Hi Mike, I also have the same exact motor. In 2012 both of my tilt & trim relays stopped working. I took both relays out, and shot a lot of WD-40 into the relays. WD-40 started to overflow from within the relays, so I knew it was time to stop adding WD-40. Today is 11/11/18 and those same two relays have been working since I shot WD-40 in them six years ago. If you ever have any problems with your relays, which was my problem, simply spray your relays with WD-40 and they’ll work like new. Great videos sir!!!
@ajcourchesnejr
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just bought a 1997 40hp Force lots of useful info. Thanks again
@jameswhitt1123
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your help..
@MrSneekn4u
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike 👍
@tfrantastic
11 ай бұрын
I have a 1996 Force. My local guy has lots of experience on Force motors. I jsut took it in and paid him for 5 hours of time on the motor. Everything has been adjusted, cleaned and replaced. Thing runs like a top now. I’m going to keep an eye on your channel for content.
@tfrantastic
11 ай бұрын
5 hours for the boat and motor…to be clear
@nessa_pandes1863
8 ай бұрын
can you hook me up with your guy looking for foot for 1998 force 40 hp
@Leroylundberg24
Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike, thank you..
@toddtownsend3860
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this info
@franciscosalas8464
4 жыл бұрын
hey Mike regards from cd. Obregon Sonora Mexico!!!
@AdventureCayman
8 жыл бұрын
I have a 1998 version of this outboard and it's a love hate relationship. I love it because it just runs and runs and runs without a problem. I just had it out last weekend in fact and it ran perfectly. The hate part of the relationship is the engine is underpowered compared to other 40hp outboards. I actually think it's more like a 30-35hp at best. I really can't complain because it's been used in salt water it's entire life and still runs and looks great. I am going to install the water telltale on mine, I saw the brass plug on the top of the engine on mine, so it's a 10 minute install.
@kennyhanes3598
4 жыл бұрын
Mine felt underpowered as well. Till i took the hood off and manually pushed down on the throttle. Culprit was worn out towershaft bearings. I was only getting maybe 3/4 throttle if that. Needless to say it pushed my 17 foot allwelded aluminum duracraft 36mph(gps calculated on phone and humminbird gps) upriver with me and my brother in it. Were both big guys. Id say about 650 pounds combined between me and him. Plus 3 deep cycle batteries.
@mennowzer4164
11 ай бұрын
This solved my issue too. Until I adjusted the lever, the throttle couldn’t get the carb to open all the way
@andyd3540
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Where did you buy the the quarter inch brass fitting and clear tube Pee line?
@williamriley2528
5 жыл бұрын
Force outboards are the old Chrysler Marine Division that was then eventually bought by Mercury Marine... The early word was they were down on power compared to the other Big 4 outboards because the Force outboards were HP rated at the power head and not at the prop shaft as the Mercury & OMC outboards were.
@reggiepoplin126
9 ай бұрын
Got one and it quit after one tank of gas. Replacing the fuel lines and filter tomorrow along with the plugs . Will l maybe get up with you if. no luck. Great video!
@treyurban3626
Жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. I'm looking for the thermostat so I can clean or replace it. I changed the water pump earlier in the year and it's putting out plenty of water but the overheat horn is chirping. Can you tell me where I can find it?
@robertsaylor4577
4 жыл бұрын
How do you get the square plastic piece out to add the pee line?
@denoc817
3 жыл бұрын
Mike, can you make a video on how to adjust the timing and how to test the ignition coils. Thank you
@lonniehuddleston4196
7 жыл бұрын
very informative video. thanks. I have a 1997 Force 40 hp. I hate the way the motor spits water instead of a stream. I want try this fix. my only concern is will this cause any damage to the motor. does it prevent the cooling water to circulate throughout the entire head ? thanks again
@glennwright9119
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed yours doesn’t have that kick in it while it’s ideling how do you get that out I have a 1995 25 mariner on my pro16
@andrewsmith941
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 1999 Fisher stick steer boat that seems to be about the same size as your boat. Do you know what size prop is on your outboard I also have a 40hp Force
@Chris351971
8 жыл бұрын
I have the 1996 version while mine idles a little lower at around 800 rpm it runs really well. Yes those motor are known to vibrate very bad. Only issue I've had with mine was I had to have the lower rebuilt and mine has a slight miss in it at WOT that I have yet to figure out. Other that it has been a very good motor.
@miketoole5574
8 жыл бұрын
You can contact me at basscarp@comcast.net to talk more about this motor if you like....
@denoc817
3 жыл бұрын
What's the size of the amp fuse for this motor?
@nessa_pandes1863
8 ай бұрын
can anyone tell me if the lower end for a 1998 mercury force 40hp is compatible with other year makes
@brianwoods4768
5 жыл бұрын
Had anyone ever messed with the timing on these motors? Mine came from the factory 1.5 degrees off and it was run that way for 20 years. . I had it tuned up professionally last year and that's when they caught it. It's like a new motor this year.
