Got 2 recently. 2.4 ProWall. 735 and 740 grams. A little overweight but I guess that adds to durability. Love the gold color labels on these. Other colors available now too
@LoveMTB
12 күн бұрын
Yeah they’re the “Color” series
@rianmehling2918
3 ай бұрын
As always, I appreciate your research and experimentation. Following your lead from the original video, running the exact same setup. Great grip and XC Racing light, two thumbs up!
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experience🤘
@davidv6803
3 ай бұрын
BicycleRollingResistance does not recommend these based on high rolling resistance but I'm glad you're happy with them in real-world conditions.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
You know how it is with lab tests...they are the starting point for more tests :)
@fra93ilgrande
3 ай бұрын
And that’s exactly what I love about them, their grip is AMAZING even in the wet
@dominicbritt
3 ай бұрын
It’s a MTB tyre… rolling resistance is way down the priority list…
@steveschurr5967
3 ай бұрын
Next to the tire manufacturers testing equipment Bicycle Rolling Resistance isn't very credible. Manufacturers all say the same thing. You can't test rolling resistance on a steel drum and that is extra true for off pavement tires. If the testing was a reliable indicator of rolling resistance, the highest rated tires' manufacturers would all be advertising on the site, or using BRR's conclusion in their own marketing. Watch a you tube tour of one of the major tire companies facilities. They do much more extensive testing in much more controlled environments. They also ride them in real life conditions for the particular type of tire being tested using consistant power outputs. You can also get a good idea by watching what tires the pros actually use. Even if those riders are sponsored, you can still see which tire they use from their particular sponsor"s tire line up. BRR is great for getting an idea about certain tires, and at times they do offer a good and insightful point in their narrative about a particular tire, but, take it with a grain of salt.They test only a limited number of tires with testing equipment they created, It isn't really science.
@SixGunTodd
3 ай бұрын
@@dominicbrittfor some perhaps....but ever ride ultra endurance ? 60-100 miles on a slow tire will absolutely kill stamina.
@ЛёхаБукреев
3 ай бұрын
I put them on my XC bike this spring. One XCM and two XCO were already done with them and i am super happy how they perform! Highly recomended tyre
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Yup, pretty much our experience!
@eddyfusely503
3 ай бұрын
Great to hear. I still need to install mine but probably won’t until the current tires need to be replaced
@finroddd
3 ай бұрын
I am using Scorpion Enduro S - no issues so far, feels very stable.
@chadbouterse8617
3 ай бұрын
I switched to these from schwalbe after seeing your first video on them. Loved the performance, but had a large tear (1-2 inches) in the center of the tread on two separate tires. Both resulted in hike-a-biking out of the trail. The first time I thought there must have been a piece of metal in the trail. Ive been riding MTB for 25 years and never seen a tear like that. When it happened again 2 months later, I went back to the racing ralphs…
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Tough exxperience for you I would say. We were on Schwalbe prior to this and for us, never again if these are available.
@chadbouterse8617
3 ай бұрын
Forgot to mention I love the channel and the content!
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
@@chadbouterse8617 thank you ☺️
@frankschock9981
21 күн бұрын
@LoveMTB Did you try the newest 2.35 Ralph and Ray?
@LoveMTB
20 күн бұрын
@@frankschock9981 No and I probably won't I'm done with that Schwalbe rubber/ lack of grip 🙂
@BOys85
3 ай бұрын
My favorite XC tire! Depends on the course , XCRC F/R or Scorpion M front and xcrc Rear very good combo :)
@donnovicki9771
3 ай бұрын
No experience with Pirelli, however they do make a heck of a calendar......cheers
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Haha yeah, Italian love 😎
@stated10000
11 күн бұрын
Got these 2.4in wide for son's bike, he will do a xc race without them this weekend due to delivery delay, keen to see how these will improve lap times when he races again in 1-2months, stock tires are 350-400g heavier but similar width.
