The stain is called bluing. It's cosmetic only. It's caused by a bacteria in the wood that starts feeding on sugars in the wood after It's dead, you see in pine and sometimes in other white woods. It used to be considered a defect and millions of board feet of pine was left in the woods, burned or buried if it blued before it could be processed. Now it's considereda value added feature. I use diesel and bar oil mixed on sappy wood, keeps the pitch from building up and helps keep the blades from rusting.
@koolgear9143
2 жыл бұрын
The dark spots is caused by metal in the tree
@pauljohnson2372
Жыл бұрын
Bluing is correct. Metal is much darker and concentrated around the metal, much more confinement
@thekiltedsawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Nice looking boards buddy, it's spalting, not to worry, people love it 🧡👍👌👌
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Craig!
@TheMilwaukieDan
Жыл бұрын
Well done. I live in Milwaukie, OR so it’s awesome to watch someone local. Thank you.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Daniel! I’m literally editing a new ponderosa pine video as we type😬
@Toploaderone
2 жыл бұрын
Just a comment or two...I worked at a stud mill in central Montana for 9 or 10 years. Started as a laborer on the green chain and ended up as the planerman and foreman for that side of the mill. Our usual wood was Pon Pine and that blue stain was usually found in logs that were either scarred or standing dead. If the wood was planed on the wet side (18%) it had a habit of starting that blue stain under the stickers. When I became a certified lumber grader the rule book called the bluing "spalting" and then identified it as the precursor to the process of rot but at this stage did not affect the strength of the wood. Also a unit of Pon Pine that was planed wet, banded and plastic wrapped and set aside would almost glue itself together with mold and become almost useless. If it was dried correctly it made great looking panels. I bought a couple of units of 1x4 and 1x 6 to do my living room walls. Loved it. Also, really enjoy your channel.. Toploader
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great info from a pro! I appreciate your time.
@timburgess4149
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Cole
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blueboy4511
Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy watching your channel. It is educational and it's interesting to see an old log milled into some beautiful, and useful lumber. I like to see things put to good use rather than thrown into a trash pile and burned. Keep up the good work and may the Lord bless you and your family.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Rudy!
@1herbert100
2 жыл бұрын
You sure work hard on your days off. My hats off to you. Nice video.
@jimmowers7675
2 жыл бұрын
Great looking pine boards. Thanks for sharing. God BLess.
@stevenhorgan1046
2 жыл бұрын
All the very best wishes are sent from Yorkshire, love your videos, keep up the inspiration & God bless you & your family.. Steven.
@donaldpetrey5843
2 жыл бұрын
I knew that’s what that container was for lol. I can’t wait to see the river table. Another great vid.
@R.E.HILL_
2 жыл бұрын
Mighty log, Hoss... 😉
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir!
@traprocksawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, seen it here in South East Queensland (Aust) too. I found it in standing dead yellow pine. I've made a tabletop out of some of mine on a cheap old steel frame that came from a large "box store". Looks lovely, timber is sound and the "blue vein" has not spread or changed since making the tabletop. I enjoy looking at it every day when I have my toast. Love the channel mate.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think this will look great on a wall.
@justintime2277
2 жыл бұрын
👍 From Cadillac Michigan
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AuditRecon
2 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of character in that lumber.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
There sure is! I think it looks pretty neat.
@TheOldJarhead
2 жыл бұрын
I see others mentioned the answer to the blue stain -- blue stained pine is a product many seek now and happens whenever a pine log is dropped and left on the ground a long time because the beetles get into it and the fungus that causes the stain is actually in a symbiotic relationship with the beetles. The fungus attacks the protective layer of the tree weakening it's defenses against the beetles that can then bore into the tree. When you see "bullet pine" that is what it's from. However, since the beetles come later you typically see this staining first and long before the beetles attack. So, dropping a pine like this and leaving it for a month or two will start the staining though it can happen when the tree is live and standing too -- I mill a LOT of ponderosa and it sticker stains very easily as well. I never sticker with pine sticks due to this -- always use something else. Nice big pine you had there :) Oh and I love Ponderosa! It barely shrinks at all under drying! Air dries here in about 8 weeks!
