I'm personally a Ford guy. I LOVE my 2011 f350. No problems at all with 70k miles on it. My own personal opinion, no need for hate mail. Lets all get along and agree any american diesel truck is pretty sweet! :) Peace
@poisonspiders2300
8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'd own any one of those three trucks, an I'm also a Ford guy
@DarienSeminoff
8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chevy guy personally, and I completely agree. American trucks with Diesel power is a great thing.
@josenoyola6050
8 жыл бұрын
great trucks until the turbos go out. not trying to be negative but it's one thing you should keep in mind
@co1003
8 жыл бұрын
The 15 and newer Fords have a new turbo.
@thedirymarini7727
5 жыл бұрын
America's Ford F-350 Lariat King Ranch 4X4 DRW is the only one worth buyin. Chevy and RAM are un-American communist schemes hatched by folks that just love to pee sittin down. Every time one is sold a bald eagle dies.
@HuntingWolf82
10 жыл бұрын
I don't really take sides on the big 3. However I think it speaks volumes that Ford did a fair test or so it appears. They brought their competitors for the same test and they even brought all top of the line trims, usually whoever is sponsoring the test will have their top end model versus basic work truck interior but similar engines but usually it is pretty biased. Very good job and great video
@markab71
10 жыл бұрын
I'm a Ford guy through and through but when a manufacturer hosts a demonstration one can only question the validity of the test results.
@hockeykid4343
10 жыл бұрын
I also agree. One thing I realized is that the dodge and chevy were hauling crusaders as the ford was hauling a Montana.
@gottyline08
10 жыл бұрын
Ford most likely paid a lil more to have better result. they sure did keep ford trailer outta the video best they can
@zackzander4425
10 жыл бұрын
The Ford had Brock along + the Ford is the heaviest truck.
@zacharycrocker7001
10 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, just shut up. You know the Fords trailer weighed just the same as the other trailers, I know that, and I'm a Ram guy. These guys are professionals, if they were not, they would not get brand new trucks given to them to test! MORON P.S. Ford didn't pay them, they actually had to pay Ford
@timshull59
9 жыл бұрын
I aM kOzY The Montana's taller……
@zachtravers
10 жыл бұрын
That RAM sounds like a vacuum cleaner lol
@robertbascelli6433
8 жыл бұрын
I have a 2014 ford F-350 6.7... Three turbos later. Last one blew just before Raton New Mexico... Babied into Raton to the Ford dealer who informed me that he had all the parts available because he replaces them in these trucks all the time. When I told him it's the third one, he said he wasn't surprised.
@dukinygaming259
8 жыл бұрын
Time to buy ram
@aaronjones8341
8 жыл бұрын
+Dukiny Gaming even worse
@josenoyola6050
8 жыл бұрын
h&s makes a turbo kit now. better exhaust manifolds, up pipes and downpipe
@co1003
8 жыл бұрын
Not that I believe you anyway...but the 15 and newer trucks have a different turbo.
@timmypstyle
8 жыл бұрын
Good job on this video guys. I'll admit I used to watch your videos and cringe at some of the things you said before you learned about the power loss from elevation on turbos and gas engines. But you guys have read comments and done your research and your testing has gotten a lot better. I used to watch for laughs and at how much inaccurate info you gave but now I'm watching because you guys have researched and listened to people to make your videos better. Great job guys! This was one of the best tests I've seen from anyone.
@s_hassell97
10 жыл бұрын
ford and ram are the best. fuck chevy/gm. i don't wanna die cause my ignition switch fucked up.
@skAhnaksA
9 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should study the ignition issue. It's a consumer issue, too much weight on the key ring.
@FIRENICEWOLF
9 жыл бұрын
Toyota
@daleon96
9 жыл бұрын
everyone just needs to face the fact that not every truck guy will ever agree on anything...weather its ford, chevy or dodge, we all will disagree, PERIOD.... no matter who the true winner is (ford) there all awesome trucks, they look great, they all have a boat load of power to do what they were intended to do....so why not just pick your fav. drive it like you stole it, and have fun.. no matter what you like were all truck guys...and that's all that really matters!!!!
