Subscribe or I will steal your cymbals: bit.ly/2AyH1Fb Art Blakey. Philly Joe Jones. Tony Williams. Gene Krupa. Buddy Rich. Elvin Jones. Brian Blade. Who are the greatest jazz drummers of all time? More importantly, how do we decide which jazz drummer to put on that list and which jazz drummer to leave off? Well, that's exactly what we're talking about in this drum video. The development of the drum set and jazz drumming go hand in hand. You don't have one without the other. In this new series, I will be looking at the greatest drummers in different genre's of music. We're starting with jazz drumming. Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts on who the greatest jazz drummers of all time are!
@thecrippledrummer
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Taylor just a note that someone probably already mentioned, you accidentally mixed up Papa Jo & Philly Joe early in the video.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Drumuitar mixed up how?
@thecrippledrummer
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Taylor you said Philly Joe when you meant Papa Jo...in reference to moving from bass to hi-hat time keeping. No big whoop👍🏻
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Drumuitar lol, I knew I was gonna do that! Good ear
@thecrippledrummer
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Taylor Lol. It’s totally understandable
@stalliec
4 жыл бұрын
I met Roy Haynes hew was eating dinner alone backstage in between sets and they let me go in, I asked him to sign the Modern Drummer he was on cover. He looks it over says "man I loved that shirt, wonder where that went". Then he see's the old article I had pages dog-eared and worn, highlighted, pencil marks in the margins, measures circled, all beat up. He says "I see you been working on my shit!". I said "Roy, I take one or two measure, work on it for a year, and still don't have it down." He signed the cover and said "hey man, I've been working on my own shit my whole life and I still don't have it down."
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Man, what a great story. A recurring theme I’ve found with the historic greats is that most of them have that same mindset. That they’re still just working on their own thing trying to be better. Really cool that you have that story.
@gerardi2000
4 жыл бұрын
@@StephenTaylorDrums Awesome story
@jonatack7693
4 жыл бұрын
a seriously wonderful story... and a seriously wonderful player
@freecitizen2760
4 жыл бұрын
Roy Haynes ... I saw him once. He was in his 80’s and was like a force of nature. At one point, he brought just a hi-hat to the front of the stage and mesmerized an entire theater full of people with it. I’ll never forget that performance.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Oh he for sure is a force of nature
@freecitizen2760
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Taylor : Just in case somebody checks out this comment, here’s Roy Haynes featured front and centre on Letterman. Nicknamed “Snap Crackle” in the 50’s, he played with many including Coltrane. He’s now 94. Best wishes to him! m.kzitem.info/news/bejne/qX-Jk3l8a2aIZ3o
@farshimelt
4 жыл бұрын
@@freecitizen2760 94 and still doing it & doing it & doing it.
@freecitizen2760
4 жыл бұрын
George Neidorf : Seriously? He’s still playing? I think he’s one of the coolest people on Earth and an unbelievably tasty drummer. He’s known for using a flat-top ride in his setup. That’s an unusual choice. He was amazing!
@farshimelt
4 жыл бұрын
@@freecitizen2760 He IS amazing. I think there's a video of Roy playing at his 90th birthday party gig at Dizzy's Coca Cola. (Not sure of the venue) He's either 93 or 94 this year. Google and see what he's dong now.
@odysseuslaertiades1528
4 жыл бұрын
Influential drummers I missed: - From the early period of jazz drumming: Zutty Singleton and Ray Bauduc. - Sonny Payne, Count Basie's drummer for many years. He had probably more influence on modern big band drumming than Buddy Rich or Louis Bellson with their virtuosic, self-serving manner of playing. - Ed Thigpen, Oscar Peterson's favourite drummer. He was the epitome of tasteful playing in a jazz trio formation and was one of the best brush players of all times.
@FawleyJude
4 жыл бұрын
When Frank Sinatra did some shows with Count Basie in the '60s, he insisted on Sonny Payne being the drummer.
@glennkerr4091
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking time to make this listing! Great job. It was thoughtfully done, and while I knew many of those you discussed, I have some to learn about...and some recordings to explore for those I already knew and loved.
@davidbrown9395
4 жыл бұрын
tears of gratitude. Thank you for sharing your love of pre-fusion jazz . I was getting lonely.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
David Brown 👊🏻
@JeffRandallDrumming
4 жыл бұрын
This was awesome to watch Stephen! You took me back to my days at UNT studying these greats. Definitely gonna go re-listen to some of these albums. Thanks man.
