it was legal then, dont hate the man for taking advantage of the rules at the time
@cray2349
4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant overtake in my view, on a circuit that like many, only offer limited overtaking for such high performance cars in modern racing. As it was such high risk, (& he got away with it, giving the fans what we want) I'd encourage this kind of thing. Instead of the bland type of racing we often get these days. Either that, or make the tracks better for overtaking 'legitimately.'
@rodrigomendes3327
4 жыл бұрын
It's still legal today. He was offtrack only after he overtakes him, not during the overtake or something. And he left enough room to be overtaked and there was no unsafe return on track too. It was brilliant, legal 30 years ago and perfectly legal today. Brian Herta should do exactly what Prost did on Senna at 89. He should close the door and bang. Because clearly the gap was not there and Zanardi was too optmistic. But for our luck, he didnt do it and the overtake was amazing!
@P1nkR
4 жыл бұрын
Those people have probably become too used to racing with huge runoff area's, artificial "trackside limits" and the arbitrary penalty system that needed to be invented for that. When there is grass, gravel or in this case sand next to the racing track, using it is completely at your own risk.
@bowlchamps37
4 жыл бұрын
@@P1nkR Don´t think it has anything to do with that. It´s just that there are track limits and running off, even after passing the car, just seems weird. Imagine how many unclean overtakes you could do in situations where you can only gain but not lose anything. If this was the norm, racing would be dead.
@rogerarruda3674
3 жыл бұрын
@Guodlca are you seriously comparing the run off area of T1 in monza to that small turn in Laguna? wew. Also in that situation it would just be considered corner cutting, driving straight as if the turn didn't exist
@gigadonis8684
4 жыл бұрын
Stay strong Alex. We all believe in you!
@TacticalCardboard
9 жыл бұрын
I've seen this video about a thousand times, yet it still surprises me that actually happened.
@jordybrock
9 жыл бұрын
They let you blatantly drive off circuit during an overtake and keep the position? @.@
@markthielen1907
9 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that in current F1 he would have been disqualified or something else stupid, not sure how indycar would look at this nowadays. Great driver and move.
@dancalmusic
9 жыл бұрын
Well, Matt, in iRacing this would have been penalized.... ;)
@TacticalCardboard
9 жыл бұрын
Daniele Calzolato (Dan-C) Zanardi's radio : tehy saay u cut da course, yah have ta slow down and give the time bach.
@strayster2
9 жыл бұрын
Empty Box Your "Hot DP Action" video brought me here.
@michaellangston271
Жыл бұрын
CART was the best, i stopped going to these races when IRL took over. As someone commented, CART was on a level with F1. i hope Alex Zanardi is doing well, he has had some very tough breaks.
@satos1
5 жыл бұрын
Love the sound of the engines this era.
@Jrd387
11 ай бұрын
Yes! That high pitch whine… Nothing like it.
@robertwhitten265
Жыл бұрын
These cars look more modern than the current cars.
@Fluckor666
3 ай бұрын
Better cars and better racing
@JONNYGABRIEL18
8 жыл бұрын
Laguna Seca 1996, the Forza 6 multiplayer lobby experience. People cutting corners and shit.
@Z28PAPI
8 жыл бұрын
haha too true! GT: TUPAPICHULO86 incase you want to play with someone who isn't gonna cut every corner.
@fighterck6241
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much how I ran every lap on this track on Forza or Gran Turismo...
@mojojoji5493
5 жыл бұрын
FighterCK gay
@MrGrieves
5 жыл бұрын
Literally every race at Yas Marina
@7jelly777
5 жыл бұрын
Seriously that pass was bullshit
@leannlucas9075
8 жыл бұрын
My husband and I were there that day. We were at the hill. We saw it happen. God, we miss Zanardi and Laguna Seca. What a moment it was.
@ivanbertoni7622
8 жыл бұрын
Dear god, that would be unbelievable. Definitely it's a memory that I deserve
@leannlucas9075
8 жыл бұрын
Sure miss those cars at Laguna Seca. Miss Zanardi too. Love racing!
@lambertomainardi7933
8 жыл бұрын
You were lucky to be there that day, one piece of history in racing. And as italian i'm still proud of this amazing man, that today has won a new gold medal in cycling at the paralympics games, at 49!!!
@leannlucas9075
8 жыл бұрын
Zanardi is a real hero of mine. Through all his tribulations he remained a loving husband, father, friend. He also kept his sense of humor. Love him!
@richardwoodcock849
7 жыл бұрын
We were also on the hill that day. What an amazing race!
@danzyl
9 жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of racing since I've been a little kid. F1, ALMS, LeMans, IndyCar. And I don't remember watching a series that was more exciting and with such awesome quality drivers and cars as CART in the late 90s and early 2000s. Just look at the guys who raced and you'll know it was awesome. CART in those days was almost like an alternative to F1
@Aj85234480
8 жыл бұрын
it certainly was a very good alternative. I watched it then but cannot watch it anymore. the cars are hideous and I am not sure about the talent either.