@daleon96
9 жыл бұрын
stone45987 how about it....trying to get some unity here...
@gregb5562
9 жыл бұрын
stone45987 whats even more fucked up is you only got 1 thumbs for your comment against the guy with 10, oops hold on, 11 thumbs up. Now thats fucking hilarious. Picking up the Big Dog Duramax along with his smoking hot Allison tomorrow. Number 3 and counting. They just keep getting better.
@Ximena-q4n
9 жыл бұрын
Dodge is way better than ford
@Tylnorton
9 жыл бұрын
Ana Maria De la Torre Hell no
@MyLoudTV
9 жыл бұрын
daleon96 Hell yeah!
@Joshua-zg1ev
8 жыл бұрын
My family had a 1989 ford super duty flatbed tow truck with over 900k miles original engine and trans and was still running strong until the common headlight switch shorted out and caught fire.
@GraniteStateBackcountry
8 жыл бұрын
My dad just got a new 2016 ford super duty f250 it is so quiet yet powerful, drives like a car. includes leather console and Bluetooth
@FastPullingFister
8 жыл бұрын
Congratulations.
@Buckskinstudios
9 жыл бұрын
They didn't tow 12,000 lbs - they towed significantly LESS. If you watch carefully, you'll see that the vehicle tag read, "GVWR", which stands for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, which is the highest capacity of the vehicle, completely loaded. You would have to subtract the vehicle's weight carrying capacity to know how much any of these trailers weighed. They probably were actually pulling 10,000 lbs or less. The best solution would have been to set each trailer on a truck stop scale before heading up the hill.
@montean
9 жыл бұрын
Glenn Turner Finally somebody with a brain in their head.
@darkhorse2reign
6 жыл бұрын
No. The GVWR is different than the GCVWR = Gross COMBINED Vehicle Weight Rating which would then include a trailer.
@nathanenns7186
4 жыл бұрын
you can see on the yellow sticker off to the right it has the dry weight at 9875 lbs so yes, less than 10,000
@daviecrock1
9 жыл бұрын
One of the presenters commented during the RAM test that "you can't tell what gear you're in... I wish RAM would do that". It does do that. Using the manual gearshift toggle on the shift column, you just flip the toggle once (can't remember if its up or down right now) prior to moving to the manual shift points. Once in that position, the active gear will be displayed in the instrument cluster. I don't have a 3500, but I do have a 2014 2500 RAM Longhorn diesel 4x4, and I love it (i.e., engine, interior, electronics interfaces, engine brake, storage, etc). I have put about 10,000 miles on it at this point. I have owned three GMCs before, and I never thought I would ever own a RAM. I don't see me ever going back to a GM.
@MiguelGonzalez-lz8sg
10 жыл бұрын
Great video guys the trucks spoke for themselfes and im actually purchasing one next week and this help alot!! I knw all trucks breack and have recalls and u might get lemons but so far hands down for ford!!
@Batt15Delta
9 жыл бұрын
I'm a Silverado owner, and always will be. But I do enjoy seeing these tests, and how these trucks (whether it's Chevy, Ford, or Dodge) handle.
@jwilkum
9 жыл бұрын
Lost it when he was driving the ford and said "I actually had to look back to make sure we were still towing something" hahaha I love fords.
@michelleschellenberger4627
8 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Wilkum funny I just look back at fords all day long!! haven't stop chuckling yet!!! spent all that money for a name that doesn't perform!! Daddy told you wrong!!
@jetskier456
10 жыл бұрын
Why does the ford get a Montana and Chevy and ram get crusaders. Why can't they all just be crusaders?
@TFLcar
10 жыл бұрын
Great question that we also asked but we never got a good answer.
@murmaider2
10 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna guess advertising reasons. I bet these companies paid to get their trailers features during this event. It doesn't really matter as they all weigh about the same.
