Bottom line: cruising can be done on pretty much any budget and on anyone's premises. The cost of cruising is the product of our choices, priorities, and pocket depth, but at the end of the day, we all get to enjoy the same sunsets :) I hope you found those videos insightful, and that we all meet at a marina or anchorage someday! /Sophie
@SailingAquarius
5 жыл бұрын
The first year we owned Aquarius (an Amel Super Maramu 2000) we spent close to $50,000 US upgrading her. But, we have been cruising on about $1500 per month for maintenance the last year and 1/2. There are months that might be $6000, but not too many of them. The big expenses: Running Rigging $12K, Solar/Wind with Davits $12K, Batteries $3K to $8K (depends on what kind), Bottom Job $3.5K (Paint/Anti-foul)... But, I don't think that they will spend USD$55K to USD$60K each year moving forward to maintain a 2007 Amel54. There is a learning curve... Every mistake costs about $1000. Trying to take the ballooner down on Anchor, that cost me $1000. Leaving the Ballooner up in too much wind, another $1K. These are expensive mistakes that I hope to make once. But as you get to know your boat you will make fewer of these "mistakes". And thus your maintenance bill goes down. Fair Winds... Sailing Aquarius
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
@@SailingAquarius I hope you're right! Along that vein, yes, a lot of the maintenance costs were deferred maintenance issues that inevitably show up when a previous owner has left the boat sitting for a bit after deciding to sell. The genoa and staysail furlers alone were nearly 40% of the total maintenance cost - hopefully I don't have to replace those every year! I am going to keep the 50-55k expectation since 10% of purchase cost seems to be an oft-repeated number and hope to be pleasantly surprised. You are definitely right about the learning curve, though!
@srqlisa7881
5 жыл бұрын
One thing I learned from watching another channel and this is for you and your friends boat insurance, double check with your broker they sometimes dont' tell you that coverage may only be when in harbor/marina may not be covered if not if not docked. : ) peace
@svgarulfo
5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah yes Aquarius is right, you pay a lot of money riding the learning curve, and then it gets better. 10% is overestimated for higher end boats. For instance, travelift costs and antifoul paint costs depend on boat size, not boat price. And you can count on better specs for systems and build quality to save on maintenance costs (proportionally, of course).
@pvdprasad1
4 жыл бұрын
srq lisao
@gavinlee2742
5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank Sophie, Marky and SV Tengah for being so open about their boats. Really appreciated the miniseries. Best wishes in your adventures.
@JCAJCA3
5 жыл бұрын
What a great series! The Amel is stunning. One thing that struck me though at the end of the video was that ALL the voyagers get to see the same beautiful sunrises and sunsets no matter what boat brought them there. It was the journey they all shared. Sophie you are great. GOD bless, JC
@SailingAquarius
5 жыл бұрын
Z and I have been sailing Aquarius for 2 years now, and just did the last 12 months of sailing budget. We spent an average of $4500 per month, including Maintenance, Food, Insurance, Spares, Marinas, Moorings, Light Bulbs, Engine Oil, Filters, etc. Basically everything to do with LIFE on Aquarius. This also includes all the Camera Equipment we bought! We have about $4K of camera equipment on board now. We do our budget monthly, pay most of our bills with credit cards, and then go over the statements and put the numbers into a spreadsheet. We are almost down the the penny with what we spend, including what we spend in cash. Like I said in an earlier post, the first year you can spend a $H!!!TL00D of cash. And some of the money spent your first year (or sometimes most of it) will be a complete MISTAKE.. Because you don't really know what cruising is, and you don't really know what you need cruising, until you have done it for a year or two and talked to countless sailers that have cruised for over 10 years. You may find you don't need much at all, or you may find you like all the bells and whistles. Cruising changes you! Back to the basics! Check us out our KZitem channel at Sailing Aquarius... Best, and to sum it up... Just Do It! All budgets welcome! (OK there is a bottom line, of about $2000 per month all in... Maybe lower?)
@teunisbaas8888
5 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with Ken's numbers; they jive (are in line) with the numbers I have seen from other AMEL cruisers. Also agree with spending $H!!!TLOAD of cash the 1st year as well as making the "complete MISTAKEs" plural in my case as I made many unnecessary replacements hahahahahahaha as I just wanted the boat to be mechanically "perfect" to compensate for my cruising inadequacies; for example the new furlers - but once installed I realized what a tremendous improvement they were over the 2nd generation BAMAR; hence more safe. I am now really working towards the USD5K a month but having to put the boat for the whole cyclone season (otherwise you wouldn't get the berth) in the NOUMEA marina already shot a USD1500/mnth hole iso of being on my own mooring 500 meters away. But we were hit 2 weeks ago by cyclone OMA and the ketch anchored next to my mooring went on the rocks and sunk.
