i dont think that bug 1 is a bug, but rather poorly thought out consequences of design.
@TheBod76
5 ай бұрын
Exactly my thoughts!
@alfarabi73
5 ай бұрын
I agree. It's probably the result of a half- or quarter-baked system.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Yeah technically it's not a bug, they need to add a fix that distant grudges have reduced weight for the Reckoning total. It has been raised as a "bug" by CA though and is on their list to fix.
@user-me7iw6ft8z
5 ай бұрын
So a bug
@Loj84
5 ай бұрын
@@user-me7iw6ft8z …no. I don’t think you know what a bug is.
@roland228
5 ай бұрын
The first "bug" doesn't look like a bug but poor design. The grudge accumulation problem could be fixed by making it that to reach 100%, one only has to fulfill part of all the grudges that have been listed down.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Yeah technically it's not a bug, they need to add a fix that distant grudges have reduced weight for the Reckoning total. It has been raised as a "bug" by CA though and is on their list to fix.
@ArstanbekOkenov
5 ай бұрын
Seems CA game designers have no idea how to play this game. Because it is really poor design. Imagine playing as the White Dwarf and having view over Skarsnik and Quick. How players suppose to settle them)
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@ArstanbekOkenov I think it's a pretty cool and interesting design, the need to finish it though and make it work a bit better.
@ArstanbekOkenov
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad Yes I agree that it is interesting design but dis balance between lords are annoying. But anyway other updates for dwarves make them much better!
@Rhinopotamus
5 ай бұрын
I love how the start of this video isn’t about bugs, it’s about explaining Dwarf racism in Warhammer.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Dwarf racism is not a bug, that's working as intended :)
@bebopsynthguy6629
5 ай бұрын
What CA not thinking about gameplay past turn 30 in their campaigns. Color me shocked. Mid to late campaign gameplay is arguably a bigger issue than siege battles in this game.
@albertjester
5 ай бұрын
Personally I've twice now had a bug in which at turn 50, multiple Legendary Grudges abort for, no reason I can figure. Most recently, it was Karak Zorn's Scorn, The Elgi Oathbreaker (which was VERY annoying as I was specifically trying to do that one to see what the unique lord is about.) Karak Eight Peaks and The Forest Elgi. No reason given, none of the factions involved died off screen or anything like that, just the second turn 50 hit, they all aborted at once.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Wow, no idea what that is about sorry. Sounds crap though.
@rodumpalumpa22
5 ай бұрын
Yep, for me was the forest Elgi that got cancelled out for no reason. and even if conquered the Wood elves trees, it took a while to appear like that in the book. No factions destroyed update though, So no special buolding in Oak of Ages.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@rodumpalumpa22 You run no mods at all? And you got legendary grudge aborted but for no reason that you can tell?
@rodumpalumpa22
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad only run the skill dump and double skill point mod. As for the legendary grudge it got aborted for no reason, appearing at the start of a turn like when you fail a mission in campaign (the only thing I did the turn before was conquering parravon, owned by Orion, and gifting it to Bretonnia.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@rodumpalumpa22 Someone reported revive dead factions mod or confed dead factions or something causing it to abort. I wonder if the factions reviving naturally also aborts it? Maybe on of the factions you needed to kill rebelled and revived?
@Morris_Minor
5 ай бұрын
so basically if it was designed better there would be no issue
@memedaddy6932
5 ай бұрын
Despite these minor issues this is still one of the best race reworks CA has ever released
@EveloGrave
5 ай бұрын
I am excited as someone who loves Kislev as Malakai will really shake thing up. Maybe I can actually go a campaign without being declared war on and swarmed by 6 different chaos factions by turn 25. Maybe.
@RainBurner13
5 ай бұрын
Ah so thats why its so frustrating to deal with. I kind of just ignore the grudge system since it became impossible to get many of the targets later on…
@bevicks9100
5 ай бұрын
Do military or defensive ally actions provide settled grudges to the dwarfs? For example, my buddy plays dwarfs and I play empire and we have a military alliance. If I attack a common enemy does that settle those grudges for the dwarf or do they just disappear?
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Not sure. I didn't notice getting any form allies, but that would be cool.