@NOLAItsNotOva
10 жыл бұрын
murmaider2 The montana is 1k lbs lighter
@norevlimit
10 жыл бұрын
They were all fairly close but it does taint the results when the trailers are different dry weights. Thank you TFLC for posing the question to Ford, too bad you did not get an answer. Not knowing the exact model numbers (but guessing based on window placement, fridge grills, etc) the Montana does seem to be lighter by 1000lbs (~11%) as noted by other replies. The best test will be the Ike Gauntlet with the exact same weight - no corporate guy hanging about. I can hardly wait.
@x3lite900
9 жыл бұрын
Because these pussies are to loyal to a suck ass truck manufacturer
@mikemuller791
10 жыл бұрын
Who cares who won...i am a GM guy but i also came to see how nice the competitors are. They all have come a long way from what they used to be. They all are best in class in different areas. Brand loyalty really clouds judgement for a lot of the hermits on the internet.
@WhiteRiverRails
8 жыл бұрын
Really cool video I enjoyed! Being a Ford fan I am, I love the interior of the platinum F150's my dad owns one, and the interior is so nice on it. And the power is amazing! Twin Turbo ecoboost. Saves so much gas too.
@dave194315
10 жыл бұрын
Seriously, why does everybody put a friggin g in cummins, THERES NO G IN CUMMINS
@n8dh
10 жыл бұрын
i wish i could like a comment multiple times
@mikemulhearn3220
10 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's not a fucking penis.
@Stonemasters11
10 жыл бұрын
Same reason I can't figure why people like yourself are overly serious about the obvious reason
@michaelgoodwin1801
9 жыл бұрын
Obviously because it gets a rise out of you..
@Stonemasters11
9 жыл бұрын
michael goodwin 2-cents...that's about all your comment was worth
@memphistn4534
8 жыл бұрын
My 06 Chevy 3500 has been pulling a 12000 lb 5th wheel though out this country for the past 6 years and had NO problem pulling up hill.
@CoyoteFTW
7 жыл бұрын
Im a Ford guy. Honestly not surprised Ford won, owning a 2016 F350 I know it has balls.
@raptorrider24
7 жыл бұрын
Yup, my dad has a 2017 F250 Platinum it hauls some heavy shit bro
@thedirymarini7727
5 жыл бұрын
I got a 2016 King Ranch DRW 4X...yeah. These guys talkin all that good good about chevy and ram never test drove the Ford. It's like they're channeling dead crazy people.
@jordanaguirre2540
2 жыл бұрын
Ima be honest growing up I was a die hard chevy guy what changed me to Ford was that at my job i drove ford duallies all the time and I was amazed on how the trucked performed ever since 2013 ive changed to Ford
@TJ-qz6hr
Жыл бұрын
@@jordanaguirre2540 I’ve seen this with about 5 of my buddies who would only own Chevys. Over the past few years they’ve all had to drive Super Duty’s at work and now, they all drive Ford Super Duty’s, but they still have a soft spot for their Chevys.
@1smokan
10 жыл бұрын
The heaviest and largest unloaded Montana high Country is under 11000 lbs. A thousand pound's or more does make a difference. This is a BS test.
@k2sb20033
10 жыл бұрын
Generally the weights do not show any options or add ons from the manufacture... i would like to believe these would have all been the same, otherwise these guys would have said something. Further, if you really want to get specific, the 5th wheel the ford was towing was much worse for aerodynamics... I really think this comes down to the ford being the fastest up this hill.
@1smokan
10 жыл бұрын
k2sb20033 All depends on which way the wind blows. I personally have pulled hundreds of trailers professionally and not. Not all RV's are the same weight and a thousand pounds makes a difference. The true test will be the Ike Gauntlet when they have they same trailers with even loads.
@judybigbooty108
10 жыл бұрын
Jeff L i agree man I can't wait to see it
@larryspiller15
10 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed that.. that's pretty shady of Ford to do that
@arbiter1
10 жыл бұрын
larry Spiller Doesn't shock me they did it, most time no one notices it or thinks it doesn't impact results much. Also wonder if the chevy and dodge trucks were messed with slightly? or specially ordered to with certain gear setup to make it not haul as well.
