Man, what a sweet running 10hp. Great job and thanks for sharing with us.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
This one turned out to be a great runner. I paid a little more than I should have for this one, but it turned out great so I feel pretty good about it. Thanks for watching!
@mikedurhan9941
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Generally speaking, do you think the 10hp motors with the smaller gear case (1958 and newer) are quicker than the earlier ones with the big gear case?
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedurhan9941 If both motors are on good condition I would say the 4-bolt gearcase will gain about 1mph top end over the 5-bolt. The 5-bolt gearcase is almost bulletproof on a 10hp though. The 4-bolt is quite delicate on a 10hp and will destroy itself quickly if it gets run with water in the oil. I have some 4-bolt 10s that I really love, but the 5-bolt is far more durable. Thanks for watching!
@mikedurhan9941
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thank you!
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedurhan9941 you're welcome 👍
@dongill8769
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Good combo with the boat! Sounds great!
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It is a nice combo with the boat. Thus one turned out to be a really nice runner. Thanks for watching!
@marksmith4582
3 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all for a 64 year old Johnson! She should keep running for quite a while yet! She shows her age but not bad as I said for being 64 years young! Nice and smooth! Another nice one! Mark in southeast Iowa.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
It really turned out to be a very nice runner. I may find a nicer cowl for it sometime. For its age, it can still get down. Thanks for watching!
@vk5jajay147
3 жыл бұрын
What a great running Johnson. Sure wish we could find these old gems down under, then parts would be the other issue. Keep up the great video's mate 👌🎣🦀🍻
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This one looks a little rough around the edges, but it did turn.out to be an excellent runner once it was serviced. It is great to have these motors available here and the parts availability is still pretty good. I'm sure that would present a much bigger problem in Australia. I'll keep the video up the best I can. Thanks for watching!
@donaldswider3858
3 жыл бұрын
I just acquired one of those I'll have to get it running again you're motor run nice and smooth
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your motor! This one, although not a pretty example, is an excellent runner now. I'm very pleased with how it turned out. Thanks for watching!
@johnmccrea8106
3 жыл бұрын
You made an ugly motor into a beautiful gem! You could have a kid waterskiing with it. Thank again for another ride along.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes, this would pull a kid on skis for sure if I didn't need a second person in the boat for a spotter. The 18 would handle the extra passenger along with the skier. Thanks for watching!
@jeschreindl
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great 👍🏻
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and thanks for watching!
@aziggy1039
2 жыл бұрын
Ugly motors need love too; so true 🙂
@oldjohnnyrude8404
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@miketh2436
3 жыл бұрын
Another great running motor!
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This one also turned out to be a great runner. She isn't much to look at, but she sure runs nicely. Thanks for watching!
@wilco3588
3 жыл бұрын
Back then all I had was the aqua meter and it was beyond inaccurate!
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the GPS is a nice improvement over that.
@garysmith5795
2 жыл бұрын
Good morning , and Happy Turkey Day!. I have a question I know you can answer. :o) I too have a 56 QD 17, and I have to replace the upper crank seal. Oil all over everything in the mag. My question is...I purchased the carbon crank seal, and the O-ring as well. Does the O-ring fit inside the carbon seal then slip both over the crank into its cavity?, and do I apply some OMC gasket compound to the outer edge of the carbon seal before slipping into position to seal the outer edge of the seal, or do I just leave it dry and slide it down into place? Thanks for posting such great videos! Learned alot from you. Don't eat too much turkey today....lol Gary
@oldjohnnyrude8404
2 жыл бұрын
Happy Thanksgiving Gary! Yes, you have the assembly correct. The O-ring goes inside the carbon seal and that assembly slips over the crankshaft. Do not use gasket sealer on the carbon seal. I usually use a light application of OMC Triple Guard Grease. Some 2-stroke oil will usually work fine in a pinch. Be careful with them, they are pretty delicate. It is always nice to get positive feedback about my channel content. I'm glad you have foubd them informative. Thanks for watching!
@davidmann4533
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 19 5630 horse Johnson it was a very good engine. Had a 19 5810 Horse it was a good engine. Only problem with those oldie but Goldie is Half the fuel went out the exhaust unburned Creating too much pollution so don’t run nothing to log in pollute your lake
@labradorguy5311
3 жыл бұрын
It's not ugly! Its patina! dale
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
It's something. With as well as it runs, I'd probably do the paint and decals on this one if the cowl wasn't tweaked. Maybe I'll find a nice cowl for it this summer. Thanks for watching, Dale!
