Sorry to hear about the returning symptoms. Hang in there friend, don't let the frustration weigh you down too much. I'm hoping the best for you.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pablo. I'm trying to remain positive, but it certainly is tough. Hearing from you guys on here really helps so thanks again for your support!!!!! :)
@IvanBFit
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc. I can't thank you enough for being so honest and open about the situation. Mine comes and goes and today, it's flared up. For me, the symptom is mild numbness that comes and goes and just a general tight feeling in my arm pit area. It's so frustrating and I needed to see this video today. Stay positive. I have taken a different view in that I've simply accepted the fact that this is going to be a long-term thing more than likely. It comes and goes. I feel it's gotten better, but mainly from learning the do's and don'ts of what triggers and what doesn't. But it's so frustrating when it does get triggered. It's crazy b/c there are weeks where I don't even feel it and it's fine. But that's usually when I haven't triggered it and it's probably rested and not irritated. I've even actually developed a weight lifting routine that doesn't seem to bother it. Now every now and then, I'll test some suspect movements and then when it triggers it, I learn. For me, I simply can't do any chest pressing movements and I can't do high reps. So I've been doing 5-8 reps per exercise of mainly rowing, side DB raises, back flys, leg workouts, core and even close-grip underhand lat pulldowns or chin-ups. Surprisingly, those don't bother it too much if I keep the reps low. I occasionally do bicep curls and tricep pressdowns but I follow your rule of not going past 90 degrees and it does work. But for me, I simply can't go high reps b/c it tends to tighten up the muscles surrounding the nerve, which seems to inevitably compress it. But nonetheless, I've still managed to attain really good results training around the issue- kzitem.info/news/bejne/pKmq34GJin-UpKA Anyway, best of luck. You are the most informative person on this matter I've come across and your vids are very helpful. Thanks man. Btw, I liked your rant at the end. I completely agree with you.
@MDub808
7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ivan, glad you're finding ways around it and thanks for the support. Your condition sounds exactly like my left arm is now. Exercise doesn't seem to bother it too much, and there are weeks that go by that it feels good, but then there are other times where it flares up and is quite annoying. One thing tip I might recommend is try doing your pressing movements with a narrower grip (maybe shoulder width or slightly beyond shoulder width). I've found that benching like this, more in the form a powerlifter would use, allows me to work my chest without irritating my ulnar nerve too badly. You can also try decline presses because of their limited range of motion (make sure you're lowering the bar to below your chest, top of your abdomen area), seem to not irritate the ulnar nerve as much. On the other hand, I've noticed that incline movements irritate the nerve the most because the further your arms are towards overhead, the more of a stretch and therefore stress there is on the nerve. Try these and see if you can start getting some pressing movements back into your routine. Let me know how it goes. aloha! Marc
@rizwanqureshi5745
4 ай бұрын
Hey how are you dealing now with your ulna never injury?
@IvanBFit
4 ай бұрын
@@rizwanqureshi5745 It's gotten much better over time. Seemed like getting fitter and stronger both improved things. Still do flossing and stretches as needed.
@denverh4288
8 жыл бұрын
hey marc great video again so hats off to you again for your honesty in this shitty situation, it would be so easy to say well screw it I'm just not bothering with you tube,I'm really pleased you are still posting an giving us all this insight to the pros an cons of it all.if ever there was a person who portrayed a pissed off an down beat person this video shows him. man I feel for you, but chin up you got lots of people in similar situations like you so keep the faith an one day we will all be out of this anyway ill keep it short I had my surgery june 30th dr bed side manner sucks but I just hope his work is better than his approach he did the surgery and I never saw him again he was off on his toes which annoys me but not the end of the world anyway that's it so been in rough shape since then as you can imagine with tendon work and nerve transposition and elbow debridement I have a 5" scar which is healing ok with proper stitches which I have out 2 weeks after surgery with him.yet when I called the surgical place they tell me hes away on holiday so go to your own doctor but he will be back to see me at end of month. like really you shitting me or what so my doctors on Friday to take the stitches out which is ok but I wanted to know he thought surgery went and what he did exactly so I cant comment more other than its painful at min and physio starts in 6 weeks from surgery date so trust me I feel your frustration but for other reasons ok well hang in there man tat tar for now
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Denver, can't believe the doc that did the surgery is going to send you to another doc to get your stitches out!? That's crazy!! How are your symptoms? The numbness in your fingers, etc? Hopefully you're feeling pretty good by this time and don't let my situation discourage you. More than likely you're going to have a simple, straightforward recovery and be feeling 100% in no time! Just take it slow when resuming activity. I think that is a big key. Even if you feel good, take it slower than you think you have to. Seriously though, can't believe your doc just took holiday and left you hanging without even taking your surgery into consideration. Hope you're feeling better man and thanks so much for taking the time to write some encouraging words. For you to do that just after getting your surgery in your condition, means a lot. I appreciate all your support my friend. Get better and let me know how your recovery is going. aloha! Marc