@landsea3682
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Aquarius! How are you doing? We are contemplating upgradng from a 24 footer to something a little bigger.... like an Amel Super Maramu for example. Your budget indication is of much interest. Does your $4500/month spend include the purchase of your new sails for example? and amortisation of other big $$ equipment or is this the general running of the boat, mooring fees, food, haulouts/anitfouling etc.? Thx!
@RobotronOG
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a lot cheaper than 55k just in maintenance, Amel may work for me after all lol
@roadboat9216
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative and honest video. These costs are toward the top of the range. And if you can afford it, great! My wife and I cruised an older but excellent cruising boat ( Cal 46) We had the usual full time cruising amenities. But no washer! An advantage of buying an older quality boat is that is came with a lot of amenities that I otherwise would not go out and buy. Electric winches, water maker, diesel generator. All old and not working, but after a year at anchor in the Baja and still enjoyed cruising the area. Fixed everything (sometimes with the help of Mexican ingenuity). We almost never took a dock. Just invested in good ground tackle and a good dingy. (Both very important if you want to avoid marinas and be more independent.). We bought the boat for 74k and put another 10k into her. We comfortably lived on about 30k per year for everything,: food, medical, insurance, boat maintenance and lots of SCUBA diving (carried all of our own dive gear and tank compressor.)The boat was paid for. We met people cruising for much less. It can be done. The cheapest I came Accross was a single retiree living on a total of 11k a yr. Yes he was struggling.
@moniquemedleycommercialpro2112
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for publishing these. Sophie, you are a natural behind the camera!
@robertmills794
4 жыл бұрын
I see a pattern, buy an Amel find a pretty Swedish lady. Worked for Brian on Delos,.. seems to have worked here too.
@psystealth
3 жыл бұрын
she knows how the boat works ....? or is it a boat? he knows there's a center cockpit !!
@ChristofferETJ
2 жыл бұрын
Mie, the woman featured in this video, is actually Danish. Not that there is any real difference, but if you know what to listen for, you can distinguish the different accents quite clearly. If you are in doubt in real life, just ask what they have connected to their anchor. If they have Shane holding their anchor, they are Swedish. Of course, Scandinavians (and the Dutch) do not necessarily have a Scandinavian (Dutch) accent. Most do, but a significant percentage speak English with a British or American accent.
@chrischambers721
4 жыл бұрын
Sophie thank you so much for this fabulous mini-series. The honesty and open hearted discussion are invaluable to those of us hoping to follow our dreams..A brilliant insight!
@jastark22181
5 жыл бұрын
I really like the layout of their amel
@Bauchfalte
4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays you can buy an decent Amel Super Maramu (52 feet) with exactly the same performance and almost the same comfort for 250.000,- €. In more then 50 years of sailing I sailed a lot of different ships. Not one of them came even close to the Amels. I am feeling very sad and sorry about the very new Amels which certainly are leaving the tracks of Henri Amel. They are sacrificing the very best ideas ever came true on sailing boats to modern design, what is a pity for sure. If you like to spend much less money, look out for older or smaller models like Santorin, Mango, Maramu or even Sharki. All of them still are perfect boats to sail around the world. You always can trust your life to an Amel Ship. And you always can sail them singlehandet if this will be necessary and you will always find Amel-Service around the world. There are so many sailingboats - Amels ever have been SAILINGSHIPS.
@cinemapigeon4898
3 жыл бұрын
The Amel 50 and 60 are spectacular, what are your problems with them?
@Bauchfalte
3 жыл бұрын
@@cinemapigeon4898 They left the rules behind, which Henry Amel once foundet. They are (beautiful) showboats for (high standard) holliday sailing. Serious Lifaboard-Sailers do need other boats. Boats like Supermaramus and the old 54 are theyr first choice. It is a pitty when designers make the rules, instead of engeniers and sailors.
@cinemapigeon4898
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte I mean, if the new Amel 60 was given to me for free, I certainly wouldn't complain.
