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@timad260
Жыл бұрын
When it is cold, those tires will become hard like a stone and make this ride uncomfortable
@theraving90s65
Жыл бұрын
What about a used 850?
@tracylee2190
Жыл бұрын
Driving in the wet is probably the reason you don't like the drive of the M8 Comp
@chrisbetts6194
Жыл бұрын
Agree. I just watched a recent review of the 2023 DBS that had a price of over $400,000.
@Kelveron
Жыл бұрын
Top review as always. Totally agree that it is very pricy, and too heavy as well, nevertheless what a gorgeous looking car. I've never seen the M8 as an 911 rival. It's far too big and heavy for that. I see it more like an Aston Martin DB11 and Bentley GT rival, but much cheaper than those cars. That said, personally I'd go for the M850i, which is almost as quick (as a daily anyway), more comfy and far cheaper too.
@cammydough3184
Жыл бұрын
Tbh what does it matter if it’s too heavy if it still does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds
@vantheman1238
Жыл бұрын
M850 is a better car
@saigaikwad415
Жыл бұрын
@@cammydough3184 well yes, it does do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds but the weight will affect it in the corners/handling.
@santana9537
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. It’s more of a high performance luxury GT car. M850i will blitz any Bentley or Aston so the m8 can be a bit over powered. But for the size and presence this is more of a luxury GT car with the perfect blend of the Bentley GT and the 911
@samthoma2719
Жыл бұрын
@@cammydough3184 well then we should all just get a Tesla if it’s about 0-60 sprints and nothing else. Weight kills handling and feel etc.
@DyingtoCu
Жыл бұрын
Wife and I had opp to take 2 Day M School in SC, driving these mostly. It was amazing to see what the M8’s dual capabilities are, street or track. All that with a heated center console lid! 😊
@pierret4168
6 ай бұрын
YES THE HEATED ARM POSITIONS ARE INSANE
@jameskehler9236
21 күн бұрын
So cool! I did the couple hour driving school in California at BMW's Performance Driving School. Unreal opportunity!
@paulcalver8231
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had my M8 for four months and I do agree with lot you say… but I’ve never had car that get so much attention. Mine is stage one car with about 700 bhp and it’s just crazy fast and needed to change tires to ps4 as P zeros had go grip whatsoever.. it’s amazing car and I love it
@reddragon1572
Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about your warranty being void because of the modifications? It blows my mind when people do it on new cars and yours at into 6figures is another level. I do appreciate that there are people that can easily afford the repairs if things go wrong but a new engine in one of these must be mental money ect. Just curious thanks
@Youtubeuser1aa
Жыл бұрын
How Much $
@firathussein4136
Жыл бұрын
@@reddragon1572 he is chatting absolute shit my friend. He does not have a M8 lol. Go on his page. He is a 12 year old with maybe a hot wheels version of the m8.
@brelaxed13
Жыл бұрын
bruh. you are like 11 years old. must have saved up a ton of allowance money and convinced a state to give you a drivers license. adult tip: you don't need to be like that. be yourself and NEVER flex, even if you actually have something to flex. people who aren't morons pick up on that bs immediately and you will always be known as a tool
@allenjs2976
6 ай бұрын
@@firathussein4136 Could just be his son? or something?
@thierryroucourt
Жыл бұрын
maybe not the most positive review but one that i can understand, driving a m8 comp for a year now and must say there are pros and cons, looks, quality, performance... and the cons: price, depreciation, passion... But still a great car to live with, had some (fast) roadtrips across europe with it, this car loves going fast on the highway ! also a headturner when you pass by 🙂
@sashidemedia
Жыл бұрын
Waiting on depreciation to get one. I love this style of car. Road trips, daily driver, track days! Size suits our American roads fine!
@dnice362
Жыл бұрын
Love this car. It looks fantastic, sounds even better. This and the M2 (current gen) are probably my favorite M cars. Idk if I can say the same about the new M2
@cuprashoe
Жыл бұрын
Yeah same on the m2, not sure about the front grill
@fallenstatus
Жыл бұрын
the value proposition of the m850i on the used market is pretty solid. You can pick one up for 70-85k cad and with a few simple mods you can reliably make more hp than the m8 comp. Granted, it would be more of a highway speed missile than a track weapon.