@seandoran6809
2 жыл бұрын
Great job, that's a lot of work cutting all them boards! Can't wait to see the table you make, I'm wanting to make one myself 👍
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean! I’ve started the table. It’s going to take some time but should be a great project.
@lornesteed2417
2 жыл бұрын
Its actually called " spalting" - it happens a lot to alder here on Vacouver Island. Nothing to worry about; its actually going to give some nice character to your ponderosa pine.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Lorne!
@eldoradowoodcrafthobbies3888
2 жыл бұрын
My old dried out belts cause black stains on wet sappy redwood. I have used wood bleach on mold otherwise leave it on stickers for a couple years it dries up and it is marketable.
@southernyankeehomestead3230
2 жыл бұрын
Different types of wood "spalt" differently. If you get maple, depending on the species, you'll get yellow and even black along the rings. Pine is typically a dark blue to black, and ash will get a golden color to it. Out of the woods covers spalting pretty good in a couple of his videos.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@eldoradowoodcrafthobbies3888 I think this pine will dry pretty quickly.
@jplovg
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer your dad will get it to us today if che
@paulthompson8613
2 жыл бұрын
Just glad you and your family are well always look forward to your videos .I thought you might have taken a well earned break
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Paul. It’s been busy over here.
@mpwoodworks3138
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about contractor problems. Seems like I hear that story more and more these days.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I have the owner coming out again today. We’ll see what happens.
@robertlivingstone3947
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and nice job and nice pine
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@williamellis8993
2 жыл бұрын
It's great that you could do something like this for your boss since he lets you bring equipment home when you need it. Also, since it's Ponderosa Pine, I so badly wanted to use the word bonanza in my comment but just couldn't come up with a way. Take care. Bill
@zeke1eod
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, cant wait to see the river table. Make sure you let those pine boards air dry well before adding it to heat so it doesn't crack bad. Stay safe and God bless
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s currently air drying. The color has turned more blue and I think it looks really nice.
@christopherprim1973
Жыл бұрын
I was told the spalting is fungus, but bacteria makes more sense. Different species of conifers turn different colors once they're dead, standing. Pondo turns grey blue, Lodgepole Pine goes grey blue or orange, and Doug FIr will get a green tint occasionally. General conditions are probably affected by minerals, too.
@kevintulak9987
2 жыл бұрын
I love the blue staining, I have a bunch of paneling in my house that has it. Thanks for sharing.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@mcpiddler1135
2 жыл бұрын
On the Forestry Forum blue stained pine is known as "denim pine" and is sold at a premium price.
@ronhaefner7833
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your videos.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@bradgilbert5656
2 жыл бұрын
As others have stated, the blueing is the start of decomposition. It usually only happens in the sap wood. All ponderosa pine (in fact, almost all pine) will do it if it sits dead for a while. Nothing to do with beetle kill. It's beautiful and makes great wall paneling or ceiling paneling. Some even use it for cabinets. One note on ponderosa pine, if it's at all wet, cut it a bit thick and run it through that big planer you got from your dad's shop once it's dry. It shrinks quite a bit everywhere but the knots. Great video!
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Brad. I left it really wide because I think it’s going to shrink a lot.
@brinkee7674
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer It's also going to shrink in thickness quite abit. The boards are going to end up wavy due to those stickers
@franklt35sawyer49
2 жыл бұрын
In your "kiln" make sure you have good air movement. Air movement dries much more than heat does. A dehumidifier would help greatly (dry air dries better than wet air). We just make sure the stickers are good and we strap the pile every couple of feet with 4x4's on top of the stack held down with straps (for flatness) that we check weekly for tightness when we measure the moisture content.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
A dehumidifier will be a must. This container has a surprisingly good seal.
@jackgraham3393
2 жыл бұрын
Love working with blued pine. It is getting harder to find, not sure the reason, maybe more folk are using it. Have used it to make kitchen cabinets for a number of jobs. Did all the interior of a new winery, with it. Much of the furniture in my home is made of blued pine. Would guess you could find a good market out there. Thanks for showing this project.