@nicky640
5 ай бұрын
I guess we start with Gelt, then. Malakai after.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
If you like, Malakai is fun and strong as hell though.
@Szaman810
5 ай бұрын
Just finished my Malakai campaign, definitely experienced the uncovered map bug. I was only able to reach gnollengrom at the very beginning, after that I considered it a victory if I could end the age of reckoning at a positive. Not unplayable, it just expects you to be unusually aggressive as far as dwarfs go.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Yeah once they put in the proposed fixes it will be a bit less haywire.
@ydin9
5 ай бұрын
The more I hear about it the more I determine this "bug" is more do with people thinking they have to min/max the AoR every time rather than it being a bug. I get that it would probably need some tweaking because of the quest battles and expansion might cause unforeseen issues but we talking about a feature that gives "free" confederation and free armies. Something like a requirement decay or settled grudge score beyond the neutral effect requirement passing over to decrease the max out of the next AoR would probably solve the "issue" as I don't think locking yourself out of AoR bonuses completely doesn't actually stop you from winning campaign.
@DM-vo2ke
5 ай бұрын
Spot on. Definitely needs toning down, especially the grudges for confed but the punishment for making 0 progress isn't that badand pretty thematic in a way. Even getting to the first stage isn't difficult. And at least this video is reasonable about it unlike some other creators
@splattbinat1542
5 ай бұрын
I just dont like having negatives if avoidable even if they are minuscule. Just does not sit right with me
@anon4854
5 ай бұрын
It's not a Khorne campaign mate. Why would Dwarfs suffer a debuff for not running around killing everything in sight? It's bad game design that is a direct contradiction to the lore. It's genuinely a terrible system for Dwarfs. If they're going to reuse old mechanics ironically the Greenskin Waaagh would have made the most sense. Dwarfs declare a grudging on a target and you get rewards/debuffs depending on the outcome.
@ydin9
5 ай бұрын
@@anon4854 Thank you for being the perfect example. I'm sorry that the game doesn't support your desire to play mountain farmville.
@anon4854
5 ай бұрын
@@ydin9 Right, because there's no middle ground between playing a Khorne campaign as the Dawi and mountain farmville. Truly exceptional logic.
@al.c.1525
5 ай бұрын
Kinda realized the new slayer lord looks like you. Any correlations in between?
@imaspirit4292
5 ай бұрын
Ugh, bug #2 has screwed my game! I'm playing with the 'recruit defeated factions/legendary lords' mod on. And havent been linking an eye to accepting the confed with dead factions. Now it costs 150,000 grudges to confed ANY dwarf lord
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Youch! I wanted to get this video to help people avoid that stuff till the bugs are fixed, sorry it was too late for you! Fixes should be coming very soon anyway.
@voodoodummie
4 ай бұрын
maybe the grudge system should be tied to your faction power or wealth for each age of reckoning. As you grow, then the expectations from your dwarven-kin also grow.
@MercytheMad
4 ай бұрын
It has been updated now. It calculates grudges only based on factions that touch your borders (instead of every facition you have ever met). So you can naturally gain contact with more factions as you get bigger, kind of how you suggest.
@imperialhistory3585
5 ай бұрын
Do you know when they are supposed to try to patch it? Like before the release or in the next patch, thanks.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
I don't think there is a set timeline, soon after launch is the hope.
@Loj84
5 ай бұрын
The second one seems like it would be a pretty easy fix, so hopefully soon. The first one is less of a bug and more of a design problem, which could take some time.
@imperialhistory3585
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply, the Dwarfs are my favorite race! I was just curious but I'm glad you kinda gave a guide on how to navigate before the patch.
@anon4854
5 ай бұрын
Already a mod on workshop that caps AoR at 20k. Hopefully it gets developed because CA will probably only fk this up further.
@thebodyfighter5498
3 ай бұрын
I have a bug where my game crash after turn 4 of campaign of any dwarf faction campaign, what could be the reason?
@MercytheMad
3 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of that one, sorry mate. Maybe look online. I can only suggest the normal stuff like verify your game files, reinstall etc.
