That cornet is respectively a piece of history, right in front of us. it has stories to tell, but sadly it cannot speak as it only *d o o t s .*
@bikkies
3 жыл бұрын
I'd forgotten all about this video. I love vintage instruments like these. It's a testament to the manufacturer and subsequent owners' care and maintenance that it remains endearing and beautiful to the ear. These are little works of exquisite art and it's a pleasure to see them giving enjoyment in the hands of a competent player, able to help us appreciate it for what it was and still is.
@blackpoolram
6 жыл бұрын
Clearly still in "high pitch". I remember the kerfuffle in the 1960's when all existing brass instruments had their little extra bits of tubing added!
@douglasfur3808
6 жыл бұрын
"Prototype" as in the standard all other manufacturers try to match. "Quite possibly the most beautiful melody ever written".
@harrysemple9770
6 жыл бұрын
I play sop in a brass band and love it. Great video!
@nikomitrione
6 жыл бұрын
I want episode three of you fixing the 1926 Bb tuba! I really enjoy that series!
@hunniemaxandtheirhumantoo3351
6 жыл бұрын
I love the sop, it used to be my favourite instrument to play
@kendrickpereira37
5 жыл бұрын
I have recently acquired a Besson & Co "Prototype" tenor horn so I think "Prototype" is a model name or series name.
@tomkent4656
5 жыл бұрын
Lovely tone.
@christophercox303
6 жыл бұрын
My Besson cornet from the same time period has "prototype" written on it as well. Mine also has all of the pipes to play in different keys. I also have compression issues with my valves.
@anime_jesu5265
4 жыл бұрын
This man deserves more views and subs. Not gonna lie.
@HaliPuppeh
5 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful sound on that soprano.
@Alrik.
6 жыл бұрын
Great playing!
@HugoMak
6 жыл бұрын
Is the cornet in high pitch? Sounds almost as if it's pitched in E natural
@The4MusketeersYT
3 жыл бұрын
E flat i believe
@ScottLewis901
6 жыл бұрын
Lovely sound. If you ever get to western Colorado (it sounds like another state and thinks it is totally separate from Denver and Colorado Springs) come by and play music with the community band here:)
@tubaboydany5020
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trent, I wanna say that I have band auditions tomorrow to see what middle school band I will be in in eighth grade and despite the fact that my director said I'd be section leader for sure, I'm still pretty scared but I just wanna say that watching your videos has helped me get a better understanding of musical instruments so thank you.
@xavierhernandez4467
6 жыл бұрын
Happy birthyear Cornet 😁
@richardgordon8110
6 жыл бұрын
I betcha It plays SWEET!!!
@nickcelestino
6 жыл бұрын
You can definitely hear the somewhat fussiness in the tone because of the the valves but it kind of gives it a nice mellow tone, almost like a flugelhorn
@pss3546
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Trent, txs for the good work. Nice cornet. 'Prototype' models were a publicity stunt, the wording means nothing special, only that they would find the nicest tubing sections arrangements out of a group of other tubing sections (mathematically 'proven' to produce the best sounding instruments), call it a 'Prototype' and reproduce it in the most exact way (by early XX century standards...).
@tentativebababoey1796
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I have a tuba mouthpiece from them around the same time and it also says prototype.
@brokenwrench1
6 жыл бұрын
many horn builders of the day hand built prototypes to prove a concept or prefect the production methods some did not have plated valves mainly display models for shows and not made for the long haul. some would be sent to top players who wrote a report on the horn. this horn might have been made to introduce the e flat keyed horn. or a new design. if you invested in a valve job and coated them with Monel and lapped in you would have a much better playing horn.
@edstud1
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds nice!
@pascaldijkhuizen6600
6 жыл бұрын
Do you play an Eb cornet with the same grips as an Bb trumpet?
@callumkelleher2640
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Trent. I'm new to.your channel, but have watched quite a lot of your videos and have enjoyed them! I have been playing trumpet for 7 years and am thinking of taking up the Flugelhorn as a second instrument. Is there any chance you could make a video of the "pros and cons" of playing the Flugelhorn. Thank you
@TracksWithDax
6 жыл бұрын
There are cons???
