Dave was freak of nature in this sport. Can not be replicated. He melded submission techniques with wrestling techniques and developed his own. Having trained both separately, the cerebral level you are on to do that is remarkable. He hobbled out to the mat, polite smile and handshake, and then you were f*****...lol
@lasvegasloner4621
6 жыл бұрын
Josh Field yes great observation and in the same vein I find it fascinating that he was doing that before any big wave of submission or catch wrestling being "big" or trending. Yes, there were some Jiu-jitsu people around and yeah... there were still some tiny numbers of catch wrestling technique guys... and even I remember some of the residual technique for submissions that were simply lingering out of interest while learning folkstyle form each other back in upstate N.Y. Dave however, knew a lot and could connect it to work literally hand in hand with freestyle and folkstyle against other top wrestlers in the world. Most people don't see what I mean when I mention that folkstyle actually has roots in ancient wrestling with submissions (about 99% of everything has roots from somewhere... it's rare to see completely "original" anything these days), but I just thought about it over the years and was inspired but my Jiu-jitsu buddies (who were occasionally dismissing wrestling as a worthless curiosity back in '94 through about 2010) to start digging a little and think about the history of things. It's typical of me to keep pondering while others move on. Sometimes they don't WANT to know the truth. Anyway, of course information about ancient times has to be taken with a grain, and with the internet you can question almost everything you read... but logically you can see where almost all grappling (and civilization, sharing notes, etc...) came from similar roots back in Mesopotamia and/or India many thousands of years ago, and of course without evidence you can simply look at human nature and tell that we were likely grappling as primitives before that. What I see is that after Rome fell that there was more difficulty in continuing classical teaching of some knowledge throughout Europe, such as the plumbing, architecture, combat techniques and medical procedures. We see this every time researchers are baffled about how the Romans (and Greeks, Phoenicians, Egyptians, etc... and basically the world around the mediterranean) accomplished many of the things they did at the time, and though some writings and pictures remain, it's difficult to understand all of it. That means a system of communication was broken. Anyway, in Asia even with their own wars it seems the "Martial Arts" were passed on with some luck, being land-locked in many conflicts and echoing a family-like discipline with some practices, some arts continued especially the last 500 years or so. Therefore it seems the West had no "Martial Arts" when actually there was lots of technique in grappling from those guys and likely originated from the same area Asia got much of it from-- the Sumerians and India more than 5,000 years ago. Point is some catch-wrestling is a blend of Brits and other Europeans sharing techniques with invited jiu-jitsu masters from Japan (around 1889 and 1905), but also with the leftover fighting techniques that were small streams of leftover technique from ancient Rome. It seems it was almost extinct, and of course people can reinvent fighting technique, but some of it just never quite died completely. That's where you get these guys wrestling in the barnstorming days of the U.S. and before, with East Europe connections and families in Pennsylvania having massive matches in the yard for fun, etc... and the midwest carnival wrestlers, so of which were real badasses before "pros" took over to make money.... it's a foggy and messy history but Dave and others are fascinating because they still had some of that background from somebody before.
@joshfield8011
6 жыл бұрын
lasvegasloner love this reply. I will be re reading and studying it. I have introduced some of the people In the ju hits world to him and we discuss him a lot. Before ju hits my roots were freestyle and folkstyle wrestling. I actually still use some things I've stolen from his videos and frustrate people with them. I'm 40 now. I was in youth wrestling at the time and remember be I g in the same gym with him more than once. Wrestling was great in the 90's. Wrestling made a deal with the devil and in return he took our greatest. That's what I say.
@joshfield8011
6 жыл бұрын
lasvegasloner love this reply. Thanks for posting it. I am a history person myself. Your information and thought here is great.
@JS45678
7 жыл бұрын
Identical arm lever technique that Dave pinned Jim Zalesky with at the 1987 US Open. What I'm so impressed with is how methodical from a technical standpoint Dave is in executing offensive or defensive techniques...things seemed to happen so slowly out there for him where, in reality, if you've ever competed, things are moving fast, almost chaotic. Legendary competitor, thank you for posting!
@jahmenjayyygaming8930
7 жыл бұрын
John Smith Marty kistler is one of my wrestling coaches 😂
@SunnyvaleWrestlingClub
7 жыл бұрын
Why is it in this video comment you seem to know who Dave Schultz is and in your other video comment you seem to have no idea and question the quality of his technical instruction? Can you explain that John Smith?
@JS45678
7 жыл бұрын
Sunnyvale Wrestling Club Apologies, my son shares my KZitem account and must have commented on other matches it sounds like. I will remove the comments if I find them inappropriate. My sincere apologies, thank you for posting this great match that I've never seen before until recently.
@SunnyvaleWrestlingClub
7 жыл бұрын
No problem John. All was appropriate in our opinion. Makes some sense that it was two people posting, very different voices.
@johnf8390
4 жыл бұрын
Dave was a man even in high school not only winning the midlands but pinning a 2 time NCAA champion and MVP Chuck Yagla.
@savannahkistler6199
2 жыл бұрын
That's my dad ❤
@Ranqmore
7 ай бұрын
Marty Kistler is my granpa❤️
@johnjensen7812
6 жыл бұрын
Grew up wrestling with Marty in CAGWA. We only actually wrestled once for the CA state Greco championship. I Lost. I also wrestled Dave a couple of times and he stuck me both times with his brutal Hi Turk. When he did that move you were begging for a chance to pin yourself.
@mas2526
Жыл бұрын
Two California State Champs..... 💪🏾💪🏾
@user-gg2rz2fj1u
5 жыл бұрын
Is this the same official from the Randy Lewis match vs Alexeev?
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