@bumiboka
8 жыл бұрын
+danzyl thks my friend.....let´s shout it out loud !!!!!! these were the days....of racing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@merboberbo
8 жыл бұрын
+Aj85234480 IndyCar is the best open-wheel racing series. Watch a few races and you'll be more entertained by that than watching an entire season of F1.
@robminmonaca
6 жыл бұрын
merboberbo well thanks to Tony George’s crap in the mid 90s INDYCAR nose dived and tried to make it NASCAR like. Well thank God INDYCAR is getting some interest back especially this year.
@lukmanfirdaus8497
6 жыл бұрын
merboberbo because F1 is boring and filled with sh*t
@Buynot
4 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why people are saying this was an illegal pass. If I'm not mistaken, there wasn't any rules against doing what he did at the time. The rules of modern F1 don't apply to CART in 1996.
@BouncingCow
3 ай бұрын
I do not know the rules from back then. While nosediving is something i can apprechiate, shortcutting seems a bit over the edge to me.
@Fmontes
8 жыл бұрын
Great move, but should not have been allowed to count. Not only were all four wheels off the course when passing, he effectively straight-lined the corkscrew. Herta maintained the racing line - did not straight-line the turn - and thus should've been awarded the win. Ganassi wouldn't even have protested this was so obvious.
@MaistoHelix
8 жыл бұрын
+f montes Totally agree with you, although it was bold he passes the line with all four wheels and was effectively of the track..but still a great moment in racing history!
@Zoomer30
8 жыл бұрын
Yep, would not have held up in F1. Should use the same rules.
@rawkfist1337
8 жыл бұрын
+f montes i think the new rules "keep all four wheels on the racing line" were made because there is no gras, sand or whatever next to the track nowadays. so shortcutting would be easy. in the case of zanardi it is ok to me because he could have lost the car or atleast a lot of time --> i am happy with that "legal pass"
@MaistoHelix
8 жыл бұрын
+Zoomer30 it's not about F1 in any race class it is a no go to cross the white line with 4 wheels because you get black flagged
@punklancelot6148
7 жыл бұрын
The pass was initiated and completed with all four wheels on the circuit; however, he went four off in the next corner. When Zanardi went off course, he was already in the lead. Since there was no lead change during the off, the pass should count. I believe any car can go off circuit and as long as there is no position change, there is nothing illegal about it.
@marcelloribeiro2750
10 жыл бұрын
I really miss CART.
@greatestbrand5191
10 жыл бұрын
me too
@JasonChannell
6 жыл бұрын
Marcello Ribeiro we all do.
@robminmonaca
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tony George
@domenicmariani1849
6 жыл бұрын
FTG FTG!
@Sincopare
6 жыл бұрын
Permanently in mourning
@unrequited8200
5 жыл бұрын
LMAO the ole Laguna Seca "apron-cut". Been doing that one myself since Gran Turismo on PS1 XD
@FRS_Heero
3 жыл бұрын
Word
@brandoncreswell
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many times Ross Chastain watched this
@andrewwinslow9315
Жыл бұрын
He had Greg Moore, Dale Sr. and Dan Wheldon at least riding inside the car guiding him when he made that move. The Racing Gods kept him alive and in contention.
@davebaer8504
Жыл бұрын
To this day I don't understand how this was a legal pass. Such is life.
@wrapdump
2 жыл бұрын
Replace Herta with Verstappen and both cars would have been on the back of a truck
@DVDFerrari5
9 жыл бұрын
That's some desperate iRacing shit right there.
@bumiboka
8 жыл бұрын
+Dominic D'Alesio so this is why it is called racing...!!!!
@arielhartung4557
7 жыл бұрын
"They say you cut the course, you have to give back the time gained."
@HugoStiglitz88
6 жыл бұрын
Ariel Hartung Exactly LOL
@HugoStiglitz88
6 жыл бұрын
in iracing you'd 100% get a penalty for this.
@gozinta82
6 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for the microphone graphic to pop up in the middle of the screen and hear some person screaming vulgarities and threatening reporting. Man this video is triggering from my rookie days.
@UnimatrixOne
5 жыл бұрын
FIA today: 5 sec penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage + 5 sec penalty for returning unsafely
@joaopicaify
5 жыл бұрын
Wich would not have being wrong at all in this case
@Dischingo
4 жыл бұрын
@@joaopicaify Meanwhile FIA during the early 90s whats that I see dangerous driving I LOVE IT keep it going.
@tmaster8031
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think CART was an FIA event but correct me if I’m wrong
@heretustay
3 жыл бұрын
i miss CART/Champ Car :(
@JG54206
10 жыл бұрын
Track limits anyone? I hate this bullshit too about scrutinizing every passing maneuver, but that was definitely gaining an advantage with all 4 wheels off track.... he braked later than he knew he could, and used an area that is not the racing surface to keep his position.
@dyWalti
6 жыл бұрын
This cut cost him more time
@Silentway247
6 жыл бұрын
Right, but the problem is he cost the other driver to lose time. Not only did the other driver have to back out to avoid a collision, he almost hit him again as Z reenetered the track. Clear advantage on a poor overtake
@kpcart
6 жыл бұрын
time is not the issue, he gained a position!