@misfit2022
4 жыл бұрын
One of the great advantages of having a teacher when younger is the broadening of knowledge. I was into rock and punk but once we had exhausted rock rhythms, shuffles etc after about 18 months he said have you ever listened to jazz and I said yawn boring because jazz I had seen and even later sat in on involved a little swing on the cymbal and feathering the bass drum. Then he played me Elvin Jones, wow, and sent me home with transcribed patterns for me to practice and this went on weekly with Philly Joe Jones, Gene Krupa, Joe Morello, where I learned about the link between Bonham and jazz, Billy Cobham, Lenny White and the list goes on and on. 2 rock drummers who play jazz we covered were Steve Smith Journey with Steps Ahead and Phil Collins with Brand X. One very Important lesson I learned was the hi-hat wasn’t just there just to be hit. Now that really opened up my playing and even now if playing rock and punk If I am on the cymbal I still use the hi-hat as I did when learning those jazz patterns as it just holds everything together. I doubt I would have ever listened to jazz if It had not been thrust upon me and I had to work at it and believe me it was work. I even learned 2 of my punk heroes were originally jazz drummers Topper Headon of The Clash and Lucky Lehrer from Circle Jerks. Tony Williams even played on Album with punk band PiL. I therefore decided jazz wasn’t so uncool after all. I have even been to Ronnie Scott’s a number of times to listen rather than play jazz.
@jedfearon
4 жыл бұрын
I study with Jeff Mills in Atlanta. He was thrilled when I told him you brought up his name in this video. You are a great player, teacher and one funny fellow.
@boblevey
4 жыл бұрын
Stan Levey was playing with Bird and Diz at 16, only he and Max at the time could play the super super fast tempos that were demanded by Diz and Bird, this took incredible technique. Max broke it up more than dad but Stan could play with the same intensity. You missed Art Taylor and Shelly Manne also, Shelly was very innovative in the way he used percussive sounds. Otherwise you referenced some of the great ones. P.s. it might be good to think about breaking the list up between the strict swingers and the drummers who bridged the gap then the ones the went forward with the fusion idea. Just a thought. It’s a difficult task to take on.
@fredschneider7475
4 жыл бұрын
Great list, Stephen! My drum teacher Tom McGee was a student of Alan Dawson's. Tom was not famous but an amazing drummer in his own right. Great stories. Dawson's singing along with the melody requirement (or goal at least) amounted to 5-way coordination. One time, Tom demonstrated this concept to me by singing the melody from The Girl from Ipanema while playing a seemingly unrelated complex pattern with all four limbs. It was mind-blowing. I would like to mention two people that aren't really associated with traditional jazz: fusion-master Billy Cobham and British drummer Tony Oxley, who often played in a freer context with people like Derek Bailey and Cecil Taylor.
@LarryNagel
4 жыл бұрын
Lists can be revealing, and what this list reveals to me is that you are very serious about, and deep into, this music. Very well done. My own top-twenty probably wouldn't differ much from this.
@chiefobeef
4 жыл бұрын
Not a drummer, but a fan of music and I had not heard of some of these fantastic musicians, thanks for opening my ears! 👍
@FawleyJude
4 жыл бұрын
These are all pretty much choices I'd have on my list. Jack DeJohnette was my idol when I was learning to play so I copped a lot from his style. He swings hard as hell and he developed a really interesting loosened-up syncopated rock style with Miles that seems to have worked its way into lots of contemporary drumming. If someone wants to hear Jack in a less avant-garde setting, they might try an old Charles Lloyd album, like Forest Flower, or maybe Jack playing with Bill Evans at Montreux. By the way, I noticed he appears in the picture of the Bill Evans trio (along with Eddie Gomez) you show when you're talking about Paul Motian. Billy Higgins doesn't get much mention but his swing feel is irresistable (Dexter Gordon's "Go" is a great example) and he played with Ornette Coleman--lots of stylistic range.