@randystrand908
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte I'm only in the "dream stage" of sailing, but being retired, single and in pretty good shape physically, I'm gathering info and appreciate your comments of experience. I like equipment and gear and tools and fixing things so the ketch rigging has caught my attention. These Amel boats are looking very attractive for live-aboard use! How old - what years - should I be looking at to avoid the quality problems you have highlighted? (Also, if you have opinions re "best" all round Amel model/s, I'd very much appreciate your opinion on that as well.
@pred7949
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte your opinions on this topic is really just a confession of character. You have given absolutely no reason of substance for your views, other than you dislike the design change after 20+ years of a boat with a few tweaks. There are enough Amels that look like the ones you like. The FACTS are that there is absolutely nothing wrong with the new Amel and the way they are heading.
@lancer2204
5 жыл бұрын
13:54 I can recall Brian on SV Delos saying of their Super Maramu "you will break before the boat does"
@d3w4yn3
5 жыл бұрын
This series was INCREDIBLY valuable to me!!! Thanks so much for including a low-end budget, similar to my boat!!!
@RyanSophieSailing
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! So glad it helped :)
@corujariousa
3 жыл бұрын
This couple certainly can afford all the modern features and seem to maintain well those in this beautiful Amel. Keeping up w/ maintenance of all those push-button gadgets takes a good amount of money. I love it! :-)
@steveburton5825
5 жыл бұрын
Great boat! The 54 is an expensive boat to buy and to bring into condition. There are known problems with the furlers and the the Volvo that can easily add $60+K. to the purchase price but then you have a boat that is close to a perfect cruiser for two as can be. The twin sails up front help the 54 go upwind a bit better than the Super Maramu (Delos) and she's a bit wider in the back end to give more comfortable accommodation. It might not seem like it is much bigger than a 53' Super Maramu but the interior volume is quite a bit larger. Scott & Mie have done an awesome job of keeping Tengah in tip top condition. Fair winds!
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Steve Burton, do you have an Amel 54? You stated some of the exact reasons why our costs were so high, although we only replaced some items on the Volvo rather than the whole engine. As others have stated, these repairs aren't annual. That said, I replaced the fresh waterpump 6 months ago and now it's got an internal short. Another 500 euros! If anyone is considering both the Super Maramu and the newer 54, Steve pointed out exactly why we chose the 54. We've measured 10-15 degrees difference in upwind performance at the limit when we use the staysail vs. not. And the interior volume difference was striking, given the 54 is only a foot longer than the SM. That said, the SM is less complicated (read: easier/cheaper to maintain) and there are a LOT more of them, so you'll have a lot of help from other owners when something goes wrong. We are quite happy with our choice, though.
@steveburton5825
5 жыл бұрын
@@SVTengah Hi Scott/Mei, no, not yet although I've been a long time lurker and am in the market for a good Redline Super Maramu 2000. I quite like the 54 and given a bigger budget, I'd definitely go that way but my circumstances are that I will have to hang on to the house in addition to owning a (to me at least) super yacht that I will only sail 6 months a year so a good Super Maramu 2K is at the top of my price range. I've talked to lots of owners of both as well as the usual Amel guru's so am quite aware of the pro's and cons of each. The 54 owners that I've talked to have all faced your repairs which is unfortunate but I'm glad to hear you were able to repair the Volvo rather than do a replacement. Like, I said, you have a beautiful boat and you both seem to take really good care of her. Fair winds!
@mnardo638
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this series. Loved that you explored the budget and costs for different boats and different budgets. We are in the planning stages for setting off and love these type of videos. You do a nice job on all your videos but I particularly enjoyed this set of them. Good luck and stay safe! Ciao
@ulisesvidana5440
6 ай бұрын
Loved your ending! It is what sailing is about! Totalment! 👏🏻🥂🌹
@jamesmarva1268
2 жыл бұрын
I personally love the Amels, I have been researching yachts for months and the center cockpit and safety of the Amels is outstanding in my opinion, thank you all.
@marcostolk6422
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sohpie for the insightful mini series!!!!
@jtgrandtour4115
3 жыл бұрын
You are the best, Joseph.
@sdhales50
5 жыл бұрын
I've enjoyed all your videos. This series did not disappoint. Thank you for all the effort you put in to present excellent videos.
@robertlee8042
5 жыл бұрын
What a perfunctory glossover tour of the interior.
@ronmossman2016
3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for the video. It does show very well the different costs of sailing offshore. Amel 54 The ultimate. We can't afford it at this point, but our Roberts centre cockpit 44 ketch will take us everywhere the Amel can go. Maintenance costs once it is done up should be $5,000 NZD per year for up to 10 years, (plus any nasty surprises) then she'll require more money again. So .... One can cruise on any budget. Some of the "fun" is casting off into the unknown not knowing how the entire venture will be funded. Opportunities to generate funds will come along ...