@saesang352
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc, keep your head up man! I'm about 7 weeks post op and I had a similar thing happen to me but only for a day. I was screwing in a floodlight to the wall outside of my house, and the next day the shooting pain came back. I called my doctor's physician and she told me it's completely normal. The nerve is still extremely sensitive and depending on how many years you've had Cubital TS, it will take at least 6 months for it to drastically make a difference (your nerve heals 1 or 2 mm a day). I would also ice it after you do any activity (that's what they have me do at physical therapy anyway and it seems to keep it from flaring up). Also, I can totally relate to your story at Costco. My family runs a business (nails and wigs) that's generally targeted in lower income neighborhoods (everyone is on welfare basically). We make the most money on the 1st and 14th, and quadruple during tax return season. And whenever a new pair of Michael Jordan shoes come out, the shoe store next to us has a line about 500 people out the door lol.. They are about $200-250 a pair. So if you've ever wondered where our tax money goes, there you go.. Always wonder why the government doesn't support people like us who need surgery to get back to being productive members of society.. And they would make money off us paying taxes, imagine that! Anyways hope you get better man, your videos have helped me so much. Justin
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, thanks for sharing your story. Your situation does sound very similar to mine. I guess the thing that threw me was I was symptom free pretty much right after surgery. I felt great at 1 week post op. Pretty much normal outside of some tightness around the incision. I would have thought that it would take 3 months for my symptoms to fade, not reappear. Really hope that its as you said, and its just healing very slow and not found some new spot of compression or irritation. By the way, did you have a subcutaneous transposition as well? Also, where does the PT have you icing after activity? Any tightness in your elbow still? Thanks again for the support. It's hard to stay positive, but reading your story has really helped me feel better in that just knowing that I'm not alone with this. Oh, and I definitely agree about support while unable to work. My doc would only give me short term disability after my surgery during the healing time. I thought that was insane as I was much better to work at that point, rather than the year leading up to it when I was in constant pain and numbness. Drives me crazy that there are people like you and I that suffer and get no help, but there's tons of people that don't need any helps bleeding the system dry. I truly can't wait till I can work again so I don't' have to worry about any of this. I don't even have to make much money, just be able to work a normal job at a computer like any other normal person. Thanks again for sharing. Hope you are doing better and please let me know how your recovery goes. aloha!
@saesang352
8 жыл бұрын
I had subcutaneous transposition as well. At PT they usually put a heatpad on my elbow, then do exercises/stretches, then ice right on the elbow. My elbow still has some tightness and sensitivity, it tires out really easily doing the exercises. Right now, if I push my finger into the new location of the nerve I still get a jolt, but it's definitely better than my left arm now. I totally know what you mean about the short term disability. Exact same situation here. I'm getting benefits now after my surgery, but the time I took off in worse pain before the surgery I get no benefits haha. Makes absolutely no sense. But yea stay positive man! Maybe try wearing a towel on your arm before you sleep to keep it straight? I still do that on my left, and right sometimes if it feels sore. Take care man and looking forward to your progress as well, Justin
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hope yours continues to improve. I can definitely relate as if I touch the new position of the nerve I get all kinds of tingling. As I wait to see the doc I'm trying not to type or mouse on the computer too much as this definitely gets mine tingly, hoping it will get better if I take it easy. We'll see what the doc says and maybe now he'll finally prescribe me some PT as well. Thanks again and hope all is well. :)
@brianjohnson0926
8 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear it man, but I have had the same experience...last couple weeks have been rough, but I did go in to see the surgeon. I had my surgery on March 4, 2016, so my recovery process is just a wee bit ahead of yours. She said that this kind of pain is more common with carpel tunnel, but does happen in rare instances with cubital tunnel. She said that it can happen when the nerve starts regenerating. I am going to be going to a CHT for some nerve desensitization work on the arm. I would definitely recommend going to your doctor, but I think this is part of the process when you've had the injury as long as you have. I pinched mine about 7 years ago, which I think is about the same timeframe you've experienced issues. I almost posted a comment to your channel asking if you'd been experiencing symptoms again... Stay positive man!