@tim1king
Жыл бұрын
What a car! Unbelievable 0-60 time! Proper mile munching machine.... Great video buddy
@justinstanfordsa
4 күн бұрын
Just bought new LCI M8 Comp, and based on this video changed the Pirelli’s it came with for the oem spec Michelin 4S - and you were exactly right, the ride quality is much better, that hard edge on ripples and bumps is gone! 👏
@aneebaba06
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember seeing so many 8 series on the lot at the Southern California dealership I used for several years for servicing. I'm not surprised they had trouble selling, even though their was the nostalgia factor and yes, it's got a sexy shape for sure.
@rhysmainwaring396
Жыл бұрын
I shouldn’t but I really like that motor (apart from the price). I also prefer the iDrive 7, and joy of joys, real buttons for core functions!
@timad260
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 coupe and i live in nyc and i daily it and it is very comfortable. I like this channel but i am not sure why joe is saying it has a bad ride quality?! I agree it depreciates very quickly but has a very good presence on the road and it is a great gt car This car rides better then an M4 and it looks better then and you can get a used one for the price of a new m4 As far as fun to drive i agree that isn't that fun but this is a luxury sports car at the end of the day and if you want a fun car get an M4 or porsche
@santana9537
Жыл бұрын
Personally would go for the gran coupe. That does have a much better ride quality, test drove both the convertible and GT on PS4s’ a few weeks back. Ideal combo of the 911 GTS and Bentley gt if you’re looking for a really fast and luxurious gt car. A shit load of road presence too
@TheFakePseudonym
Жыл бұрын
Great review Joe, although I have to say I’m slight saddened as I had been looking at these for quite some time to replace my F82 M4. I always loved the idea of it being a bargain Conti GT and the used prices on these had really been catching my eye. I would never have expected it to compete with the M4 dynamically (although in reality a big V8 and soft suspension would suit most of my real world driving to a tee), but sadly it sounds like it doesn’t perform the GT role well at all. The fact that it was such a mild update, makes me think they are bailing on this generation and we will see an all electric flagship i8 in the not too distant future.
@MarkHelvadjian
Жыл бұрын
You should get one, I have a Bmw M8 and LOVE IT! No regrets it's smooth it's fast it's comfortable, just need to have the correct tires on for winter and summer , I ordered an M4 when it came in it was nothing like my M8 NOTHING! I love the interior I love the exterior and love the way it drives, I've owned many Bmw's M3 comp, M2 Comp, M550 , the M8 is perfect
@DavidWilliams-zn2nc
Жыл бұрын
I had a 2021 m850i, great gt car, thirsty but very comfortable, just didn’t blow my skirt up 🤷🏻♂️
@nuno22gp
Жыл бұрын
Go test-drive it yourself - the M8 Competition Coupe is a superb motor-car - everyone's point of reference and opinion differs from the next, and it may just be the perfect car for YOU.
@DavidWilliams-zn2nc
Жыл бұрын
@@nuno22gp good shout! 👍
@v12-s65
Жыл бұрын
a bargain gt would be an S63 coupe not an M8 without massaging seats
@matylandyscz8347
Жыл бұрын
I rode the GC once and I have never ever rode in something that got me excited more. We did 0-100 in 2.88 seconds in a family car and for me this car gave me biggest emotions and I have driven Pista, R35, tuned supra, 911 turbo and few more. The whole review depends on personal opinion
@JoeAchilles1
Жыл бұрын
I had a GC for two weeks a few years ago, I drove it 3000 miles through France, Italy and Austria, it was a great car, nothing really special though, it lacked soul in the same way this coupe does.
@matylandyscz8347
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 I wish man I’m in love with this car😩
@rodriguezahr
Жыл бұрын
Nothing is so menacingly beautiful like the 8.
@mikediazArtist
Жыл бұрын
I’d definitely choose a nicely spec’d 911 over this. The M8 needs something to make it more special or desirable.
7 ай бұрын
It looks better than a 911. It is also easy to buy for msrp or cheaper used unlike the 911.
@supay6537
Жыл бұрын
Not a negative review, just honest opinions and truthful to all of us. Great video 👍🏼
@andyyoung6700
Жыл бұрын
Great review Joe. I had an M8 comp gran coupe as my daily for two years so a little larger and more practical than the coupe but not quite as pretty. Agree with a lot of what you said, super quick but not that engaging. The Pirelli tyres got me in trouble a couple of times,just awful in the wet. I got £20k off the list price with the dealer contribution and lost about £1100 a month in depreciation. Not sure I agree with the m4c comparison, one-off the selling points for me having come from an m5c was exclusivity. I saw one other m8c GC in two years, you wouldn’t get that same exclusivity with the m4c although granted there’s quite some delta in the price
@XVXC-M8
Жыл бұрын
What is "dealer contribution"? Is it just BMW dealerships trying to get the car sold so they give you discounts?
