Thank you Zack for coming out on a bitterly cold day to film the Firenza and thank you for all the kind words to my friends and I. We are an odd bunch of car enthusiasts, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
@ModelA
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Good work Justin. That thing is so ugly, that it's cute! I drove one of those in 86. It belonged to my friend's mom. It drives way nicer that you'd expect.
@sybsygstgstsgysg5330
Жыл бұрын
@@ModelA the pug of cars
@OnlyTheFinest125
Жыл бұрын
Love the Oldsmobile Tornado 😉
@Blakecryderman7244
Жыл бұрын
@Junkyard Justin where in Canada is the other Firenza?
@Redline1986
Жыл бұрын
@@Blakecryderman7244 Around Cornwall, I'll be using it for parts once I make the trip there.
@Blakecryderman7244
Жыл бұрын
My grandpa owned a 1984 grey Firenza from new until August 1991, to buy a new Geo Metro. It was a 4 door sedan with 3 speed automatic. In winter of 1987 he did a 360 with it coming down Mount Washington on Vancouver island British Columbia. My mom & my auntie still remember it really well. My grandpa told me that it stalled out a lot at stoplights. So that’s the nostalgic story of my grandpas old Firenza. He’s 79 now & drives a beautiful 2013 Red Lexus IS 250.
@davinp
Жыл бұрын
The oldsmobile version of the Chevy Cavalier. This was when GM made Chevy, Olds, Pontiac, Buick and Cadillac versions of the same car
@Tagiau
Жыл бұрын
tbf to the cimmaron, the front end does make it look better. Either that or it just fits what I think of 80s american cars.
@zythr9999
Жыл бұрын
But with a 1.8 engine available.
@rpf6562
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the Firenza was the same car that a Sunbird, Skyhawk and a Cavalier. But the Firenza had a unique original suspension. So smooth that you realized that you were driving an Oldsmobile.
@Ccyawn123
2 ай бұрын
I'd be surprised if there was any difference at all. GMs publicity department were experts in inciting J-body Delusion Syndrome.
@jeremiahallyn4603
Жыл бұрын
I was born in the 80s and can honestly say I have not heard of this car until now. How did I miss this particular model? It definitely has the 80s vibe 👏✌️
@Andyface79
Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard Oldsmobile didn't really want a J-car and didn't focus on it so it didn't sell well. I grew up in flyover country during the 80s and 90s and J-bodies were EVERYWHERE. And I maybe saw one or two. I remember the Pontiacs, Chevies, Buicks, even the Cimarron. But not these.
@sailordave1000
Жыл бұрын
My second car was an 84 Buick Skyhawk coupe with the same engine and transmission. As a teenager I regularly popped the clutch to chirp the tires. It also got nearly Prius fuel economy on the highway.
@3800TType
Жыл бұрын
That's unreal 300k wow. "Delco radio god bless America" lol just bought a mint one owner 89 Delta 88 and I will be replacing the broken Delco with a refurbished one and some new speakers. I learned about what radio was as a kid on the Delco in mom's Lesabre, beyond the nostalgia I just enjoy their interfaces...
@leumamk5259
Жыл бұрын
500k +
@chriscastillo4634
Жыл бұрын
A cool one to find is a pontiac sunbird wagon with pop up headlights!
@mikegoggin570
Жыл бұрын
I love J-bodies. Growing up, mom and dad had a gray 1982 Pontiac J2000 Coupe and a blue 1988 Chevrolet Cavalier VL Coupe. Later in my early 20s they bought a decommissioned fleet 1994 Chevrolet Cavalier Wagon. I miss these cars, man. Hoping to buy one or several in the next few months to play with.
@dave11686
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out if you will. Very happy you got to meet Justin and it’s a neat car.
@Doctor_Robert
Жыл бұрын
2:40 Manuals always had the sport moniker on them through the 80s (something that originates mostly in the 50s/60s), but during this period and especially for compact non-sporty cars, a stick was regarded as a fuel saving device. Because you could control the power better and--in a car with an actual 5-speed--you got an overdrive, which was not common in economy car automatics well into the 90s. To get a tach on a GM car such as this, you had to option it (if it were available) and most dealers wouldn't bother, especially on something like a wagon. Most people just bought off the lot without much thought.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
From the initial wave of compacts in the '60s the manufacturers resented having to cater to the "lunatic fringe" that wanted small cars. Back in the '70s my Dad went to inquire about the Chevette and the then new Fairmont. Salesmen at both were dismissive: "There's one over there". He got so pissed he went over the river to Moline IL and bought a Subaru for his commute. Their attitude has scarcely changed. And a couple of generations of buyers said "Fung Gu Detroit].