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian. I really hope that is the case with mine. Hoping its just irritated for the moment but not compressed or kinked anywhere that's causing new symptoms. At the same time, preparing myself mentally that revision surgery might be a possibility, but just taking it one day at a time now. Thanks again for sharing your story and for your words of encouragement. I'm thankful there is KZitem to allow us in similar situations to connect and support one another. Thanks again and I hope you are doing well my friend. aloha! :)
@Tango2437
8 жыл бұрын
Hey man, following your series on this issue as well as some other folks here on youtube. Been struggling with this for a year and a half now and looks like surgery might be the only resort to fix this. I appreciate you keeping us up to date with your recovery journey. How is everything now? I know you mentioned you would meet with your surgeon to see what was going on with the elbow. Hopefully it's just a a minor hiccup that can be resolved with time! Stay strong!
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Tango, sorry to hear you are dealing with this, but you're not alone! In case you didn't see it, here is the latest update: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqF242coXOKooo Hope you're doing well. :)
@jasonfernandes4932
8 жыл бұрын
Marc, I've watched many of your videos and want to say hang in there and be resilient. Easier said than done, but don't get too down about the whole situation. Modern day surgery is advancing, but the healing of nerves takes time, some ppl are faster than others. I can imagine that subcutaneous rerouting of the ulnar nerve would not have better vasculature to nourish the nerve versus the procedure under the muscle. Don't worry though, with enough time to recover, either method will establish collateral circulation, just under the muscle probably being a little faster. The nerve needs blood which carries the nutrients the nerve needs to heal. Plus, I can imagine that if you were to analyze the anatomy of the nerve under a microscope, you would identify blood vessels so small that just one blood cell can pass through sequentially (e.g., capillaries). Basically the width of the capillaries being just wide enough for a blood vessel. Maybe your nerve needs to establish a collateral circulation, through angiogenesis (Formation of new blood vessels). Think about the eye, when your tired, tons of microscopic vessels appear; this process is happening for your ulnar nerve. Unlike other tissues of the body, nerves are slow to heal. Unlike muscle, nerves have a different chemical makeup and structure (i.e., Oligodendrocyte). Oligodendrocytes are a component to nerves; they are comprised of 80% lipid and 20% protein thus making a lipoprotin. I can imagine that the affinity for nutrients (Mostly amino acids) is not as strong for nerves as it is for muscle. This being why nerves are slower to regenerate. Either way, you should see the MD that did your procedure and consult with a highly specialized surgeon via telephone or video conference (e.g., FaceTime, Skype). I came across a post on www.cubital-tunnel.com/cms/Surgery/3006-Best-Ulnar-Nerve-Surgeons-in-the-country/Page-2.html describing Dr. MacKinnon a nerve surgeon. Her group appears strong with robust credentials. Consider other institutions for peripheral nerve surgery (e.g., Johns Hopkins, Mayo Clinic, Cleveland clinic, Mass General Hospital, etc.) and get second, or third opinions. You should consider seeing a hand surgeon, most of them are not only general orthopedic surgeons (Sometimes plastic surgeons), but they have gone through extensive fellowship training to understand the pathologies that affect the hand up to the shoulder and beyond. Hand surgery fellowships are extremely competitive and recruit the best orthopedic surgeons and plastic surgeons in the nation. Often the fellowship trained physicians are professors of medicine and perform research (i.e., Type-A doctors). Just research the procedures enough to feel confident you found the right MD. Ask them to walk you through the procedure step-by-step. What I mentioned is a little overkill, but I just want to see that you get your issue fixed. Personally, I try to find the best subspecialist MDs for all my subspecialty issues. I'm not an MD so this should not substitute for medical advice, it is simply for informal purposes. Good luck, keep us posted, and stay positive about it all.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Wow Jason, thanks for all the info!! I did meet with quite a few surgeons before having it done. It was near impossible to get a consensus for the best procedure to address my cubital tunnel, but I was very comfortable with Dr. Azari at UCLA Medical Center. (Interestingly I found him from a Castle Connely Top Doctor list.) He definitely knows his stuff, but unfortunately every patient is different and everyone heals at different rates. I'm hoping the nerve is just irritated and needs to calm down to start healing again, but the thing I find strange about it is all my symptoms went away immediately after the surgery. At a week post op, I felt totally normal outside of some stiffness still around the incision. Just weird that it would come back 3 months after. Seems like it should be 3 months after that the symptoms fade, not reappear. Oh well, we'll see. I got an appointment to see him in two weeks. Hopefully he has some encouraging news for me. Thanks for all the helpful advice and support. Its great to be able to receive positive and supportive comments like the one left. Thanks again and hope you're doing well!