@jmacpherson9292
4 жыл бұрын
Steve Jordan is my biggest influence although there are so many drummers who I love just as much. But it was hearing Steve play, his sound, his groove, listening/reading to his great wisdom in interviews that gave me direction that I never had before and I finally figured out what type of player I wanted to be. But the greatest lesson he ever taught me was not to be afraid to play simple! " Simplicity is not stupidity" as he put it. Having the confidence to play simple and not worry the people watching think you suck because you're not playing a bunch of fancy fills. Knowing when NOT to play, leaving S P A C E in the music.
@jessejayvella
Жыл бұрын
Steve Jordan is the man....
@jeffreyfranco6411
4 жыл бұрын
Stephan, THANK YOU for including Alan Dawson in your lineup. I studied with Alan at his home from 1974-1981. During that time, Steve Smith, Vinny Coliuta, Terri Lynne Carrington, John Ramsay were in attendance as well. I know without asking, that all of the aforementioned will agree that Alan was an absolute bonifide genius. He was not only a monster, but he could definitively tell you exactly how to get there. He was a caring but stern taskmaster. A loving and dignified gentleman. Playing your lesson for Alan was like reciting the Bible for Jesus and then waiting for a critique. I love him as all his students do. With the addition of his teaching ability coupled with his absolutely monsterous capability as a player, he may well be the best of us all. Thanks again Steve, for your inclusion of this icon, who may not be known by many, but for those of us he chose to teach and accept into his home, became our "secret weapon" of knowledge and a life long devotee to his method, his philosophy, and his life of humble dignity. Thanks....
@4980cbs
4 жыл бұрын
Art Blakey, Max Roach and Elvin Jones, the Holy Trinity of drums playing.
@thehammer5200
4 жыл бұрын
Cristino Bermudez Salcines Alan Dawson 👀
@damanofmen1958
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Stephen. Very informative and a must watch for all drummers. Always love your contributions to the world of drums and the like. Thank you, again. Most Sincerely, Randy C.
@Bobby007D
4 жыл бұрын
I loved this video. I was glued to my TV screen the whole time. Drummers never get enough credit ! Thanks for mentioning two of my homies , Johnny V. & Ellis M.
@tomasnorberg2703
4 жыл бұрын
Great list! I was already familiar with the drummers listed, but your deep knowledge made me learn something new about every single player! Thanks a bunch!
@themauiwaui
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a mil for all the great album recommendations 🤘 Looking forward to other videos in this series !!
@JohnMFlores
4 жыл бұрын
Loved this. Had the pleasure of seeing many of these guys play in New York City in the 90s. Many of them were older by then, but I still fell in love with the complexity and power of good jazz drumming.
@slimofpgh
4 жыл бұрын
I think I get what you are going for in this video and why you don't include guys like Gadd, Cobham, Colaiuta, etc. They can "spang-a-lang" like nobody's business but that's not their thing. So I might commend at least an honorable mention to Jeff Hamilton and Peter Erskine; I think they fall under your umbrella. The one glaring omission for me is Louie Bellson. Louie was, of course, a brilliant player - an imaginative soloist (perhaps even more clever than Buddy) and a great technician. His use of double bass was a true bridge between genres. He was also a warm and caring person and a dedicated educator. Thanks, Stephen, for a provocative and informative video.
@hawkrider88
6 ай бұрын
Hamilton and Erskine and great for sure...both big faves of mine. However, they kind of fall between the Bop drummers of the 60s and early 70s and the later Jazz Rock guys like Gadd, Cobham and Colaiuta.
@tdrum21
4 жыл бұрын
Great feature! Look forward to more of these. Is it possible to make a list of players/ recommended recordings in the future? That’d be very helpful if possible...
@adrianpeek6304
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this much-needed video M8! You did an excellent job of choosing 20 of the many 100s of drummers deserving to be on any "greatest" list. Much good and relevant info always on your channel. Bravo!
@otterinbham9641
4 жыл бұрын
Man, this is great work. Thanks for giving me a lot of context to these guys and where they stood. Plus giving the albums to check out is huge.
@fredlittle8127
4 жыл бұрын
Great list! Of course the list could go on and on. I really like what Jeff Hamilton brings to the table, especially as it pertains to trio/quartet and vocal accompaniment.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Fred Little oh, this was a really hard list to narrow down
@MrACMARSHALL
4 жыл бұрын
really great piece man ,,, really educational ...especially the connection between how ludwig and zidjian developed their companies through these specific jazz drummers,
@groove7
4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this video and the background information you provided. I hope you could do something similar for funk drummers and reggae drummers.