@bazilwreckerloughead
Жыл бұрын
I'm a sucker for wagons, I tend to love them all, but you add a super rare wagon to the mix...INSTANT FAN!!
@OLBeefcat1992
Жыл бұрын
My father bought one of these brand new in 1986, didn't listen to me and buy a 1985 fully loaded Chrysler New Yorker for $7000 less, because the Firenza was a 4 door.....he was not a smart man 🙄 To make a long story short, that p. o. s went through 9 radiators and 18 alternators, before it had 200 miles on it. The dealer told him to never come back again. The 1985 and 86 models had "test period parts" installed to research parts. He gave it to my sister in 1995 and the last part to give up was a transmission shift solenoid, $1.95 part....$900.00 to install it. Only positive thing about it, it was a literal TANK IN THE SNOW! 🤣🌨️❄️
@jasonsmith592
Жыл бұрын
OMG, my first car at 16 was a 1984 gray on gray Olds Firenza, so this was a walk down memory lane. It had like 83 HP from that little 4 cylinder and was, as you said, crazy slow! But that's a good thing for a 16 year old boy as I never got a speeding ticket in it. I remember it being really good on gas, that it had no working heat, no working a/c, a bad fuel pump, and a shot catalytic converter (rotten egg smell), but it sure beat walking to and from high school. It provided me the freedom to go hang out at friends' houses that lived beyond "bike" distance.
@Tomcat71
Жыл бұрын
I had a Caviler wagon with a 5 speed . Great running car after I dropped the tank and replaced the Split rubber hose on the fuel pump.
@Jose_Hunters_EWF_Remixes
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good show, unexpectedly so Not a bunch of pointless flashing lights, computer graphics and other mind-numbing KZitem "stuff" Honest, straightforward, enthusiastic talk Strong knowledge base Ugly, dirty, beat up, REAL cars Lively show I like what you do You kept my interest, and I know squat about cars Now, if you want to talk about bicycles... or mathematics Then I'm an expert Thanks, Zach
@lab1042
Жыл бұрын
One of the cars I learned to drive on was an '84 Sunbird with a manual. Same blue-ish color as this car. Don't know what engine it had. All I know is about a week after my parents handed it down to me, the engine block cracked and they sold for about $250 (this was around 1989). So the car only lasted 5 years - didn't say much for early 80's GM quality. They didn't buy it new. Think it was a "we need a car now" type of situation and somehow that's what they got. It was a decently peppy car, so I was kinda bummed when it crapped-out on me.
@jas4925
Жыл бұрын
Being back memories. I grew up in a 84 Cavalier CL wagon in 2 tone brown yeah! My parent bought it brand new mom loved it we had it until the fall of 1992 when they bought a Saturn wagon also equally loved by mom.
@jmar1973
Жыл бұрын
Hey,remember... "There is A Special Feel... In An Oldsmobile!"😹 Great review...You have the same affinity for those early 80s GM models that I admired as as kid in those days! Looking forward to seeing more!
@robertjohnson7027
Жыл бұрын
Wow, the dash is exactly like the one in my 86 Skyhawk. It has well over 300000 miles on it too.
@aca2983
Жыл бұрын
An aunt had a Skyhawk. I'm not sure if they made them in wagons, but her sedan was the top trim, with a blue velour interior. As swank and "Brougham-y" as other Buick sedans of the era. A cousin had a Firenza 2-door hatchback, another had a Z24 Cavalier, and a college friend had a Cimarron. J-bodies were *everywhere* in the 80's & 90's.
@capcom7794
Жыл бұрын
they did have wagon Skyhawks
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
You're sick. Just sick. After watching this.... I had to subscribe. What a treat. I've been running a cousin of the J Body, an N body '86 Olds Calais since 1994 when I bought it with 21,000 miles. What you say about GM cars is true. Hardware is cheap and fragile, rattles, Iron Duke [Tech 4] in mine sounds like a tractor. Still, I find it beautiful years later. Comfortable. Rides like a much larger car. Roomy. Nicely trimmed. Velour upholstery has held up. It took a round trip from Tucson to Salt Lake and back just a couple of years ago and will do it again this summer. I've been driving GM FWD since 1992: '84 Citation, '86 Olds Calais, '95 Saturn SL1 [my brother still has], '99 Cavalier and '05 ION. Your coverage is great. You understand the appeal. I entered the Calais in a car show last year, showed up and they asked me if I was looking for parking, like I was lost. GM FWD get no respect from the mob. Anyway, I enjoyed this video beyond belief. Thanks.
