@JohnMelon-qg9tj
16 сағат бұрын
yup
@pawacoteng
16 сағат бұрын
Classic way for zerg to throw a game, lock yourself in your opponents main then get stormed to death trying to fight your way out.
@rylandrc
9 сағат бұрын
Because hindsight is 20/20
@honzaasterba
16 сағат бұрын
I miss the greediest man alive.
@martinprince8253
12 сағат бұрын
Capitalism downhill
@ironsilk6634
21 сағат бұрын
Captain, you made this so unnecessarily close.
@JohnMelon-qg9tj
17 сағат бұрын
yup
@svsv1191
23 сағат бұрын
Make it 90 and your liquid ret
@Weimar
22 сағат бұрын
I was thinking as wel.. this is just another day in the life for good old Ret
@svsv1191
21 сағат бұрын
@@Weimar 90 drones every game, what a legend truly ahead of his time we had no idea what he was going for
@jerubaal101
15 сағат бұрын
Somewhere out there, Day9 is smiling.
@michaelwicker9538
23 сағат бұрын
This is how I like to play AOE2 when I forget to build pikeman and get swarmed by 20 knights.
@repit5014
22 сағат бұрын
Drone so hard, Huk is tryna outmine me
@JohnCephas
14 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@Duckface994
33 минут бұрын
Not sure if it's already been done, but what about upgrading to 3/3 before building units?
@KerdeadB
15 сағат бұрын
At the end I noticed he actually had an observer in his base 26:54 XD
@Tillvioliniert
23 сағат бұрын
Now do it with protoss 😂
@michaelwicker9538
23 сағат бұрын
You have to cannon defend your own expansions.
@Stardash81
22 сағат бұрын
It's non viable with other races cause you can't sacrifice your army production to produce more workers (or vice versa) as easily
@kittyflier8338
3 сағат бұрын
Meh. Nice idea but poorly executed. Were it Serral he will end the game after hitting the 100 drone mark in 3 minutes by blowing up everything with banelings or something.
@memph1ston
5 сағат бұрын
ok, next game rush vipers but you can't use "abduct". like, no hotkey for that spell. you can click it I guess because that's its' own handicap.
@alesjaterka2155
Сағат бұрын
At the end, there is visible, that the prottos has observer in the bottom left corner of the screen. Good call that Harstem didn't suicided his hydras for getting the Oracle.
@0xbaadf00d
22 сағат бұрын
I used to play 3v3s with my friends. I played zerg and only built drones queens and hatcheries. I pumped all resources to my allies. It was kinda funny. I wonder if pros could use something like this in 3v3s or such.
@korlic9
9 сағат бұрын
in the first game you say its not great to lose a few drones and get attacked by the first oracle/adepts, however i would imagine you trading your tech and early units for drones means you trading a few drones for his army lessens the strength of the inevitable midgame attack. objectively a good thing for a zerg with 100 drones and queens to defend. I think you have relatively good defence early midgame when toss gets his first tech units out.
@youknownothing1242
21 сағат бұрын
I feel like once you saw him going air mass corruptor with the lurkers you already had would have won pretty hard. Just leapfrog forward like you're terran
@davidelrizzo
2 сағат бұрын
You probably could have destroyed all his buildings ¾ of the way through
@sdsdfdu4437
2 сағат бұрын
Challenge failed, you built queens before reaching 100 drones
@PcTriumph
21 сағат бұрын
How very Age of Mythology build of you!
@dekwoo1
22 сағат бұрын
Wouldn’t you be able to rush evo chambers. And then when your units do spawn they have upgrades
@soldier22881
11 сағат бұрын
beautiful green zerg, i like. also not a good idea destroying your own units =/
@2019inuyasha
Сағат бұрын
If you muta and drop drones and lings they get salty
@zhadoomzx
8 сағат бұрын
Gotta love it when even Harstem calls the oracle "the idot dude" 😂
@radiobrain94
17 сағат бұрын
Finally some content that represents how I actually play
@PROfaniteez
14 сағат бұрын
Wow crazy fantastic game, well done.
@Cooscoo
12 сағат бұрын
Toss thinking if zerg build drones he winning :)
@westkoastdogg6680
17 сағат бұрын
I used to always try shit like this in bronze league lol
@rodrigoff7456
22 сағат бұрын
What a banger! You had me on the edge of my seat all game!
@oliverhughes610
5 сағат бұрын
This is why 10 min no rush is the goat
@davidstud3952
14 сағат бұрын
what a nailbiter, great game!