@janmantsch6675
5 ай бұрын
Maybe linking it to the ammout of settelments you have could fix the grudge problem: like there could be a cap and every settelment adds to that cap for the next round of grudges, perhaps also having lords and heroes could also add to that.
@jamesrosenbaum8770
5 ай бұрын
I think it'd be nice if there was a way to reduce "% of known grudges" required to age up through the tech tree. Instead of 100% grodges, you now only need to have 90% of grudges or something.
@Talorc1
5 ай бұрын
CA has acknolwedged and posted how they are intending to fix them on the hotfix patch notes. Sounds like it will be at least a few weeks though - tempted to not pickup a Dwarf campaign until they do change them
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't worry, dwarfs are very strong regardless and you can pretty much just ignore the Age of Reckoning if you are really worried. Follow the suggestions in the video if you want to have a good experience with the current version though.
@Deerygccawwetthjbgde
5 ай бұрын
The Great book of grudges… remains full…!
@joebrownbambi
5 ай бұрын
it feels like this will be bad in coop MP campaigns
@arykaas
5 ай бұрын
yeah ... I'm planning a coop multi game once the DLC drops ... I was going to go Malakai Makaison but the grudge system might make me reconsider and keep that one for a single player run later ....
@joebrownbambi
5 ай бұрын
@@arykaas me and the friend i play with most are super excited of rthe DLC but more for the units, i think we doing a franz and gelt campign first, and he plans on staying in cathay
@freedomfighter22222
5 ай бұрын
@@arykaas You could always just play a versus campaign and don't ally each other but act as if you were, not an entirely perfect fix but would allow you to play what you want to play the most.
@DaemonPrince
5 ай бұрын
I keep saying this, The absolute easiest fix, is to instead of making the age of reckoning a every 10 turn thing you HAVE to do, make it so you can declare an age of reckoning againts a faction/race that you will have 10 turns to right all the grudges they accrue, this would immensely fix this huge problem that will go bad.
@minderbart1
5 ай бұрын
you DO NOT HAVE TO do it.
@Loj84
5 ай бұрын
Sure, that may be an easy fix, but it’s not a very good one imo. First of all because it’s too similar to the greenskin WAAAGH, and second of all because it’s not thematic for the race. Grudges should be something you constantly have to work on if you don’t want to face penalties.
@DaemonPrince
5 ай бұрын
@@minderbart1 you do, after the first delay you have to collect 20% more grudges, cant delay it a 2nd time.
@DaemonPrince
5 ай бұрын
@@Loj84 it is a copy of the greenskins waaagh mechanic as its pretty good, and it is thematic for the race to declare an age of reckoning againts an entire race, I put down faction/race as a either or to offer the option. They shouldnt have to be something constantly hitting you or facing penaltys. And it would be more thematic to the race because of Thorgrim is the one who declares an age of reckoning, but obviously somethings in lore have to be sacrificed for gameplay, I dont see this breaking lore or being a problem to copy faction mechanics which CA has already done before.
@mayiiq4
5 ай бұрын
Great vid Mercy! Do we know what happens if a military ally takes a settlement with a lot of grudges? Would it count towards the Age of Reckoning?
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Not sure what happens when others attack grudged enemies, don't think you get credit for it, but I assume it knocks the grudges down, will have to test.
@Diamondeye299
5 ай бұрын
Wait did they change the terrain of Norsca to be primarily frozen instead of chaos wastes??? At 3:38 Or is he using a mod to change it?
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
yeah I think Norsca is frozen now, but chaos wastes is still chaos
@DaemonPrince
5 ай бұрын
its been like that for a very long time now, alot of norsca is frozen terrain as a way to let Kislev be able to dip into that land for expansion, its still setup with a ton of chaos corruption but its habitable now.
@Loj84
5 ай бұрын
@@DaemonPrince they did change it in 5.0. It had a lot of frozen territory before, now it’s 100% frozen.