@kennyhanes3598
4 жыл бұрын
I've got a 1997 force 40 hp. Noticed today water was kind of spitting out from under the head. And top cylinder spark plug had a milky substance like water mixed with gas/oil. Bottom plug didn't have that issue. Any ideas on if its just the head gasket or do i need to remove the whole engine to replace the gaskets under it?
@jimbubba31
4 жыл бұрын
I know its an old post by when mine did that it was the exhaust manifold gasket. It warps and causes the gasket to fail.
@tcat3315
3 жыл бұрын
Trying to buy a set up like this. Hoping to bring it back from the dead. She’s in pretty rough shape just needs a little TLC
@kingpapa4672
3 жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same motor and the carburetor has to be rebuilt. I called our local marine shop and they will not work on them anymore so I am having to rebuild it myself. I have never done it before and I am having a hard time finding a carb kit for it. I finally found one for $140. Seems way to high. I wish to goodness you had video of the carb rebuild.
@ntj030885
2 жыл бұрын
Any luck on rebuilding your carb. I just bought a boat with a 1999 force 90. I hope I didn’t make a mistake. Do you like your motor?
How is that trailer holding up? I have the exact same one and the frame rails are rotting out. Hope yours is doing a lot better.
@miketoole5574
7 жыл бұрын
It is holding up very well, you can email me about it at basscarp@comcast.net
@paulkeathley450
3 жыл бұрын
Hey buddybdonu happen to do what the plastic screw on the top is called and what the carburetor name
@BWWGL9
4 жыл бұрын
Hello, Mike, just picked up a 1997 Pro17 Bass Tracker a few hours ago. I put some good quality ear muffs on it and ran the motor... Sound OK so far. Just to let you know, mine has Water coming out at the bottom in a good stream on both sides, and out of that REAR water port you showed us. You probably can't see the water streams coming out of the lower unit because your is in a tub of water. ... just to let you know. I will do the PEE LINE as you did, I like to SEE WATER verification flow myself. I'll be calling you in a day or so, to chew the fat and talk boats. By the way my 97 is different than yours, I have only two seats, FLAT DECKS for standing on, and lots of Storage, also a Live well etc., We'll talk.... got to run and cover the boat up. I'm here in N. TX... Ttyl. Wally
@nickschicker9246
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 96 50 hp. pretty much the same motor. I also have water that comes out of the lower unit, but in three places plus i have the piss tube.
@savannahcrain185
Жыл бұрын
Hey mike I have the same boat but I took solenoid off and don’t remember which wire went where could I send me a pic of where the wires hookup at
@aidenobryan7194
5 жыл бұрын
How well has this motor held up for you ?
@devindevin1746
3 жыл бұрын
I have the identical motor on my deepv16pro It runs good in the driveway but dies when on the lake. Does not idle its go or nothing runs good when idle is up.
@MMartin1924
8 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, great video, I have the same motor on my boat but i have not tested it out yet, just installed it.. Did you drill and tap the 1/4 pee line on the top? If so could you explain a little bit how you did that, it seems like a great idea based on not being able to see the stream like on my previous motor (25 hp) And lastly, does it seem like this motor smokes a bit? testing it with the ears and in the garbage can makes quite a bit of smoke on mine.. Thanks!!! Matt
@AdventureCayman
8 жыл бұрын
The hole is already there and tapped with a plug in it. I was changing out my fuel filter this past weekend and saw it there. I am going install a telltale on mine next weekend, however I would recommend using something better then the tubing he was using in the video. Black rubber tubing would be better to withstand the heat. The addition of a nice connector on the lower engine cowl would be much nicer the just drilling a hole in it.
@miketoole5574
8 жыл бұрын
You can contact me at basscarp@comcast.net if you want to talk more about this motor.... Mike
@miketoole5574
8 жыл бұрын
So far the clear rubber tubing is doing fine but I will keep an eye on it...I also just installed a Hydrofoil..../ whale tale and am going to make a vedio about it soon...
@miketoole5574
7 жыл бұрын
I was not aware that there was a hole in the bottom cowl/motor cover housing for a pea line. I did drill a hole and ran the 1/4" line through it and so far it has been working fine. 10 uses....
@kevinscheve2650
2 жыл бұрын
Hey mike , I have water getting into the bottom lower cylinder . The cylinder and head appear to have no cracks. Do you know if there is any other place on these motors that could cause this problem which may be common?
@miketoole5574
Жыл бұрын
I would have to see a video on it to help, look me up on fb
@mustangcobra1789
2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned briefly about a check valve on the fuel line connector. Anyone have more info on what he was talking about. I’ve replaced mine twice and I have to keep pumping the fuel bulb for it to run. Wondering if it’s a fuel pump problem or a connector problem. Thanks for anyone that has experience with this
@miketoole5574
2 жыл бұрын
My bulb "does not" stay pumped up hard either, I just tightened the gas tank bleed valve but not all the way, it must stay open a little.