@sergiohincapie4201
6 жыл бұрын
Fully agree with you
@JL-cn1qi
6 жыл бұрын
Different times,... The shit Prost and Senna pulled back in the day at Suzuka wouldn't fly these days neather. Schumacher tried those old school tricks ( tho very dirty and poorly exicuted) and lost all his points. Rightly so. But different times different rules.
@crusherbmx
7 жыл бұрын
CART in the 1990s was pretty awesome, it only failed due to politics. This should be the model for fixing F1, just give it a few minor tweaks and you'd be good to go. I'd say it should also be the model for fixing IndyCar but that is A: obvious and B: impossible, the politics haven't changed and probably never will.
@sneezabonk
6 жыл бұрын
crusherbmx Indy is going back in the CART direction. They used the design of CART for their safer car. They also brought back Portland. Of course the on going joke about bringing back Laguna Seca.
@carlosb1
3 жыл бұрын
The 90's were great, early to mid 2000's not bad.
@w.arnold8806
3 жыл бұрын
Luckily, things have already changed. The Indycar season this year (2021) is one of the best ever. I was a fan of Indycar/CART/Champcar in the 90s. And if you take your time and watch some of those old races (even the better ones) you'll see what a really great time we have as fans of Indycar racing today.
@PJ2436
14 жыл бұрын
in F1, zanardi would've gotten like, a 30 second penalty for that overtake.
@truantray
3 жыл бұрын
He should have. It's called cheating.
@mattsuper1366
3 жыл бұрын
@@truantray no, it's legal, he got off track only after passing Herta, plus he lost time by going off track
@doriancarriat4241
3 жыл бұрын
@@mattsuper1366 No. In modern F1 it would not be legal. You can't say "he got off track only after passing Herta". Man, he got off track because he brake too late when he was BEHIND Herta. He did not complete the pass, he overtake Herta BECAUSE he was too fast to make the first corner.
@halonsox
3 жыл бұрын
Totally. A shame.
@halonsox
3 жыл бұрын
@@truantray no he shouldn't. Its call racing...
@P1nkR
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a religious man but then again I tend to not have any "heroes" either. I guess today it's time to start praying, for our legend and hero Alex Zanardi.
@arjanarendsen5414
4 жыл бұрын
P1nkR #Forza Alex !!!!
@OEdwardsZ34
2 жыл бұрын
That’s an lllegal pass despite my love for Zanardi
@ICKY427
5 жыл бұрын
"they say ya cut the course!"
@henbe2
4 жыл бұрын
'' Give up the time gained''
@baTonkaTruck
3 жыл бұрын
Went straight to the comments looking for my iRacing peoples.
@-BuddyGuy
3 жыл бұрын
"They say you fucked a horse"
@aaronersoy3888
2 жыл бұрын
Those were the best looking, best sounding cars. F1 had nothing on them.
@mikaelsmith5094
25 күн бұрын
Are u crazy? F1 have always been superior BY FAR. The only thing F1 doesn't have is Laguna Seca.
@aaronersoy3888
25 күн бұрын
@@mikaelsmith5094 the only thing F1 doesn't have is Road America, Laguna seca and The Indianapolis 500. F1 is a sh*t show now. Devalued by politics and outsider influence.
@mikaelsmith5094
25 күн бұрын
@@aaronersoy3888 So you compare Formula CART in the 1996 to the actual F1? Compare it to the 90s era of Formula 1 and let's see. Then what about 24h of Le Mans? Montecarlo street circuit, Spa Francorchamp Eau Rouge, Monza the temple of speed, Suzuka, Interlagos. Amazing circuits in which no car of any category can beat a F1 ever. F1 is the ultimate car for racing whether u like it or not. Unless u wanna just go fast and turn left like Indianapolis.
@aaronersoy3888
24 күн бұрын
@@mikaelsmith5094 I'll spell it out so you understand. Formula one, boring. Indycar not boring. FIA WEC not boring. Rally not boring. Formula one boring. I appreciate all motorsport, but formula one is like watching the Kardashians with race cars.
@mikaelsmith5094
24 күн бұрын
@@aaronersoy3888 Best drivers in the world are in Formula 1. That's why it's boring. 'cause they are all very close. All other categories have more difference and they result more exciting. Spell this.
@riverpage7896
2 жыл бұрын
My dad calls it “the Zanardi line” and every time he sees me cut the quark screw on the sim he says that lol
@BDCMatt
Жыл бұрын
We have the same dad lmao.
@B__L
7 ай бұрын
quark screw
@riverpage7896
7 ай бұрын
@@B__L yes that’s what the corner is called
@B__L
7 ай бұрын
@@riverpage7896 Corkscrew.
@kuroneko9270
4 ай бұрын
@@riverpage7896 I'm pretty sure it's spelled "corkscrew", but I can see why you thought it was written that way.
@haglerminter
7 жыл бұрын
American open wheel racing at its best - full spectator stands too! How things change
@Dredre1069
14 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh The Golden Age of CART/INDY loooong gone never to return.