@pjmalone-k2k
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@frankivory1391
Жыл бұрын
I have an F90 M5C and I was looking at switching over to the M8C GC, due to its exclusivity and presence it has on the street. I do l9ve my M5, but it just blends in with everything else, the 8 series as a while has a different look.
@XVXC-M8
Жыл бұрын
@@frankivory1391 trust me people notice an M5
@MigElite1
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic, honest review. Really down to earth "chat in a pub" type discussion. For now I'll stick with my 640D and wait a few years for the 8 series to come down to normal money !
@MrQuashu
Жыл бұрын
640d it's great car so I can't blame You 😁👌
@LafemmebearMusic
Жыл бұрын
Why by a 6 series in diesel? You have a pretty and slow car… I don’t get it. Like if you’re worried about mpg why by that beautiful car and ruin it with a diesel? Get a 3 series touring and chill
@MigElite1
Жыл бұрын
. Here in the UK, fuel is stupidly expensive for starters so MPG counts. Not least that the 640D is far from slow. Its very quick for a big car and the twin turbo engine can be tuned to over 400 BHP...not that I have.
@neilmorris6719
Жыл бұрын
@@MigElite1 very easily tuned have 435d gc with an intercooler and map, runs 11.9, crazy for a diesel and still retains great mpg
@Adam-xe5xm
7 ай бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic Its plenty fast enough for the real world lets be honest. It also is in another world with the interior quality than the 5 series and is much more suited to longer trips and a 3/4 series. Not everything is a 0-60 drag race. btw, the 40i is garbage. Ive driven it and the lack of torque is evident. Th 50i engine is a pile of crap as well, about as reliable as a paper straw.
@Billywoo12
Жыл бұрын
Alpina and the 8 Series are a match made in heaven. The M treatment just detracts from GT requirements. 😮
@adamfrost9048
Жыл бұрын
I think the F87 M2 CS looks as good or better on the outside, and from the sound of it is way more fun to drive on public roads. The CS doesn't have the engine note or some of the interior luxury touches, but it's also less money and has a back seat that fits adults without issue.
@JoeAchilles1
Жыл бұрын
I did say potentially best BMW on sale today, the F87 CS is long gone.
@adamfrost9048
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 For sure, understood. In the US for whatever reason it's pretty easy to pick up a used F87 CS with very few miles for decent prices, and they are still in the factory warranty period. The last M2 CS on BaT sold for $82,500 with 4,700 miles, blue with less miles sold for $86,500.
@kaym7549
Жыл бұрын
M2CS looked good but this M8 has to be the best! M2CS can never turn heads as much as this car! M8 is loved by all ages. But for sure the M2CS will always be the favourite child in the family
@CB-ft8zw
10 ай бұрын
The only reason to get the M850i instead of the M8 is a financial one. Both cars look great but the M8 exhausts make it more impressive when looking at the back. If people were offered either car for free I'm sure they'd all take the M8.
@scottleech9571
Жыл бұрын
I dont know why you dont have 500k + subs .. way better channel than others with 2 or 3 x the subs, clear enthusiasm for what you do
@fordy6351
Жыл бұрын
Recently traded in my superb 840d Convertible in Dravit Grey for a new (and yes, heavily discounted M8 Convertible!!). I would have loved another 840d, but that is no longer an option. So in favour of an Xdrive option and no real chance of securing a build slot (and discount) for an M850i I opted for a brand new unregistered M8 with big discount. I chose another ‘8’ as I am struggling with the design/tech filtering on to all other BMW models. Less ‘drivers car’ and more ‘techie wet dream’. Can say that after 3000 miles I do enjoy driving something a bit rare and having many bad experiences with Porsche UK (a previous car) nothing would get me to leave the BMW brand except for one thing….BMW’s obsession with technology not driving!!! One thing I have noticed since M8 Competition ownership…….The reduction in a***holes hanging off my rear bumper, so thats a positive angle that was not covered in the review!!😜
@schwagier
Жыл бұрын
What do youmean by big discount? 30%?