@LoveMTB
11 күн бұрын
@@stated10000 what kind of pressure do you plan to use? Tubeless? Look for Silca tire pressure calculator as a guide
@stated10000
11 күн бұрын
@@LoveMTB planning on 12.5f/14r or just over, current tires re 2.3in bt measure exactly like 2.5in maxxis ones(62mm) so they will be similar to the pirelli 2.4in except they are 70tpi(yes 70) and my maxxis 2.5in are 60, so on the 120tpi pirrelli I might go 14/16 but will see, I am just going by feel and son is 40~41kg. Will research further, cheers.
@stated10000
9 күн бұрын
So he came 3rd out of 4 people but put a much better effort this time in a strong field with more consistent laps except 3rd lap where he crashed and lost some time, this was with the stock tires, if the xc rc arrived before the race they might have avoided the crash for him, maybe. I put 12.5/13.5 psi. We'll see if xc rc do some improvements against the field next race.
@stated10000
6 күн бұрын
One measured 670g and the other 701g in 2.4in, interestingly stock 2.3in measured 950g and 910g. Xc rc are big volume tires so the tread measure 1 or 2mm less than sidewall, 490g weight reduction is great for $140 australian dollars. They feel great and similar to stoc ones but thinner tread, 120tpi doesn't feel too bad and will probably run these at 13/15 psi(my 11year old son averages 15kph at best) will increase a bit as he gets older-bigger-faster.
@LoveMTB
6 күн бұрын
@@stated10000 he’ll do great with the new tires I have 3 sets in use in our house all the time!
@David_S21
3 ай бұрын
Me and my son always use schwalbe Racing ralph and Racing ray and thunder Burt in the warmer season, but we'll be giving these a go shortly
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
We used to use those same tires....curios what you think after trying these!
@user-tb7rb6lt3d
3 ай бұрын
They look good, i was looking at the hutchinsons too, they seem good also, the big players don't always make good tyres in the mtb market, i wish IRC tyres were still easily availiable like back in the old days, great tyres
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Good enough that the TREK world cup teams use these as oposed to their own Bontrager. Wonder if they will switch back with the launch of their redesigned/ rebranded line of tires?
@fra93ilgrande
3 ай бұрын
It’s been almost a year since I got them, still perfect 😎 almost no signs of wear yet
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Happy trails!
@hardmtnbiker
3 ай бұрын
Obviously the wear and tear is subjective to the trails you frequently ride and your riding style. That XC type of tire would probably get chewed up pretty quickly on my local trails. The closest type of tire I used was the Schwalbe Racing Ralph XC tires, this was before I started using CushCore inserts and those were clapped out after a couple of weeks. BTW, I love the Berd Spoke wheels. I just ordered another set. They’re amazing!
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Oh yeah trails one rides would make a huge difference in tire selection. As for the BERD wheels...they are the real deal aren't they?? 😎
@MTB_CRZY
3 ай бұрын
I loved my Hutchinson tires from the French! I use the Kraken up front and the skeleton in the rear. They have a nice layered sidewall for protection, very decent tread pattern for traction in most conditions (not super great in very wet conditions) and they are pretty light weight. The only bad part about them is that they dont sell them anywhere here in the US so youd have to buy them over seas and have them shipped to the US/Canada. Thought about getting some XC RC tires but now im really excited about the new Bontrager tires coming out with 220tpi casings! Id love to have you review them when you get a chance to snag some :)
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
I hear you, I know a thing or two about availability of parts on this side of the pond. As for the 220 tpi….i know people that used the 170 Aspens and declared that they are race only, not worth it. Back to 120 and 60 tpi. Let me know if you try them I’m curious about the new Bontis also
@1986mancini
2 ай бұрын
I'm about to test the new Hutchinson python race , weight on my scale was 605g
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
@@1986mancini that’s great weight what casing ?
@BikeMageSuspensionUpgrades
2 ай бұрын
Great vid! Might be my next set!