@AndreaRoll
10 жыл бұрын
the question is not if it was legal or not. The question is it was done on a completely blind braking ( when you brake at corckscrew you do it not being able to see the turn itself ) in a place that allows no room for mistake and it was done with the ability of a balance cyrcus performer where noone else would have ever tought it was possible to pass like that. This basically sums up to me the pure essence of motorracing. plus it may be not legal by today standards but the manouver wasn't penalized back than so IT WAS FUCKIN LEGAL! you can stop the fuss now
@newhampshiregold
10 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this race and I was pissed off then and now watching it for the first since, I'm just as pissed off! It was a 'Kamikaze' move then and is now again, after watching the video. He made a risky move [blind entry] and got lucky. Make a move like that in F1 and he would be looking for a new ride. You just do not drive an open wheel race car like that. He should be driving Nascar. Ya, I know a win is a win, but that was the cheesiest win I ever saw, come on.
@AndreaRoll
10 жыл бұрын
if you feel this was kamikaze move you may not want to watch Dijon 1979 duel between arnoux and villeneuve, you would ask for them be both arrested
@nathanpeabody4388
9 жыл бұрын
newhampshiregold2012 Bottom line is people like you and the rest of the safety nuts have turned motorsports into the disaster it is. Just like when people freaked out about Senna's tragic end. When you take away the chance for competition and you take away the inherent risk what are you left with? Crap! Trash! Nothing worth watching. These drivers knew the risks and they still climbed in the cockpits because they are gladiators. I am not saying all safety changes are bad or that all motorsports are no fun. I am simply stating that the risk is the appeal. Look at Formula 1 now. Mercedes rode around with nearly no competition and Indycar produces cookie cutter races that utilize generic machines. Why? Because safety and cost have destroyed the world of motorsports. Seriously man come on. I would take F-1's V8s, V10s, and V12s with manual transmissions that might be a little unsafe on tracks that are dangerous any day of the week over the garbage I still suffer through. All we can hope is that rules aficionados such as yourself lighten up and allow motorsports especially open-wheel to come back to a respectable period. I mean the current F-1 machines have dildo's for noses...in the name of fuel efficiency. They are F-1 machines that get horrible mileage so what. Eventually if you had your way we would watch The Toyota Prius Cup at BP Laguna Seca Go Kart Course!
@SadisticStang
11 жыл бұрын
"...an area you would not normally pass" Ya no shit? Because it's dangerous and he didn't pass him on the race track - he went flying off it and then took the position. This is why the F1 rule of giving the place back is crucial and would have been serving a purpose in this scenario.
@OhItsThat
5 жыл бұрын
When race cars were really really really cool.
@Seekay_
5 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself the following question: Would Zanardi have been able to overtake Herta if he had entered the corkscrew slowly enough to avoid putting all 4 wheels off the track? If the answer is "no", then Zanardi gained an advantage by going off the track and this should've been an illegal overtake.
@parkeasd1671
5 жыл бұрын
Not with 1996 rule.
@INDIGOBLUE555
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, yet I have no knowledge of the CART regulations concerning a situation as such. The overtaking itself was clean albeit clearly Zanardi was aware he couldn't keep the car on the track .....
@peggygeren4169
4 жыл бұрын
@@INDIGOBLUE555 The track was defined as the metaled surface, and his left side wheels stayed on the asphalt patch inside the curbs.
@INDIGOBLUE555
4 жыл бұрын
@@peggygeren4169 So the tarmac slice beyond the curb was still to be considered "track" ...... Herta didn't complain as far as I know, so no matter if Zanardi was cheating or simply smartly playing with the regulations.
@peggygeren4169
4 жыл бұрын
@@INDIGOBLUE555Probably the asphalt strip inside was added to prevent dust and stones being thrown onto the track when cars put their inside wheels over the curbs. They failed to adapt the rules to match that intent. It was probably Zanardi's last chance to pass, and after the "save" he made a few laps earlier when he went all the way onto the dirt, downhill at very high speed, Alex probably thought he could do anything with the car. He tried it and it worked & turned out to be technically legal. The pass itself was done so quickly and decisively with Zanardi making his intention clear that Herta had to let him go past, so Z was only putting himself at risk. Alex was slower on corner exit and I think Bryan could have repassed if he hadn't already decided that it was illegal. You can tell that initially he loomed right up on the tail at the bottom of the corkscrew and then seemed to relax all the way to the finish. Rahal team may not have officially lodged a protest, but I bet something was said initially. I feel sorry for him because he was leading the race on his own speed for once, when so many times his team would try some fuel-saving strategy that ended up hurting him by the end.
@FallingPicturesProductions
8 жыл бұрын
That's some Gran Turismo 2 shit right there.
@benfennell6842
5 жыл бұрын
I fucking love this comment
@tobyreinhardt9022
6 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been truly awesome if the pass was clean.
@Silent_Shadow
5 жыл бұрын
Forza online lobby pass! LoL Amazing drive but not so sure about gaining an advantage off track.
@HayTatsuko
15 жыл бұрын
I saw the original broadcast of this race... it's been over a decade and it still stands as one of the finest moments of auto-racing badassery I've ever seen.