@rejimathewphdlcswreat-expr5328
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this deeply thoughtful, passionate review. And for making iconic, complex Jazz History so accessible.
@StephenTaylorDrums
10 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed!
@markhiggins8315
4 жыл бұрын
Billy Higgins. Just love his musicality. Class, as horn player, I can't imagine anyone I'd rather have on kit. His work with Cedar Walton and Sam Jones is just beautiful.
@blairhelsing630
4 жыл бұрын
Very well made content and choice of visual examples of performances. I enjoyed reading the comments too. We all have been blessed for 100+ years with giants on this instrument.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend
@paullennox2404
4 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! great video, very insightful and lots of recommended listening; thanks! I love Elvin on The Real McCoy album, absolutely raw!
@IdoMiron
4 жыл бұрын
this list was great! I now study a few jazz drummers and the albums you gave were great to listen to. would love to see art taylor here but it was great either way. thank you!
@bennoschlachter368
4 жыл бұрын
great video again Stephen. love your passion and enthusiasm. so many great drummers and eventhough I know something about all the names you listed I couldn't but watch about them again in your video. fantastic stuff. .....and uhhh, Brian Blade. Love his musicality. top on my wish list to see live for some time.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Benno Schlachter oh for sure. I’m in the same boat. Want to see him live for sure. I’ve seen one of his teachers, vidakovich, live many times. Killer players
@jerryburdick8051
4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome list, made even better by its presentation. Thank you! I always love gaining insight into inspirations, and I now feel like I'm grasping your playing better. I particularly love how you mentioned what these players do in an ensemble context. (Elvin Jones and Jack DeJohnette....whew!) Totally digging that 20 is such a limiting number, I'd love to get your take on Jeff Watts and the passion behind his innovation. Thank you again...this was 40 minutes incredibly well spent.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jerry. Jeff Watts...man, I went through a huge phase with him. Specifically his albums Bar Talk and Citizen Tain. I discovered them during my last couple of years in college and was just blown away by his style. Still am.
@davidmarshall6802
4 жыл бұрын
That was a fantastic overview Stephen, very entertaining too! Love your passion for the history of drumming. Well done.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
David Marshall thanks so much David. Glad you dig my friend
@johnrobinson8323
4 жыл бұрын
Great list. Had the pleasure of seeing Max Roach,Art Blakey,Buddy Rich, and Roy Haynes live. All life changing performances for sure.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
John Robinson so jealous
@chrisegbertky
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this well organized list of jazz drummers and exactly why they are the greats!
@Steve-cn3nj
4 жыл бұрын
other Jazz drummers not on your list: Art Taylor, Louis Hayes, Eddie Blackwell and Dannie Richmond
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Steve all fantastic
@nukeystik
4 жыл бұрын
Actually I’m surprised Chico Hamilton, Peter Erskine, Billy Cobham, Herlin Riley, Vernel Fournier or Mickey Roker weren’t mentioned. Certainly not all but I saw places where any one of these guys could’ve replaced some of your guys. Cobham may seem a bit of a stretch but a significant part of his early career was spent not just playing straight ahead jazz but Latin Jazz w/Fania All Stars as well. I’d say he’s maybe 2nd only to Tony Williams in making the jump from straight ahead to fusion. Maybe more successful as well?
@ToddHarroldMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Great job, and excellent that you included Alan Dawson and talked about John Vidacovich. I was surprised, though, that Billy Cobham and Jeff Watts weren't on the list. Billy changed the sound of jazz drums and Tain took comping to another level altogether.
@andymelendez9757
4 жыл бұрын
Great list! I would add Larance Marable only because of his playing with Quartet West w Charlie Haden. Heard them live and Larance who was up in years at that time played the most musical and lyrical solo I've ever heard. It made me cry.....