@caromarco6315
2 жыл бұрын
Each of the 3 videos was very interesting!
@dalecharlesphoto
5 жыл бұрын
Great interview on one of top-5 blue water boats. Talk about loaded! Of interest and deserving of more mention is the two easy chairs in this salon, that would be an essential must-have for me during a long voyage. With arm-rests of course! That's one thing a lot of cruisers don't have. Hallberg-Rassey offers this option as well. *That helm to port is a pilot house design. Impressive stern powered entry gantry, wow. Walk the plank!
@RyanSophieSailing
5 жыл бұрын
Those armchairs were my favorite place to sit in this boat!!! I loved them... and yes, that passerelle is so cool! Such a great boat :) /Sophie
@dalecharlesphoto
5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing Yes and thank you for the proper term - passerelle.
@tjonessc
5 жыл бұрын
$55k in maintenance a year is a deal breaker for most folks. Wow great vid. My dream boat would be a new Amel 50 but I think I would need to sell it in two years to avoid the upkeep expenses...
@namechamps
4 жыл бұрын
I am going to guess that $55K is because they are paying pros to do everything. Doing it yourself maintenance shouldn't be that much. SV Delos is on a Amel Super Maramu which is only slightly smaller and older and their estimate was $9,400 per year however they do essentially everything DIY other than stuff that can't be done like haulouts, sand blasting, crane rental, etc.
@leudast1215
7 ай бұрын
Good man for appreciating that center cockpits are the only relatively safe cockpit available for these types of sailing vessels. However... doesn't mean much if your bolt on keel falls off or that alleged blue water rigging snaps.
@inixio11
5 жыл бұрын
really loved this series...
@doxies
3 жыл бұрын
Good video - love the 70's filter, music and cast.
@sfopaladin2661
4 жыл бұрын
When asked what else he wanted on board. I really thought he was going to say a tool shed and work shop! 😁 After seeing all the required maintenance & upkeep, he's going to need it!! 😎👍
@leonardkevin12
5 жыл бұрын
That was a very informative, interesting and well done series. Thx!
@gregpowell1962
5 жыл бұрын
OK thank you. Lowering my size expectations. Dramatically.
@apollomorris9920
4 жыл бұрын
This has been vary helpful for me thanks for your help 🙂
@2bitrasputin793
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty darn Awesome. Amel Ketch seems to be the best for a world cruise. Although a 7 ft draft is a little bit of a bummer for the shallows. Yes, I bet it's a full-time job to maintain a boat like that. Good work if you can get it. What a life!
@reddbudd1849
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, enjoyed all three videos very much. A lot of very good information. I really liked the three boat prospective, I'm trying to get back into sailing after 20 year away from it. (Raised two kids.) You made some very good points and gave me some things to think about as I look for my next boat.
@dufus2273
5 жыл бұрын
thanks guys, nice video, very informative. Really like the center cockpit on the Amel. Idaho usa
@First-gd7ci
Ай бұрын
That thing must have a secret cabin for the mechanic and maintenance crew!
@jonnymiller1035
3 жыл бұрын
i own a 2006 amel 54 for 14 years now and dont belive ever spent mor tha 35000 a year on maintenance . average 6 months of sailing per year and probably average of 20000 euro per year.
@sm6wet
5 жыл бұрын
Nice video and I really like this boat. Looking at a used 2006 Amel 54 now. Only thing I wish it was not that deep draft. That was a broad Danglish accent hahaha. I think what they are missing are a few backup systems like Wind Vane to take less stress on the Autopilot and ennergy consumption from the batteries. I would probably also install a amatuer radio / HF. I think the maintenence and service cost they are talking about is mostly having proffesionals doing it. If one is a handy DIY person that cost can come down significantly. Also Marina fees, well, they are in the Med. If they would have been in Scandinavia they could buy a annual spot for less than €1000 in Sweden. There are also Nature marinas which are completly free. WI is going to be cheaper then the Med apart from a few luxury places. Rest of Caribbean is fairly low cost like Cuba, Jamaica, Venezuela, Mexico, Colombia. Insurance, different countries have different prices. I dont know what country they are flagging but Sweden has some very good insurance prices even for go-anyware-insurance. Great video. Keep it up.