@jasonfernandes4932
8 жыл бұрын
I am glad to share some insightful information. He has a lot of accolades and is likely one of the best surgeons in the nation. As you have mentioned, every patient is different. We have a saying in medicine for any questions professors answer, "it depends on the patient." Maybe the vibration from the lawnmower mobilized the nerve and is causing you some issues. Also, in the intensive care unit, I tell my patients that many times healing can be like taking 3 steps forward and 2 steps back. Also, try not to focus so much on the issue. You would be amazed how much patients can trip themselves out with psychosomatic symptoms. For example, a patient of mine in his 20's went walking a few miles the other day, sat on a bench and noticed the bottom of his feet were tingly; he acknowledged he's perfectly healthy. When people have issues, especially ones in which can be concerning, they tend to be much more cognoscente of every minute detail. I feel very optimistic you are going to get your situation resolved and be free of tingling and numbness; it may take some time, but with the right guidance of the MD and time you will heal. Stay optimistic, calm your fears, and keep us posted!
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
I really hope that's the case that its just taking a few steps back, but is still going to heal up. In any event, I see him in a little over a week so we'll see how that goes. Thanks again for all the advice and support. :)
@martyedney3308
8 жыл бұрын
Stay positive. I had numbness come back 7 months post op. I was freaking out. It did settle after a while. It takes a long time to heal. I am 11 months post op and my finger numbness is not happening now. I was contemplating having to do sub muscular as I was a subcutaneous also. I know exactly the ups and downs you are feeling. I am bilateral too.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Marty, thanks so much for your words of encouragement!! I'm so glad to hear you are doing better and not getting the numbness anymore. You don't know how much it lifts my spirits to read those words!!! Did you already have both of yours done? Did they both heal the same (numbness came and went post surgery)? Hope you continue to improve with each passing day. Thanks again for the support and encouragement. Honestly, you guys don't know how much it helps lift my spirt. mahalo!!! Marc
@martyedney3308
8 жыл бұрын
+Marc W. Hi Marc. Thank you for your good vibes too! I haven't had surgery on my other arm yet as I was waiting to see how my first went after transposition. The issues that occurred at 7 month happened at a time when I was gearing up to go back to my surgeon and take the plunge on the other arm. I have always been very resistant to surgery however I could not let my left (operated side) go any longer when I opted for surgery. It was an act of last resort for me as I was scared of this surgery. The surgery and recovery for me were ok. My symptoms were gone after surgery so I was really upset when numbness at 7 months. My main issue after surgery was the hypersensitivity in my elbow and weakness.This resolved after 5 months approx. I had a carpal tunnel release also so my hand was weak for many months. It isn't now. I hope this settles for you soon. Best wishes.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Marty, just wanted to see how you're doing? Has the numbness that reoccurred resolved itself? Not sure if you saw my update but here's a link: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqF242coXOKooo It's possible you could have something similar going on so I figured I'd share just so you know what's going on with my arm. Hope you're doing better. aloha! :)
@martyedney3308
8 жыл бұрын
+Marc W. Hi Marc. My numbness has resolved itself. I just watched your updated video and am sorry to hear the nerve is still subluxing. I was worried this was happening too however it turned out not to be the case. I understand how disheartened you must have felt when told you need another surgery. For what it is worth, I would do a revision before I did the other although it depends how bad the other is. I really hope we can all put this condition behind us sometime in the near future. Take care. :)
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
I hope so too Marty. And glad yours resolved itself!!! Hope you're doing well!! :)
@wasimz3431
3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I wish you are ok by now. I have the ulnar nerve neuropathy and entrapment. Waiting for operation
@taytimhong6175
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Marc Thank you for your videos, all were very informative and beneficial. Thank you for being truthful about everything. It is week 10 post surgery of bilateral transposition surgery. I have good recovery on my right but I am still experiencing numbness on my left hand although the numbness wasnt as bad as pre surgery but the numbness that dont seems to go away is making me worried. Went for week 10 post surgery review and did emg and nerve conduction test, nct shows there is no compression, while emg show evidence of chronic ulnar nerve neuropathy. My surgeon told me that there is no compression and no damage was done during surgery as for the nerve neuropathy he did not give further explanation and just said it should go away as my nerve healed. But I am still worried and not sure what I should do next. Any advise?