@trommelprof
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. All the musicians mentioned in the comments arguably could have been included as important contributors to our art. Nonetheless, in my view, you did a very good job dealing with the impossible task of priortizing the choices to 20 drummers. Might you make a part 2 list? As a youngster living in Chicago, I was exposed to first class jazz performers: Miles Davis, Art Blakely and the Jazz Messengers, Thelonious Monk, Ira Sullivan, Eddie Harris, Lambert, Hendricks and Ross, Gary Burton and dozens more. At the time, Chicago had a 10:00pm curfew the police liked to enforce. Being 14 years old, I persuaded my mother to accompany me to various jazz venues so I could experience these musicians talent-sometimes until 2:00am! Here is a selected list of drummers I heard live; some I also chatted with at Franks Drum Shop. • Louie Belson (great player and a mensch) • Art Blakey (His plane arrived late. To make up to the audience, Blakey had the Messengers play a 1-1/2 hour set.) • Wilbur Campbell • Chico Hamilton • Louis Hayes • Roy Haynes • Elvin Jones • Harold Jones (A big musical talent. Harold was my teacher during my high school years. He was a sophomore in college. I attended Harold's senior recital in which he played mallets, multi-percussion and drum set. He encouraged me to do the same.) • Philly Joe Jones • Joe Morello • Paul Motian • Buddy Rich • Ed Thigpen with Ella Fitzgerald • Tony Williams
@christopheralmeida7562
4 жыл бұрын
That list was great and informative, with some unexpected players. I’m proud to be part of the Drumming Community.
@klausrain111
4 жыл бұрын
When I was in 12th grade, in 64-65, I lived in Paris for six months because my dad's job took the family over there. Few years before that my dad got me into Miles and Coltrane. So, sometime around November 64 I went to the Blue Note to see Booker Ervin, and Kenny Clark was the drummer. Maybe 30 people in the club, full of cigarette smoke, it was legal for us to drink beer, and at that age (17), two beers was quite enough. We sat right up near Kenny's drum set and were mesmerized by his playing, as well as his kind personality as he smiled and winked at us throughout the set. My parents were spending a lot of time out with their friends, and they never knew what the hell I was up to, nor did they care. Great memory for me. As soon as I saw the title of this video, I knew Kenny would be in it. Thanks!
@YourBestEnglish
4 жыл бұрын
Good Job... As a life-long itinerant drummer, and jazz fan, I've had the honor of meeting a few on the list: Jimmy Cobb, Billy Higgins, Elvin Jones (actually played in the same event, Kool Jazz Fest), and Jack Dejohnette (during his residency at the Cornish Institute in Seattle).
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
I’m a little jealous lol
@ikigomez1407
4 жыл бұрын
Simon Phillips is my role model! My favorite drummer. Elvin Jones, Jack DeJohnette, Tony Williams and Paul Motian, together with Mr. Simon, they are such a influence for me! I LOVE THEM ALL!
@alexiserni1152
3 жыл бұрын
I agree Simon is my fave drummer as well, but he doesn't fit the category Jazz Drummers :)
@ikigomez1407
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexiserni1152 Yes and no. I suggest you to listen to "Vantage Point" of Simon with the pianist Jeff Babko.
@alexiserni1152
3 жыл бұрын
@@ikigomez1407 I know that Simon definitively know to and played any styles during his long career, as many rock drummers gave jazz bases as well, but with his main playlist (Toto, Judas Priest, Satriani, Michael Schenker, Jon Anderson, Jon Lord, Mike Oldfield, Nik Kershaw, Lukather, Rutherford, Madness, Townshend, Asia, Jeff Beck, Gary Moore ...) he definitively is a Rock Drummer and not considered a true Jazz Drummer :)
@williamgranville6732
4 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic video. People will agree and people will disagree with some of your choices but no one can argue the content of this video. I love how you bring the history into it, great work and look forward to other videos in this series.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
William Granville thanks William!
@brichfan
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Great list. You mentioned Art Blakey’s shuffle on Moanin’. So I would add Mel Lewis and Jeff Hamilton. Talk about shuffle.
@donmundt3573
4 жыл бұрын
Lewis and Hamilton are definitely in my top 20.
@farshimelt
4 жыл бұрын
They were after the fact. This video is looking at roots.
@garysalt2718
4 жыл бұрын
I agree totally. Jeff Hamilton is an awesome drummer.
@Dogdrum
4 жыл бұрын
Mel Lewis! World class shuffle groove he had.
@conradmason87
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect Steve...Elvin Jones is my inspiration... thanks for this excellent compilation. Have a cool Yule and 2020 vision in 2020👍🥁
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Conrad Mason Elvin was THE MAN
@soccerringettedad
4 жыл бұрын
Great jazz history lesson for the rock devotees! A few names on this list I've never heard of and now will check out. Saw Buddy Rich live once - unbelievable!