@stashunko
5 ай бұрын
Maybe a system where the game assigns a weightage to the grudges incurred based on diplomatic status (i.e. a faction you are at war with counts for far more "grudginess" than some far off Norscan faction that called your aunt Helga short that one time) as well as based on proximity (i.e. Queek's grudge-worthy actions should count for more when you're playing say Thorgrim or Thorek then say Malekith, even though Malektith could be at war with far off Grombrindal). That way as you expand, new enemies could become the main focus of your grudge-points to keep the current dynamic feel of the system without making it prohibitively expensive if you decide to expand quickly... That said, I'm completely in agreement with the comments below that not every mechanic needs to be fulfilled 100% of the time every time in order to enjoy the game.. in fact the harder it is to hit that 100%, the more impactful and meaningful it becomes.. otherwise it becomes just another chore to get through before you hit the end turn button and what's the point of that.
@bovinehamster
5 ай бұрын
dear sir, one is never afraid of playing the dwarves, bugs or not
@Nobdythere
5 ай бұрын
Incredible explanation. Amazing. Thanks.
@thelibra101219
5 ай бұрын
Creative Assembly.... Grudge + 5000
@rygo666
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! Quick question though. How does the new grudge system affect alliances. (Not concerned about the bugs) But is it possible to make and keep alliances with the order factions without the new grudge system breaking them. Put another way, do you have to play super aggressive like Skarbrand and wipe everyone out you meet regardless of alliances and order/chaos line?
@ArstanbekOkenov
5 ай бұрын
The grudges grow only if factions occupied dwarf settlements, trespassing their lands, declaring a war against them etc. But other factions (including chaos’s, which is weird) have almost no grudges so you can ally with them.
@kubka4
5 ай бұрын
I believe that alliances would mean that they can do less bad towards dwarfs and therefore also get less grudges and you can easily just "ignore" them and focus on wiping the bad guys.
@Nerazmus
5 ай бұрын
@@ArstanbekOkenov It depends on what they do. Chaos start with little because they aren't offending dwarves.
@ArstanbekOkenov
5 ай бұрын
@@Nerazmus Yes you are right, they are too far from main dwarfs settlements, but having Archaon and Valkia with 25 grudges is weird as they are potential threat and in the victory condition of the Grombrindal and Malakai.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
If you have positive diplomatic relations (like non aggression pacts etc you will get negative grudges (like -100 or 150 or more for their entire faction). You can actually use this to strip grudges off factions (although it doesn't count towards your solve grudges. It would be pretty hard for an ally to actually have any grudges on them unless they are allied with you whilst simultaneously doing the worst dwarf genocide on another dwarf faction. Surrounding yourself with NAPs, Trade and Military Access (not no vison gaining alliances) will actually lower the amount of grudges in your sphere.
@jordancolby222
5 ай бұрын
Yo when you get to max grudges instead of a reward like oath gold the age of reckoning should just complete and you can start a new one where you can keep collecting grudges! Just a thought!
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Good idea
@Heincinqsix
5 ай бұрын
"SMALL" That goes in the book !
@ArstanbekOkenov
5 ай бұрын
But the book is bugged. Seems it will be fixed in SHORT time:)
@hoodedwizard4695
5 ай бұрын
You see, the new system can encourage slow expansion. No worries. 😅
@MrStubbs8157
5 ай бұрын
My third age of reckoning, after getting the first but failing to get the other...Not only do I suffer 10 round on the debuff, I can also not continue for another 10 rounds....so...20 rounds of crap, 10 rounds of it suffering quite hard and now on turn 30, I have to collect 51900 grudges :) I didnt look anywhere beyond my 3 sides. Problem perhaps: Multiplayer campaign and more vision? I counted: I would have needed to consume all my enemies around me, three parties that declared war on my friend and me being in the midst of it fending them off on 3 frontlines with malakai. I get it...we just play normal....but man its frutrating, because taking 13 settlements in 10 turns will only give me around 8000 grudges....so I would have to leave my area on top with a 3rd army and possibly have to kill at least 2 more favourable factions with a lot of grudges .....and even then I would count to perhaps 30k...not nearly 60k. Its unplayable tbh. Perhaps if you are alone but who plays videogames alone? I am not that type of guy. :)
@MrStubbs8157
5 ай бұрын
I also need to figure out to max the dwarf gold....it took me ages as well to get to the 200 gold to open the smithy. And then the cost per rune is quite high. I will get there and I guess I will earn more once its rolling ...but still a lot to do and a lot to max out.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@MrStubbs8157 If I were you, I would simply ignore the age of reckoning mechanic in Multiplayer. If you are back to back with your partner and basically share vison you can probably still get it sometimes, but if you are in two totally separate areas, you will have basically double your grudge target at all times. So *just ignore it* - it's only -25 growth and 3 pubic order, it's fairly easily countered, just upgrade your growth buildings 1 level. It's more "slightly annoying" than "unplayable" I would say. The instant post battle replenishment and other dwarf buffs more than makes up for it IMO, dwarfs are very strong now, even if you tank on every single AoR. Edit: Did you see today's blog with the proposed changes: community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/forums/7-patch-notes-amp-announcements/threads/4989-total-war-warhammer-iii-hotfix-5-0-1
@teenageanarchist861
5 ай бұрын
In my Co-Op Multiplayer it actually costs me over 200k Grudges to confederate a 1 province thorgrim
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@teenageanarchist861 That is an epic amount of grudges, how did you manage that? Is that because you confederated a shit-ton of other factions first? Or did Thorgrim rack up thousands of grudges himself via Dwarf end game or soething.
