I inherited my grandparents 47-1230. It's in climate controlled storage and would love to get it going again someday. Thank you so much for this video showing your work!
@davidbrawn2828
3 жыл бұрын
My grandpa said when he was a boy he used to see more as is philcos than anything. Is that because philco wasn't very reliable.?
@kokupa
Жыл бұрын
i have this same radio. The motor on the turntable stopped working. Also do you carry screws for the turntable? I lost one.
@gavinwb1
7 жыл бұрын
Nice project, Michael. I have a 47-1230 that has a working original dynamic reproducer cartridge on the tone arm. They really do sound great!
@doctorzoloft7587
3 жыл бұрын
Can you use a stereo magnetic cartridge ???
@johnpeet1913
Жыл бұрын
Why not put in a nice vintage BSR Turntable so you can play your old LP’s. You have to add a phono equalizer module between the turntable and the chassis. My 46-1225 really sounds great.
@tubical71
6 жыл бұрын
I´m new to your channel, and already like what you´re doing...:)
@thattubesound2214
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. I try to mix up the radio stuff with a little story telling or goofy commentary. I hope you like cats, because they seem to take over sometimes and are more popular than I am! Thank you for watching and I hope that I continue to post stuff that you like watching. Take care. Michael
@LanceHall
11 ай бұрын
I have an unrestored 41-280.
@chtyan
5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, Hope to see more soon. Thanks
@JamesEncliffe
6 жыл бұрын
Distorted audio is often caused by faulty biassing especially of the output (6V6) tube, because of leaky coupling capacitors. Once you have restuffed them (and the probably dried-up cathode bypass electrolytic, if any), it should clear up :)
@elvisalexander2502
3 жыл бұрын
Hi I have one that need to be work on how can I get it to u
@MrBill844
3 жыл бұрын
I see that you mentioned things that other repair people don't show on You Tube. Check out "mr carlsons lab" he is the ultimate pro in repair & restoration.....
@jamesrussell7488
4 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the older the radio, the better it sounds. I was given an old Zenith from the late 40s back in 1995 as a graduation present from my former boss that was a vintage am radio collector and repairman. I still have the old Zenith but had to replace the power cord being it failed after a lightning storm. The original tube that came with the radio is still humming and working as it should. And older am tube radio seems to sound much better than the digital ones nowadays, sadly my father prefers digital radio over the sound of radio that he grew up with. I guess I'm still old fashioned when it comes to music thru a radio that older than I am
@pcallas66
5 жыл бұрын
My grandmother had one very similar to this except the output tubes were 6K6 tubes.
@jsarch80
3 жыл бұрын
I have a grundig majestic you serviced one. On KZitem. I also have that guy at my dads I wanna bring home. I’m 40 an don’t do electrical but I do like old radios and old music.🤷🏻♂️
@makyhsmakyhs6766
3 жыл бұрын
Please center you face and body inside the video so we can follow the lesson well !
@Rebel9668
7 жыл бұрын
Cool! That 46-480 of my Uncle's has AM/FM & SW as well but no phono. The 48-1262 has AM and phono but no FM or SW so that one looks like a hybrid of those two. Looking forward to this one. Take care, Gary P.S. That chassis except for the phono plug looks identical to the 46-480 one except that the 46 had all loktal and octal tubes. I did that cord alligator clip test to test the voltages in the transformer when I had it removed to make sure they were where they were supposed to be. Some day I'll find a chassis for his 46-480 and get it restored on my own time and take it to him and change it out with the one in his radio now.
@Backtothefutureradios
7 жыл бұрын
Nice project! I just scored a 41-295, even though it is an earlier model, they are similarities. Will be looking forward to the next video! Thanks for sharing. The audio/video was not all that bad. As you know, I have been working to upgrade my process here. There were no parts in your video that was that poor. I know ur next one will be back to ur standard. Keep up the great work! Best--Larry
@nancygomezcortes2532
2 жыл бұрын
Yo tengo una que es pequeña no es esa pero la que yo la tengo es una cuadrada
@opus1952
7 жыл бұрын
Hi ya Michael, great video, love the intrusion from your wife, sounds just like our house! Mine wont listen to me either Ha !