@kettlebellked3982
Жыл бұрын
I'm in southern Colorado and mill up an abundance of blue stain "beetle kill pine", mostly Ponderosa. Up to 40 ft long with solid color throughout. Reach out to me if you'd ever like some.
@michaelmcdonald6727
2 жыл бұрын
I watched fall line ridge the other day, and his saw blade was getting pitched up and he added diesel to the lubricator and the pitch went away and the saw blade cut much better for him. I was impressed. I grew up in Donald Oregon not far from you. Spent many days on the willamette. Been in Utah a long time though.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve to use diesel but I really had no buildup with the Pine-Sol. I bought my tractor from Papè in Donald!
@melissadyche8325
2 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel this is the first time I’ve seen you and I love to watch wood being cut
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the show! There’s a lot of wood being cut here😉
@johncollins500
2 жыл бұрын
Nice yeild. Grain looks pretty good. See you next time Dan
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MrFHLH
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is some log, pity it's had a few issues but has still yielded some fantastic boards. Your boss is a lucky man. Look forward to more.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Stay tuned!
@MrFHLH
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer oh yes I will
@francoisbouvier7861
2 жыл бұрын
About 35 years ago I used a framing square like you did. The old lead framer chewed me a new one. Haven't done it since, not even with my own squares. Good video, just acquired an old old LT40. Lots to learn.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new mill! You’re going to have a lot of fun.
@francoisbouvier7861
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer 66 and still learning. Can't seem to avoid work for some reason. All the 👌
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@francoisbouvier7861 I keep saying I need to go back to work so I can rest 😬
@robertpalmer3166
Жыл бұрын
I don't know about yours specifically, but I'm sitting at my Texas beetle kill loblolly pine desk that I built years ago. The blue staining is a result of whatever it is that the beetles do to it. I really don't know what kind of beetles they are, or exactly what it is that they do, but it makes for some really pretty wood.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I’m really loving how this stuff looks now that I’m starting to plane it.
@terrysharp5025
2 жыл бұрын
Spalting and normal for logs that are decaying. Looks really nice.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I like the looks too. I’ve always believed spalting was a whitening of the wood.
@dansSawfish5604
2 жыл бұрын
When pine sits around for a few months it gets bluing stains not mold. great video 🪓
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jimkeene8985
2 жыл бұрын
Howdy my name is Jim and I live in Arizona I built a water and a work shop roof out of old tin, that I think someone used as a backstop for shotgun well it wasn't that bad but it was free corrugated tin and it had a few leaks u know a drip here and a drip over there I put asphalt emulsion down and that work fair for a while then here came the drips again, I went 2 HOME DEPOT and ask them and got some Henry I don't know what Number, went back and put one light cover down and it rain like the dam broke, but my shop and tools stay dry..My neighbor came over and was telling me about the old shade he had and it work real good 👍for me .I put a then layer of paint down then the shade stuff and a thick layer of paint down 8 years ago and it still holding up..The roof man that said that asphalt emotion would work has lost a lot of money because of me it didn't work why don't you look into the Henry Roofing stuff you said you still owe him money and another thing to all your friends about what great roofing warranty he has... he loved you then😛😛😛 or take him to small claims court you'll even like it better
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I actually have the owner coming out today to look at it in the rain. I definitely won’t be letting this slide by.
@WilsonForestLands
2 жыл бұрын
Blue stain is actually a fungi. It’s common in beetle killed Pine. When the beetles bore into the trees the spores are introduced. In your case it looks like it’s just coming from the areas exposed to the air. That’s why it’s in big blotches. In the case of beetle killed trees it creates streaks of color in the wood that is actually desirable. If left a whole log, the wood will deteriorate. Once it is cut open and dried, the fungus dies and it is not a problem. In the next few days I will be doing a video cutting beetle killed blue ponderosa pine.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I’ll check it out!