@buddy8225
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Zach. This reminds me of my Buick Skyhawk wagon I had. Used it to haul stuff when I worked maintenance years ago. Very comfy seats. Mine was an automatic. It was ok. Air conditioning was ice cold.
@Foxonian
Жыл бұрын
My parents had one of these. Except theirs was an '84 equipped with a 3 speed auto and the 1.8 liter OHC engine that was near bulletproof.
@scottyg7284
Жыл бұрын
The uk/ euro equivalent 2.0 injection had a standard 5 speed and either 115 or 130 bhp depending on trim spec.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
Good story about the development of the J Body by Brock Yates in "The Decline & Fall Of The American Auto Industry". The engineers parted ways with the Euro group during development. We didn't get the "advanced" stuff because GM didn't think Americans were interested. Or just pilots and not interested in driving.
@chaseman94
Жыл бұрын
Now you just need to find a surving Buick and Pontiac vehicle on this platform that's still available to complete the lineup.
@davidjensen5074
Жыл бұрын
Very cool video & Firenza Wagon. My family used to own a 1984 Buick Skyhawk Limited Wagon. It was purchased by us brand new and we owned it for several years. It was brown outside with a brown interior. Being a Limited, it was top of the line. It had power door locks, AM FM radio (no cassette player, wire wheels, cruise control, and a power radio antenna. No power windows and no tachometer. It had a rear defroster and AC. It was an automatic. Fun fact: The Skyhawk had the same dashboard as the Firenza.
@celsovera91
Жыл бұрын
Now you gotta look for a Buick Skyhawk. Especially the one with the hidden headlights.
@bitemyshinnymetalass1569
Жыл бұрын
This has to be one of those rare cars I didn't know existed. Thanks Zack. 😲
@drewzero1
Жыл бұрын
In the early 2000s I remember being confused about people grumbling that Saturn put Oldsmobile out of business. Seeing this I get it. I can see so much of my first gen Saturn wagon, almost as if the Saturn was a newer model year of the same car. Obviously a lot of independent work went into the creation of Saturn, but my SW2 is like a direct drop-in replacement for this car right down to the grille less front fascia.
@joshuaw711
Жыл бұрын
We had a 1993 red Oldsmobile Silhouette, yes the dust buster minivan and it had the exact same dome light as this Firenza.
@kwasia4882
Жыл бұрын
This car really brought me back. Few people in my neighbourhood had the two and four door ones. Good insight to review this car, and great review !
@mclaybry
Жыл бұрын
I was a kid in the 80s (turned 16 in '89) and loved this wagon- never knew it was offered in a manual! How cool. Was never a fan of the Cavalier (I went to a snooty high school and one kid had one and called it his "ca-voll-e-a" like it was French!) but loved the Firenza, the Pontiac version and the even the Cimarron. Was the Buick version the Skyhawk?
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
Buick version, Skyhawk, yes.
@michaelconnolly2500
Жыл бұрын
I have a 1988 Sunbird. Yes, a scrappy, lovable car!
@lincmerc1581
Жыл бұрын
I love ALL wagons. I daily a '95 Taurus GL. I drive it more than my Accord.
@edword7195
Жыл бұрын
In Europe you would get a tech in the higher spec J body. The European version had a much nicer interior but would not get air con. You would also get proper rear seat belts in the European cars. Rear laps belts generally more of an American thing. You would also expect a 5 speed in a 2litire engine in fact by 86 everything but the most basic small engine cars would expect 5 speed
@drewzero1
Жыл бұрын
I learned to drive stick in a '90s Ranger that didn't have a tach. Luckily the Pinto engine was loud enough to get a feel for the RPMs!
@MOPCLinguistica
Жыл бұрын
You should come to Brazil, here in the 80s we had the J-Body in two door (3 door) hatchback configuration, no onther country produced those. It was called Chevrolet Monza Hatchback, google it.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
We had them in the US. I just watched a Motorweek test of an 86 Cavalier RS three door hatch. V6.