@Gudgeify
5 ай бұрын
I can see Bug #1 being a really bad issue for multiplayer co-op campaigns with one or more dwarf factions, it will accelerate way faster than in a single player game and make that age of reckoning unplayable.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
You might have trouble maxing your age of reckoning, but the Dwarfs would still be far from unplayable. Even with the maximum penalty from failing the AoR every time you could probably still play pretty comfortably I think. Dawi are pretty strong now. Vey high growth and replenishment now.
@Gudgeify
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad thanks I'll see how it looks I guess, been waiting a long time for a dorf update so wanna wait till I can get the most out of it.
@GoblinxChild
5 ай бұрын
I feel like people are really panicking about this more than they should. Yes its “bugged” a bit, but I also dont think its a system that is meant for you to max out every single cycle. Its seem like you’re meant to have good ages and bad for balance. It would be super broken if you hit max tier every single time.
@freedomfighter22222
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well, being able to hit that max tier every single cycle should be difficult, something you do a few cycles every game when everything is going right but most of the cycles you should only hit a more middle tier reward. However, as the system is now it seems to be easy to reach max tier the first few cycles and then next to impossible in the late game, a good design should make it relatively similarly difficult every cycle throughout the game, perhaps tying it to your gross income as your relative nation strength should guide how many grudges your people expect you to put right in a given time.
@KrayZee33
5 ай бұрын
You can't expect the modern gamer to suffer through a red text (no matter how little it does), it will forever be on his resume that he failed to do a mechanic or not do complete something to perfection. Oh the humanity. The way I understood it and how the mechanic works - it's "high tide - low tide" You complete grudges even if you fail and the next cycle will have fewer requirements, if you fail again, it's less again which will automatically give you a good cycle again because the requirements are low or easy to reach this time around, then it increases by 100% again and it becomes more difficult, so you may suffer a penalty (basically, the "penalty" is not having the bonus, it's hardly worth calling it a debuff to growth or PO) The requirements get reduced by x% for the next cycle, the grudges are still there though -> so it's easier again.
@GoblinxChild
5 ай бұрын
@@freedomfighter22222 Exactly. There are definitely tweaks to be made, but it's still something that needs to be managed intelligently by players.
@GoblinxChild
5 ай бұрын
@@KrayZee33 I wasn't aware that grudge requirements could be reduced based on the prior age. I thought they either just stayed put or went up. That definitely makes things better. I agree though, the grudge system seems to have a natural ebb and flow based on how the player is doing. It certainly reflects the lore perspective of the dwarfs.
@KrayZee33
5 ай бұрын
@@GoblinxChild In another video I saw it drop down from 7700 to 5600 when the player only managed to complete the first %-part So I don't know how exactly it works, but its not always increasing and probably not 100% reliant on all grudges currently available, because in the video he had 3 enemy armies of 1500+ grudges ready to pick up. So unless that was literally all he could see, I don't think it's just reliant on what you can get. In fact, since it increases by 100% each time you achieve the full thing, it can't be based solely on that
@SuperSnowshark
5 ай бұрын
I was planning on doing a Dwarf co-op campaign with two friends when the update drops, but it seems like the amount of factions I'd get vision of from my allies would just be absolutely crippling for me. :/
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Hm, not necessarily. Even if you completely ignore the Grudge mechanic and don't even try - Dwarf growth is super strong now, so even with the max penalty of -25 you would still have more growth than you had prior to 5.0. -1 or even -3 public order is not that bad and you can just not maintain grudge settler units. It's not really crippling at all, you just might not get all the bonus goodies.