@mz2288
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this vid. Excellent content and great insights. I can see the boat is in pristine condition and very well maintained. 55k however seems very high...I imagine the initial upgrades and fixes were all in here? My guess would be that as you sail the globe these costs will even out a little. Would be great to catch up in a year or so and see where you are on expenses. Wish you all fair winds and best of luck with this beautiful blue water cruiser! Thanks again for sharing...very helpful.
@gordonmcallister2566
3 жыл бұрын
Great work on the video. And what a beautiful sailboat!
@tunamaniak
5 жыл бұрын
Sophie can you please find and interview a catamaran and trimaran couple, excellent work super informative and helpful. You ask better questions then the media these days. Also thanks to all the participants that made their time and vessel available
@RyanSophieSailing
5 жыл бұрын
That’s a good suggestion! I’ll need to find some volunteers for that, but if I can, I’ll do it. /Sophie
@Firebrrat31
5 жыл бұрын
@@RyanSophieSailing see if you can do Riley and Elayna from sailing la vagabonde they have been sailing for sometime and have a good idea about what things cost.
@lauriebott3020
5 жыл бұрын
Nice going with the music pairing . Lounge music and wood motif makes one yearn for scotch on the rocks and a dimly lighted room , which you showed here , Super good , Love your assistent
@Gatorforlife11
5 жыл бұрын
Great series! Very informative. I am looking forward to living on a boat soon.
@gdespino
5 жыл бұрын
I love this boat. I wish I could get one. Good video. Cheers.
@sapoz
Жыл бұрын
Hey, I saw this ketch last week in Vanuatu!
@lucderan
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, nice boat, nice couple. Amel is The boat if you want to (and can) Sail around the world. Fair wind!
@TheDavenator7
5 жыл бұрын
Ever thought about adopting a 50 year old man? I'm potty trained.
@larryboles629
4 жыл бұрын
No hes not. He will require lots of quite time on the stern with a fishing rod.
@flobel1219
5 жыл бұрын
stunning boat
@RR-or5ip
3 жыл бұрын
I love your boat! Seriously considering one for myself
@velocita8842
5 жыл бұрын
Well done Sophie. I truly enjoyed this mini-series!
@anothercar
4 жыл бұрын
I love the amels, but was disappointed by the new Amel 50 having recently delivered one. The tinted windscreen is impossible to see through at night and the rig felt unbalanced. Needs a mizzen mast. The magic school bus didnt point well at all. Overall beautiful construction and craftsmanship but lackluster sailing performance.
@MarcelaR-dh1ok
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful yacht....one piece of advise ...when sitting at the table...let her slide over to next to you
@danielols1
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you all for sharing
@liho26
4 жыл бұрын
I like positive video. Thank you for good content!
@davebrixey9060
3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you.
@jeffc6038
5 жыл бұрын
I enjoy it thanks for sharing nice quality
@andredupont4997
4 жыл бұрын
Beau bateau de grande renommée - mais ... Madame voudrait changer les rideaux et les coussins. Ce que femme veut ... 😍. A chacun son budget, l'essentiel étant d'être heureux sur son bateau quelque soit sa taille. ⛱ Merci Sophie&Ryan pour cette initiative inattendue. Les propriétaires ont accepté le jeu des post-it . Bravo.
@cyclomaniac9086
5 жыл бұрын
Great series. Thanks
@Gs-rg2vo
Жыл бұрын
Love the mini series I wonder what’sthe cost of a 64 ketch amel just love that boat but impossible to find something like this !
@kevin3434343434
5 жыл бұрын
That's not Karen and Brian, I'm confused..
@sisterbrothers1677
5 жыл бұрын
You mean Kazza and Breeyawn. Phhh, amateur.
@al4385
4 жыл бұрын
It's not the same boat. Delos is a 53 and the interior is different.
@ryanshepeard3206
4 жыл бұрын
The tribe is always watching lol
@WeisCarl2000
4 жыл бұрын
so is that 55k a year having someone else work on your boat doing all the repairs?
@sprezzatura8755
3 жыл бұрын
55k is to pay professionals to do most of the work. If you are capable and willing to do a lot of work you can easily cut that number in half, or less.
@garymclaughlin4457
11 ай бұрын
fabulous
@MarcelaR-dh1ok
Жыл бұрын
He got his skippers license...let me guess...Master Mariner Oceans
@AfricanFlightStar
5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting thank you!
@ronanguegan1774
7 ай бұрын
Très beau voilier l amel 54
@CaptPauly
2 жыл бұрын
$55,000+? on what? great video 😊 love to know the details.