@markhiggins8315
4 жыл бұрын
Roy Haynes, such a long and distinguished career. From working with Charlie Parker to modern greats. Fabulous drummer.
@craigbrowning9448
4 жыл бұрын
Max Roach had a 5/4 Composition "In the Can" before Take 5, but Mercury wouldn't release it.
@rogerwelsh2335
4 жыл бұрын
Your list is perfect. There is always debate, but you wisely set a clear frame work for your choices. I really think you defined the criteria for the GOAT arguments that are so prevalent in everything from sports to music and hell even cooking. Great job
@brunocazaban-mazerolles5504
4 жыл бұрын
Louis Bellson, Sonny Greer, Rufus Jones, Chico Hamilton, Sonny Payne, and so many more...
@fepatton
4 жыл бұрын
Great list! Glad to see Alan Dawson and Paul Motian getting some love. The first album that really turned me on to Philly Joe Jones was Miles Davis' "Porgy and Bess", especially the cut "Gone, Gone, Gone". I'll give another vote for Louie Bellson. I'm lucky enough to have seen both Buddy and Louie live many times. Buddy was my go-to "greatest" for a long time, followed closely by Joe Morello. (I wore out my dad's copy of Time Out.) Seeing Louie live was a revelation, though. Even better in person than on recordings. Also lucky enough to attend a drum clinic with him, and he is also a great educator, not to mention a composer in his own right. Out of today's jazz drummers, I'd like to give a shout-out to Lewis Nash. Check out "Bud Shank Meets the Rhythm Section". :-) Cheers!
@ryebread7224
3 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome list and appreciate the information on all 20 of these drummers! I know many of them by name, but didn’t know that much about most of them. Now I do!
@richardstandish2053
4 жыл бұрын
No argument with the list of 'most influencial' jazz drummers. But I really want to THANK YOU Stephen for the time and research into putting this together. Most inspiring and motivating presentation.
@stalliec
4 жыл бұрын
Outstanding list and commentary. I'm going to share this with my students. I always shy away from the "lists" but this is professionally done, a real education for young drummers wanting to play jazz. I like your criteria: they had to make a contribution. Thank you. Also make sure you aspiring jazz drummers know who Clarence Penn is and never miss an opportunity to see him live - innovative, musical, intensity at pianissimo, color and texture: there's a reason he's in such top demand.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
I hope it is if use with your students. That’s one of the reasons I wanted to start this series. More to come
@mrfudd13
4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on an excellent survey of Jazz drummers, valuable for the album references we can all check out! I spoke to Joe Morello on break, back when Brubeck's group was still playing relatively smaller venues (Roundtowner Motels). He told me he wanted to be a classical symphony percussionist, but his eyesight was too poor to read charts. Would have liked to see Louis Bellson in there, Skin Deep was a big influence on me.
@rogerjerabek9574
4 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Billy Higgins and Ben Riley. Although not quite on the same level as the previous two, I really dig some of Frankie Dunlop's recordings with Monk. "Monk in France" is a good one.
@111AdamP
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Stephen. Im relatively new to the drums and admittedly pretty ignorant when it comes to jazz - I've been thinking more about exploring it lately for inspiration and just to explore the genre in general, so this is pretty timely for me. Appreciate you man, thanks for all you do.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
111AdamP I would suggest just picking a couple of albums and spending some time listening. That’s what I did. I let that lead me where it would instead of just trying to “learn jazz drumming”.
@VinylRundown
4 жыл бұрын
Roy Haynes still alive still playing in his 90s. (You implied he might be gone with past tense). Love the vid. I just did a tribute vid to Art Blakey.
@PalJoey-on1yi
4 жыл бұрын
Gene Krupa - Best hard, musical sounding driver of big bands. Buddy Rich - Speed, finesse, solos Chico Hamilton - Webs of "color" from a drum set Joe Morello - cymbal work
@jauconsuaj
4 жыл бұрын
Tony has all that qualities
@anthonysonnheim4182
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!🥁👏
@canturgan
4 жыл бұрын
Omar Hakim, Harvey Mason, Lenny White, Steve Gadd, Jeff Porcaro, Buddy Rich, Louie Belson, Chester Thompson, Fred Astaire (no, I mean it).