@JACKplusBLANK
4 ай бұрын
It's still kinda broken. I went from 26,000 grudges to 46,000 in one age of reckoning just because of map visibility and to make it worse almost all enemy factions i fight only give me a 100 or so grudges per settlement or army i fight. It makes it almost impossible to reach the second rank just to avoid the penalties.
@MercytheMad
4 ай бұрын
Has that sort of thing happened to you often? I haven't really had that happen much at all (although of course you can still be unlucky). Feels a lot better to me, even if you get some problems. Maybe I just need to play more.
@charlemagne4261
5 ай бұрын
they should just add 10% on top of the grudge number not 300% as it seems to be. No one can reach those high numbers.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
I don't think it's 300%. It's more like around 100% or less than 100% I think. But the grudges in your vision range often increase during the ten turns so the AoR may be much less than the actual grudges available when you do it. I think the idea to only count grudges that are close to you is the idea.
@filterdecay
5 ай бұрын
grudge herpes be spreading everywhere
@domi8242
5 ай бұрын
You are a cool guy mercy
@whiskeyfalcons
5 ай бұрын
Great video Mercy!
@gregoryshinn9805
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@minderbart1
5 ай бұрын
those don't seem like bugs but a consequence of how it works. i also fail to see the big problem here. so the total number of needed grudges grows when you get more grudges.. yes and? you're not able to always get the maximum reckoning... yes and? ca should probably tweak the numbers a bit but these aren't bugs they're wad.
@zharkabat
5 ай бұрын
Those are not bugs... they are unbalance mechanics. The actual bug is what happend with the vampire armies that appear next to silver pinnacle when you build the landmark. They dont attack you and you cant declare war on them, so they sit there forever
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
They are "bugs" in the sense that CA has classified it as a 'bug' internally and it's on their list of broken things to fix.
@YEKOBness
5 ай бұрын
It’s a bad system. The continuous never ending age of reckoning is pretty dumb. It should probably be a toggle based thing where you can you know…. Start an age of reckoning
@Nerazmus
5 ай бұрын
1: Yes, revealing more factions through alliances and such will increase the amount needed. But if you are smart with your alliances and wars, in also increases the amount of grudges you get. So it's about not being dumb. Basically, RP a dawi. Don't get involved in shit that's not your business. The quest battles should definitely not do that, imo. Also, you are not supposed to fill the meter every 10 turns. You are supposed to only activate the 100 AoR when you need it. 2: Confederate a minor faction? Yeah, doing that sounds like a bug between chair and keyboard :D
@banelingsx4244
5 ай бұрын
The 1. bug is just skillissue
@Lukashoffmann94
5 ай бұрын
4:20 Pretty good growth? You are tier 4 on your MAIN settlement at turn 50 and probably another 20 turns away from tier 5.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@Lukashoffmann94 Yeah I wasn't focussed on growth, it's not really that big of a deal anymore. Not sure if I actually built any growth buildings. So pretty good growth for zero growth buildings :P
@Lukashoffmann94
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad Ok, still wouldn’t call it good growth though, not when other factions can instantly push out tier 5 settlements at that point.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@Lukashoffmann94 My point was that even -25 is not that big of a deal, you can overcome it with buildings pretty easily, if you are planning to tank every age of reckoning for the max penalty.
@heykak
5 ай бұрын
I thought you were going to mention the fact that legendary grudges (with significant rewards) can get aborted and not be completeable
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
I did encounter that, with the Karaz Dum one, but that was after I made the video I think, or I just didn't think of it.