@laurentfroggy6631
5 жыл бұрын
Très bonne série Sophie and what a great boat too. Not cheap to maintain though. Do they have their own channel? I saw a few GoPro around. Merci and best from HKG 🇭🇰
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, check our profile. We are trying to catch up on videos, but as Sophie said, we have been inundated with boat work. But it's slowing down, so expect more videos soon!
@YoguiNYC
5 жыл бұрын
Really good video, thank you
@alcibiadesmarcialneto922
4 жыл бұрын
If their spending are so high, without food, healt plan, etc., this is totally discouraging!😞😞😞😞😞
@BreezyRider66
4 жыл бұрын
Lovely lovely boat, it must be a wonderful experience to sail on her but is she not just too complex and time consuming to maintain yourselves?
@lisahanlin5317
5 жыл бұрын
well done...great videos
@francisverhelst9375
2 жыл бұрын
A bit strange: as the owners say the boat is built as a tank, but everything seems to break down… we did a one year sailing trip with our beneteau oceanis and spent about 2000€ on maintenance in the whole year… and no, when we returned from the trip we did not need to invest tons of money in past due maintenance. For me this seems like a big no on Amel yachts ? Maybe too complex systems ??
@attorneyeranbenezra-immigr3829
Жыл бұрын
Sophie hi. Out of the bavaria 57 2018 you reviewed and this amel 54. If money wasn't a problem. Which boat you would buy to do what you do guys? I am in negotiations to buy a sailboat. Loved the amel 54. It feel safer and a tank. The Bavaria 57 feel like ikea furniture and less massive. Am I right?
@ross82
Жыл бұрын
55k maintenance? Is he maintaining or replacing?
@kevinsmith2349
4 жыл бұрын
They didn't mention if the 50K annual cost on maintenance includes the cost of their own 30-40 hour week labor (which they mentioned how much of their own time they spend)..If it doesn't then that's a lot of cash to spend while also working full time on the boat.
@jamesmarva1268
2 жыл бұрын
👁🙏😇🥰❤️🔥🌎🤲 blessings 🙌 2 U all and thank you for information into the life of sailing ⛵️ Amen & Amen.
@deaftone311
5 жыл бұрын
my one legged buddy has been sailing a '45 ketch (pearson?) around the world since 2007 on about $20k a year he gets from the army, and I know for a fact he spends half that on alcohol.
@bos6782
2 жыл бұрын
Did he mean 5500, not 55000? That seems extreme for maintenance. How would a person afford that amount?
@tip0019
5 жыл бұрын
When he says he spent less on the boat compared to the Stockholm apartment I think he forgot about the general maintenance part (55k a year) as that adds up with the other costs to a total of roughly 6500 a month, which is a lot. Just saying :-) The maintenance of an average apartment is at least 5 times less so it would be wrong not to include these costs. Nothing wrong with enjoying the boat though, it is gorgeous.
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Hi tip001, I should have been more specific. Stockholm is a pretty expensive city to live in and when you count the $10USD beers, $150USD mid range meal for two, etc the total cost of living on a boat is less. So I should have said the total cost of living. Here on anchorage, the most expensive thing we can buy is fish from the local fishermen. :)
@CHRIS198490
5 жыл бұрын
@@SVTengah you dreaming yeah lol
@ooweesaler
5 жыл бұрын
They forgot boat depreciation.
@tip0019
5 жыл бұрын
@@ooweesaler That too. Please stay polite guys. (edit: not you but chris)
@NZL50505
4 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@HopeOfJoe
5 жыл бұрын
Totally enjoyed the videos. And, miss Sophie, You asked all the important questions....of, course. :-) . I would also like to know if any of the interviewees also hold down jobs or have an online business to support the lifestyle? Thank you.
@RyanSophieSailing
5 жыл бұрын
It’s a mix! Scott and Mie saved, Ryan and I work remotely, and Marky does some photography work combined with physical work for other boats :)
@SerbanOprescu
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. And a really, really nice boat. I strongly suspect that your little helper had something to do with the quality of this video! Maybe he was whispering in your ear? :)
@xSPECTAR888
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Sopihe are you from Denmark?
@RyanSophieSailing
3 жыл бұрын
Mie in the video is from Denmark, I am from france! :)
@frankd2301
4 жыл бұрын
Amels are perhaps the best boats out there
@dd19091967
3 жыл бұрын
Dream boat 😋
@24hourtravellers
4 жыл бұрын
Tengah means centre in Bahasa Malaysia. Is the owner from Malaysia or Indonesia?