@stephenlane9168
Жыл бұрын
Great review buddy as always. Detailed, insightful and entertaining 👌👏
@RevTiberius
Жыл бұрын
Finally a review that rightfully points out that the main competitor to this car is the BMW M4. The main problem of this car is that it's way overpriced, and it doesn't offer any benefit over the M4, other than being the more expensive car (which to some buyers seems to be a selling point...).
@conormcgregor-rj5dk
10 ай бұрын
is the m4 faster?
@chelseagodfather
7 ай бұрын
@@conormcgregor-rj5dkwith mods, the M4 can easily make 700hp to around 1,000Hp at a much less overall cost than the M8 and it handles better. That is why the M4 is a very popular BMW model.
@TonyKimtheamusementparkfan
Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable that this M8 Competition did 0-60 mph in 2.78 seconds. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS for a car that is that heavy. It punches well above its weight, and that is just a ballistic machine. BMW really does know how to build fast cars.
@jimsteinway695
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had 6 BMWs and 7 911s, and my X5M was a pleasure to drive for a SAV. Porsche wouldn’t deal on a Cayenne S so I got the X5M for the same price. But all of my 911s have been flawless. I can’t say the same on my BMWs
@enginepy
9 ай бұрын
Similar here. Had 5 Porsches (1 cayenne, 3. 911’s and a GT4) and two BMW’s. None really ever gave me any problems. Porsche is next level regarding reliability and customer service. Better than BMW for sure but also no real complaints about BMW. Our 2022 530e that my mom drives is just spectacular car and value. Looking at a used M8 GC to use as a daily to replace my DB9.
@arster2935
Жыл бұрын
You are spot on about the discounts an low sales of these.. I was in the market for one few months ago. The dealership had it 155k msrp but was willing to give me major a discount to about 135k . 20 k off the original sticker.
@ericstefko4852
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate when a reviewer covers warts and all. Your honesty is appreciated
@philedwards7174
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with review. The 6 and now 8 series are very special cars. You have to own one to really appreciate how good they are. M8 however, not ever going to compete with 911. They are just too heavy to throw around. 840i, 840d are probably the best GT options, 850 would be the ultimate.
@karlk.6819
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a comparative test among the m850i, SL 55 amg, 911 4s or 4 gts and the new granturismo trofeo (also awd). Also, too bad jaguar doesn't offer anything in this segment anymore
@lucwijngaard8413
Жыл бұрын
The looks of this car are out of this world
@drmgbrown
Жыл бұрын
I have the '23 M850i Conv and I like it better than the full fat M8 due to the slightly smoother ride (and much lower price). It is still a bit rough for a grand touring coupe. It is big and heavy but surprisingly nimble for nearly 4800lbs. Real world performance is no different M850i vs M8. I cannot use the full performance of the M850i so nearly another 100bhp doesn't matter on the street and who would really take an M8 Conv to the track? Coupe maybe. My M850i came with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5 RF tires, which are surprisingly good for a RF. It is a daily driver, and I have snows on it now. Summers going back on soon. I have had several other BMWs over the years, including a couple of M3s (E90). That was much more of a hooligan car. Far less refined, but also less isolated and the S65 V8 is a very entertaining engine. I agree the new M4 Conv is a better driver than the 8 but I cannot get past the face. I just cannot. BMW has gone in a direction I cannot follow. The 8 series price is silly for what it is - but I really enjoy mine. I like the V8 rumble. I like the specialness. It is the prettiest BMW out there now (which is admittedly not a really high bar). No surprise it is going out of production in 2025 and is not going to be replaced. The 8 series is going away (again). Not sure what my next car will be.... I agree, the P-Zero is nowhere near as good a the Pilot 4S. I had both on my Jag F-Type R and the Pilot 4S was a night and day difference over the P-Zero. Neither should be driven in the cold but the P-Zero is useless below 45 deg F (7 deg C). PS4 gives better ride, less twitchy, better grip (in dry and wet). I will be switching to it when I replace the Goodyears in the M850i. And I am NOT a brand ambassador for Michelin. But if Michelin wants to talk....... Excellent review, as always. Nicely done Joe.
@Warrengraff-ym2yj
8 ай бұрын
That spec is top notch the white interior is soo nice🎉
@gedwardjones
Жыл бұрын
I picked an M850 one the M4 based almost purely on the fact that the M4 is horrifically ugly to my eyes. Also, the noises the V8 8s make, sooo good.