@tommiewalker471
6 жыл бұрын
Mike, Where did you get the brass fitting for the pee line? What size is the fitting?
@andyd3540
6 жыл бұрын
Same question here
@scottbuckner7708
4 жыл бұрын
Yes i have the same question. Did anyone find it??
@tommiewalker471
4 жыл бұрын
I did find it. I believe it was a 3/4 brass elbow.
@scottbuckner7708
4 жыл бұрын
@@tommiewalker471 ok thanks bud. I'll give it a try.
@10jesusroberto
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike. I have that same motor in my boat and for some reason fuel was leaking from the carburetor, do you have any idea what causes that?
@johntrailer1604
4 жыл бұрын
I have the same issue. Did you figure it out
@CodyJv
3 жыл бұрын
Bad floats or inlet needles
@abemaysonet7291
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Mike. I joust bought a “75” crestliner with this motor on it. Not sure what year the motor is. It seems a little underpowered for this boat, but I’ll find out tomorrow. You have me concerned with this non ethanol thing, I’m gonna have to look into it. What mix ratio do you use on yours. Tx much. Abe
@xtune5731
5 жыл бұрын
Abe Maysonet if anything just rebuild carbs with new oem kits that can withstand ethanol and same thing with the fuel lines
@codysargent4590
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike how does the pee line work on this engine? I’ve always wanted to do this to my engine (98 force 40hp). I’ve always wondered if they plugged it off for a reason. Maybe to force more water through the engine? I’d just like to know how it effects the engine.
@504rcspeed4
2 жыл бұрын
I was curious if the same exact thing. Also I’d like to know the size of the fitting needed to do so
@miketoole5574
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why it was pluged but a force expert mechanic said I should not add a peel line so I will just remove it... not that it pees a lot of water anyway.
@eckoking8354
5 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy im having trouble figuring out what year is my outboard 40 horsepower
@tallapoosa1
4 жыл бұрын
me too, the transom id was missing, where did you find yours?
@joshporter369
3 жыл бұрын
@@tallapoosa1 it’s been a year but I have the same problem now how did you find yours
@DerekRC
Жыл бұрын
Mike what size trash can did you use to run the engine?
@alexwaters5864
4 жыл бұрын
How long does your pee tell tale take to start peeing from cold? Thanks
@scottbaker4314
4 жыл бұрын
I like your videos but there shouldn't be any water coming out of the exhaust hole,my mercury force 70 and 90 both have a hole on the upper right corner standing behind the boat looking forward it's on the same side as steering wheel so you can turn around and see it just below where the cowl sets .
@mikec7373
3 жыл бұрын
My force 40 has water coming from same spot as his. Maybe the 70 and 90 are different, but this is how the 40 was built
@joshporter369
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikec7373 yeah the 40 are different they didn’t have a pisser so that way you wouldn’t know when the impeller was going bad and burn ur motor up
@ronshuman7656
7 жыл бұрын
hey is that a 2 cyl. im looking at one thats a 4 cyl
@miketoole5574
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, mine is a two cycle
@miketoole5574
8 жыл бұрын
You can contact me at basscarp@comcast .net if you want to talk more about it AdventureCayman....tks, Mike
@janicelackey6725
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Thank you I just bought a 1987 Landau 16' with a 1995 Force 40 I'm doing a complete redo on the boat and got to looking for the pee tube Holly Moes there isn't one I know when I was talking with the guy and the motor was running I saw water coming from the motor top end I didn't know the this model class used the exhuast port has the water release for the impeller Thank you again PS do you think it's a good idea to install the pee tube or just let it pee
@Harlanmote
4 жыл бұрын
Janice Lackey install one. It’s supposed to have one.
@joshporter369
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah install one for sure they didn’t have one but should have it’s fine by time it’s up too there it’s went all the way threw and just cycles back down and out & there is so much flow it will still come out the bottom holes too that impeller pumps more than the ports can handle it will increase your effectiveness of the system
@buster2u22
5 жыл бұрын
a 40 hp force should push this boat 28 -31 mph with one person. I have a bota and motor just like this
@danielmoore3352
5 жыл бұрын
I've got the same motor on a 16ft pro angler and since days it will run 26 some days 20 sometimes like that in the same day lol
@mattshafer6644
4 жыл бұрын
I got the same motor but got it all redone and went with a stainless steal prop and different pitch size and I used to only run about 28mph now I run 35 mph on a good day with little wind and windy days 32mph .
@PescadorTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattshafer6644 what pitch did you opt for?
@chadsmith7909
4 жыл бұрын
just don't run motor in barrel to long as the water heats up after a while and will no longer cool the motor ..
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