@SVTengah
3 жыл бұрын
Scott here....Good catch, actually my family escaped from Vietnam as refugees after the war and spent 16 months as refugees on a little island called Pulau Babi Tengah in Malaysia. I've already scoped out where we're going to anchor when we go there. Ironically they escaped by boat to get to the States, we worked our butts off and now I'm back on a boat. ;)
@alexeykozakevich5643
4 жыл бұрын
When Amel was a perfomance cruiser.
@carstenf279
5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who is a bit shocked by the yearly maintenance costs? 55.000 Euros - that would be about USD 65.000 on maint alone!!!!! WOW
@philthefarrier9469
5 жыл бұрын
Carsten F I have been told you need to budget 15-20% of the value per year. Never owned a yacht.
@bophoto
5 жыл бұрын
Thats just about right actually - keep think about a 500,000 house. it sit on land, no salt, yet you get hit with termites, dry-rot etc etc etc. the freaking paint wear off every couple years and so on. that boat is a 500,000 bucks floating house, floating in salt-water, basically boats start disintegrating the moment you first launch them into water. unlike houses, the components for boats are far more expensive and specialized.. = cost. Its a bit like buying a bentley motorcar, its not the purchase price that gets you, what you really need to think about, is if you can afford the $10,000 annual service check-up required to keep your V12 running like news and make all other parts of the car up to standard every year from now on. ;-)
@glennvoyer4624
4 жыл бұрын
your dog is beautiful
@tammy6992
3 жыл бұрын
Oh who’s the cutest little dog is that and does the couple with the amel Have a channel
@mo2mo1mo
4 жыл бұрын
They bought the Amel because of SV Delos meanwhile the delos crew want an 90ft trimaran made from aluminium for high latitude sailing. Amateurs. Congrats on the boat tho, safe travels .
@peter9180
5 жыл бұрын
Good informative vid, I was surprised with the high running costs, especially the cost of maintenance, why do you need a crew, many people sail single handed.
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
We don't necessarily need crew. The boat can be sailed by two or even one, no problem. But crew, generally friends or family, do add positively to our experience. :)
@flyerjack1548
Жыл бұрын
Taking Friends and new friends with you when you sail is what makes all that upkeep and maintenance expense worth it. Sometimes you will sail alone together, but sailing is a great social experience … so don’t miss that part of it either ⛵️
@thegoodwood.71
5 жыл бұрын
So 55,000 euro a yr for maintenance sound a little high no?
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, 10% of purchase cost is a good rule for annual maintenance costs. We bought the boat last year and it seems that when the (any?) previous owner decides to sell a boat, they leave a lot of deferred maintenance. We have replaced almost every electric motor, many of the gearboxes, both genoa/staysail furling motors, batteries, etc. Next up is the standing rigging, at 11k. So the reality is that we spent a lot the first year because the last owner stopped spending money in anticipation of selling. Over time, I find that 10% is a good rule if you want to keep the boat in good shape. Year 2 will be cheaper but at some point there will be sails to replace and if the motor goes, count on 30-40k. Average that over years and my guess is that 10% is about right.
@liznelson2930
3 жыл бұрын
What size inverter did you put in ?
@seb81123
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sophie, Ryan & friends :) These mini serie was really fruitful and very insightful. I am binge Watching your adventures and this is really inspiring :) Hope I can free up from the rat race - tinder a partner (bars also work) and go discover the world. Still work to do and we’ll meet in few years drinking margaritas ;)
@starlight7830
5 жыл бұрын
Please show how you set up your lee cloths in the aft cabin !
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Very observant! We can setup lee cloths on both sides of the island berth but the aft cabin is effectively useless while underway. (1) The primary autopilot is below the berth so it's noisy (2) The bed, at 1.6m wide, while great at anchor, means you often roll twice before hitting the other lee cloth. We generally sleep in the passage berth or the most comfortable position on the boat - the saloon floor!
@svgarulfo
5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah Scott, my friend, sleep sideways while underway and you’ll get the beauty of that berth. For the autopilot, trim your boat properly and it’ll work less, survive longer and let you sleep. :-)
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
@@svgarulfo Crossing the Atlantic with swell on the beam or confused swell for a decent part of it, no amount of trimming could get rid of the intermittent waves swinging the stern around and the autopilot working hard to straighten things up. Perhaps we just need to have you aboard to teach us how to solve that! :)
@svgarulfo
5 жыл бұрын
SV Tengah ok fair enough:-) Do you have a secondary autopilot drive rotary, on the helm shaft directly? Amel did that as an option on some SM. it was a clever way to solve the noisy night problem (and also give the equipment a rest).
