You da man! I pulled out all the leads and tested the fans with a wire to the battery. They worked. I then checked the ground wire and it was fully clipped in, but loose inside. After cleaning and gentle reconnection, the fans came to life! MWA HA HA HA HA!!!!! NO MONEY FOR YOU, KIA SPARE PARTS SHOP!!!!!!
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! So great to hear!
@phoenix527freeman
3 жыл бұрын
Where is the ground? I found the Relay switching battery to the module, replaced it, replaced the controller, both fans work directly off 12 volt.
@ramonandamy0686
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Kia Sedona, and I think this video hit the nail on the head again thank you
@mywickedness
6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2007 Sedona and this happened to me. I replaced the fan module, and it was not the problem. I did find that the bottom connector you talk about was bad. It overheated and was corroded. I cleaned up the ends with a wire brush, and placed some electronic paste on it. I then crimped the fitting to make it tighter. I also took the relay off, and replaced it, ($25 at the dealer). Once everything was on, i reset the code and drove around. It has now been 2 years with no over heating.
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
mywickedness thanks for sharing! That is going to save someone a lot of headache & money while repairing theirs. They do not give away those fan modules..
@davidsdietz
6 жыл бұрын
Looking for a part number for the relay. Can you share?
@lancecluster
6 жыл бұрын
awesome, my "kia dealer" keeps replacing the fan control module which fixes the issue for a few weeks.
@josmalorozco9962
5 жыл бұрын
What was a problem? I have this truble right now
@carsonwhitehead1463
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the relay. The book says it's in the engine fuse box. I had seen the relay but was not sure until i saw your video. My failure is identical to yours except no problems with the passenger fan motor. Also, with everything on and working well on the ac, I am getting no voltage out of the module outputs to the fans. I will check the ground and test the relay in the morning.
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
I am more than happy to help!!
@HJHoldenPaul
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video mate. You showed me all the component locations. I was lucky, the relay contacts had waxy grease on them causing high resistance. Cleaned up and both fans now working.
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
Paul Cragg my pleasure! I'm glad you were able to get off the easy way!
@linda07030
3 жыл бұрын
Hey what did you use to clean the guey parts? Im having same issue
@Boo7474
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks .... it was very helpful
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@ramonandamy0686
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, I am having the same issues just replaced the thermostat and cooling sensor but I think it was a waste of time has to be that relay or fan control module
@dma654
5 жыл бұрын
I just got one of those Van's. What's your opinion of them? Pretty solid good van? It reminds me of an expensive Toyota Van. Mines overheating a bit though. Are the KIA's on Toyota's level?
@thejoki04
5 жыл бұрын
I loved the van other than this minor issue which was solved pretty quickly. It was always a strong runner & had a lot of power. I pulled a 20’ car hauler trailer with mine over 700 miles(empty of course).
@embededfabrication4482
11 ай бұрын
the fan control modules go on these things too, probably becase of the bad ground. mine went a few months after fixing this bad ground issue. Be really careful taking off the ground wire connector, it's easily broken, mine broke, the one at the wrecking yard was broke too. i found a controller on amazon for 90 bucks that seems to be working ok, no luck with $20 one i got at pick n pull.
@thejoki04
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@vandy8510
11 ай бұрын
Man this prolly helped me I haven’t tried anything as I just watched but my ground burns the connection in the module think I need to check the relay cuz I tested the amps in one of the fans and the ground and it doesn’t seem it’s pulling too much amps still tryna figure it out
@wilsonalavarez8793
4 жыл бұрын
on my case i had the same issue but is the bottom plug that the cable has a the den metal inside any idea what that relay number? i have a kia sedona 2012
@thejoki04
4 жыл бұрын
See the comment from Neil Tripoli, he provided a part number that may match
@michaellogeman1571
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@jaywillems3452
6 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 with neither radiator fan nor AC compressor fan coming on. Shop recommends replacing both fans, coolant temp sensor, and fan relay (controller). I’m thinking to try the relay first- is the compressor fan tied into the same relay? If so, I could see why neither fan works if the relay is bad.
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if it controls both, but it’s a cheap enough fix to try and see! You could try hard wire fan controller directly from battery to see if that fixes fans, that would tell you if the controller is bad.
@Robert-lr3wr
5 жыл бұрын
Its probably the ground on my 09 Sedona the ground comes loose every few months
@phoenix527freeman
3 жыл бұрын
Did you have any luck, this is the exact problem I am having. AC compressor and these fans stopped same time, fans good direct, checked fuses, replaced this relay and controller.
@phoenix527freeman
3 жыл бұрын
Robert 123 Where is the actual ground
@Integrity-Speaks
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Thanks alot for this video . Do this 2006 kia has dual fans?
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@michaelcatalano8672
5 жыл бұрын
Any suggestion on fixing the ground wire as the clip broke (extremely frail ) having similar issue ? can i buy just the clip to go over the ground wire ? what are my options?