@SorePalms
9 ай бұрын
Me too how are you now!!!!
@jyabha
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc, just thought I'd share.... (fyi I'm dealing with CuTS/subluxation too) I recently consulted with two different orthopedic surgeons, one recommended facial sling to hold the nerve on subcutaneous transpositions, the other said he won't do that surgery with a sling. The reasoning he used was that he's seen where once the region heals, apparently the fascia tissue can tighten, constricting over the nerve and be a point of compression resulting in symptoms. I had never heard this before and I'm not saying this is the case for you, but it may be something to discuss with your doctor or specialist.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this Pablo. It has definitely helped me in considering my next steps. I appreciate the helpful feedback and support and hope you are doing well. :)
@gohime7290
8 жыл бұрын
Keep strong man, in the exact same boat as yourself, had a surgery which turned out to be unsuccessful for subluxation in my right arm and its really taking its toll on me emotionally, any chance i could talk to you like private message to talk about stuff like snapping triceps ect?
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I'm hoping I just irritated it and now its very temperamental, but I think there is a strong likelihood that something from the original surgery has become a new irritant or site of compression. Feel free to email me directly at marcwaltes808@gmail.com. All I can say, is I sympathize with what you're going through. I truly do. aloha :)
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Go hime, did yours continue to subluxate after surfer? That's what's going on with me: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqF242coXOKooo
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, my hard drive went so that's been keeping me from uploading an update vid. Working on getting it fixed. Will let you know how everything is going after I do. Thanks again for all the comments and support!!!
@hipnola
8 жыл бұрын
My nerve started getting extremely irritated and tingly. So I went to see my active release technique therapist (which is expensive as fuck btw) and the next day it was even more irritated. But the following day it was hardly even tingly. He also applied some KT tape over the cubical tunnel which he said, it lifts the fascial skin and promotes healing, so I'm assuming it's helping keep it not as irritated. I also have been doing nerve glides twice a day and took three days off of the gym and it seems to be feeling better. He also didn't just apply the KT tape, he also used the ART technique.
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Glad you're feeling better Ryan!! Have you previously had surgery, or the nerve is just starting to get irritated with you for the first time?
@hipnola
8 жыл бұрын
+Marc W. Started to get irritated about 3 months ago. It started getting really bad, that's why I went to see him. There's still tingling, but not nearly as bad
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Glad its helping. I tried just about everything in terms of conservative treatment, but unfortunately none of it worked...although I'm not sure surgery did either now. hahaha :/
@rubiesshadow
8 жыл бұрын
Hopefully you'll get your answer at your drs appointment :/ something definitely is wrong. I had both surgeries done(idk if you remember me) and my subcutaneous surgery didn't fix it over time. But my sub muscular is doing great (so far), I had full range of motions a couple weeks after surgery. It feels so much better than my subcutaneous surgery. But there was also other stuff wrong with my arm that they fixed. If you DO have to get the sub muscular surgery, I hope it goes the way mine is (so far).
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rubie. I hope I can get some answers and I really hope that its just become irritated from something and will eventually start getting better again. It was perfectly fine until I did some yard work that day so I guess its possible it just became irritated but not sure why that should even irritate it if it was fine before. Really hope I don't have to get it done again, but I'm already preparing myself mentally for that to be the case. Then I get to do my left arm. The fun never stops!! hahaha Glad to hear you're doing well. Its encouraging for me to hear stories like yours. Thank you. :)
@jamieplowman123
8 жыл бұрын
hi mark I have a ganglion cyst right over the ulnar nerve in my wrist that also causes pain in elbow my theory is its making the nerve tighter basically what I want to say is the problem might not be from the elbow
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie, very true! I met with my surgeon and while he seems to think its coming from the nerve sublimating back to its original spot, it can also be coming from compression in the wrist. Is your hand primarily numb on the pinky side of your palm? More so than in your fingers and back of the hand? Just curious as that was something my surgeon was telling me about with ulnar compression at the wrist. I talk about what he said in the latest update: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqF242coXOKooo Thanks again for sharing your insight and hope you are doing better!
@saesang352
8 жыл бұрын
hi marc, just wondering how your appointment went? did you figure out what was going on? hope you got better man. -justin
@MDub808
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Justin, not sure if you saw, but here's the latest: kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqqF242coXOKooo
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