@MarkiusFox
6 жыл бұрын
I'm actually curious if you plan to do a special piece this year to commemorate the centennial Armistice Day.
@jonathantitterton9455
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trent, I've been a follower for sometime now and I've got a Besson and Co Prototype Type A Bb Baritone Horn from the same time. I can happily send you a video of it and playing a piece (please bare in mind I'm ungraded and playing in a 4th section band, so I won't be like Brighouse standard :P )
@alfredagatucci2674
6 жыл бұрын
And yeah that is high pitch. It would need a new lead pipe to play anywhere today
@charliet.4756
6 жыл бұрын
Cool Trent
@leslieq958
Жыл бұрын
Could the unique lyre holder be an add-on?
@RedstoneManiac13
6 жыл бұрын
Old background? OwO
@MrSuperCoen
6 жыл бұрын
you can still buy these holders today
@blakefuruike3879
6 жыл бұрын
Trent do u have a cimbasso?
@mlgssj763
6 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between a cornet and a flugelhorn? Is the flugel to the cornet what the cornet is to a trumpet?
@mlgssj763
6 жыл бұрын
Luke Payne I mean sound wise not appearance
@biguglyalex
6 жыл бұрын
you see em' in jazz pieces pretty often too.
@biguglyalex
6 жыл бұрын
Luke Payne you never listened to any chuck mangione? We had one in jazz band back in high school too.
@mal2ksc
6 жыл бұрын
Let me play you the song of Mega-Lo Mart. mal-2.bandcamp.com/track/jacquinqui Same "band": mal-2.bandcamp.com/track/labrat-love
@colinchan7199
6 жыл бұрын
He starts playing it at 4:43
@brianwolle2509
4 жыл бұрын
i have an even older besson in Bb, silver also. third valve messed up but otherwise ok.
@Forestman000
5 ай бұрын
I own a cornet from 1908 :)
@professorseverustobiassnap1566
6 жыл бұрын
Hello what's up Trent.
@thejustintung
6 жыл бұрын
The Swan by Saint-Saëns!
@alfredagatucci2674
6 жыл бұрын
The valves need plated the compression is terrible. But it's cute. In the USA brass bands usually use an Eb trumpet...better intonation and projection
@EnglishTMTB
6 жыл бұрын
"Better intonation" depends on what Eb Soprano cornets happen to be available... most of the serious modern soprano cornets (Eclipse, Stomvi, Schilke - if you get a good one, Yamaha Neo) have tuning that's atleast on a par with the better Eb trumpets. And Eb trumpet projection simply does not fit properly in a brass band - yes, they project more, but that isn't always an advantage (and case in point, it's often NOT an advantage in a brass band to project too much... and especially so on sop).
@alfredagatucci2674
6 жыл бұрын
EnglishTMTB good points. There is always a trade-off. I'm sure some modern Eb cornets are better.
@alfredagatucci2674
6 жыл бұрын
Some slide pulls would help but that would destroy the integrity of an old instrument
@EnglishTMTB
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely there's a trade-off (same with everything though in fairness, particularly mouthpieces). Certainly the best of the modern Eb cornets (Eclipse, Blackburn, Stomvi) stand up to any Eb trumpet where intonation is concerned - and they project more than well enough to be heard through some very loud bands indeed. There's definitely a different approach in American and British bands - different sounds, different attitudes... American brass band cornet players tend to be trumpet players primarily, where in the UK you'll find scores of very serious cornet players willing to pick up a trumpet where necessary - I suppose it's understandable that trumpet players might favour an Eb trumpet they're somewhat familiar with to an Eb cornet they don't... having said that, this is kinda why even the best american brass bands just don't *quite* get the essence of the british style - sometimes to their credit, usually not.