@vernonclontz8920
2 жыл бұрын
Hope all is well
@chriskythreotis4686
2 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual cutting wood on your wood mill…sorry to hear about your problems with the new building I really hope you get it resolved 👍🇬🇧
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have the owner coming back out today.
@rexhavoc2982
2 жыл бұрын
It will turn blue and it is prized by many out here on the left coast of Ca. we call it Denim Pine and charge extra for it. Pondo has rock hard knots ,so slow down or the blade may dive on the big ones. A cant that big @ 14 minutes, wont require a clamp. Sticker the ends at 3 inches, We have lots of bug kill pondo, with bug holes ,people like that also. Are you using Double Hard 10 degree?
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
That is the blade I’m using. It’s leaving a very smooth finish.
@gastoncannon4710
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t pay the ransom, he escaped. 🤠 Awesome video, Jason, but you need to take out the board to your head in the into. i hurt ever time I see it 😵💫. 👍👍👍👍👍❤️💚💙💜💗
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
That’s the best part!😂
@gregm312
2 жыл бұрын
hurts me too
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@gregm312 🤣
@ronrolfe5904
2 жыл бұрын
It's called blue sap stain, and is caused by excess moisture after felling, it does not effect the wood structurally but is visually undesirable.
@gregm312
2 жыл бұрын
very nice boards . are there vent ports in the trailer . need them to evacuate the moisture besides the heat .
@joaniemckinney970
2 жыл бұрын
I used to make walking sticks out of the Ponderosa by my house and I remember those black streaks, but I never knew what they were. My Granny called it “The banana effect”. I don’t know what she meant. However your video made me curious and so after looking it up I wondered further if that made it unsaleable. So I hunted around and found this company. Hope this is useful. I think the streaks are pretty. Sustainable Lumber Company We like to call it forest direct sales. We do our own logging and only harvest severely salvaged Ponderosa Pine trees that have been standing dead in the forest for up to 5 years. That’s the secret to achieve the wide array of color and character in our Beetle Killed Pine lumber for walls and floors. These trees have been forgotten and left in the forest to rot on the stump because they are riddled with splits, checks, cracks, rot pockets etc. We believe the natural beauty that lies within these trees are worth salvaging, it’s sad to us that no one else is doing the same. We meticulously hand cut all these defects out and apply a T&G on all 4 sides, therefore every finished board locks together nicely. With that said, our lengths only come random length up to 8′, however every piece is usable. More color, more character, superior quality, and proper drying; this Ponderosa Pine hardwood lumber is simply the best! OUR SECRET: ~ We hand pick beetle killed Ponderosa Pine trees that range from 100-400 years old. ~ Because of its thick bark Ponderosa Pines hold moisture in the tree 10x longer than commercially harvested Lodgepole Pine. This moisture allows the fungus from the mountain pine beetle to flourish and create the wide array of colors you see in our products. ~ Aged like a fine wine our timber stands dead in the forest for up to 5 years. The longer it stands dead naturally in the wild the richer and more dramatic the color will be. ~ We visually grade and methodically cut every tree to maximize the natural color and character. ~ We slowly kiln dry every plank to 6-8% moisture. This improves stability and helps reduce any chance of future movement in the board. ~ Kiln drying to 6-8% moisture kills 100% of the fungus that created the natural discoloration in the tree. ~ Every board is visually inspected and then milled into T&G flooring and paneling. ~ After milling we visually inspect every board and cut out any defects by hand. ~ Each individual flooring and paneling board is then end matched (T&G on the ends). ~ Our finished product is held to a higher standard and graded to our 99% usable tolerances. CONTACT PHONE +(406) 642-7120 MAILING ADDRESS PO Box 18315 Missoula, MT 59808 SALES & SHOWROOM OPEN BY APPOINTMENT ONLY 2935 Stockyard Rd. Unit L-1 Missoula, MT 59808 Sales Office (406) 642-7120 DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE 34306 Pow Wow Rd Arlee, MT 59821 OPEN BY APPOINTMENT ONLY Warehouse (406) 274-1125
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for taking the time to share this!
@tinydancer7426
2 жыл бұрын
Banana effect ...... maybe she was referring to how banana skins get black marks on them as the banana ripens.