@nickestrada3829
9 жыл бұрын
In the end a truck is a tool, I think it's about reliability,power/performance, and getting work done if your gonna bitch about interior and shit like that, then buy a car.
@zackzander4425
10 жыл бұрын
Great Review. Well done in terms of "apples to apples" Ford won fair and square, and it had Brock in the back to add more weight. They're all really great trucks though. Probably couldn't go wrong with either one.
@dcharron1982
10 жыл бұрын
GM as recalled more vehicles this year than they have sold since 2007.
@Ozgrade3
9 жыл бұрын
After watching this video, and all the others, I really think you cant go wrong with any of these trucks. The Ford guy will like the F350, the Chevy guys will love the 3500 and the RAM guys will love their 3500's with the Cummins. They all seem so closely matched. Personally, I like the RAM purely on its looks. However I wouldn't whinge if I was given any of these beauties. We are now starting to see these appear on our roads down here in Australia........though at twice the price you guys pay.
@mattclose1439
8 жыл бұрын
Just to point out, hard plastics wear very well and to me, in a pickup, wear is very important. Its not a BMW, I don't need my pickup to be soft. That said, I do like the Ram's interior the best.
@darrenthomas4133
7 жыл бұрын
To all the Ford guys talking about how good they are, tell me more about how reliable the 6.0, 6.4, and early 6.7's was. Sure you can bulletproof them but the way I see it if I'm going to spend 50k on a truck they should be bulletproof from the factory. Chevy's are more luxury imo, and Ram's are flat out made for work. The Cummins is a proven motor, and being an inline 6 there is much less to go wrong. Paired to a 6 speed manual and if left in stock form they are the most reliable trucks you can buy.
@swss12
8 жыл бұрын
"the chevy feels different when it hits bumps" did he know chevy is the only one with IFS?
@paulhorbetz216
9 жыл бұрын
Hey a comment about ride quality I am surprised the Ford guy didn't bring up I own all three and what I noticed on my 2012 f 350 the over load is rolled so that it touch,s down sooner than the front giving it a better ride with my gmc 3500 you have to load heavier and it still jerks you around I live in Co and what you guys are doing is great keep up the good work
@lashbera
9 жыл бұрын
Does a real man really care about having a soft touch interior in his big tough work truck, you want pillows stay home
@ridetn7695
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@casheighty8
3 жыл бұрын
I mean their “test” is a camper that should have been enough of a fail
@daniellin9027
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jonathanreyes5192
2 жыл бұрын
Tough guy
@j.t.rayborn7064
8 жыл бұрын
my favorite part of the review is the fact that it is not very biased
@brandonfriesen5389
10 жыл бұрын
I love all but I am biased towards the Ram because I grew up in one and no matter how unbiased I am, I still go back to the Ram. Chevy really needs to up the torque and hp numbers. Usually Ram's in last place in these types of tests.
@zimks
10 жыл бұрын
Pics think we are all waiting for the new engine they haven't got new engine in like 6 years haha but I don't think like 20 seconds is gonna turn me away from Chevy haha
@mikemuller791
10 жыл бұрын
I agree about what Chevy needs to up...but engines will most always get above their ratings...
@smpallas10
10 жыл бұрын
The reason Chevy doesn't have new engines and Trans is because there reliable as ford's f150 08 model had sparkplug problems and some of there diesels had the same problem. Most people would rather have a more reliable engine then an stronger less reliable engine
@zimks
10 жыл бұрын
True statement Steven my brother in law owns a business has 7 gmc 2500 with 6.6 and Allison and they have been rock solid with zero issues with them he's used to have All fords in his fleet but struggled with failures and poor customer service switch to gm and has been pleased ever since!
@shaunrifield8329
10 жыл бұрын
Steven Pallas Some of their diesels had spark plug problems huh? You are a joke.
@ianbarr705
10 жыл бұрын
The noise you heard in the RAM was the cooling fan engaging. It is controlled by the ECM.
@quinnestes8337
10 жыл бұрын
There's a reason why ford built tough, love ford all day everyday
@Camperhollow
7 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent review. Although cost was not involved in this I have found that the RAM is the best value for your dollar.