@markdschedler
Жыл бұрын
Very knowledgeable. I really appreciate your willingness to say what you don’t like and what a better alternative in the BMW line might be.
@mccobr
Жыл бұрын
I have an 2020 M8 convertible with ultimate pack - 911 was never an option for me, think its the wrong comparison personally. I wanted a GT (the 911 just isn’t) and like the bottomless performance; and it’s much more dynamic than some in the comments (that may not have driven one) suggest. Also never had an issue with ride quality; it’s DEFINITELY a GT car, in the UK and driving through Ireland and France. Mine is on Michelins though…
@timad260
Жыл бұрын
Same here I now have a 2022 coupe in nyc that i daily and it is very comfortable I had a 2020 convertible that i leased for 3 years, and i can say both were super comfy on NYC roads and behave like real GT cars I like Joe's reviews, but i dont think he is right regarding this one Also, when it is cold, those summer tires become hard like a stone and will change the car comfort level
@MrLoose26
Жыл бұрын
the m8 gran coupe makes more sense , at least you have 4 real seats
@DamoDrives
Жыл бұрын
Not driven the M8 but when I reviewed the m850 went to a golf course and felt right at home (golf clubs and a golf caddy fitted in the boot) I felt the interior was a big step up from the 3&4 series as well and it did feel like a very special place behind the wheel. It is a massive car though and I’m sure it cannot be much smaller than a 7 series but will virtually no rear passenger room. For looks, interior and engine it is brilliant but would like to drive the new M3/M4.
@arster2935
Жыл бұрын
It’s actually not even close to 7 series in size.. it’s quite smaller when you see it in person. Not that big of a car
@FreshlySnipes
Жыл бұрын
Nothing better looking than a Blue M-Car 😎
@walidzein1
11 ай бұрын
I wish BMW can make a real hypercar one day, a car that has a chassis made completely from carbon composite
@kdm_entertainment
Жыл бұрын
That M8 is the same price as the M3 Touring is in Norway..
@ShaunRoberts1
Жыл бұрын
Top work Joe, love how you tell it like you see it and not follow the company line 👍
@Account1746
Жыл бұрын
Gran touring one is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@christennant8143
Жыл бұрын
Bmw have struggled with this category of car. When I was selling BMW the last generation of 6 series had a similarly hefty price tag and we sold very few of them until BMW ran a “campaign” which saw nearly £19000 slashed off the price which priced a 640d MSport at £3000 deposit and £500 per month on PCP, then they sold like hot cakes. Seems like they haven’t learned for they lesson 10 years ago.
@Adam-xe5xm
7 ай бұрын
They are already available for significant discounts. I remember when i bought my 640d near the end of production they were practically giving them away vs list. They are fantastic cars, just money at list price. Fantastic propositions 2-3 years old or with a nice dealer discount tho.
@pjmalone-k2k
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of changing to an M8 Comp Gran from a 2018 640d. After seeing this I’m not sure. My current car may not be as fast but it looks great and has plenty of power when needed
@craigm3253
Жыл бұрын
Plenty of other reviews out there to convince you otherwise.
@ArabianOak
Жыл бұрын
have this exact car and I paid 110k with 2000 miles on the it. They are insane values at that point considering they run 10.5 bone stock. the car is the best of both worlds, sport and luxury. i came from an e63 amg and the bmw is half a second faster and traps 6mph faster in the 1/4 mile. hard to beat.
@chronologicist
Жыл бұрын
The days of the large coupe seem to be pretty much numbered, certainly for the likes of BMW and Mercedes who depend on relatively large production volumes to make them viable. If the tyres are so important as Joe suggests, its a bit of a shame that the supplying dealer wasn't able to offer a set of Michelin's to help establish how much of the reported problems are down to the P Zero's and how much the chasis, etc.
@enginepy
9 ай бұрын
It seems a lot of people are expecting the agility and feel of a 911 or even M4 in a car that isn’t supposed to be that. It’s a large, heavy GT car. Can’t have grand tourer comfort and 911 performance and agility. It does it’s job well.
@PQV-8898
Жыл бұрын
Why even bother talking about depreciation? It's almost like you were single out the M8 Comp. I gotta break this news to you. ALL cars depreciate. The more expensive they are the more they depreciate. Nothing new.