@billybobhammer
9 жыл бұрын
The greatest period in America auto racing history. It's a shame that Tony George destroyed the greatest racing America has ever seen.
@hugolafhugolaf
6 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@gozinta82
6 жыл бұрын
Greatest period, but not the greatest move performed. Poorly executed.
@FOH3663
6 жыл бұрын
Great period no doubt, the quality drivers, teams, and solid sponsors, all good. Although I've not been to Laguna Seca for IndyCar, I traveled to many IndyCar races around the country as a fan. Also, in my opinion the heyday of CanAm racing, simultaneous with Indy Champ cars, and then (a fave memory for me) was USAC Stock cars, Al and Bobby Unser, Don White, Roger McClusky, Mario Andretti, Parnelli Jones, AJ Foyt, on everything from pavement, dirt, to road courses. Great time for sure, a lot of the impact was simply being from Indianapolis, with so much incredible racing all around (Fairgrounds mile dirt, Indianapolis Raceway Park's oval, and road course, Speedrome 1/4 mile paved, and of course IMS.) Incredible memories in addition to 8mm film (w/sound) documenting a variety of them.
@aperson5062
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, but the Indycar race this weekend, 2019, should be pretty darn good, and is CART having won that fight. I mean the IRL is dead, Tony George is nowhere, and Indycar is again the best drivers from all over the world driving road, street and oval courses.
@DavidRSAT
5 жыл бұрын
A Person It’s getting there... I hope.
@aperson5062
5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be allowed today, you can't leave the course to pass. Great move, but still would be required to give the spot back. Brian was robbed of that win.
@schumacher180racing
11 жыл бұрын
You know, I became an IRL fan since the split because I love oval racing when it comes to American Open Wheel... But let me tell you, this gives me goosebumps everytime I watch it, Alex Zanardi IS a superb driver/athlete and person, I have lots of respect for this man. What a class act!
@tknagano3498
4 жыл бұрын
A last word on Alex Zanardi’s illegal pass. For real racers like Bryan Herta, Bobby Rahal and Rahal Racing, their correct decision NOT to protest the track shortening pass, says it’s less about written rules ( Indycar vs Formula 1 ) and more about sport. TK
@kmastersegment6
Жыл бұрын
I was working in Parker Johnstone's Corp tent that day. Free food and drink of course, Woot-WOOT ! Watched on a few tv monitors. When "the pass" occurred, everyone in the tent , went outside their minds !
@leonardosilvaconrado4796
6 жыл бұрын
Finally Laguna Seca is back to the Indycar Schedule.
@ballaking1000
6 жыл бұрын
It's sad what 5 years into the future had in store for him but it's amazing he's alive and well today and seems very very happy and at peace. What an amazing man!!!
@kennethkilleen8758
3 жыл бұрын
Got hit by a bus since. He is like rasputin.
@rodrigofonseca1160
Жыл бұрын
The number of people watching Indycar has not decreased, but the number of people willing to watch it LIVE has...there are lots of factors for this, fuel is more expensive, so going THERE is more expensive. TV quality was horrible back them, but now you can have a super high quality image with full surround sound in the comfort of your home. Safety standards in the tracks also reduced the maximum capacity and increased ticket prices...I could go on and on...
@flagtheoffense
Жыл бұрын
Anyone else here because of what Ross Chastain just did in NASCAR?
@gregfrith5058
Жыл бұрын
Yep!
@8-bitsteve500
5 жыл бұрын
I have a ton of respect for Alex, but c'mon that was a completely illegal move, totally off track.
@parkeasd1671
5 жыл бұрын
Not with 1996 rule
@jamesstewart1794
5 жыл бұрын
What a yoke
@Catcrumbs
5 жыл бұрын
What was the rule in 1996?
@emi-bs1hb
5 жыл бұрын
@@Catcrumbs there wasn't a rule about "overtaking with all 4 wheels off the track" so it was a fair move in 1996
@INDIGOBLUE555
4 жыл бұрын
@@emi-bs1hb That's weird indeed....That move was 100%unfair imho. If cutting inside the curbs at such extent was a legal move,we should have seen several drivers acting like that in the years. I wouldn't say it was so common pulling such a move "willingly"....how frequently did we see similar behaviours ? Zanardi did it,in full awareness of the fact he could no way keep the car on the roadcourse. Nice guy yet unfair playing.
@wadedixon6780
5 жыл бұрын
Don’t know if it was a “brilliant move”, if herta had turned in they both would have been out.
@MobySlick
5 жыл бұрын
Not brilliant at all. Zanardi has always been bit to crazy.
@emi-bs1hb
5 жыл бұрын
@@MobySlick If you are not crazy you aren't racing in indycar, especially in 1996
@jjmoto65
5 жыл бұрын
Kind of a reckless move. There was no way he was going to make the corner. Good job by Herta maintaining his(correct) line. The racing line.
@pixelghostclyde8717
4 жыл бұрын
If it's the racing line, why did Herta finish in second? (/s, but only to an extent)
@Mcali1984
3 жыл бұрын
He made the pass before going off track. But yeah, it was reckless, but, he still made the pass. Hehe
@RodimusPrime
2 жыл бұрын
Zanardi in that target car was absolute magic, should have never left to go to F1, what could have been......