@bunnylulu2452
2 жыл бұрын
We have a lot of blue pine over here in Eastern Oregon. Caused from beetle kill in the tree.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m learning.
@klancyjones726
Жыл бұрын
If pine sits for a while before milling, it gets the discoloration you're seeing. It's still good and sometimes the blue in the wood it is beautiful. Do book match on those big wide boards, it'll look spectacular. Montana Blue.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I have another I will probably mill up tomorrow. Hopefully it’s more of the same.
@jasondueck6302
2 жыл бұрын
Heat will help set the pitch and personally I like the blue pine look we get a lot of that here also dang buddy you hit a rock and she just kept cutting nice if I just think of a rock or nail my blade is done I should look into getting some better quality blades I guess lol 👋🇨🇦
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think I got pretty lucky with that rock. I thought sure that blade was done when I saw all those sparks.
@slamsshenanigans2296
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you have some air flow exhaust in your container Jason, other wise you might just be making a we sauna...
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
For sure! That container has a really good seal.
@euelreed1025
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a combination of three insects, the pine sawyer beetle carries nematodes in its thorax that kills the pine but the bark beetle catties the blue fungus that the nematode feeds on. The blue you are seeing is the fungus that feeds the nematodes .
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very interesting. Thank you!
@homesculptor
2 жыл бұрын
32 acres burned in the Caldor fire. Mostly Ponderosa pine. I'm going to use the boards for various things. So, paneling sounds good. Can't wait to finish the vid. Any other good use for ponderosa pine?
@piledriver141
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear your building is leaking. Is it screws leaking or hopefully it’s not at the joints.should be Pookie tape under the joints.Built some giant boat sheds down here on the gulf coast.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
There’s no flashing between the roof metal and wall metal so the top wall girts are exposed. Roughly an inch and a half. I think rain is blowing in through there.
@rimmersbryggeri
Жыл бұрын
Looks like this would be a nice wood for framing timbers.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I have another one to mill. Maybe that’s the route I should go🤔
@traviskelly5480
2 жыл бұрын
Blue stain. It’s harmless when dried I cut it at least 3x a week down here in the south. Some people love it
@jeffmosher433
2 жыл бұрын
That blue wood gets marketed as "DENIM WOOD"! Using wet stickers will cause that blue staining where the stickers are placed! Not the effect you will want. I keep a pile of stickers cross stacked near the mill air dried and ready to go!
@kerryjohnson2512
2 жыл бұрын
About all pine turns blue after it's been cut for a while. In fact blue pine is actually desirable. The blue staining is from a fungus, but the blue staining is prior to the decaying of the wood. Lodgepole pine, sugar pine and ponderosa pine all does this. There are furniture makers that make blue pine furniture, usually out of lodgepole pine. When I used to fall timber year's ago, some mills would set aside pine until it got the blue stain and then saw it.
@craigo1764
2 жыл бұрын
I believe what your seeing is called blue stain and is a fungus that is carried and transmitted by different species of bark beetles and one of their favorite species is ponderosa pine, at least in my area. How does the pinesol/soap solution work for milling heavy pitch logs? My mill doesn’t like pondo logs for that reason. Cool Chanel man
@donaldvautour5915
Жыл бұрын
From what i've heard, if cut in the fall/winter bluing will not occur, if cut in the summer months, it has to be milled and stacked within 3 days.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I cut this in October so that kind of ruins that theory. I just used this lumber in my shop and it looks great.
@donaldvautour5915
Жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer A local native told me about it not blueing in the months ending with er , September,October, November, December, i guess you proved that not being true, ( i wasn't sure on that one, maybe in the dead of winter??). but milling it 3 days after it has been cut was told to me by my client that build high end windows out of pine and sell all over the US, so i tend to believe him, Nice work and furniture making vid's, love the chanel.
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
@@donaldvautour5915 I appreciate that! On an unrelated note, months ending in er are the best for crabbing on the Oregon coast 😬
@grizboyyhenderson7388
2 жыл бұрын
The blue in pine is first sign of rot...but should not hurt the board if solid...but also adds character to the board...when using clear products to seal it...if painting or staining...no worries...here where I work we see all the time...dont hurt the board...