@makyhsmakyhs6766
3 жыл бұрын
Are the original spare parts of the retro vintage radio cabinets are still produced till now in usa and euroup , or provided by the old retro inventory stocks in the old electrics markets, its very vital on case of purchasing a retro audio devices, thanks .
@keninman5260
5 жыл бұрын
I looked through the videos and comment but did not find the answer I need. I have a 47-1230 that I inherited. The AM and Shortwave use to work but someone had removed the phonograph. Since then the Shortwave has also stopped working. I purchased a 47-1227 in rough condition to use its phonograph in the 1230. Since the 1227 does not have buttons I am unsure where to attach the lead from the phono to the 1230 chassis. One shot on Video six (I think) shows the lead coming in but I cannot make out where it goes and I don't have a schematic for the 1230. Could you post a video covering the phono circuit or at least a hint of where it connects. Thanks.
@johnbellas490
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Michael !! Hope you had a GREAT CHRISTMAS !! I was watching this old video, and was wondering If you are O.K. have not seen any new videos in quite a long time! Hope all s well, I really miss your videos!!! John Bellas KC2UVN
@thomasstemmer4767
7 жыл бұрын
cartridges can be and are being rebuilt here. www.west-techservices.com/p1.htm he does good work. not sure if he would advise you how to do the job. one thing he is very hard to get in touch with by phone. i dont do business by email so i had to keep trying till i finally got him. contact him before you send anything and he should be able to advise you if he can fix what you have. i know he also rebuilds the zenith cobramatic cartridges if you ever need one done. he does seem reasonable with his prices.
@Darryl603
7 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great project! Did you win the radio we talked about? Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next...
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
Darryl, Not only did I win the one we spoke about, but I actually bought two ST96 tuners, along with an FM multiplexer from the same series. The one I was looking at was going to need a lot of work, and maybe is not saveable, but the other ST96 is a working unit, as well as the MPX I bought with it. I figure that, even if the first 96 cannot be easily restored, it can donate parts, if needed. Don't worry, I almost never scrap anything! I usually just do what needs to be done to bring even lost causes back. Anyway, I should be getting all of them this week. I'm pretty stoked. Thank you for the advice on auctions. I did exactly as you said, and I got the unit for a great price! Hate the shipping cost, though! Take care, and thanks for watching! Cheers! Michael
@Darryl603
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome job! The radio I recommended was intended for parts for the one you're working on now like the power switch terminal section and a couple knobs among other things. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series since the unit is basically all original.
@tonyperry6702
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, in many of your vids you mention using a thyristor as a means of managing current draw. I’m new to electronics and was wondering how you engineer the circuit and add it to the existing unit. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Happy holidays.
@thattubesound2214
6 жыл бұрын
I use a CL-90 thermistor in most cases. There are probably others that would work, too. You can look at specs on the internet. The thermistor has a low resistance when it's cold, and resistance goes up, the warmer it gets. That's the opposite of how tube filaments behave, so thermistors are useful for reducing the surge current that happens when you first turn a set on. I simply wire one IN SERIES with one side of the line-in. You have to be sure to locate them carefully, because they get quite hot. Even when warm, they usually have 1/2 to 2 ohms of resistance, but that is not enough to really lower line voltage, if you need that, too. For lowering line voltage to about 117, I use a high watt "power resistor". Every radio is different, but I most often wind up with either a 25 ohm 25 watt, or 50 ohm 50 watt. These get plenty toasty, too! Again, put this in series with one side of the line. I don't worry overly much, which side it goes to, but I tend to try to keep it on the hot side. One last thing, please, please, please install a fuse in series with the line-in. These things are all quite old, and even though we restore them, we still leave in many original components. A fuse might just be the thing that saves you from a fire. I use a 1 amp Type 3AG "Slow Blow" for smaller sets, and a 1-1/2 amp for larger sets. On really big sets, like the Scott 800B that I did, I sometimes need a 2 amp. I hope that this helps. Take care. Michael
@ronalddaub5049
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 78 changer exactly like that philco
@NuttyforNissan
7 жыл бұрын
Lol you're the boss.