@tsundude4320
8 сағат бұрын
Definitely under droned
@marcinkrocki8114
21 сағат бұрын
my favourite series
@deathcraft2299
22 сағат бұрын
engagement
@TerrariaiOSTAIOS
21 сағат бұрын
gg
@simongranier6715
15 сағат бұрын
Sick game
@GrantRGarner
10 сағат бұрын
Ultras
@LilaB3an
22 сағат бұрын
where does it tell you the # of drones you have? how do you always know exactly how many?
@enriquegarciacota3914
22 сағат бұрын
You hover the mouse over the supply number on the top right corner. Horrifyingly bad interface, it took me years to let it.
@elevation1560
20 сағат бұрын
"Oh he's going for disruptors, that's never a good call" XD
@mothrahlurker788
5 сағат бұрын
In PvZ
@ethanaleman
9 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@charlie3106
23 сағат бұрын
0.o
@Bradman1978
22 сағат бұрын
I have a weird thought. I saw some tournament matches TvZ against Serial. Both players started with cloak banshees and failed. I was thinking what would happen if Interference Matrix Ravens instead. They are the same price, and the Ravens have more health and starting armor, and the queens should be able to IM them. Should be able to keep them alive easier, and later they should have with creep and burrowed units.
@tambaz2276
17 сағат бұрын
would just die to an attack, banshees have defensive value ravens don't have
@mothrahlurker788
5 сағат бұрын
No, that's just worse. The #1 reason to open with banshees is that they provide safety vs roach allins and later give you map vision and runby safety. Ravens don't provide any of that. They are also just worse as an opening unit as they don't force spores, which are quite costly for zerg in the earlygame.
@drdorenton1060
22 сағат бұрын
feel like this challenge isn't really anything special as zerg lol, obviously it's a small handicap, unless you actually didn't do queens
@mothrahlurker788
22 сағат бұрын
No, it's a pretty significant handicap that should not win most of the time.
@DomenG33K
5 сағат бұрын
If you are very low elo "under plat" it isn't that bad. But this strat should lose 90% of the time in higher elo...
@martinprince8253
12 сағат бұрын
Firster comment. I’m trying out this new strategy Feedback welcome
@inmundo6927
17 сағат бұрын
QUEENS are not DRONES!! (classic zerg B.S.)
@flovnes
22 сағат бұрын
toss had an observer until the end tho??
@Moeron86
22 сағат бұрын
This has to be against ai? How does anyone with even half a brain see zero army units and not just crush the opponent?😮
@mothrahlurker788
22 сағат бұрын
You clearly play at a much lower level and don't understand current PvZ meta if you think that this was so surprising.
@Mysteryshopperr
21 сағат бұрын
@@mothrahlurker788any decent protoss would do some kind of stalkers early aggression poke or adepts glaives timing, and if they see opponent have no units from the early poking , they will def go for the ending. they wouldnt sit around and let zerg fully saturated 4 base. Moeron is not wrong.
@RagnarokCo
20 сағат бұрын
Maybe it was a gentlemen's agreement. He saw heavy eco, and decided to match his heavy eco.
@Moeron86
18 сағат бұрын
@mothrahlurker788 i am low level. And that's why I'm surprised. If I ever tried that as zerg on the ladder I'd be defeated by minute 3
@Moeron86
18 сағат бұрын
@@Mysteryshopperr yep. Exactly. I'm sorry you will likely be attacked for having common sense agreeing with me lol
@Kaefer1973
22 сағат бұрын
100 workers without units is not possible for Zerg, since they need Overlords to increase supply, this makes no sense.
@Amoeby
22 сағат бұрын
Uhm, actually ☝️🤓
@Avermra
22 сағат бұрын
@@Amoeby AcTuAlLy
@mithcio
22 сағат бұрын
Am I right that Zerg should be able to get to 400 drones without a single overlord? Hatcheries only till 200 and than Clem's APM to get 200 spores morphing, 200 drones and a huge spore cancel? I'm too lazy to check. Nevermind, disregard my comment, let's rephrase: ACTUALLY
@Amoeby
21 сағат бұрын
@@Avermra akshualie
@strammerdetlef
20 сағат бұрын
@@mithcio soundsd like a nice challenge lol
@REALAMERICANMAN531
18 сағат бұрын
Ive been playing zerg like this for 20 years
@berserkingsoul9767
5 сағат бұрын
I do this all the time in diamond league , you'd be surprised how often it works
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