@Jay12321Jay
5 ай бұрын
Dwarfs are DEFINITELY unplayable. Don't see how anyone could try to say anything else. Start with Elsbeth if you want to play. Sponsored by CA? 🤨Because shipping it with these kind of misses was not okay.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
I have played Malakai, Ungrim, Belegar and Thorgrim in 5.0 system - had no problem with any of those campaigns, so I can say definitely, the dwarfs are playable and many of us are playing them right now. I think you probably mean that the Age of Reckoning is busted in the ways I outlined in the video? Yes it is.
@Jay12321Jay
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad paying new-game-money for the mess you called "busted" is unplayable. Not only for what you mentioned in the video but also for how overpowered lots of the new features are. Most overpowered so far, even worse than Chaos Dwarfs
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@Jay12321Jay Ah OK, I understand what you mean now. Like "unnacceptable" or "unforgivable". When you say "unplayable" I thought you meant, literally cannot be played. I was in no way arguing about the value of the DLC, or anythign like what you are talking about. I was trying to reassure people who want to play dwarfs and enjoy them now regardless, that you CAN play them now and enjoy them and you shouldn't be put off by the broken AoR mechanic.
@realhollow3675
5 ай бұрын
So co-op dwarf campagins in MP are dead then as the dwarf player will get screwed by tyour vision too
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Nah I don't think so, even if you totally fail every Age of Reckoning you will probably still dominate. Dwarfs are strong now, Strong growth, strong replenishment, tier 2 heroes, most good units at low tiers. They are just super strong I think.
@realhollow3675
5 ай бұрын
@MercytheMad I tried it with a friend he was empire I was malki by turn 30 I need 50k grudge points as his vision was giving me grudges on things he was at war with.
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
@@realhollow3675 Yeah, you might just have to accept you wont be able to hit gnollengrom (max grudges) for a few cycles. Eventually once you get big and have multiple armies etc it will settle down a bit and you might be able to get some lower targets and do a bit better. Just build an extra growth building in each province to make up for it I guess.
@Coerciveutopian
5 ай бұрын
Bug 1 actually seems totally reasonable. It should be very hard to settle all the grudges and get the super units.
@Loj84
5 ай бұрын
Sure, but you should not be punished for doing things you are supposed to do. Quest battles especially.
@Coerciveutopian
5 ай бұрын
@@Loj84 I don't see that as "punishment". You are going over to that location for the battle so you are meeting people over there.
@rosalina2938
5 ай бұрын
Grudge
@Just_PhilipK
5 ай бұрын
Couldn't you just fight and eliminate all the other Dwarfs before they gain a lot of Grudges and then confederate them?
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
Yes! But you are evil.
@Just_PhilipK
5 ай бұрын
@@MercytheMad It's for the greater good of Dawi kind!
@AliothAncalagon
5 ай бұрын
Personally, I just want a new system. The AoR rework feels completely out of place, takes control away from the player and rewards him with stuff he shouldn't be rewarded with in the first place. I am very disappointed CA went for this approach instead of giving us a proper Karak rework.
@Nozdormu1982
5 ай бұрын
As long as these bugs exist, the fact I have vision on this channel increases the amount of grudges CA must overcome. Or there shall be another age of reckoning.
@XXLPIakat
5 ай бұрын
How do you only need 15k more? Grombindal has 5k grudges and I need 80081 grudges to confederate him, I'm playing as Belegar Ah, I confederated 3 minors before. :T
@MercytheMad
5 ай бұрын
There is a bug at the moment, EVERY faction you confed, including minor factions increases the total required by 15k. So if you want to confederte the legendary Lords you cannot confederate ANY minor factions, not even with your starting dilemma. CA has flagged it as a bug but it is not fixed yet.
@jkhee
5 ай бұрын
New DLCs are so so buggy as usual..
@cedriczwerg6030
5 ай бұрын
but the system isn't meant to reach 100% every time?? more like 50%. therefore i dotn think this is an issue. also its stays in lore, that you should not expand too much
@czareknowak5805
5 ай бұрын
DOnt worry after yer they will fix it in patch 6.0 -.-
@KommandoVendetta-hj7bd
5 ай бұрын
Why does everything have to be some gimmicky bullshit?
@Turican76
5 ай бұрын
2 years out, still bugged and no balance. and naive people pay 25 for a few units 💩
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