@MOPCLinguistica
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveGreg100 It was not the same styling
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
@@MOPCLinguistica Sounds good. Do you have a link to some pictures? I love the J Cars
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
Not sure which style I prefer.
@Tagiau
Жыл бұрын
That hvac location is perfect. I don't have to reach to change the temp, and the passenger can deal with what I have set. Only thing it's missing is the ball chiller from toyotas. And I'm surprised that doesn't have the typical cup holder. A worm clamp bolted to the center console. It was the only useful cup holder in my 04 cav since the front 2 were barely useful for an arizona, let alone anything else.
@67marlins
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford and Mopar guy, but almost wish I'd bought one of these, good looking little wagon.
@michaelcoffey7362
Жыл бұрын
Cool,When I was in college in 😀the 1990s, a student had a gray one of these as a sedan
@The_R-n-I_Guy
Жыл бұрын
I would love to have that car. I've never even heard of it before. But I love all 80's GM cars. The front wheel drive cars aren't my first choice. But I'd rather have any car from the 80's than a modern garbage CROSSOVER
@Low760
Жыл бұрын
So many of this J body were around when I grew up, but as the Holden Camira, which Holden designed the wagon? Or they made the wagon body and sent it to the UK.
@worrier
Жыл бұрын
Super rad, love the four speed! Love the gauge cluster splitting the warning lights in two taking away the room for the tach haha. They do look super cool love the segmented circle lights
@IOLIVER88
2 ай бұрын
It looks like the station wagon from the mitchells versus the machines
@bwofficial1776
Жыл бұрын
Base model GM trucks and Jeeps used to have similar gauge clusters. You got the only two important gauges, speed and fuel, and everything else is a warning light. I never understood the need for a tachometer in non-performance manuals, you shift by speed and by ear. The thin whitewalls just look so right on this crusty wagon. It's the furthest thing from luxury you can get in 2022 but it ironically works.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
Ford used to be as bad. Fuel gauge and speedo. The rest 'idiot" lights.
@hoomanAdnan
Жыл бұрын
I love old school Wagons 🙌🏼❤️🔥 ❤️ From Bangladesh 🇧🇩
@sailordave1000
Жыл бұрын
Good luck trying to find a Sunbird or Skyhawk with the turbo engine. The later 2.0 SOHC turbo was the more powerful. If you do find one to test drive,…hold onto the steering wheel with both hands before hard acceleration because torque steer will rip it from you hands when the turbo kicks in. Some say the 3 speed auto turbo was faster than the 5 speed manual because you don’t have to take your foot off the gas to shift.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
Motorweek posted a retro review of the '86 Cavalier RS with 2.8 V6 and showed how much torque steer their was during their testing. Unreal. I used to notice it when I had an '84 Citation and it only had the 2.5 4.
@sailordave1000
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveGreg100 and the turbo had more torque than the 2.8L V6 and the turbo lag meant it took off slow and then sudden torque when the turbo kicked in.
@CrapeCraft
Жыл бұрын
This is the kinda car that's been abandoned in a far corner of the walmart parking lot for as long as you've been alive
@narniebone1332
Жыл бұрын
Interesting car never seen one thanks to all involved
@kennyj204
Жыл бұрын
My manual 1999 Tercel didn’t have a tach.
@rainbowmangarage
Жыл бұрын
I had one of these I loved it. Mine was a 1.8 auto
@flipflopthong2
Жыл бұрын
In its side profile, I see Holden Camira
@bigalsbikeandauto
Жыл бұрын
Love it!!!
@bryanttaylor4300
Жыл бұрын
Zach I just found your Channel a few days ago and I have been binge watching your reviews. really great content keep up the good work
@vinnybruce2874
4 ай бұрын
I saw ones but never seen them around
@SimonTekConley
Жыл бұрын
I miss my old 1986 Buick Skyhawk T-type
@classicforreal
Жыл бұрын
GM dares market it as a "cruiser" despite not having a vista roof (or any roof glass at all)
@jmar1973
Жыл бұрын
Wow,the Rareness!
@Suchayoutuber
Жыл бұрын
Sweet I want it, I had a 84 cavalier wagon with the four-speed manual went over 400k miles love that car unfortunately the Midwest rust ate it alive..... telegraph Rd?
@steveschmidt5574
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these cars!