@TheAaustin1984
4 жыл бұрын
Great list, I'm not sure of this will get lost in the mix but Shelley Manne was one of the greats and innovative drummers i discovered and recorded so many of the greats like Bill Evans, Andre Previn, Sommy Rollins, Gerry Milligan as well as his own band Shelley Manne and his Men. While also playing on pop/tv classics at the time like Peter Gunn and Hawaii 5 O
@theghostdog3498
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid bro!
@bacobill
4 жыл бұрын
Spot on Stephen.. More and more the history of drumming will be essential learning.. This is a great set of choices for that purpose.. My personal top of the list.. Dave Tough.
@492bgp
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would like to add Jeff Hamilton, Eric Harland, Mel Lewis and Peter Erskine. We drummers stand on the shoulders of so many giants!
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Oh for sure! Every one of them were on my short list. Should have made it top 50 lol
@492bgp
4 жыл бұрын
@@StephenTaylorDrums At least your list is pretty comprehensive and it gets us thinking and talking about other greats. This video definitely got me listening to some old recordings too! Greetings from Victoria, Canada Stephen. Keep up your great content
@Drummer_of_Solace
4 жыл бұрын
Top respect for including Alan Dawson on a list of 'players'. It is very challenging to find a more beautiful and evolved musician on the instrument. Thank you for bringing attention to him.
@kirk9853
4 жыл бұрын
Great list and tough one to pick. Most have influenced my playing and I love just listening to all of them playing. My teacher was a Tony Williams fan. I think a lot of my playing still has his influence. Great vid and I am enjoying all your others also.
@slickrockcreek1
4 жыл бұрын
I like this approach! I detest the "greatest" concept so many people use that treats art like a sporting competition. I usually watch that kind of thing just to veg when I'm tired at the end of my day and don't take it seriously - but I really learned from this. Talking about innovations and influence in a subject you've studied deeply is interesting and useful, and you're not only knowledgable but also a great teacher. Thanks for this.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
You bet, glad you dig my friend
@robtronik
4 жыл бұрын
this is so awesome. Thank you for doing this. So much to dig into that I had no idea about musically. I can't like this video enough!
@ShinJeeseob
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! I'd love to listen all the recommended albums.
@michaelneedleman3642
4 жыл бұрын
Great list. On a personal note, I never get over Lenny White's playing on Return To Forever's "Vulcan Worlds" from "Where Have I Known You Before." Perfection, I tell yas.
@russleonardi786
4 жыл бұрын
Great job on the choices Stephen, especially from a historical perspective...the only shocking omission from your list, is my very first drumming hero and influence, the late, great Louie Bellson....to me talent wise, he was everything Buddy Rich was, and everything Buddy Rich wasn’t, not to mention he was the father of double bass playing. I am more of a Fusion player than a traditional Jazz player, and my personal influences and hero’s are, Billy Cobham, Tony Williams ( who I was fortunate enough to study with), Narada Michael Walden, Alphonse Mouzon, and Lenny White....love your videos!!!
@catthehank
4 жыл бұрын
I love this list Stephen! Great job. An honorable mention needs to go to Shelly Manne.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
For sure...Shelly was on the original list that I had to narrow down.
@1maggotbrain
4 жыл бұрын
Dude , this was a tough job, I love it
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
It was actually tougher than I thought it would be. I spent WAY more time researching and narrowing this list down than I thought I would.
@mikehawk9461
4 жыл бұрын
When you really look at creativity, style and individualism, Elvin Jones is the greatest.
@SUREBUDDD
2 жыл бұрын
Actual fuckin truth
@haseem7059
2 жыл бұрын
Then, Steve Gard, Heavy Mason
@haseem7059
2 жыл бұрын
Roy hynes is good too
@Dumdrum
4 жыл бұрын
Great video, and perfection on the list you've created. You are very knowledgeable for such a young guy :) I would have expected to hear Louie Bellson mentioned at some point. Adding Antonio was what impressed me the most. He is awesome. I got to meet him in Boston in October. As you might think, he is super nice and personable.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Dumdrum Thank you my friend. Nelson was on the short list. I just couldn’t include them all though. What a killer player.