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@badbadbob1
2 жыл бұрын
Google description of what you have is Spalted lumber. Spalted wood is any wood that has begun to decay or rot as a result of a specific range of airborne fungus. It is created when white rot fungus begins growing within a piece of wood or log. When the fungus begins to grow withing the wood, the process is referred to as “spalting.”
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bob.
@mrh8562
2 жыл бұрын
Blue stain pine. I use it for interior boards
@barryhansen6854
2 жыл бұрын
Jason you had me trying to get through my screen to move that trimming out of the way so you didn't trip over it, and you weren't listening to me just looking after your health.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Thank you, Barry!😬
@maryannrurup353
Жыл бұрын
For information try diesel, it will keep the blade really clean .
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I don’t want my interior wood to smell like diesel.
@timothybrawley7909
2 жыл бұрын
Spaulding. It usually does this before it rots. It's well wanted in live edge slabs, especially maple.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I have some spalted oak that looks very different.
@sjv6598
2 жыл бұрын
“Spalting”
@roberto.peterson9917
2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion if there is a sheet metal shop around or a good HVACR Shop that uses sheet metal check and see if they have pallet that sheet metal came on they are 10 to 12 ft long 4 ft wide would make excellent resting place for lumber to be stickered keeping supported full length from bottom and off ground
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I actually have two of those pallets that were left by the pole building contractor. They claimed there was a deposit on them but I’m not sure I care. Great idea!
@perryingto
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@wileycoyotesr8623
2 жыл бұрын
Ponderosa Pine is beautiful and is durable. Ben Cartwright built his home with it from logs he milled on his ranch. Hop Sing liked burning it in his cook stove. Said it burned warm and for a long time. That's all I've got on the subject. Oh, and your video was excellent. I'm definitely enjoying the creative camera angles and perspectives. Sorry you ran into a disreputable construction company. There are a lot of them out there.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I tried to think of a way to incorporate Bonanza into the video without copyright infringement😂
@ecocentrichomestead6783
Жыл бұрын
I can't say I know what causes the discoloration on the pine but. Fungus would follow the grain lines. Bacteria is possible. I think both are theory only. My guess would be a chemical reaction called oxidation. Because the bark can hold water in the log for a long time, a felled log sitting in the hot sun can heat up to the point that oxidation occurs. Whichever theory is correct, the color is not an indication of lower quality strength of the wood.
@davidsellars646
2 жыл бұрын
All I have is P pine. I wish that I had Doug-fir and cedar. The bluestain is from a fungus. It happens in both hardwoods and softwoods, although the species of fungus is different. It, by itself is . not terribly degrading to the wood but it's the other organisms that come with it that are a problem. The big mills typically ran sprinklers on the log decks to prevent the stain. Either the wood needs to be kept very wet or cut and dried to an MC where the fungi can't live. It was common in years past to dip the lumber in a solution of pentachlorphenal to prevent the lumber being air dried from staining. This is why many old mill sites are hazardous waste sites. Log ends can be painted or covered with Anchor Seal to retard staining somewhat. Using pine stickers is a no no. It will stain and rot. Use dried lumber if possible. True firs and hemlock make good stickers. Also, stickers should be placed every sixteen inches. Yea, it uses lots of stickers. When lumber was somewhat cheap, I would get hem-fir 2x4's at big box stores and rip them on the mill to 5/8 thick for stickers. They can be used over and over.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info! I definitely have plenty of fir to make stickers. I was always under the impression you should use the same species.
@bigdog5217
2 жыл бұрын
Many of the Juniper trees in Eastern Oregon also have Blue Stain. People who sell blue stain lumber have no trouble getting rid of it. People love that stuff. Also I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the price of crude oil jumped another 10 bucks today to 125 a barrel so good luck on buying cheap gas or diesel anymore...anywhere. Love your vids...Take care man.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Big Dog. Diesel was $5.19 this morning.