@EnglishTMTB
6 жыл бұрын
And yes, pulling the slides a smidge would get it to play more in tune with modern bands... but the whole design (along with which mouthpieces work with it, etc) belongs to a very different era - even if you could get it in tune, the tone is simply different, those old bands had brighter, crisper tones with less weight behind them than modern brass bands do (a different approach and result again).
@MOON_BOYS
6 жыл бұрын
I got one from the year 1875...
@5naxalotl
6 жыл бұрын
prototype is a model name. besson/boosey (boosey acquired besson) model history is relatively comprehensive on the interwebs. brass valves do not have "compression" like a car. they have seal or lack of it. yes the condition is astonishing
@claudioantonio1367
6 жыл бұрын
What music is this you play? 4:43
@Xzyum00
6 жыл бұрын
definitely Camille Saint-Saëns's "The Swan"
@adozeasmusico5286
6 жыл бұрын
emocionante
@frankierodriguez9729
6 жыл бұрын
Why does he transpose it like an Alto sax?
@deanwise7956
6 жыл бұрын
Both instruments are pitched in e flat
@dantelotte8681
6 жыл бұрын
Intro song?
@ramesesorona3336
6 жыл бұрын
sup fam
@Metal-Possum
6 жыл бұрын
You can get relatively thick valve oil to compensate for the wear in older instruments. Maybe keeping a bottle or two around for any older stuff you acquire would have its merits.
@5naxalotl
6 жыл бұрын
Alex Paulsen i'm wondering if people have tried coating an old valve with epoxy etc and grinding it back to original dimensions
@EnglishTMTB
6 жыл бұрын
You *can* use thick valve oil, but it's only really papering over the cracks... and it's only useful up to a point anyway. Having said that - if you want to know whether it's worth having the valves rebuilt, playing it with thicker oil would give you a good idea of the improvement you can expect in the playing characteristics.
@5naxalotl
6 жыл бұрын
so i poked around the internet and found out that there are many people doing valve rebuilds ... expensive but the restoration can be better than new. i'm surprised trent never mentions this. his attitude seems to be oh well this instrument has reached the end of its life
@mal2ksc
6 жыл бұрын
I don't see why valve clusters _can't_ be overbored and sleeved. I'd say that was part of the plan when they were first developed, but the lifespan turned out to be so long that most people never bothered.
@EnglishTMTB
6 жыл бұрын
Scott Sakurai I don't see why not, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's not a reason - maybe it played different, maybe the extra cost was seen as not worth it... Maybe what we have is simply considered more than sufficient lifespan for most instruments and easily enough repaired for the minority that ever exceed that whilst still valued enough by their owners to be repaired?
@tammywitt7929
4 жыл бұрын
Trombone fan 56(Caleb.Witt) Trent Hamilton you have a lot of musical instruments can you give me a cornet and a trumpet. 🎺😀
@goldenarrow5196
6 жыл бұрын
Noice
@hgpatton9945
6 жыл бұрын
I've played one of those& is that a Yamaha
@chrisdrybread8142
6 жыл бұрын
Hgpatton 99 it’s a boosey - besson
@extraspice6643
6 жыл бұрын
Long lost descendant of Alexander Hamilton?
@sealfoam6841
6 жыл бұрын
Beautifull music fam...i want to die still tho
@sullygarrison7932
6 жыл бұрын
Last
@nerfkid5084
6 жыл бұрын
First
@StaleSlack
6 жыл бұрын
Nerf Kid Pateron supports are first, sorry.
@Producedbydray
6 жыл бұрын
I'm the first dislike😂
@greasyllama5562
6 жыл бұрын
It almost sounds a half step above an Eb Soprano, is this built in High pitch?
@philipdai8682
6 жыл бұрын
I agree. It is definitely in E major.
@philipdai8682
6 жыл бұрын
E F# G# A B C# D# E, right?
@greasyllama5562
6 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, but the cornet itself was built in a higher pitch. The key sig is correct, but it sounds higher, probably a=443 or something like that
@TheJH1015
6 жыл бұрын
probably more like a=452 or something if it's really that high
@fesoj1088
6 жыл бұрын
if I remember correctly the old high pitch tuning was A=454
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