@stevemccollum2011
10 жыл бұрын
What did this test prove? Well it showed that all three trucks are great, they all have some stellar looks and numbers. When it comes down to it, it's really a matter of what is your style. I have had both Chevys and Fords my whole life, to me you really can't go wrong with either of the new trucks. I have never owned a Ram so I can't really talk about it
@ericplum
9 жыл бұрын
THE STEERING WHEEL DOES HAVE A TELESCOPING FEATURE!!!! Its on the bottom of the steering column. On the left is the one that moves it up and down and there is a special one for telescoping on the bottom.
@nicholashosslogan3444
9 жыл бұрын
honestly if I were going to buy 1 of these, I want to see this test with a family in the truck with luggage strapped down in front of bed and with luggage in the trailor or camper. also I would seriously not worry about the speed limit, I want to see what the truck will actually do, I personally am a Chevy guy but got ticked that the guy let up for the turn. to me there is a lot missing from these tests. also I'm a truck driver, I'd personally like to see a shifter like in a rig installed, I don't care for automatics when it comes to hauling heavy weight or trailors.
@n8mike
Жыл бұрын
It's going to be the same results if all the trucks have exactly the same amount of weight. It's going to be the same result.
@massey706
10 жыл бұрын
Just another reason why I will always love ford
@mellowman8695
8 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but I like the chevy.
@lasvegasraiders1116
8 жыл бұрын
Same
@kevinjaybirdflaa2099
9 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend has an '09 silverado. Every time we go over a speed bump it bounces up and down for a couple extra feet after the bump. It's cool sometimes but also annoying.
@mentap4163
10 жыл бұрын
The best part about the new 6.7l powerstroke is that ford has it tuned down for the time being to wait and see if Cummins can get their shit together. And if that inline six can even come close to 440 hp, Ford will just add a slight computer upgrade to give it even more HP. Its just a big game at this point. (watch for Ram to steel Cummins design and try to make a better HD engine to compete) And i wanna see the f450 up the gauntlet fully loaded to combined 40,000 lbs (un-compared to Ram or Chevy, thats not fair)
@arbiter1
10 жыл бұрын
hownaml same could be sad for duramax in the chevy. it could put our some massive power and torque if they wanted to as well.
@mattgeko3315
10 жыл бұрын
cummins and duramax are both just about maxed out when you get those engines stock. maybe they could put a tiny bit more hp in them. powerstroke can early have another thirty or forty hp added factory tune. and yeah 'hownami' we aren't talking marine applications bro, we are talking about engines offered in pick ups.
@mentap4163
10 жыл бұрын
hownaml Cummins 'high output' is called the 'high output' because that was Cummins best attempt at over powering the first generation of the Powerstroke. ( and it worked) As soon as Cummins puts bigger injectors, rods and all the other necessary components in their stock engine; it will never break 400 hp. And i doubt they will do that because the engine is too reliable as it is. Just wait til Powerstroke offers a 'high output' as well. hahhah
@mattgeko3315
10 жыл бұрын
Duramax is out of the picture until they redesign that engine for sure.
@mattgeko3315
10 жыл бұрын
hownaml They offer 3 different engine ratings for Cummins, hahha so why not offer a 4th and make it the marine 6.7? How many different engines do you Ram heads need? Most Rams on the street dont even have the HO engine in them. I agree with Paul M, Cummins will try and squeeze a few more HP into that HO engine. And then Powerstroke will have a factory flash for the computer system to give it more than 440 HP. Its all a game that Cummins is losing at right now.
@jeremypersinger8854
8 жыл бұрын
btw I'm from wv and it's sandstone mountain. I have done this hill many times in a older Cummings and my obs 7.3 hay and cattle trailers. it's pretty steep. I wouldn't trade my powerstroke for anything as it's the most reliable and powerful for its year.
@bdks1987
9 жыл бұрын
Funny how the winner was pulling a different camper than the other 2. And since 1 camper is different,I'm sure it does not weigh exactly the same as the other 2. It might even weigh more,but it might weigh less. Even if they do weigh the same,the aerodynamics are different.
