I love your channel. Great stuff. The sound is much better too. Good job.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks indeed Danny 🙏🎸
@victorbeebe8372
Жыл бұрын
For some reason there has been some great musicians who had a great sounding '61 Strats.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
This is true!
@JuddLofthouse
Жыл бұрын
Excellent post l really enjoyed that .thank you 👍
@christineayres7199
Жыл бұрын
The custom shop builders are master craftsmen i remember Eric Clapton was shocked when they created the Blackie Replica it looked and played the same as the real thing , sadly the price tag was ridiculous something like £17 grand but having said that the real thing was £1 million lol
@julianmetcalfe1070
Жыл бұрын
2 lovely strats got a set of Kinman blues in mine very pleased with sound,great show you covered some good points interesting
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Julian
@johnwylde8232
Жыл бұрын
I have a ‘72 built/‘74 registered strat with microphonic PU’s. Plenty of harmonics across the three and a classic dried out tone. Personally I wouldn’t change anything including PU height as it’s reached it’s sweet spot. Really great video and learned some new things watching you guys. A
@fongy200
Жыл бұрын
My Dad, God rest his soul took the readings off of his Guitars. The last Fender he bought was a Strat, new in 1984. It has Lace Sensors in it. They haven't lost any of their range at all none. It's not the case with the pre CBS ones in the collection which have waivered in their resistance. However they still sound amazing. Bob the gold Strat is a beauty. The team build custom shop is nice but it's not real Cheddar. I know which one i prefer. Thanks for sharing.
@FenderGreg
Жыл бұрын
Love all the variables in guitars,. especially fender's, that could result in tone differences. It's a never ending awesome conversation.
@williamgregory6684
Жыл бұрын
I remember Steven Stills bringing up the point that the pickups in the 50's and 60's were wound in non AC environments so you could say the sweat from peoples hands could affect the sound. Great video!!!
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I guess it will makes a difference
@toneloke7489
Жыл бұрын
I could listen to these gentlemen talk guitar all day, so much knowledge!👍🎸
@jonnybeck6723
Жыл бұрын
Nice plunking there lads (and luffly tones as well)
@christineayres7199
Жыл бұрын
Another thing that affects the sound of the Pickups is if like me you raise them up closer to the strings as i believe doing this gives more volume , the problem is single coils have a lot of microphonic interference so raising them too close to the strings is not the best idea , I always lower that middle pickup as that pulls the strings down and interferes with the sound of the neck or Bridge pickups , I do use the inbetween position but only for blues SRV type stuff otherwise im always playing Blackmore or Yngwie style music on my 2007 USA Strat.
@limpindug
Жыл бұрын
Hey fellas, am a wee bit disappointed you didn't mention the molecular changes to the strings due to the environment. 😂😂😂 Thanks for a top show fellas a really enjoyed it. 👍👍👍🥃Respect to you fellas. PS Goldie is the keeper amongst keepers.
@Badhands55
Жыл бұрын
Great video
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@robbrady4649
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, guys. Looking at the poster in the background, seems Ramon was on the same bill as the likes of Steve Vai and Albert Lee. I'm sure he has some interesting stories to share.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
🎸🙏
@catfish001YT
Жыл бұрын
Great program.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jeremy 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@williampayne7678
Жыл бұрын
Love your Stratocasters
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks William!
@craigthomson3621
Жыл бұрын
I have been lucky enough to source a set of lefty Josefina Campos, and a set of Abby signed lefty Abigail Ybarra pickups.
@syfman6
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Strat! 💚🎸
@Guitar5986
Жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. Not sure why Ramone is wearing a blouse though. Laundry might have been mixed up & he put on women's apparel for the day.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Haha love it, thanks for watching bro 🙏🎸
@mikebarnard2689
Жыл бұрын
5th fret harmonic , very difficult to get on neck position. Kinman reckons the pickup height screws are the most powerful tone controls on the guitar. I’ve been using very small cap values for bridge tone ( like 0.0068uF ) as a sweetener control, never gets muddy but totally useable throughout full range unlike larger cap values.