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
Good choice! And we can talk about it if you're on the fence😏
@benmillns8976
3 ай бұрын
I'm very tempted by these but I think I'd want something a little more aggressive on the front. I'm currently using the Michelin XC2 tyres - 2.35 Wild measures 2.44 up front and 2.25 force measures 2.35 on the rear.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Take a look at these other Pirellis - kzitem.info/news/bejne/mY172oeVgZmqm4o
@ilidiofaria
3 ай бұрын
I’m using Pirelli Scorpion for the last month and I’m very happy overall.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@frankschock9981
21 күн бұрын
Did you have a chance to weigh them?
@LoveMTB
21 күн бұрын
@@frankschock9981 used? I have weighted them in the initial video
@frankschock9981
21 күн бұрын
Your Pirellis came at an accurate weight but I'm curious about others. My XC-M's came at 863 and 853 grams well over the 820 gram claimed weight. Disappointing weight for an XC tire. They seem durable atleast. I ordered a couple 2.4 ProWall XC RC's hoping they are close to the 700 claimed weight.
@manseliasson
3 ай бұрын
You have to try the new aspen and aspen st with 170tpi. Love your videos :)
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
I e seen the new Aspens and talked to people that replaced them rather quickly. And I have the old Aspens. So nah😊
@jespersrensen2919
3 ай бұрын
run Maxis Minion DHF front, and Goodyear JET XC rear... had Maxxis Aggressor rear but they were hard to get up to speed (very grippy) JET XC is fast and durable, but not the most puncture resistant (trade off??!)
@ardent5153
3 ай бұрын
My favorite tyres for XC a Vittoria Mezcal and Vittoria Barzo.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Yeah have an older review of that combo!
@1986mancini
2 ай бұрын
I like mezcal as a front tire but it does plug with mud
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
@@1986mancini I liked the Barzo/ Mescal combo, Barzo is much better in clearing mud
@silver_c1oud
10 күн бұрын
i still love Continental Race king i wish they had atleast 2.25
@LoveMTB
9 күн бұрын
@@silver_c1oud Olympic Games won on that tire. Both!
@andrewsiasparks
3 ай бұрын
I don't race but I run Goodyear Newton and escape on my trail bike and Schwelbe Big Ben on my jump/ street MTB bikes
@rodrigofuentes6324
3 ай бұрын
they are highly recommending kenda and specialized tires, any thoughts or future reviews ?
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
I’ll see what I can do 😉
@bertusbob
3 ай бұрын
Pirelli Scorpion, for me the best..
@AndreLaurentMTB
3 ай бұрын
Good they worked for you for so long. I have bailed on both pro walk xc within a year of starting use. They kept working but after 3 or 4 months of my heavy use they noticeably lose grip in hard cornering under loose dry or dusty conditions and do NOT work well in the colder wet conditions of late fall or early spring... IMHO not worth the money for the duration of use & can't trust the grip as they wear.. I have retired both tires with 50% or more tread left...
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Late fall and early spring we use different tires, these are what they’re meant to be for dry but have predictable grip in wet-ish conditions. What are you using instead?
@AndreLaurentMTB
3 ай бұрын
@@LoveMTB my normal tires are Maxxis Forekaster front and specialized ground control T5 rear. However, I'm testing Michelin Enduro wild front magi-x2 & gum-x rear for gravely, dry, dusty conditions. We'll see how they handle this season...
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
@@AndreLaurentMTB got it, good choices. But those tires, all of them are in a different league vs XC RC that were launched for XC races at the Olympic Games in Tokyo
@AndreLaurentMTB
3 ай бұрын
@@LoveMTB that's always the issue. What are your riding conditions. Trying to find an all round tire is difficult and swapping tires is asking for trouble and hard work. Too many people ride southern Ontario 90% XC type trails work DH rated, heavy as hell tires or super light XC racing tires that get shredded on the first rock garden they encounter.... Taking the time to review your tires and where/when they are appropriate is appreciated...