@thejoki04
5 жыл бұрын
I would look inside the clip to see if the metal pieces are still in there. If they are, I would put them on and electrical tape it to secure it. You could also cut the wire & hard wire an alligator clip on, then tape it.
@josmalorozco9962
5 жыл бұрын
So, the problems is the ground cable!
@thejoki04
5 жыл бұрын
I think so!!
@josmalorozco9962
5 жыл бұрын
THANKS I have that problem right now
@boricayey1098
3 жыл бұрын
When does both fan supposed to start? I have a sedona 2010 and i've noticed that they dont start running until my air conditioning is on. Its it supposed to be like that? Also on my kia sportage 2019 is the same way.
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
They will kick on when the temperature of your engine gets too hot & calls for it.
@alexchan3861
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, the mechanic said the module was bad but when I checked the ground plug it was corroded and not even plugged in. I'll need to replace that or connect with alligator clips. I am having trouble disconnecting the plug above the ground - do you have any tips on how to do that?
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly it was a normal plug that you press on the back of to disengage the plastic clip, then pull backwards on it.
@alexchan3861
2 жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 thanks so much, it was stuck so that's why just pressing down on the clip wasn't working which is why I was wondering if there was something else I had to do. I had to use a screwdriver to help lever the plug out after depressing the clip.
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@michaelbrotzman8054
4 жыл бұрын
when you say relay you talking about the ac control relay?
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I did not get the notification of your comment. My relay was mounted to the front right by the radiator. It had a rubber boot over the top protecting it & was mounted on a plastic tab.
@embededfabrication4482
2 жыл бұрын
check under the cap of the diagnostic dongle hanging in there, I found tons of green goblin shorting it out, it was hanging upside down and the cap was collecting water I think. what was that relay called? no one is listing a fan control module power relay on their websites
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s just a generic relay. I would take it off & bring it with you parts store & find a match.
@embededfabrication4482
2 жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 I bet the slow fan motor (bad bearing) causes the control module to burn out, good call on changing it too, bad ground will too. thanks for making the video, 100 kar karma points for you! .....follow up.... it was just the bad ground on the bottom plug, I took it off cleaned the contacts and threw some dialectric in there and it works like a champ.
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck!!
@bck004
7 жыл бұрын
so was it the relay or the module?
@thejoki04
7 жыл бұрын
John Doe 95% sure it was the module because the driver's side fan was still blowing great before we replaced either. If it was the relay, I don't think either would've worked.
@phillipyounkins7432
Жыл бұрын
Did you have problems starting it when it for hot¿
@thejoki04
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@pulsatuss
5 жыл бұрын
RELAY PN IS 95210-4D000. SHORT CORD POWER WIRE TO CONTROLLER IS WRK4K-MA63. BETTER TO REPLACE THE SHORT CORD TO THE CONTROLLER THAN TO HALFASS IT WITH ELECTRICAL PASTE AND A CRIMP JOB.
@thejoki04
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the addition!
@WilliamMiller-bk2eo
4 жыл бұрын
the lower connection is not ground. It's 12VDC and draws a lot of current (powers both fans). Measuring 12V at the connector does not mean it working (fooled me for days). If the connector cannot pass enough current, the fans won't run. Clean it well and check any upstream splices.
@phoenix527freeman
3 жыл бұрын
I have 12v on 3 of the 4 terminals of the relay when plugged in, a new fan controller, and I verified both fans work when direct powered. Still looking for the actual ground
@yoelyancypompa-ramon3844
6 жыл бұрын
HELLO GOT SAME ISSUE. WHAT IS THE PART NUMBER OF THE FAN RELAY ON VIDEO 1.24 NOT THE RUBBER COVER WHERE RELAY IS INSERTED , THE NUMBER ON ACTUAL RELAY /MINE IS SO FADED I CANT SEE NUMBER
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
Genuine Hyundai 95210-4D000 Power Relay Assembly 95% sure this is what you’re looking for. This is the number that is on mine.
@yoelyancypompa-ramon3844
6 жыл бұрын
mine says 95210-4D000 ON RUBBER COVER and the relay inside is kg8jr-72r.
@yoelyancypompa-ramon3844
6 жыл бұрын
CAN'T FIND ON ANY AUTO PARTS LOCAL OR EBAY BUT FOUND ON KIA PARTS TODAY.
@yoelyancypompa-ramon3844
6 жыл бұрын
THANK U
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
Glad you were able to figure it out!
@chebrets
Жыл бұрын
guys, how to replace lower radiator hose?
@zorankafadar5133
5 жыл бұрын
What change and how to change ????
@thejoki04
5 жыл бұрын
Cooling fan module on the back of the radiator
@michaelbrotzman8054
4 жыл бұрын
were is the relay located?
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
Mine was attached to a bracket that attaches to the ride side of the radiator.