@baronoflivonia.3512
Жыл бұрын
Best Guitar Show online.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much 🙏
@voxshall
Жыл бұрын
I like the bass side higher than the treble side on the bridge pickup and the opposite for the neck and middle, worth checking out what you prefer.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
That's interesting thanks
@runreilly
Жыл бұрын
Best guitar channel on YT. 👏
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@rheinhardtgrafvonthiesenha8185
Жыл бұрын
I’m a collector in this realm, this is my wheelhouse . I’m the Bob of custom shop gear lol. As a Gibson guy I will say that the Fender CS absolutely blows the Gibson CS out of the water in every way. The binding on Gibson CS are often appalling, the fretwork is ordinary at best not to mention with a Gibson you can buy it and then immediately upgrade everything. The CTS pots they use are spec(d) to junk. The have no sweep at all with the volume starting at 8. The “bumblebee” caps they give you aren’t even real paper in oil caps. The bridge and tail and be upgraded with a number of others and although the custombuckers they’re using now are pretty good (much better than the burstbuckers) they can still be upgraded by any number of after market pickups including Gibson’s own stock Shaw pickups from the late 70’s-mid 80’s. I’m not into the relic stuff myself but Gibson’s is a joke compared to Fender (again I’m a Gibson guy). Basically a Gibson Murphy lab will give you the same overall quality as a Fender team build. And they’re plug and play. There’s not much you can do to actually upgrade them. You might prefer different pups or whatever but it’s not a clear upgrade on what was there. The fretwork is always great, they’re always setup from the factory pretty well too. There’s a place called historic makeovers that take your Gibson and steam the neck off, recarve it to your spec (they have 50’s and 60’s or whatever you want) put on the correct logo, royalite binding, Brazilian rosewood fingerboard and age it to a scary close resemblance to an original. But this makeover alone is $4500 add that to the price of a new Gibson custom shop and all the sudden that plug and play fender looks pretty friggin good.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
I agree the Fender Custom Shop has got there sh*! Together!
@popeye089
Жыл бұрын
I also play and collect and disagree with your assessment. I have a Murphy, HM, and a CS. The Murphy is leaps and bounds better than past CS guitars. my Fender CS as great as it is, every time I look at it I remember it is simply a bolt on neck and not in the same caliber of craftsmanship as a Gibson build. 2 totally different animals. HM is a boutique makeover and is another realm between both. Fender and Murphy cannot touch them because they are are a small shop doing the little fine things and attention to detail neither have the time to do or long experience as Kim and his team.
@vlajkomitrovic7419
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful playing! Both guitars are great!
@johnnieguitar5724
Жыл бұрын
Great idea! '61 has a bit more midrange mojo, more raw than the CS imho.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
It also had a great acoustic tone
@ClayAllred
Жыл бұрын
I'm ALWAYs using the middle pup. Leading Jerry Garcia stuff, he spent most of his soloing time on the middle pup. Nothing beats strat tones! Playing a custom hardtail that I built with Planet Tone 1957 pickups.
@jensk4140
Жыл бұрын
Both sound like great strats but the '61 has the coolest finish.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Yes that shoreline gold is lovely
@strat0871
Жыл бұрын
Agree.
@jonnybeck6723
Жыл бұрын
Of course now I shall start pharting around with Strat pickup height in pursuit of some elusive sweet spot... Don't call the doctor just yet
@kevinmendezrios3101
Жыл бұрын
Great tones and knowledge! What's the name of the first piece you played? it sounds awesome.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Thanks ...and I love her - The Beatles (hard day's night album)
@flatsix666
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to nerding out with Telecaster acoustics :)
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Well I like the P Project guitars which were shaped like a Tele
@flatsix666
Жыл бұрын
My CS 1960 relic Tele is so loud acoustically, you’d think it was chambered! 😁
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
@@flatsix666 nice, we are going to do a Tele comparison in the near future... hopefully a vintage piece!
@simonnotthepieman1581
Жыл бұрын
Re Backbone. Seems something that'll be manageable to produce at home and something I'd consider taking on for experimental fun. I'm in Bwood, let me know if y'all want to try a hacked at home version to try out
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
That's great Simon. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🎸🎸🎸🎸
@simonnotthepieman1581
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitarShow Looking at it some more, For a tele I have something here to try in lieu of the tusq blocks that should work just as well if not better (for big chimes and harmonics!). Swing by when around and we'll look at creating something to try on a daily beater guitar that has the same string spacing/screw hole dimensions etc as a favourite guitar
@TheMehdyyy
8 ай бұрын
Where does the berber Sign come from?
@TheGuitarShow
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for noticing, I lived for some time in Morocco.
@enidsnarb
Жыл бұрын
Not a center lamination !!! Thank Goodness!