@louisalonso1695
Жыл бұрын
Hundred Percent
@shanebagnall1979
Жыл бұрын
Great honest and insightful review. Beautiful traditional BMW aesthetics ……but extremely overpriced, redundant rear seat space, and completely muffled exhaust note from the exquisite V8. Compare this to the sound of the M5 Competition, and you will hear what I’m talking about. Joe, your 100% correct about the M4 Comp being the better choice (apart from the ugly Beaver Grill, which you eluded too) I would certainly take a Mercedes C63 V8 Coupe (previous generation) over this M8 every day of the week!
@casperkulsethjrgensen7150
Жыл бұрын
M8 is way better than m4
@kammy205
Жыл бұрын
Had an 840d as a courtesy car for a week and loved it! Was a total downer getting my 1 seres back 😅
@stewartmclean625
Жыл бұрын
The issue with used car prices especially from any BMW outlet is the high rate of interest, I’m guessing 90% of private buyers finance on a PCP, between 10.9-12.9% is just pushes it a bit too far to make sense
@johnguidetti5839
Жыл бұрын
Cheaper to finance a new car rather than a used one.
@stewartmclean625
Жыл бұрын
@@johnguidetti5839 yer but new car prices are getting silly, the world we live in I guess 📈
@Bmw-Hk
Ай бұрын
Depends on your credit score, credit history… I’ve git finance through BMW with 6.9 on a used M850i with only 9500 miles
@revlucm7301
Жыл бұрын
Looking back, i was so lucky to order my M4 comp before the prices went crazy…i waited a long time…although they are become more available on the used market now, with discount i paid 82k for a fully loaded (excl the seats)…i remember looking at getting an M8 a few years ago but was told it will lose a lot of money so held tight…160k for a new one is crazy money…they will only sell them to company car owners..
@stuhill9500
Жыл бұрын
You’ve pinched Harry’s corner😂
@JoeAchilles1
Жыл бұрын
It's my local road too.
@Happytruth
Жыл бұрын
Explain?
@stuhill9500
Жыл бұрын
@@Happytruth I’m quite new to following Joe’s channel. I didn’t realise he uses some of the same cracking road test routes as Harry Metcalf. (Harry’s Garage)
@HughTFYT
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that! 😂😂 I thought I’d read through the replies, 1st to see if it was spotted by everybody! 🤣
@Happytruth
Жыл бұрын
@@HughTFYT hahaha
@Lukec4ge
Жыл бұрын
Interesting review. It’s a shame that BMW can’t find that sweet spot of ride/comfort, and handling as they did in the M5 CS. Surely it can’t be that hard to configure? Also, you mentioned that the M8 has rear seats that fold down- is this new? In your original comparison with your M2 competition, this wasn’t the case.
@Commonsense4Life
6 ай бұрын
Good Lord! BMW is going for the jugular! How in the world does a big car like that pull off that kind of quickness and speed with less than 700hp? How? 😳
@roryblackmore2328
Жыл бұрын
I think the main issue is that its the M8 Comp. version like with the X5M Comp with both vehicles BMW turned the aggression on the suspension too much to where it hinders its comfort. for a SUV or a GT car. I think it would be better to just get the M850 version or just the plain M8, same with the X5.
@CM.243
9 ай бұрын
Late to this.... Was speaking with a friend about his M3 Touring and my M340i Touring and we both agreed that while they were great cars, they weren't that much fin to drive. Far too good at what they do, that they take away involvement. For his fun, he goes out in his old M2. Me, well, I wonder about my old Golf 7.5R. Not as good a car as the BMW, but I think I found it more fun to drive.
@macaron3141592653
Жыл бұрын
GOD this thing looks SO good. I really hope they don't make it hideous in the next generation.
@ejr5480
Жыл бұрын
A Honda civic is more fun to drive than a M8!!?? WTF? In what universe?
@Bmw-Hk
Ай бұрын
And I have a honda generator…😜 also M850i
@ashleymoore9063
10 ай бұрын
As a second hand purchase it's miles ahead of the Porsche. Especially a 850 I or an 840d . It's a GT not a sports car so the 850 is way better as a car and way cheaper . It's not a Porsche competitor it's so much more and the 850 GC is the better option.great review as always from JA .