@stam9241
7 жыл бұрын
Same problem here. Changed the control module. It was good for 2 weeks and same failure came back.....I'm frustrated
@thejoki04
7 жыл бұрын
Mo Tam I've heard that a poor fan motor on either side can cause the module to go bad also. I would double-check the fan speeds on both sides when they startup to see if one seems to start slower, or spin slower than the other. Did you check the relay for the module? It could be that also.
@stam9241
7 жыл бұрын
thejoki04. Relay is definitely good. Did a code reset and P0480 hasn't come back after a few hours of driving. Fans are running now. will check fan speed. thanks
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
S Tam see the latest comment in this video, another guy found out that the ground could’ve been his issue.
@josmalorozco9962
5 жыл бұрын
Need Ground! I fixed my whit just $5 I put 3 cable of ground directly from battery. 3 spots 1- screw in cover valve 2- trotter admission and 3- body car. That better for any cars.
@aussiedashcam4442
2 жыл бұрын
HI EVERYONE i HAVE 2007 KIA GRAND CARNIVAL RECENTLY RADIATOR FANS STOPPED WORKING AFTER THERMOSTAT WAS STUCK CLOSED I HAVE REMOVED THERMOSTAT , CHANGED COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR. I HAVE REPLACED FAN CONTROLLER UNIT AND ONE OF RELAY AS WELL IF I UNPLUG COOLANT TEMP SENSOR THEN FANS WILL COME ON. BUT WITH SENSOR PLUGGED NO FANS EVEN IF I TURN AIRCON ON IS IT LIKELY ANY OTHER SENSOR ???
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure the car gets up to temperature when testing the new coolant temp sensor, they will not kick on until the engine is hot. If the car is warm & fans not kicking on with coolant temp sensor, you could’ve gotten a bad sensor.
@aussiedashcam4442
2 жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 tried it , it overheats when sensor plugged in and fans don’t kick on
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
I would try a new sensor if I haven’t
@aussiedashcam4442
2 жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 coolant temp sensor replaced as well , do you think of any other sensors ?
@thejoki04
2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, I can’t think of any.
@33392.
3 жыл бұрын
When does the fan go on ?
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
I forget the exact temp, but If your temp gauge is a little over half it should kick in.
@RBG-tr9ce
7 жыл бұрын
I recommend you clean the engine and change the air filter!
@emnauelcruz8739
7 жыл бұрын
RBG0979 thank you for the video You are good
@thejoki04
7 жыл бұрын
RBG0979 I changed the air filter, the engine could definitely use a good cleaning, thank you!
@samfisher9413
Жыл бұрын
How do you know if it's a hose or coolant fan or what? My issue with this crap is that I literally just don't know how to diagnose the issues!
@thejoki04
Жыл бұрын
I always start with the “simple” things first, & rule things out by process of elimination. 1. check for coolant - if full u know hoses are prob good, otherwise there’d be a leak that you’d notice. 2. Try to think of how your vehicle acts normally- while it’s running sitting in the driveway, you normally hear the fans kick on once it starts getting warm to help cool the motor- this is what I noticed on the van, that I could not hear the fans kick on as it got hot. This told me there was a fan issue, or a thermostat issue because thermostat plays a big part.
@samfisher9413
Жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 well I just discovered my cooling fans are not running. Also we are leaking antifreeze. Near the bottom I think. We are actually actively working on it today.
@thejoki04
Жыл бұрын
That sucks. Squeeze hoses to see if it leaks out anywhere. This site should help: www.700r4transmissionhq.com/kia-sedona-radiator-leak/
@samfisher9413
Жыл бұрын
@@thejoki04 Awesome! Thank you! Edit: Dude. This sight is EXACTLY what i needed. Thanks again.
@francestinemitchell3188
3 жыл бұрын
Sitting still makes it over heat control module
@33392.
3 жыл бұрын
In the red? Mu siater has same one
@thejoki04
3 жыл бұрын
It should be before it gets to red
@davidsdietz
6 жыл бұрын
Looking for a part number for the relay. Mine is a 4 terminal relay. Not sure if it's a Type A (normally open) or Type B (normally closed) relay. Anyone know? ***UPDATE*** Here’s the relay: Ehdis Car Relay 4 Pin 12v 40amp Spst Model No.: JD2912-1H-12VDC 40A 14VDC, Auto Switches & Starters, 2 Pack www.amazon.com/dp/B01J53IH5M/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-csjBbCJB2BKN
@thejoki04
6 жыл бұрын
It’s proven tough to find a part number, but I believe it’s normally closed until it gets the signal. I’d say just hit your parts store & plug & play with a new one.
@horacestumblingbear275
Жыл бұрын
I see everything but a replacement and install of thermostat, in a 2006 Kia Sedona
@thejoki04
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen my other video showing how to replace it? kzitem.info/news/bejne/zISknohpnaiehKw
@horacestumblingbear1112
2 жыл бұрын
My 2006 sedona was pinging during this time.
@davidmanheim266
Жыл бұрын
dont get a new module you probably need a connector my melted and i got one for $40.
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