@BedeLaplume
Жыл бұрын
Bob is entirely right.. The first thing to do on a solidbody electric, is to play it without amplification. In order to hear how it resonates and sustains.. The greatest or most sensitive pickups won't be at their best, with dead sounding wood along with poor lutherie and guitar setup.. Also I wonder if the Poly finish of the new Stats or guitars will allow with time, evaporation like the older nitro finish?
@phililpb
Жыл бұрын
that is a bit like testing a car by letting it roll down a hill with the engine off
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Very true words, thanks Bernard
@jonnybeck6723
Жыл бұрын
@@phililpb I'll buy it if it'll roll up the hill
@BedeLaplume
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitarShow Welcome but my name is Bertrand ..😁 Everybody does this at first even French speaking folks.. BTW love your channel.. It's actually my favorite one on KZitem as far as guitars are concerned.. The format has a balance being both casual and instructive.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
@@BedeLaplume aw thanks so much Bertrand, and yes I know your name but I think I typed it too fast and didn't check. Thanks so much 🙏
@Glicksman1
Жыл бұрын
Fretboard wood makes little to no difference in tone, particularly once they are plugged in. Feel? Yes. Tone? No. Also, while pickups wound by a particular person may be generically similar, no two pickups sound exactly alike. For me, low output pickups sound best in all applications. I usually set he pickups on a Strat a low as possible. Jeff Beck said he does that, and that's; good enough for me. However, I like the idea of finding that "sweet spot" that you talked about. I'm going to try it. The early '60s three-ply Strat pickguards were made of three layers of celluloid nitrate, a very flammable, unstable material that tends to get brittle over time and and crack, shrink unevenly, and worst of all , gas out with what is called "celluloid rot", and actually disintegrate in some cases. Many guitars with celluloid binding do this. Old Gretschs, Guilds. D'Angelicos, and D'Aquistos are notorious for this. The gases that are produced by celluloid rot attack adhesives such as hide glue, which means that glue joints under the rotting binding are likely to loose integrity, losing strength or open entirely.
@hkguitar1984
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you about lower output pickups. With lower output pickups it makes sense for the amplifier to do all the heavy lifting (at least for my rig/setup). Also, I’ve been able to transition all of my guitars to non-potted pickups. Lack of potting adds a touch of microphonics, which with my playing is a plus.
@Glicksman1
Жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 Like so many, I was enamoured with "hot" (overwound) pickups, thinking (intuitively but erroneously as it turned out) that if the signal from the pickup was stronger, the amp would distort quicker with more harmonic quality and quantity. I was partially wrong. Yes, the hotter signal causes distortion at lower volume. It does contain more harmonics, but less of the ones that we like to hear. Hot pickups usually produce a muddy, indistinct, inarticulate, hard clipped, almost square-wave sound that is nothing as nice as a moderate sine-wave crunch and true even-order distortion. As my playing became more articulate and I wished to express more nuance and what we call "feel" for lack of a better term, I wished my tone to be reflective of this, as well. I discovered, quite by fortuitous accident, that low output pickups produce, among other good things, better string and note definition. Each note in a chord can be heard clearly, and solo lines are more redolent of dynamic expression and nuance and, accordingly, the player's "feel", for better or worse, is more pronounced. Therein lies the rub. If a player has a detailed and refined feel, low output pickups will let that come forth from the plucked string, through the amp, and out of the speaker. A plodder will be better served by hot pickups that tend to mask the fact that he or she is so. I, too, like pickups that are moderately microphonic. However, the line between what is useful and what is a PITA is quite fine. Often what is a nicely singing microphonic pickup today may turn harsh and nasty and will feedback at any provocation tomorrow. It's generally a deteriorating condition. Cheers.