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
@@AndreLaurentMTB 💯 agree way way too many DHR/DHF for the terrain we ride. We are fortunate to have different wheels/ bikes for trail riding and fun so we can park the XC racing bikes
@1986mancini
2 ай бұрын
Pirelli Scorpion m lite casing still my all time favourite front tire but to slow as a rear
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
Interesting, what do you use in the back with this front?
@stoneysanders628
3 ай бұрын
I find it "funny" that you use the lighter tire on the rear. Most would recommend running the heavier, reinforced tire on the rear.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
There is a logic to it😊 Lighter sidewalks provide better rolling resistance but they are not as stiff and can fold. So that’s when the insert comes in, stabilizes the sidewalk and protects the rim. Higher pressure on rear vs front also so front with ProWall is stable enough without the insert. There you have it
@aeroplan6664
2 ай бұрын
Im interesting how its looks like with comparison to raceking black chili?
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately don’t have any in hand but this will corner way better in all kind of conditions due to that pronounced cornering knobs
@bartoszgaudyn6801
2 ай бұрын
Hi! I ride on paved forest paths with an electric bike. Currently on the front I have: Maxxis Minion DHF, 3C, Maxterra, EXO+, TR, 29" x 2.5" WT and Maxxis Minion DHR II, 3C, Maxterra, EXO+, TR, 29" x 2.4" WT. I think this tire is too aggressive for my routes. I'm thinking about changing to Vittoria Mezcal 2.35 or PIRELLI SCORPION 2.4. Do you think these tires will be suitable for eMTB on forest paths?
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
If it is just a forest path why not go Dissector front and REKON rear? Just a thought.
@LaurentiusTriarius
3 ай бұрын
My own research has proven many times that running low psi in low traction tires doesn't have any benefit, I'd say it's a recipe for slowness and lack of confidence in rocky parts. That's just an opinion 😊
@laurikuris7721
Ай бұрын
how to you compare it to wolfpack tires?
@LoveMTB
Ай бұрын
@@laurikuris7721 unfortunately no experience with those
@trentvlak
3 ай бұрын
What was the casing width and what rim width are you using? I'm tired of trying to ride 2.4 tires only to find they're under 2.3.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Check the description for the full initial review w weights and dimensions. They are big
@sergioq.4005
3 ай бұрын
Por el precio que pagamos deberían durar mucho más
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
Ellos duran mucho más que Schwalbe, lo sé mucho!
@sergioq.4005
2 ай бұрын
A@@LoveMTBAún así nos cobran demasiado.
@amaridev
2 ай бұрын
Can't decide between racing ralph / racing ray and those xc rcs. Do they feel still fast when you ride parts of pavement in between or to/from trails?
@1986mancini
2 ай бұрын
Schwables are faster on pavement. Schwables very good for rear tire, pirelli much better as front tire.
@nicholkid
3 ай бұрын
I'm sold on trying these but they are hard to find for sale without ordering from weird sites. Also when I do see them in Canada they are $120 😮. I'll probably stick with specialized tires for almost half.
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
I know what you mean hard to find around here or always expensive 😩
@nicholkid
2 ай бұрын
For the record, I found them on bikeinn for $170 cad for 2, all in cost. Apparently the prices are legit on that site. Crazy shipping price, but the total is still cheaper than most other tire options.
@LoveMTB
2 ай бұрын
@@nicholkid pretty much what I got them for from BI as well as
@thomassrensen2141
3 ай бұрын
I do not understand why they put yellow text on the side wall of the tires. Not everyone wants to have big bright advertising on their bikes
@LoveMTB
3 ай бұрын
They have the silver version of most tires also 😉
@ArdianSutarjan
3 ай бұрын
Pirelli tires are already famous for being used in Formula 1 races, so more people like the big bright advertising Companies prioritize the majority of people
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