@willardbelinowicz7786
7 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to you videos, your work is meticulous, when are you going to start that Zenith mono HiFi console you showed some months ago?
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
It's funny you should ask. When I was choosing a project for myself, it was down to the Eico ST70 and that Zenith. I love vintage jazz played on a good mono system, so that one would have been fun, too. It will probably come right after the Eico. I'm changing what I do a little bit. I'm going to continue to do customer radios, much like Jim Lindenas, but I'll also keep something of my own on my bench, too. It should be interesting. Keep your eyes open for the Zenith. It will probably start some time in October. Thank you for subscribing. And, thank you for taking the time to comment! Cheers! Michael
@neccron9956
7 жыл бұрын
If you can, I would like to see how to restore the cabinet itself.
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
I won't be restoring this cabinet, but I am going to be doing a tabletop cabinet, soon. The one that I will be doing is just a rectangular wood box from a 1950s Westinghouse. I'm not terribly skilled with woodwork, yet. Thank you for watching! Take care. Michael
@Rebel9668
7 жыл бұрын
I restored a similar cabinet last year. They aren't very difficult, just time consuming. If no one has refinished them with varnish over the years they strip easily with plain old lacquer thinner. If they have varnish like mine did citrus strip works very well.
@Rebel9668
7 жыл бұрын
Also places like Radiodaze.com are good places to get stuff like reproduction labels for the cabinet as well as felt washers for behind the knobs, reproduction knobs themselves and there's a guy named Chuck Schwark if I remember right that makes full size photo copies of the original schematics at Philcorepiarbench.com I think he charges $7.00 for a set and it's certainly worth it.
@Rollin18Wheeler
5 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 1946 philco yesterday for $100 the guy had it working before we bought it we purchase it from the guy how I hauled it was on the inside of my pickup truck on its side I get it home to my room I had to take it down the basement stairs and it get it plugged in now the record player part will not turn it turned at his house the same day I tried to troubleshoot it I pulled up to look underneath the record player and knows there was a wire that was broken off not sure if that wire is broken off before hands so I think I'm going to have to solder that wire back on as I touch that wire back to where is connected it's still does not record player itself so was will not turn the motor for the record player does turn something in that has to do with something near the motor of the record player now I'm thinking not knowing that the record player was not solidly attached to the unit I'm thinking while flipping out on that side is transporting it mess something up what can I do to fix this problem
@KennethScharf
7 жыл бұрын
There's nothing really wrong with Locktal tubes, except for the fact that they become obsolete so quickly that many type numbers are as rare as hen's teeth. I'm not sure which actually came out first, Loktals or "peanut' tubes, as the very first 7 pin miniatures were called. Miniature tubes were initially developed for the military, I think the '9000' series were the first ones made. Both Locktal and miniature tubes featured glass bases with the pins embedded in the glass. This gave the shortest possible lead length, necessary for VHF work, which is what the 9000 series was intended for. The first 'civilian' part numbers were the 6AK5 and the 6J6, both intended for TV tuners. But the very first 'baseless' leads embedded in glass tubes were the 'Acorn' types. Many of the very first Acorn tubes (900 series ) had 7 pin miniature equals. After WWII, the tube makers abandoned the Loktal design and issued all new types in the miniature format, adding the 9 pin format to the mix ( and the duodectal or compactron 12 pin, and the big base Novar for power types).