@hkguitar1984
Жыл бұрын
@@Glicksman1 You are very articulate and accurate in your description, bravo, I couldn't have described it better myself. It has been my experience that the only down-side of unpotted pickups would be a shorter service life. Hard playing and lots of use will eventually loosen up the non-potted bobbin/coil (as you so stated), I can live with that trade off. I should add that these days I only play in my home Studio, this allows me much more flexibility when dealing with unpotted pickups (as compared to a live situation). As for articulation and microphonics, with such a pickup, I can actually hear the difference between a celluloid pick and a nylon pick, so to with thumb/fingers strumming or plucking. Your comment is spot-on in every way (IMHO), all I could add would be the importance of a really good amplifier. A Tweed era Fender or even any of the early Marshall do a wonderful job of making each note played sing and bloom. I can't emphasize enough how important a good amplifier can be. I feel I also need to mention that the amplifier has to be played/used in its sweet-zone (typically about 70% of full volume/power). Myself, I favor a Cathode-Follower Tone Stack, the simpler the better. Every day is a gift, and I’ve had many since first picking up a guitar back in 1974. I find it an absolute Blessing that even now I find playing the guitar is a journey with many paths and no end in sight. Be Well and Be Safe Glicksman1
@Glicksman1
Жыл бұрын
@@hkguitar1984 You are exceeding generous in your kind comments for which I thank you. I take no credit for anything I wrote, however, as I have only stated the truth of the matter as I have experienced and observed it. I also play at home exclusively and have for a while, even before Covid. I often play with some mates on JamKazam which is very satisfying and much fun without the driving to a rehearsal place, playing through unfamiliar and inadequate equipment, and paying for the honour. The same goes for gigs which I never do anymore by choice and by preference. I find that I'd gladly play gratis to an appreciative crowd. It's the loading, unloading, hauling and setting up of amps, etc., and the reverse in the wee hours of the morning after three or four sweaty, energetic sets. No thanks. With regard to microphonic pickups, as do you, I consider a known excellent present condition and possibly having to deal with a bothersome future one to be preferrable to attempting to insure a relatively static mediocrity. Adventure over security, I say. "My back to the wall A victim of laughing chance This is for me The essence of true romance." With many things concerning electric guitar playing, I recently discovered that single-ended amplifiers are superior for many things. Aside from being smaller, lighter, and quieter (not a bad triumvirate), they are more touch sensitive and their simple tone stacks and power circuits provide purer tone which permits whatever guitar is playing through it to come breathlessly alive and retain its individual voice and character. For those of us so fortunate as to have very good-sounding guitars, this is a blessing, indeed. Of course, as with all "blessings" there are a few "curses" as well. An amp's enhanced touch sensitivity and purity is a sharp mirror that exposes even the slightest sloppy or careless playing. You must always perform at your best when playing through such a system. I, for one, consider this to be a boon that I very much appreciate. Nothing encourages you to play better than to play through such an amp (or to play with a better guitarist). Its simple circuit give back nothing that you didn't put into it to begin with, and there is nothing behind which you may hide. This is similar to recoding in a professional studio, a humbling and most instructive experience. I have a 1960 Gibon GA-5T "Skylark" that is just magic. Vox AC-4 and, of course, the venerable Fender "Champ" are similar and do the same things but cost more than twice or three times as much as the Gibson for no good reason. We share a deep love and affection for life, music and guitar playing which you beautifully expressed. Cheers, mate.
@hkguitar1984
Жыл бұрын
@@Glicksman1 My goodness, where do I start........I feel You and I may have fallen from the same tree in the same orchard! As far as playing out, as I've gotten older it quickly became painfully apparent that the Juice was no longer worth the squeeze. Plus, nobody enjoys moving a Fender Twin around. Again, you’ve perfectly articulated my thoughts concerning unpotted pickups. All I could add is that, YES, I agree, mediocrity should never be on the table as a valid option. Online collaboration is exceedingly satisfying, not to mention I'm able to still play with Bandmates from the late 1970s even though we live many hours away from each other. More time playing and less time driving/moving. The older I get the more important my time has become. To add what you've said about the small single ended amplifiers, my most favorite is a 1947 Magnatone Troubadour M-192-5 combo that was gifted to me many decades ago. Its 12" Field-Coil Speaker provides plenty of practice volume and is a glorious and inspiring gem of an amplifier. The workmanship and designs of those ‘50s - ‘60s Gibson and Fender amplifiers speaks for themselves. An amplifier like your Skylark is a prime example of less equaling more (a lot more). To comment on your “triumvirate” statement, I’ve a close friend who refurbishes speakers for vintage amplifier restorations. In the past I’ve had him re-cone speakers with less efficient voice coils to bring the overall sound pressure levels down to a more manageable level. This strategy has been helpful as I’ve been underwhelmed when using attenuators. This has allowed me to repurpose some of my amplifiers that would otherwise be too much for anything short of a large venue. And with that I will conclude as I’ve decided to go play/practice. We've a new 5F6-A clone that I'm going to go play through now. We purchased this amplifier for our Son's 30th birthday gift and he has been kind enough to leave it with me. I suspect he will soon be taking it home, so now is my chance. Please feel free to contact me directly, my email can be found on my KZitem page. Be Well and Stay Safe
@benallmark9671
Жыл бұрын
Is the CS a 60’s reissue or ?