@davekimbler2308
3 жыл бұрын
So which QD’s are you missing ? Healthy sounding 10hp ! Take care Bud , only 8 weeks till Constantine ! Yah !
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
I'm missing the '60-'63 QDs. I have them all from '49-'59. Some aren't the nicest examples, but they're in the lineup at least. This is a healthy one. Looking forward to Constantine for sure!
@dwayneivie3350
3 жыл бұрын
i watch you video a lot, one question the little gps is there battery inside it? just trying to be careful is all.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your viewership. Yes, the little GPS speedometer/trip computer has a rechargeable battery inside it. Thanks for watching!
@paulancil1384
Жыл бұрын
I like to know how to set the timing on a Evinrude 10hp 1959 Golden Jubilee motor, if there is a method.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
If you have a timing tool, it is done with that tool and a multimeter or a magneto timer (buzz box). New timing tools are available from Richardsoutboardtools.com. If you prefer, it can also be done using a 0.020" feeler gauge. Set the rubbing block of each set of points at the highest point on the points cam under the flywheel. When the rubbing block is sitting in the high spot on the cam, set the points gap to 0.020" using the feeler gauge. The timing tool takes the guesswork out and is faster than the feeler gauge, but the timing can be set accurately using the feeler gauge method if you are experienced using a feeler amd take care when setting the gap. I have a tune up video series on this channel that shows me setting the timing on a '59 Evinrude 18hp which is the exact same magneto. I use the timing tool in my video. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
@outlawflyer7868
3 жыл бұрын
How do you get these parts for your old motors,I have a wizard, I think it's a 6hp, maybe 1951 or older and I can't any parts for it. Need help!!
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
I have a lot more experience getting parts for and working on OMC outboards than most other brands. Your '51 Wizard 6hp would be a Mercury built motor. Mercury built outboards for Western Auto to be marketed and sold under the Wizard name for quite a few years. Later on in the 60s, Scott McCullough built some Wizards as well as some others but yours is Mercury. There are lots of great, knowledgeable people at AOMCI.ORG as well as johnsoldmercurysite that would be a great source of information and maybe even parts for your Wizard. Thanks for watching!
@liambarrett7866
3 жыл бұрын
I have the same outboard and when you full throttle in reverse it revs high but forward it only revs half way. Yours ever do that or is it just mine?
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Well, the prop is less efficient in reverse than forward, so that may account for the higher RPM in reverse. If you're only getting half speed forward, maybe the shift interlock is not allowing the magneto plate to fully advance in Forward gear. Remove the hood and take it for a run. See if the bar that goes up from the shift lever is not moving out of the way far enough and is stopping the magneto plate halfway at the reverse speed stop on the plate. I hope that may help. Thanks for watching!
@FullSendCo1
3 жыл бұрын
I got a question I got a 1963 Johnson 10 hp are you supposed to adjust the rich and lean and stuff in the water
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the best place to dial in the carburetor adjustments is on the boat on the water. Once they are dialed in, they don't need to be adjusted much. Only fine tuned if the weather changes. Thanks for watching!
@FullSendCo1
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 can I have a shout out for my KZitem
@mikedurhan9941
3 жыл бұрын
I meant to ask you........... do you like that Meilan M3 gps speedometer? Completely wireless and portable? Thanks.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, so far I am quite happy with it. I bought a second one to leave mounted in my Aerocraft. I now use the white one to move around from boat to boat. It is quite accurate and reads nearly spot on with my Garmin GPS-IV that I have owned for many years and has proven itself many times over. Wireless, rechargeable, portable, and water resistant.
@mikedurhan9941
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikedurhan9941 You're welcome. 👍
@user-ph4fl5ut4v
Жыл бұрын
Have the same exact motor. How can I get more hp? Has new plugs, fires right up. Only pushing a 14ft.mirro craft. Thanks
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
If you're looking to increase HP with these, buy a bigger motor. There is not a lot to do that is in any way advisable to gain any real power without drastically shortening the life of the engine. The small, bushing wristpins are the weak point of these motors anyway. They are excellent runners if they are well cared for, not lugged, and not run short of oil in the mix. No drier than 24:1. If it was a more modern 9.9, I would have a different story for you. These have a pretty respectable power to.weight ratio as they are. 14 ft mirrocraft with just the operator and fuel should run between 16 and 20mph depending on conditions and to some degree the weight of the operator. Thanks for watching!