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
Kenneth, That's interesting about Loktals. I just guessed that they were developed to be able to stay in the sockets better and to have some shielding at the bottom (like some of the shielded Octals). I figured that they were aimed at portables and other mobile radios (auto, military, etc.). Thank you for the awesome background! I have a basic question for you. The Philco that I am working on uses two 25 MFD electrolytics in the pi filter, with the negatives grounded. My first instinct is to get close with a 22 MFD and a 4.7 MFD paralleled, for each one. But, I worry about the 22 taking most of the load during surges. Then, I thought about 33 MFD caps in each place, but I think that will raise voltages too high and be hard on the rectifier tube by allowing too much surge current at start up. What about a 22 MFD at the first cap (before the field coil) and a 33 at the second position? Or a 22 at the first, and a 22/4.7 in the second? Any thoughts? As always, thank you for watching and for your excellent comments! Take care. Michael
@KennethScharf
7 жыл бұрын
Most electrolytics have wide tolerances, sometimes between 20-80%, and you don't need to hit the exact original value as we're not dealing with a resonant circuit. Modern electrolytics are rated to withstand surge inrush. I'd use either the 22mfd or the 33mfd and not worry about paralleling caps to get an exact value. Either value will work fine. The rectifier tube takes a few seconds to warm up, and that will limit the input surge current to a nice slow ramp up (if you have a solid state storage scope you can see the slow voltage ramp up). I'm guessing that this set uses a field coil speaker, so you need a capacitor input filter to keep the ripple down. So maybe use the 33uf on the input side and the 22uf on the output side. Use caps rated a bit higher in voltage than the originals (due to 'modern' line voltages). IE: if the originals were 350 volt caps, I'd go with 400's or 450's.
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
One last question, Kenneth...Will it hurt to parallel that input, using a 22 and a 4.7? I just realized that I am out of radial 33 MFD and I only have axials. The location I chose makes using radials better.
@KennethScharf
7 жыл бұрын
Paralleling two electrolytic caps with the same voltage rating should be OK. I'd rather not parallel two caps with different voltage ratings. But I bet if you left out that 4.7 you wouldn't notice the difference. Try it without and see what happens.
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a reasonable plan, Kenneth. The terminal strip where I placed the filter caps is easy to reach, so adding the 4.7 if I need to won't be hard. Thanks for the advice, my friend. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers! Michael
@blueribb99
7 жыл бұрын
Spiders never bothered me but roaches do. I opened many console TV's with nests of roaches inside. They make my skin crawl and in most cases I told the customer I wouldn't work on their TV (or radio).
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
2 legs - good 3 to 4 legs - almost always good 5 to 6 legs - usually OK, sometimes bad 7 to 100 legs - always bad Cheers! Michael
@thomasstemmer4767
7 жыл бұрын
roaches dont bite so they are ok for me but hard to get rid of. spiders bite so no good. anything that bites i wont go near them. mice are the worst including dead ones. just discusting. fortunately my roommate used to work for pest control company so i am good to go if i find any pests.
@MrCrystalcranium
4 жыл бұрын
He did warn me about the video quality but oh my God...the last 10 minutes of this video are so difficult to watch. A misplaced camera...minutes of him making a racket off camera rearranging the work bench (why didn't you edit that out?) and eating his lunch through the first 20 minutes...I had to skip to part 2.
@johnsweda2999
7 жыл бұрын
Why can't you use a modern cartridge, what is the output of these cartridges, as you say get a modern cartridge with a higher output and remove the transformer. But you can get low output cartridges even today would be a moving coil type rather expensive. Or what about just resisting the output from a modern cartridge??
@thattubesound2214
7 жыл бұрын
The trouble with a modern cartridge is that this is a 78 rpm player. That means that the stylus needs to be 3 mil, instead of the 0.7 mil of a stylus meant for LPs. 3 mil stylii were never made for the modern units. I thought about some of the other early magnetic cartridges that are out there, but they are mostly expensive. My best bet is to utilize a higher output ceramic with a 78 rpm stylus and eliminate the transformer, as you mention. I installed a different changer in the 46-1209 that I did about a year ago. I installed a ceramic cartridge (P226), which has an output aroung .5 to .7 Volts. All I did there was to remove the transformer. The amplifier output with the phonograph selected was slightly lower than when the radio played, but it was more than acceptable. Thank you for watching and for your ideas! Take care. Michael
@tugboatfool
3 жыл бұрын
You talk way too much just talk about the job dude not all these side stories and junk dude people want info for sure not the long winded stuff that never ends it took you 5 whole mins before you got to the job that's way too long
@baldominaudo
4 жыл бұрын
What do you know about this model that I'm thinking of buying? The audio sample sounds great and its is fully functional. Your thoughts and expertise are appreciated! - metroactive.org/wordpress/rtcl_listing/philco-ford-solid-state-radio-vintage-1960s/
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