@tycash9583
9 жыл бұрын
I like all kids of racing zanardi didn't advance his position until the came out of corkscrew f1 fans r so conservative they like when nobody passes red bull for 4 years straight or Mercedes for the past year in a half cart back then is more skill and drive where f1 is all car. all I'm sayin the 300 million dollar car racing should be better then the 20mil dollar car so if u comparing u just bitter f1 fans will fuck up a wet dream if ain't ain't within the rules
@Jizzle76
5 жыл бұрын
Zanardi - along with Montoya - were my favourite Indycar drivers ever. They were both amazing and outstanding in equal measure. That said, this is the most overrated ‘overtake’ in the history of motor racing
@edgarteran1894
3 жыл бұрын
I was there as a photojournalist and I shot the pass at cork screw. Bryan and team Rahal were stunned
@Synystr7
6 жыл бұрын
"12 years ago" holy shit.
@GeorgeGraves
8 жыл бұрын
Le Ann Lucsa - I too was there - right at the cork screw! right under a tree there walking back to the pits - turned around, and (what he video doesn't show is that he got a bit air born going over the rumble strip). I could not believe it. I drove up from Santa Barbara for the day. Expected a good show, but not that! Laguna Seca is a really awesome track. And yes, the officials should have called that an off track excursion. That whole season was awesome.
@peggygeren4169
4 жыл бұрын
He kept two wheels on the metalled surface, therefore legal through a loophole in the rules.
@ralphgregory7616
2 жыл бұрын
2 wheels on #legal
@GTI8855
2 жыл бұрын
I think, this overtake was illegal. 5 seconds penalty.
@Nebula_Ultra
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@AvantiMoltoVeloce
4 жыл бұрын
Football has "the hand of God" of Maradona. Motor racing has this. Go Alex.. we're all with you!!!
@AndreaRoll
8 жыл бұрын
20 years later this is still THE PASS
@silent_fluo6917
8 жыл бұрын
Andrea Roll amazing right? illegal as fuck tho with current regulations
@gozinta82
6 жыл бұрын
And much more difficult giving there are multiple curb/bumps over the apex now.
@-Bearito
2 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, in F1: - This is Race Control, Zanardi, please give back your position, you drove off track limits
@rodneysammons5544
2 жыл бұрын
That feels like cutting in line while stumbling
@PYLrulz1984
13 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the race. When I saw Zinardi pull that off, I about flipped the couch in amazement. The move that defined his career, and probably one of the best passes in the history of auto racing
@Antros23
Жыл бұрын
Best passes? Illegal by all means.. cutting a corner
@PYLrulz1984
Жыл бұрын
@@Antros23 but it wasn’t, so…
@gozorak
Жыл бұрын
@@Antros23 Its called creating your own racing line. Its what happens when a hungry, aggressive driver is breathing down the neck of a less hungry and less aggressive leader on the final lap.
@cirian75
2 жыл бұрын
This what we mean by "Full Send"
@TeamBombersportsUK
9 жыл бұрын
F1 logic: 'Hey it's impossible to pass here' (Someone passes there) 'WTF PENALTY DRIVE THROUGH OMG' You want to win casual fans over? You don't do it by gimmicks or playoffs - you do it by celebrating racing like this, not by instantly going OHHHH HE WENT OVER A WHITE LINE OMG SO ILLEGAL. I'd rather watch racing like this than 1000 invincible DRS overtakes in a straight line. This took real guts, and judging by his lack of traction and how close he was to loosing the car both off the track and getting back on, I'm not sure he 'gained an advantage' by going off. But I forget. In F1's world, someone taking a risk must be illegal.
@frise6183
6 жыл бұрын
Praising someone for blatantly cutting a corner and giving him the win is exactly what's wrong with sports in the US. Too much show for dumb casual viewers, not enough actual sport.
@riquelmeone
4 жыл бұрын
I heard he had a bad crash today and is being brought to hospital.
@defmud80
5 жыл бұрын
I was standing under the trees at the bottom of the corkscrew with my dad and brother.
@FormulaFox
15 жыл бұрын
White lines do NOT normally mark an out-of-bounds zone - that is usually what a YELLOW line is used for. White lines are present primarily as a visual cue to help drivers keep track of their proximity to the edge. CART always deferred to the track owners and officials about what was legal and what wasn't. If they say that was legally part of the track, then it was. Yes, Herta had good reason to protest(it WAS questionable), but according to the rules the move was legal. Just.
@MatthewDaSmitdog
7 жыл бұрын
Say whatever you want on it being legal/illegal, but that was the most ballsy move of a race driver ever. If his car could've held through that apex inside the corkscrew (i.e. not going off track on exit), I don't think it'd have been as big an issue as it ended up. Anyway you look, epically ballsy.