@haseem7059
2 жыл бұрын
Baby Dood is great but he made mistake not backuping many great drivers
@debralynnpaxton5238
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video of the pioneers ! Thank you, Stephen :D
@bobnotargiacomo8674
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent list! My personal favorite jazz drummer is Jeff Hamilton. His sensitivity in a trio setting is incredible. His drive in a big band isn't too bad either :)
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
He’s so great
@AndalusianIrish
3 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant, especially the newer guy. Looking forward to checking them out. A rock drummer who I think displays jazz influences especially in his cymbal playing but isn't often mentioned is Ian Paice of Deep Purple. I'd have made it 25 to include Billy Cobham, Art Taylor, Shelly Manne, Chico Hamilton and Idris Muhammad.
@scottdrebus
3 жыл бұрын
Max Roach was hugely influential on my playing. He would take just the snare drum, or just the high hat, and explore every possible sound it could make. That opened up so many ideas for me. One drummer I'm surprised didn't make the list, one of my favorites of all time, the pioneer of double bass drum - Louie Bellson.
@j.p.wasicko6668
4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful presentation. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
You bet
@ΙωαννηςΛουκαςΔημοπουλος
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video .My favorite of all is Jack DeJohnette also I would like to see from you a lesson about (jazz) drum solos !!!! :)
@ophirb25
4 жыл бұрын
Was wondering if Billie Higgins was on the list and was very happy to find him. I only saw him once in Israel, and it was enough to know. And his smile all the time he was playing was so pleasures to see.....
@royjones3099
4 жыл бұрын
Keep up videos coming!!!great information film clips...audio bits!!
@michael_eff
4 жыл бұрын
thank you for this video, and for what you (italics) are doing for drumming today ... much love!
@joysonleons9902
4 жыл бұрын
This is pure knowledge, thank you
@RSMGsndchannel
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! for Chick Webb, Buddy also called chick the Total experience on drums He was the first drummer to drum with emotion 4 foot1inch and described as explosive, and was sickly for most of his life. The Daddy!
@erichanson3356
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I think the biggest two omissions on this list are Bill Stewart for his huge impact on modern jazz and Ed Thigpen for his influence on brush playing. Other than that I think you nailed this list.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Eric Hanson yea, Bill Stewart was on my shortlist. I love that mans playing. Ed’s brushes, as you pointed out, we’re insane. I just had to cut it off somewhere lol
@DolkkarToyznstuff
4 жыл бұрын
Well done, such a plethora of great players and innovators. I can't wait to see what the rest of this series brings.
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Q's Discussions thanks!
@AdamSmith-wq2cj
4 жыл бұрын
I love this list. I played with a jazz band some years ago, I was coming from some knowledge of swing and Kenny Ball ‘pop jazz’ from the sixties. I was wrong! Completely different style going back to 1920s/30s- ‘Dr Jazz’ style. Very enjoyable
@Daionzrip
4 жыл бұрын
Really good stuff Stephen, and good to see such a huge number of responses. Dig all of it! (dang that Higgins bit sounded good for a YT clip). Do you think a future video might cover some percussionists that are currently pushing things along like Ches Smith, Charles Hayward, Lucas Niggli, Zach Hill, Greg Fox and John Hollenbeck?
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you dig! I’ll put that idea on the list and see what I can do
@garyschoolcraft2533
4 жыл бұрын
Great list! I would have added Louie Bellson and Billy Cobham.
@DZNTZ
4 жыл бұрын
So happy that you had Morello and Blakey in there! 2 of my favorites for sure. On an etymological note: infamous and notorious both have a negative connotation. Somewhat interchangeable, they both mean famous for something bad.
@patrickbergin356
4 жыл бұрын
The greatest drummer of all time (not my opinion, Duke Ellington's) was Louie Bellson. Louie could not only play anything Buddy Rich could play, he could chart it then play it again off the chart. He was an accomplished composer having written jazz, jazz/rock/fusion, orchestral suites, symphonic works and a ballet. Nobody else comes close
@sencondfrequency
2 жыл бұрын
And inventor and precursor of the double bass drum!
@FBGOODIE
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this really enthralling, instructive and veery well done video, and beside your evident knowledge of the matter the little touches of humor can only improve the enjoyment...
@StephenTaylorDrums
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you dig!
@farshimelt
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen, you got it right. Another Billy Higgins recording, before he changed his cymbal feel, is Ornette Coleman's, Change Of The Century.
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