@sjv6598
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer £7.70 a gallon for diesel in the uk. It went up 60 pence a gallon overnight on Saturday.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@sjv6598 I watched it shoot up to $5.89 a gallon yesterday. This morning it dropped to $5.49. Hopefully it keeps going.
@jimcurrier3922
Жыл бұрын
In white pine that stain is blue and now it is desirable, but in my sawing in the 50s you could not sell it
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny sometimes how things can turn around over time.
@plumbcrazy375
Жыл бұрын
Can't believe you are using the pine for stickers
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
I can. It worked great.
@kevinscudamore2711
2 жыл бұрын
👍🏴
@Ramdodge582
2 жыл бұрын
don't wait too long on those contractors. give them enough time to fix the issues then get a couple of quote from others to fix the things and send it too them. You can hire that work out and take it off the bill due or sue if it's more. Generally just sending the quotes gets the original contractors ass in gear.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
They sent their “leak master” out and he couldn’t figure it out. Tomorrow that will have been a week ago. Friday they’ll hear from me.
@charleshansen8558
2 жыл бұрын
It is bluing the beginning of rot, as long as it is solid it does not hurt the wood
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnwoody4905
2 жыл бұрын
nice video white pine and other dead pines are bad for bluing or graying some people love it. screws in roof may not be tight i had to tighten up some of screws in my roof glad you didn't make last payment may be he will come back and fix it.take care, be safe and well.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I have the owner coming back out today.
@jdean9797
2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned a epoxy river table….. Have you checked out StoneCoat Countertop???? Their products are top notch. I have made a table using their product with great results.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen their ads on Facebook but haven’t used them. Thanks for the heads up!
@davemclelland9292
2 жыл бұрын
Where I live in British Columbia it is stained by a beetle and it is called "Denim Pine"
@koolgear9143
2 жыл бұрын
Those dark spots are from metal in the tree
@iramatheny4367
2 жыл бұрын
About the non-responsive contractor. First a trip to the Building Department, then to the Sate Contractor License Board. Then maybe an attorney. I spent 40 years as a licensed contractor, and have seen many of them come, collect $$ and then go on to the next victim.. You need to break this operators cycle.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I have the owner coming back out today.
@jimmieburleigh9549
2 жыл бұрын
When you have that real sappy pine like that ponderosa or those real sappy southern yellow pines using straight diesel works the best to keep blade clean and lubed up.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently you haven’t seen the price of diesel 😂😂😂
@jimmieburleigh9549
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer true but it's still cheaper if you basically got to go straight pinsol to cut it. That black and sometimes it's blue is just a staining that happens when they sit up. They say it's like a pre rot but it's still stable and it's desirable to some people.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmieburleigh9549 I actually used a cup of pin-sol and a little dish soap and didn’t have any issues with the sap. I was kind of surprised.
@jimmieburleigh9549
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer well that's probably because it's been sitting a while. A fresh ponderosa is normally super sappy that's why a lot of cutters go extreme with diesel or straight or almost straight pinsol.
@larrylongland4900
2 жыл бұрын
It called blue pine it a type of wood only found in pine that makes it look pretty
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@Theravadinbuto
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what your drying setup looks like, but generally I try to keep the stickers no longer than the boards are wide - saves room when drying.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I cut those stickers so I could stack double wide. I ended up scrubbing all of the sawdust off of those boards and restacked them side by side so the stickers are right at the edge of the boards. It’s much more stable and the clean boards will help against mold.
@gavinwynslowtarau5160
Жыл бұрын
Pine Dust!Glasses might help later on in life
@AndrewAHayes
2 жыл бұрын
When I am dealing with contractors I always include in the contract satisfaction of snagging any issues before payment and in the case of not reaching a conclusion 3rd party independent arbitration by the local building inspector with any costs to be met by the contractor, since doing this I have had no problems with contractors
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I have the owner coming back out tomorrow.
@firewoodprovidersnorthwest
2 жыл бұрын
I really like watching you man, I live in Gaston area, and have a Horse Chestnut Id like to have milled, have you ever cut any Horse Chestnut.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I don’t think I have cut Horse Chestnut. How big is it?