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
Yes it's a 61 team built relic
@elevenAD
Жыл бұрын
I much prefer the tone of the 2022! im shocked because im not usually a fan of that airy pluckyness that roasted necks add to a guitar tone but it works well on that strat.
@cyclesgoff9768
Жыл бұрын
Your new chum will wax lyrical about the usual variations of spec. But won’t actually play for us🙄
@johnmarshall3903
Жыл бұрын
61 had more quack
@vintagepipesnightmares
6 ай бұрын
The most guitarded people ever! They really don’t understand that metal , plexiglass, plastic electric guitars sound EXACTLY like wood electric guitars. Google magnetic pickup!!!! Do it !!
@vw9659
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your efforts. But there's an awful lot of unsubstantiated hearsay and folklore here, or misconstrued experience repeated as fact. It would be great if objective evidence became the criterion on which you judge what information to repeat on the channel in the future. Pickup pole piece magnets commonly losing strength, happy wood/pickup "marriages", mystical female pickup winder genealogy, different sounding alloys for vintage bent steel bridge saddles, trem blocks that apparently change string tension, heard differences between slab and laminate fretboards, machine-wound pickups lacking "character" vs hand/scatterwound, trem cavity reverb chambers, etc. ?? There's no good evidence for any of it. You're mostly just repeating stuff that someone in the distant past literally made up, because they thought it "might" possibly be right. Yes, similar strats often sound different. For a range of well understood reasons (although many are difficult to measure without complex equipment) - but which rarely if ever include any of the above.
@TheGuitarShow
Жыл бұрын
I totally disagree respectfully.with most of your points. No one has spent more time analysing and documenting these elements (on a spreadsheet) than Brian. I too was once a sceptic as you are but after seeing Brian's research results I have to agree there are definitely some conclusions to made in this area. But Brian will also admit most if not nearly all of the tone .....is in the fingers and brain of the operator. Also your comment that Brian is just a repeater is wholly incorrect, as I have personally witnessed his experiments. Maybe next time we invite Brian on the channel he can give some evidence of his experiments.
@vw9659
Жыл бұрын
@@TheGuitarShow if any of the assertions made are based on experiments then let's see those experiments. Because some of the things he said contradicted basic physics. Like his assertion that string termination position in the trem block can change string tension. The factors in string tension have been known since at least the 1700s. And they don't include how the string is anchored behind the bridge (which may however affect effective string stiffness). The fact that Gallagher's guitars had different necks and sounded different doesn't lead to the conclusion that slab vs laminate fretboards boards caused that difference. A precise student of guitars wouldn't make such an obviously dubious assertion. Are there blinded A/B tests showing that any of the pickup assertions are true ? As opposed to just a cute story about experienced Hispanic female winders vs machines that wind pickups, that somebody thought might be a plausible reason why similar pickups sound different ? If you want to talk about real pickup differences, talk about inductance, resonant frequency, Q factor, eddy currents - the things that are known to explain why they sound different. Scientists have not shown that de-magnetism is common in guitar pickups. Which unsurprisingly is entirely consistent with what magnet physicists will tell you about the fundamental properties of those magnet types. Bent steel saddles have been shown to produce string different frequency losses even when made of the same alloys, due to different wear patterns and resonant frequencies. What evidence shows that different vintage alloys were responsible for anything similar ? There is a profound lack of evidence for any role of the body wood alone, or in combination in happy string/wood "marriages". Such assertions arise mostly from simplistic conclusions about the only obvious things one can see when two guitars sound different, which is hardly solid science. The reasons why pickups vary on the other hand is quite well understood, but mostly hidden from us by pickup manufacturers who believe we're better off with snake oil marketing. The way that the strat trem leads to specific string frequency losses has been well studied. Nothing to do with reverb. So all in all there is several decades of scientific research based on measurements of real guitars that is mostly inconsistent with the assertions made. And by the way that research has mostly NOT been done by guitar manufacturers. I do appreciate your efforts in trying to convey useful information. But these are fundamentally scientific questions. And there is objective published data from real guitars out there to answer many of them. From independent scientists, some of whom have been measuring guitars for decades.
@toneloke7489
Жыл бұрын
The both sound amazing, but I attribute that to the players more than anything, to my untrained ear, I cant tell the difference between either guitar.
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