@stefanmolnar4345
Жыл бұрын
Actually not disapointing at all. Its super fast its the best looking sporty gt on the market. You are guys to spiled. And price depends on land where is sold. Porsche 911 turbo s central eu price 240000 euros this is 190000. Its a masterpiece
@JoeAchilles1
Жыл бұрын
With a horrendous ride? A GT car needs to be comfortable, this isn't.
@timad260
Жыл бұрын
@Joe Achilles I have a 2022 coupe and had a 2020 conv and i daily both in nyc and they are both very comfortable I am not sure about the 2023 but i assume they have the same suspension
@stefanmolnar4345
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeAchilles1 JOE with all respect i love your content, and do not know what kind of roads you have in UK but i do not agree its not bad at all and we in central eu do not get the smothest roads either. Its not audi rs level of comfort but to be honest an M car is not about that.
@kenai4487
Жыл бұрын
the interior looks amazing
@naveendhak8039
Жыл бұрын
Is that a Vancouver Canucks jersey on your avatar pic?
@codyc9784
Жыл бұрын
I own this car Joe and I absolutely love it!! I will be adding an M4 too! I love the BMW’S!! New 24 X5 M competition ordered too!!
@vanessalele3953
Жыл бұрын
Proper bimmerguy 🚀
@rollydoucet8909
Жыл бұрын
The 4.4 litre engines have a bad reputation for oil burning, and connecting rod bearing wear, mostly due, I'm sure, to the heat coming from the turbos causing the valve stem seals to dry up. Has BMW addressed this issue in this, the latest 4.4 litre?
@deryal4526
Жыл бұрын
The m8 has the newer version if the s63 . Old issues sorted
@jlsc4125
Жыл бұрын
BMW did it right. Instead of going to those big tv screen center consoles that require you to take your eyes off the road to do ANYTHING, they kept it to a small screen mounted at dash level and tactile buttons that you can use without taking your eyes off the road, which IS the drivers job, watch the road, not play with a tv screen.
@devonte41
Жыл бұрын
Like your reviews except for tire bias. I love pzeros on G80 and prefer stiffer sidewall. Hated my michelin 4S sidewall and steering feel. Everything else the tire was excellent. One is not better than the other. Just different. Glad we have choices instead of continuously making bad comments about a brand you don't like.
@djenson
Жыл бұрын
I also hated p-zeros. Fast wear, low traction and comfort when not in perfect conditions. He is allowed to voice his opinion.
@uzyoc
9 ай бұрын
I am in love with this car. Time to place my order!!!
@mickcundall4036
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very enjoyable. The M8 is just glorious. Really like it
@faz8055
Жыл бұрын
Love the video Joe, but even as a die hard BMW fan you would have to be insane to spend over £160k on a Bmw and not go for a Porsche etc at this price point surely!
@rykehuss3435
Жыл бұрын
If you got the money for this car, I'm sure you can get suspension on it that suits your needs. Ride too hard? get plushier suspension installed. What youre buying is the engine and the chassis, pretty much all else is customizable anyway.
@Dwayne3007
Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car. But I prefer the Gran Coupe variant.
@MrAnderson321
Жыл бұрын
That’s ‘Harry’s Garage’ test route! 😁
@JoeAchilles1
Жыл бұрын
Yep we both live a few miles away.
@pjmoody
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Review Joe. We don't see a lot of the 2 or 4 door 8 series in Australia. Thanks for sharing
@-Diceman
8 ай бұрын
This car is significantly better than the M4/M3 and M2… sure it’s more costly but it crushes their performance stats and it is much more luxurious. Hard to compare them to the M8 when they’re worse and the M8 is much more than just a performance car.
@15october91
Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe.
@michaelweigel2466
7 ай бұрын
Hello Joe, interesting video. Nevertheless, I have a few comments. You say that the M4 competition xDrive can do everything better than the M8 competition. To be honest, that made me smile a little. The M4 in question is certainly better in corners and on many racetracks. But otherwise? Does it have a divine 8-cylinder engine? The M8 is certainly not inferior in terms of pulling power and acceleration. It also looks much better and offers more status. You mention in the video that the M8 sells relatively poorly and that many customers opt for the 911. The two cars are not really comparable. However, it is possible that people are interested in both vehicles and then weigh up the options. The M8 is certainly very expensive as a new car, but as a young used car you can get it quite cheaply. A 2-3 year old M8 with approx. 40,000 kilometers (accident-free, first-hand) starts at 90,000 euros. What 911 can you get for that? Right, a normal 911 with 385 hp. That wouldn't be a difficult choice for me though ;) I'm considering replacing my two current BMWs (125d and M140i) with an M8 in a few years (for climate protection reasons).