@roymass1300
Жыл бұрын
Cool car😃 great video THANKS
@pizza2437
Жыл бұрын
Thats one sexy wagon
@zythr9999
Жыл бұрын
Yes the rust adds that special touch
@someonecalledeulogio2280
Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: isuzu aska
@quad4297
Жыл бұрын
This is a dream car for me. I want one for my wife to daily. though there is a 91 Calais wagon that would look fantasic next to my 442
@alifloydtv
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever driven a Euro J-car? Vauxhall Cavaliers were EVERYWHERE when I was a kid in the 80s (although my folks had a 4-speed manual Escort estate, which I learned to drive on). Although the Vauxhall Cava estate was a rare bird even then - I believe it was actually a Holden Camira 😅
@sybsygstgstsgysg5330
Жыл бұрын
I doubt it since we didn’t really get any in the states
@bigalsbikeandauto
Жыл бұрын
We FWD GMers are not so bad 😂
@Redline1986
Жыл бұрын
you gotta let him review your fleet!
@bigalsbikeandauto
Жыл бұрын
@@Redline1986 lol at first I thought you said review my feet 😂
@bigalsbikeandauto
Жыл бұрын
@@Redline1986 he is welcome to.
@Redline1986
Жыл бұрын
@@bigalsbikeandauto 🤣🤣🤣🥶🦶
@joelakers410
Жыл бұрын
My favorite car
@auntbarbara5576
Жыл бұрын
I would daily the shit out of this car. Great review.
@workingmanaudio2754
Жыл бұрын
Need a driving review with the video. That would make me subscribe.
@oldskool1979
Жыл бұрын
My God.. thats super rare.
@Osmium192
Жыл бұрын
Where do you find these old FWD GM cars? Sheer luck?
@Tomcat71
Жыл бұрын
LOL must be nice to have friends. Im 51 and have none.
@Blakecryderman7244
Жыл бұрын
@Shooting Cars where in Canada did Justin say that old rare Firenza was? I want to do a search of it on google maps street view
@Redline1986
Жыл бұрын
You can't see it from the street, it's on private land under a tree
@Blakecryderman7244
Жыл бұрын
@@Redline1986 oh okay, good to know. You probably haven’t had a nerdy car guy ask a question like this before lol 😂
@kc0lif
Жыл бұрын
i like that car.
@Gazdatronik
Ай бұрын
There is no way that's a 300k mile car, That 59k on it is all that thing has ever driven. That thing sat. But that is a good thing.
@Redline1986
Ай бұрын
I'd be happy to make a video on all the paperwork I have on it that shows the mileage. I got everything all the way back to 1986.
@zythr9999
Жыл бұрын
Lol they didn't expect it to last beyond 100,000 miles/kms?
@Skyhawk1987Turbo
Жыл бұрын
Omg those are not the original front seats, those a nasty high back seats from a cavalier or sunbird
@tripyramidpictures9224
Жыл бұрын
Too bad you cant find a Citation or Citation XT
@anthony_rivera4735
Жыл бұрын
I miss Oldsmobile, but not the bravada suv which was🤮🤮🤮
@yukonstriker1703
Жыл бұрын
Cavalier wagon lol
@danielcamacho6123
Жыл бұрын
the owner should fix it wagon
@chardelraconner7324
Жыл бұрын
goo ; brake firenzia horn GO not
@chardelraconner7324
Жыл бұрын
gunk is not of america picker glove favorites.... you'n ain't scene?!
@chardelraconner7324
Жыл бұрын
forensics are blogged window tint by lipstick be cautious
@gcooper642
Жыл бұрын
British perspective: Looks like a knock off Volvo. Oldsmobile is such a weird name for a car. Why brand your car old?
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
The name comes from the brand's inventor: Ransom E. Olds. The Curved Dash Oldsmobile. 1903. It has nothing to do with "old". He put his name on the car. Like Ford. And Louis Chevrolet. Nash. Durant. David Dunbar Buick. Kaiser. Frazer. Crosley. Cord.
@gcooper642
Жыл бұрын
@@DaveGreg100 as a person with a car name I can sort of understand that.
@DaveGreg100
Жыл бұрын
@@gcooper642 The Olds Calais I have I named Ransom. When my little brother had it he and his wife named it Marilyn. So now, it's back to me: "Marilyn Ransom"
@khalidsyed142
Жыл бұрын
Will you plz reply me I messaged u in KZitem in ur 3rd last video on tesla
@bwofficial1776
Жыл бұрын
He puts his email in every video. Try that. YT's comment system is buggy.
@michellepollas241
Жыл бұрын
I like the style never have one because I am a Toyota lady
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