@craigsudman4556
2 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that contractor has any intention in fixing problems with the job. He's probably laughing about how you called with roof leaks that need to be fixed. This guy rates an "F" and should be prevented from doing further contracting. Are there any consumer protection laws in your town, county, or state? Make sure he does not put a mechanic's lien on your property. If he does take him to small claims court. Nice work on the pine Jason thumbs up on the video.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Craig. I actually have the owner coming back out today. Fortunately for me, if he tried a lien, I have everything documented on video and email. He would be making a big mistake.
@AndrewAHayes
2 жыл бұрын
The stain is caused by the tannins in the bark and can range in colour from black to purple to blue and is called by people who like it as denim stain, and you need dry stickers for pine otherwise you will get black fungal staining where the stickers are placed
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I’m keeping an eye on the stickers. So far so good.
@AndrewAHayes
2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthwestSawyer Your humidity must be lower than mine as if I used fresh cut stickers there would be black stripes within 24 hrs
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewAHayes I’ve been checking every day and there’s been zero change in the wood where the stickers are. It’s still been pretty cold here at night. I don’t know if that helps.
@williaml.baptiste3597
Жыл бұрын
Spalting...blue spalting. Mycelium decomposes the wood.
@geneporter4849
2 жыл бұрын
Blue stain some people want to see it in pine
@timothyball3144
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what causes the blue staining, but it is often considered a "feature". Back in the 70s and 80s in LA Pine, there was a small mill that specialized in Blue and Buggy furniture. I was hoping that you would find the blue. I guess you could call it spalting, but I don't know enough about the details. Edit: The Googleizer says that it's caused by fungus, so I guess it's best that you wear your mask.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I think it looks really neat. I was just hoping it’s not mold.
@curtdrahn8522
2 жыл бұрын
Still one cutting Blue and Buggy, also some Juniper. Nice folks to deal with. I ran about 2500 bf through my wood shop in the last 2 yrs. I use it for some small boxes and it very colorful and popular.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@curtdrahn8522 I have a bunch more of this to mill at our yard. It’s on the ground in the weather so it should be more of the same👍🏻👍🏻
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@curtdrahn8522 I really like how it looks. I was just worried about it being black mold.
@yondersalazar9785
2 жыл бұрын
HI there, I am from Costa Rica and we are trying to buy a sawmill but they are super expencive down here. We are thinking now to buy a second hand in North America. In case some may have good information we will appreciate it . Best regards
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Look on Facebook. There are many sawmill groups on there. Prices are high here too. Even for used mills.
@terryatpi
2 жыл бұрын
Google woodland mills
@dwb73
2 жыл бұрын
Is Dawn and Pine-Sol necessary when cutting Hardwoods or only when cutting Conifers?
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
It’s mostly just for conifers that have a lot of pitch.
@mikewilson8151
2 жыл бұрын
The blue comes from beetle kill,if you get a lot blue in your logs it can be worth a lot more money than just plain yellow pine.
@eddyarundale1566
2 жыл бұрын
👋
@ralfus37
2 жыл бұрын
This lumber would look great on a wall if it book matched and stained.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@rodneydionne1087
Жыл бұрын
you can buy a 12" drywall troll for 3 bucks at wall mart you don't need to use your framing square
@leelaviolette4836
2 жыл бұрын
You need to be careful using the same sticks for drying as the boards you are drying. I always use dry wood for the stickers so they don’t stain the wet boards. Pine is bad for bluing at the stickers.
@NorthwestSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m keeping an eye on that.
@davebathie9653
2 жыл бұрын
How come you cut the boards to 5/8" if you're going to use them for paneling-?
@jamesdean5087
Жыл бұрын
After you cut the boards and stack them with stickers, for how long do you dry the boards? thanks
@NorthwestSawyer
Жыл бұрын
It all depends on thickness, species and time of year. Those pine boards are still stacked up but I’m sure are ready for use which I may do soon.
Пікірлер: 295