@kn00tcn
6 жыл бұрын
all these comments acting like there was a calculated decision in cutting that needs to be penalized... it's not that clear, this is tens of milliseconds, the limit of human reflexes, he tried to brake right after herta as all braking overtakes work, he could have crashed into the wall, the car could have been damaged, he was even about to get passed back on the way out
@cloane85
4 жыл бұрын
I happened to be there that day. I was 10 years old, Shaquille O'Neal Magic jersey, worst sunburn of my life. I actually didn't fully understand what had even happened on that day and that this one would go down as legendary! The thing I actually remember the most was one of the cars caught on fire right in front of us. It was a blue color if my memory serves me right. What a crazy day.
@jamesnewbury6354
6 жыл бұрын
was that a legal pass? like can you go off track like that? :o
@DaylightDigital
11 жыл бұрын
That move is a cheat as far as I am concerned
@randyrahn3158
Жыл бұрын
I was lucky to watch that live as a turn Marshall. Turn 9 I believe. Andretti got his divorce finalized that weekend. Working blue flag that weekend. Best pass ever!!!
@Zzorrkk
13 жыл бұрын
CART was simple great. Great racing on very cool racetracks. I loved it and despite having the better drivers F1 wasn't as exciting very often back then.
@alanburge2725
Жыл бұрын
Cart racing or IndyCar in the 1990s. One of the best American racing categories ever surely ? Ahh what a flashback. Great drivers and teams. Great racing. Well I tell you I really miss it for sure anyway.......
@supremeleadergnkdroid3202
5 жыл бұрын
and then, 23 years later, the man's son won the race
@jacobolson6145
Жыл бұрын
Found this while looking up the rush song but as a racing fan pleasantly surprised with this haha
@nascarsteve
3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this, one of the ballsiest moves and one of the greatest pieces of car control I've ever seen.
@naspotsev4658
4 ай бұрын
I loved Zanardi. And maybe it was a legal pass at the time. But… he was just lucky that Herta saw him coming. This should have been a crash and it would have been on Alex.
@Dredre1069
14 жыл бұрын
Great race I remember watching this live back in the day it was carzy!! Herta looked like he wanted to cry after the race
@sadsharksvehementcomics8265
3 жыл бұрын
I don't care about your nostalgia that's just plain old fucking cheating for Zanardi to pass out of bounds. Not impressed. ANybody can cut the track to pass someone, that's why it's called CUTTING and also called CHEATING!
@JS-mr2ei
9 жыл бұрын
The good ole days before Tony George ruined everything. At least we have the memories and KZitem to relive them.
@TAVIII
9 жыл бұрын
+Joe Seijo 1996 bro
@MrDowntownLA
6 жыл бұрын
A last word about Alex Zarandi's illegal pass. For real racers like Bryan Hurta, Bobby Rahal and Bobby Rahal Racing, their correct decision not to protest the track shortening pass, says less about written rules (indycar vs formula 1) and more about sport. TK
@TheCheesyProductions
9 жыл бұрын
It's not exactly a fair overtake, but I think it should be legal. When he went off there, he was partly on the sand and also went over the extremely bumpy curbs. If he gained any time, it was probably marginal. Also, even if this is legal nowadays, driver will never cut the corner repeatedly as it will destroy their suspension.
@99percenter1
8 жыл бұрын
+TheCheesyProductions As I was writing a reply, I decided your comment is just too stupid to bother, except to say this.
@Rikalonius
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, modern F1 that would have been a 5 second penalty. I don't think many could have pulled that off, it was a bit of luck too. I miss the 90s CART era. It sucked once the IRL split the series.
@K9RacingAndStuff
9 жыл бұрын
I don't see how people can't see that this was an unsportsmanlike pass, even if not explicitly barred. Track limits exist for a reason, and without obedience to such, you get incidents like the Formula Renault 2.0 fiasco at Paul Ricard. And even without the wreck, it simply comes down to being unsportsmanlike. There's a reason why in every game with a penalty system at that course, you'd receive some sort of penalty there. Same as if Zanardi had an opportunity to make a pass on the pit road exit approaching turn 1. There's a reason why any driver that makes an overtake like that forgives the position on their own valor: sportsmanship. And regardless of spectacle, it's still wrong. Had Herta not backed off, it would've been two wrecked vehicles. And if you want to argue about motorsports not being fair, don't bitch about the money crisis of F1, Red Bull between 2012 and 2014, or anything else. And certainly don't bitch about the start of the GP3 race at Sochi. Me thinks the defenders don't want to ruin a feel-good ending. You know, like how almost everybody defends the pass the Audi made on the Vette and the Peugeot in 2011, which would've been illegal then, and still illegal now, as showed by the most recent race at Silverstone.
@ChaseIngersol
9 жыл бұрын
+FormulaChris085 What happened at Paul Ricard with the 2.0's? I can't find any info on it.
@nunobits12
9 жыл бұрын
A driver was decapitated because of a similar passing move
@ChaseIngersol
9 жыл бұрын
+nino Barlini Dear god, what year was that?
@Noxon19
9 жыл бұрын
+FormulaChris085 f**k the unsportsmanlike like pass he made a risky move and it was amazing to watch, sure the position should of been swapped after a review but how stupid would it of looked if he just gave it back
@kfoalbfkdkd5302
8 жыл бұрын
+nino Barlini when was it
@Christian-xb7ve
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else here right after Grosjean's move?