@user-ph4fl5ut4v
Жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 I know I can use a bigger motor for more horsepower. I was curious how that motor push that 16 foot compared to the 14ft I have.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ph4fl5ut4v this 16 footer is consistently slightly faster in the same conditions with the same HP as my two 14 footers. I know that sounds strange, and I was kind of surprised as well. Aroung 0.5 mph better in most cases woth this boat though. A different prop can make a difference depending on your boat and how it is loaded too. Not much in the way of real performance gains to be had woth these motors though.
@marksmith9295
3 жыл бұрын
Great followup video from the barrel test video i just happened to watch to get some insight into my qd17! It looks identical btw. Would you be kind enough to mention what gearcase seals to get. I am assuming they will need replacing but apparently they are different than ones i used for my 62 Sportwin. Thanks much and keep up the good videos. This Mark Smith is from Ontario, Canada...what are the chances of that happening😂
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I actually have three Mark Smiths that follow (to some degree anyway) my channel. LOL! The drive shaft seal is the same one as any of the 18hp J/Es. The shift rod O-ring and spaghetti seal are the same for all of this era OMC outboards from 5.5hp and up. The prop shaft seal for this motor is, unfortunately, NLA. I often use the newer seal that fits the 1958-up 5-bolt gearcase from the 18/20/25 hp motors and turn a reducer bushing on my lathe to reduce the seal bore down to the size of the later seal. The good news is, often I find the shift rod O-ring to be the only leaking seal. That's the least expensive one, but it is also the one that requires the gearcase to be completely emptied. It needs a special tool to drive the shift rod bushing out and back in as well. The tool is only about 13 bucks though. That may be the only seal that needs to be replaced. A pressure test will find the leaks if there are any. Thanks for watching!
@marksmith9295
3 жыл бұрын
@@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks very much for advice and prompt reply. The prop shaft seal was the one i was worried about if needed but will do a pressure test first. I will get the shift shaft tool this time for sure to avoid the challenges i had with my Sportwin. Just got a bunch of my old motors out of storage the last 2 days so lots of fun ahead. All the best and thanks again.
@wilco3588
3 жыл бұрын
Next you do a on the Lake test what's the economy cruise mile per hour? 3/4 throttle full mag advance.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
I don't believe I'll be doing any experiments to determine the maximum cruise efficiency of a 10hp tiller outboard. It may be interesting to determine that for something else. I know if I back the throttle down on my '63 Big Twin so the fuel saver linkage closes the throttle about 2/3 of the way but leaves the mag advanced it does save a noticeable amount of fuel. That is not possible with the throttle cam profile and the spark advance synchronization on these motors anyway. Thanks for watching!
@wilco3588
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the OMC of the late 50's and sixties you can feel as your roll the throttle you'll go to full advance and there's kind of a detent or change or resistance and that's where the throttle is usually 2/3 to 3/4 open and that's cruise after that It just opened the throttle more . I had to buy my own gas on long excursions as a kid. That's what my dad said as a service Tech and that's what the service manager told me..
@oldjohnnyrude8404
3 жыл бұрын
@@wilco3588 The late 60s 18-25hp motors have that ramp profile on the throttle cam. None of the 50s or early 60s motors do. Those do make some noticeable difference. The 67 Fastwin I usually run on my Aerocraft has that cam. It does help economy if you back off a little from WOT. The timing stays at about 85% amd the throttle goes to about 1/2. I usually lose about 5mph but it does save fuel.
@danb1826
Жыл бұрын
What size boat?
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
This is on my '56 Alumacraft Model K. It's a 16 foot (15'10") hull. Thanks for watching!
@danb1826
Жыл бұрын
Wow, pretty fast for that size, awesome! We grew up with a 1960 10 HP Johnson, learned to ski on it 😄
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
@@danb1826 This is a pretty strong one. This 16 foot Alumacraft is actually about 0.5-1.0 mph faster than my 14 foot Alumacraft FD with most of the motors I have run on both boats. I find that kind of fascinating, but has been quite consistent. The 16 footer can be a handful in the wind by myself from the tiller though. There is so much hull out front for the wind to push around.
@MrMcadams101
Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these for 20$ from my uncle.
@oldjohnnyrude8404
Жыл бұрын
Excellent! These are excellent motors. Make sure to run it on 24:1 mix, not 50:1 despite what some people will tell you. Wristpin failure is the #1 thing that kills these 10hps. They need the recommended oil to survive. Good luck with your new motor and thanks for watching!
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