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
@@svgarulfo Yes, we do have that backup rotary autopilot. Oddly, the computer for the backup AP doesn't have gyroscopic compensation nor windvane mode! We generally run it while on motor precisely to give the primary AP a rest. I guess I could find the NMEA wind output and wire it up to make windvane mode work on the backup computer or I could just swap the "output" to the drive units so the rotary unit runs off commands from the "main" computer. It's on my list - item 634 to deal with, haha. Hearing your problems with your Volvo D3-110 engine and others replacing it multiple times (or even preemptively!) is making me stuff away some money in case my Volvo decides to act up. I hope I'm one of the lucky ones and worrying about nothing.
@apache318
5 жыл бұрын
Is the maintenance cost, "Do it yourself?" or hiring someone ?
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
We do a lot of small stuff (oil change, maintain some electrical part that rust always seems to get to no matter how well you seal it, grease x,y,z) ourselves but hire people to do big, important things that require specialized tools. We do watch over them the entire time they're on the boat, though. Anytime I've relaxed that rule, I've regretted it afterwards. Example: we hired people to install our new staysail/genoa furlers. I watched most of it but when it came time to put the last bolts in, I didn't bother watching this final insignificant bit. Well, they didn't put the required loctite on the bolts. A week later, the bolts all fell out and we had to wrestle the huge genoa down ourselves, at night, with waves and wind.
@apache318
5 жыл бұрын
@@SVTengah Thanks!
@CHRIS198490
5 жыл бұрын
i do not believe in those costs a year
@netpackrat
5 жыл бұрын
@@CHRIS198490 I have no problem believing they spent that much; it is a big, complicated piece of equipment with a lot of parts, which they have obviously maintained to a very high standard. Particularly skilled labor is usually expensive if you hire out the bigger jobs. If you watch Delos, they spend a lot less than that, but being older and a little smaller, there's somewhat less equipment to break on Delos. And taking nothing away from Brian, but there is a difference between maintaining something to an overall safe standard as they do, vs. maintaining it in peak condition as Tengah appears to be. They do nearly all of the work themselves, and they frequently are given deals in return for exposure to their huge viewership. And also if something isn't safety critical, they tend to let it go until they are able to repair it in a more economical and convenient location (i.e. small stuff is constantly broken on Delos). And to be honest, they are willing to accept a lot more risk than most would be in order to save money. Watch their re-rig series where they replaced their own standing rigging... One wrong move by Brian or his crew while he was up at the top of the mast could have brought their voyaging to a tragic end (but he saved about 10 grand). Faced with a potentially dangerous job like that (and replacing Tengah's furling motors falls into that category), there's nothing wrong with calling in professional help... There's just nothing inexpensive about it either. In the end it comes down to what you are willing to accept and what you are willing to pay.
@TheSteinbitt
4 жыл бұрын
Scott is VERY rich is my take home lol
@nobody46820
5 жыл бұрын
Wait! What? €50,000.00 per year in JUST maintenance?!?! I really want to see that broken down please. Do you have all maintenance done in the EU by a 3rd party? Good grief!
@SVTengah
5 жыл бұрын
Nobody - We like to be conservative and put aside money in case things come up. The first year is generally pretty brutal for ownership. We don't have a full breakdown handy, but last year we replaced the staysail and genoa Bamar EJF-1 electric furlers. Take a look at the cost of that alone and you'll see how 50k gets eaten up fast. I hope we don't do that often, but we had to replace the genoa one again after 6 months! Bamar was nice and paid for the 3rd furler..this time. :) Many have had trouble with their D3-110 Volvo engine and have had to replace it. We've been pretty lucky, but I'm budgeting the replacement of that if something goes wrong. Again, I'd rather have budgeted money left over than be surprised without an engine and no funds to fix it.
@nobody46820
5 жыл бұрын
@@SVTengah Roger that, but Crikey! I know it is location dependent. And for the record I'm a Volvo fan, but for f's sake! Yes, having $€£ on hand is a blessing, but good grief! What is the cost of sailes where you are?!?!?
@billrosmus6734
4 ай бұрын
People do need money to survive. Where do these folks get theirs? Are they just wealthy and don't care anymore? Or don't need to care.
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