@okeyezeilo6187
5 ай бұрын
Beautiful car, great performance. The only fly in the ointment is the uninspiring exhaust note...
@jonatkinson1971
Жыл бұрын
Had one as a loaner when my i8 broke. Incredible performance but a bit of a barge. Did think about getting one to replace the i8 but settled on a G82 xdrive.
@MrSmellGoodt
Жыл бұрын
Great review. I unfortunately think BMW is going to discontinue the 8 series. That’s why they gave it such minor upgrades and no idrive8
@kaym7549
Жыл бұрын
They let themselves down on this car though. The only thing special about it is the exterior look and its m8 name. Interior is at the same level as a 5 series, mechanics pretty much the same. BMW should have went more extreme on this car! Make it feel like a super car that also comes with luxury! As a flagship should
@demetrixxx8962
Жыл бұрын
Turbo S all day long! Good review though mate, well done!
@johnguidetti5839
Жыл бұрын
The M8 is more a S63 coupe,Bentley GT,Aston Martin DB11 rival than a 911 two different types of car.
@demetrixxx8962
Жыл бұрын
@@johnguidetti5839 I disagree the turbo s Is not any 911, it's the ultimate grand tourer and at that price point its a no brainer as to which to go for.
@johnguidetti5839
Жыл бұрын
@@demetrixxx8962 A turbo S is not a GT car. The hard suspension and Road noise it’s a sport car. The perfect GT at that price would be the Bentley GT or cheaper alternative S63.
@Usengwayo
Жыл бұрын
0-60 = 2.78 seconds, but people say its over priced. Lets just address the elephant in the room, BMW failed to sell this flagship vehicle thats why its heavily critized. It has all the performance but Marketing is important. I love it, either way
@GmoneyDaGamer24
Жыл бұрын
i make no money but 80k for an m8 doesn't seem that bad if its certified lightly used or whatever
@rare6499
Жыл бұрын
It’s a good looking car, I just don’t think it looks special enough for the money especially inside. Performance is impressive, but when you spend this kind of money you really need it to be very special IMO. 160k is insane money.
@Cloverleaf7642
Жыл бұрын
Outstanding review, Joe. Top driving skills too.
@Chris-yg3nj
Жыл бұрын
This model lineup drops like a stone, no wonder nobody with their thinking cap on will buy one new. It's a gorgeous car unfortunately a bit lost in the market.
@DavidC1
Жыл бұрын
Can you do another video with Jon from Forensic Detailing?
@chopstickstotheclouds
Жыл бұрын
Objective review, good knowledge. Appreciate the content!
@MisterMonsieur
Жыл бұрын
BMW needs to stop slapping an "M" badge on every single model. It's just not appropriate for every model, especially past at certain price!
@neddy781
5 ай бұрын
The car looks so good. That interior would be so difficult to keep clean in my opinion.
@lm68lancashire60
Жыл бұрын
Great review. Did I notice some “Harry Metcalfe” driving roads? Keep up the good work.
@thefamilyrobbo
Жыл бұрын
At least we now understand Pirelli's nomenclature: PZero equals zero grip 😀 Unless you're on a warm smooth track
@bradcollins4114
Жыл бұрын
Good video. I wonder if the LCI also has some suspension changes that create the stiffness you experienced instead of just the PZeros. I can't see the point in upgrading from my F13 M6 which has hydraulic steering and the DCT of course. I really found the steering on the M8 was the worst part
@timad260
Жыл бұрын
I dont think it is a suspension problem I have an M8 and it is very comfortable My thoughts are that he tested the csr on a very cold weather(as he mentioned at the end of the video), and the summer pzero become very stiff so will be uncomfortable
@leemace9638
Жыл бұрын
At least BMW never ruined the look of the front of the car with that disturbing grill 😂👍🇦🇺
@MontyStreet
Жыл бұрын
Are some of the roads the same as Harry’s Garage ? Nice test route!
@tommy516
Жыл бұрын
I tried an 8 series with the M package...it was a WHALE! Not sure how the M8 is but this is a HEAVY car!
@owenmcdonald5922
Жыл бұрын
Someday you and Harry will be pushing cars through that S bend at the same time.
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