@diegobert4033
3 жыл бұрын
He made like 4-5 Zanardi passes lol
@mariacardenas8539
4 жыл бұрын
My husband and I were at the corkscrew that day and witnessed this first hand. Legendary!
@ravex24
5 жыл бұрын
I love people's logic here. Are we also going to judge all other sports moments based on current rules that didn't exist when the moment happened? Hell, if you look at the NFL, just about every game in it's history would be considered cheating and unsportmanlike by the defense these days. Or the NHL and it's icing rules, you guys would call those dirty as hell the way they chased after the puck and ran each other into the boards. Or baseball where obvious intentional beaning of a batter is given at least warning these days, if not automatic ejection? Back in the day, it was just part of the game. Rules change and people play by the rules given to them at the time. Either deal with it or we have to go back and rewrite most of the history of sports throughout the world.
@BGone-mb7wz
6 жыл бұрын
I love the way everyone that's had a winge about the 'pass' does so through the prism of 'today' rather than an understanding of the context of 'then'. 'Then' if you wanted to go 'cross country' and cut out road surface, you could. Because it was not going to be to your advantage. You could also continue to race in the pit lane. As for sportsmanship? Pfft. There is none! It's a business. A business which, until ten years ago, give or take, operated under the incorrect assumption of sportsmanship, rather than the respect or disrespect drivers held for each other. Sportsmanship is for sport...
@theelectrichobo829
5 жыл бұрын
Dumbass...racing is a sport as well as a business...the same as football or horse racing.
@doric_historic
5 жыл бұрын
Shit move followed by shit officiating. No way Zanardi could pass Herta cleanly and drove off the track, white lines dictate the track limits. Not quite a brilliant move as Herta had to turn away from Zanardi, Herta could have turned in on Zanardi as would have been his right.
@fmartingorb
5 жыл бұрын
It was one of those amazing races I saw live and never forget
@uyou2tube
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like this should be a thing in all racing. Especially f1. On otherwise slow corners put some sausage curbs and obstacles to potentially destroy your car by going over but allow passing to be done across them. That’s triple the excitement. Will he cash, will he hit the other driver, will he gain the position. Enough sterilization and rules add safe yet exciting obstacles to pass. Do this on catalyuna since the track is notorious for not allowing passing. First corner add a cut zone but put obnoxious bumpy curbs to make it a last resort effort to pass people.
@CiPhEr505
9 жыл бұрын
I think, if you had to be the review judge on this one, you just have to give it to the guy who had the stones to overtake on the stupidest turn there is on the CART circuit. This is so crazy, unexpected, unsafe, and a miracle he held the car together afterwards, that everybody has shat too many bricks celebrating for some higher authority to take it away. What you do as a judge is put the rules in place afterwards that never ever allow for these sorts of events again, and you let the world file this pass in the Hall of Fame.
@lonewolf2513
3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't called the wild Italian for nothing 😂😂😂 seriously though who in IndyCar is about to attempt this today
@retromaniaco_br7422
3 жыл бұрын
The definition of FULLY SEND IT!
@suzannebell4561
3 жыл бұрын
I was there...in the port-a-pot right next to the track. For the life of me I couldn't understand why the crowd and announcers were going ape shit. Poor Herta. Alex Zanardi was amazing to watch.
@tamburello9902
2 жыл бұрын
Goosebumps at 4:44 when you can hear and see both cars drop the throttle and drag-race out of the chaos of the corkscrew.
@Mmmti
2 жыл бұрын
They sound so damn good too
@andybailey6763
Жыл бұрын
Here in 2023 still missing those Cosworth XB powered Reynards.
@UKOGcronnie
10 жыл бұрын
This is without a doubt the shittest overtake ever. He missed the apex of the first part of the chicane, completely ran over the track on the 2nd part. Rubbish. "The pass" my arse.
@NicholasStrand
10 жыл бұрын
But, at least he held on to it.
@hristoitchov
10 жыл бұрын
You're simply clueless. There are absolutely no guarantees he could hold the car over the big curb and sliding into the sand, then coming out still in front of Herta. He gambled everything on it and it worked out. No shitty push to pass, DRS or whatever gimmicks.
@UKOGcronnie
10 жыл бұрын
He had every guarantee! He's a professional racing driver, and that fact drivers the world over veer off onto the grass or dirt without losing the back end is proof that this is the shittest overtake ever. You cannot call it a good overtake when he missed his brake point. If he got it under control on the black stuff after outbraking himself I would be applauding. I guess theres a reason why he was out shone by Ralf Schumacher in F1.
@hristoitchov
10 жыл бұрын
UKOGcronnie You just don't get it. Considering how far back he was, he had no other option but to outbrake himself. You can't defy the laws of physics, so if he braked early to make the corner, he wouldn't have made the pass and you would still be bitching about how he's not good enough. I guess there's no pleasing the kinds of you.
@---jm2sr
6 жыл бұрын
UKOGcronnie Hey, well Senna tried a similar move in 1989 but look how that turned out.
@bigrooster6893
2 жыл бұрын
Should’ve been penalized for exceeding track limits.
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