I found your video interesting, and it's good to know your conclusions on realistic sounds, volumes and standardization are generally the same as mine, except I use Zimo decoders. I do not use computer control but the way I have set my Zimo decoders also suits what you needed. I am not suggesting you change brands, just ended up with a similar result.
@dattouk
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry, Its reassuring to find someone else with the same motives. We also did one more thing recently which was to bypass the diesel startup sounds (which can be still heard if the shift key was on). That avoids waiting for 30 seconds if a loco shorted on a point to get going again.
@terryflynn8830
2 жыл бұрын
@@dattouk I mostly run steam and set the sound on as the default. On diesels I have it the conventional way, sound off as the default. Most of my locomotives have storage capacitors, and this solves the problem of sound turning off, but in my the case the model will continue to run and derail, like the prototype. That's OK for my non computerized walk around style layout because I have working interlocked signals to protect my mainline turnouts and drivers are instructed to stop if the signal is at danger.
@warrenpamment
4 жыл бұрын
You can do that on the Hornby rail master software set a shunt speed or top-end speed and change the value to adjust speed for different locos
@THEINSANESOCIETY
4 жыл бұрын
As a former sound engineer, I found this video very informative. At model shows, I have to admit to not being impressed with DCC sound. I saw a TMD with about six diesels all running and to my ears, the sound was awful, but here you have demonstrated how to rectify the situation. This may appear a silly question, but how loud can the speakers in diesels perform? Paul
@dattouk
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the late reply. I must have missed this earlier. Very loud is the human answer. Sometimes too loud. I can't give you a technical response in terms of decibels.
@JohnPW22
6 жыл бұрын
You are discussing here very important questions for getting more realism with automation! Which chips are you using for your customised sounds? Thanks!
@dattouk
6 жыл бұрын
We standardised some time ago on the ESU V4 family of LokSound and LokPilot for a number of reasons. Those being: access to a vendor with good UK sounds (Bryan R), a good programming interface (LokProgrammer), a reliable chip design that comes in different sizes (micro, standard) and covers the mix of connection interfaces (NEM 652, 651, PLuX etc.).
@JohnPW22
6 жыл бұрын
Many thanks, that's very useful. Cheers!
@donsharpe5786
4 жыл бұрын
I am still not convinced that the sounds produced by speakers in either the tender or the engine sounds like a steam engine. The closest I have heard is that of the West Country, which has a light breathy noise. None of the sounds I have heard sounds like the bark of a hard working engine. Until there is the ability to produce a realistic sound, I don't think I will bother. It is interesting to see the complexities of trying to produce realistic sounds. If you as experts have to fiddle you programs, what hope do us mere mortals have!
@HeavensGremlin
3 жыл бұрын
A fascinating model railway. I'm aiming to build a system using a very similar computer-controlled system. Several points; 1. The steam loco on the rollers in your video did not have the sound and motion synchronised. Has a general solution to this problem been found now....? 2. These days - chips are generally cheap, so why oh why are they still retailing at around £100 each...? I have over three hundred locos that I want to chip - that would be £30,000. This is nonsense in this day and age... The HAS to be a way of reducing this insane cost, surely...? 3. Whilst generally, the diesel sounds are reasonably portrayed, the offerings for steam are still pretty-much abysmal. All treble and no bass, with, as above, usually no real synchronisation with the actual motion - so the 'beat' is totally wrong. Part of the problem is that 4mm steam locos have very little space inside them. What about other sounds..? What about static systems with loco-following via Track Detection...? What about putting some sound into rolling stock, as there is much more space for bigger speakers etc....?
@dattouk
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with your project. 1. The chuff sync is done in the chip using a CV. We just have to remember to do it. 2. I agree. I am surprised the prices have held up. I heard of someone who set up a business and bought in bulk. 3. Its a limitation I am happy to live with and we have so many locos moving, designing a sound system to keep in sync with 20 locos all in one room would be a real mission that I have no idea how to solve. With sound on McKinley, the idea is to give a sense. We also are installing static local sounds such as bridge rumble. With so many models making sound, we keep the volumes low until they move. I have friends who have hacked out 50% of a diesel loco chassis and removed the PCB to install speakers with better base response. As we have so many locos I don't want to start going there. It's all about choices and compromises I suppose. Thanks for your feedback.
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