@joshs6405
8 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@jayden4379
8 жыл бұрын
+Saint Bernard 100 or 200 lbs doesn't matter because ford is the best stupid lamo
@thedirymarini7727
5 жыл бұрын
the ford even had an extra passenger lol
@MrSmokeyP
7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting on the interior I have a 2016 Ford F-150 and I choice it over the chevy !! I looked at 2016 chevy Silverado midnight addition and they had more plastic and that was a major reason I didn't buy it , im a ford fan but I don't buy for brands
@MrSkyentist
10 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason Ford sells the most trucks. That being said, my dad's 89 ram with a Cummins has over 325k miles and has only had problems with the ac. If you actually try to use a Chevy for work, you will break it. Friends 1500, and bosses 2500 were both Chevy and haven't lasted half as long.
@Mohammadkwt
10 жыл бұрын
proving chevy is a POS .
@NOLAItsNotOva
10 жыл бұрын
Cause they're cheap lol. When it breaks, people just go buy another one.
@Mohammadkwt
10 жыл бұрын
NOLAItsNotOva go learn something kid ford trucks don't break down & they are expensive than ram & chevy trucks go to their websites .
@NOLAItsNotOva
10 жыл бұрын
mohammadkwt First of all I'm not a kid. Second of all, go price a base F series truck against base models of Rams and Chevys. Ford is cheaper. They have cheaper materials, even in top trims. So yes, they are cheap. And Fords do break down. I see one almost every day on the side of the road broken down. I've even stopped to help them s couple of times to push it to the nearest mechanic shop. So please stop trying to justify Ford. They're garbage.
@jtovar737
10 жыл бұрын
NOLAItsNotOva if you see one every day imagine all the chevys and dodges daaang... keep in mind ford has the most running vehicles after 200,000 miles led by the superduty
@dave3625
8 жыл бұрын
I have worked out of well maintained ford trucks including diesels for 18 years .Had to hitch a ride with 17 tow truck drivers . can not speak about dodge but have owned 3 Silverado's 450,000 miles between them only broke down once . what good is your power if you cant make it home.
@danhellerjr
10 жыл бұрын
The big Ford kicked ass in this competition and it will kick ALL KINDS of ass when they do the Ike Gauntlet.
@clintwade1354
10 жыл бұрын
3 really excellent trucks. Each had little bells & whistles the other two did not. I would proudly own any of the three.
@TheXOoftheRO
9 жыл бұрын
"The Ram is the most truck like" exactly. The Cummins engine is in a whole other category. That's why Ram owners keep there trucks much longer. The big C is also a bit tighter, and has a longer break in period. Test these all out at 150k miles... Of course we can't test them all at .5 million because the gm and ford would be seized by then.
@donaldbilson1616
9 жыл бұрын
John Wanck I would still like to see a ford keep up with the 07 Cummins I have used to haul, loaded I could walk away from fords and flat leave a chevy that weighed 10,000lbs or more less than me. I am a chevy guy always have been but you cant beat the Cummins for pulling power and longevity.
@TheXOoftheRO
9 жыл бұрын
John Wanck I know I have heard it all. We have 20 year old Rams beating new fords and Chevy at tractor pulls. Good luck
@TheXOoftheRO
9 жыл бұрын
John Wanck yea we will just keep the world records and technological advancements. You can keep hating.
@thehavok4258
9 жыл бұрын
John Wanck AHa
@johnnyrocket3994
9 жыл бұрын
John Wanck So what little girly truck did you purchase some it sounds like it wasn't a real tuck.
@rzr800efi
9 жыл бұрын
There is a huge lever on the side of the chevy wheel to for telescoping. And not that it would matter but when comparing why would they use single wheel for ford and dually for the other two?
@MrJeffyb69
9 жыл бұрын
For the last time THE STEERING WHEEL DOES TELESCOPE ON THE CHEVY!!!! It has a separate lever! Learn the truck already! It's not like you have all that hard of a job!
@gingerd2098
9 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Ford exclusive guy, but to be honest, anything from the big three these days kicks ass. That is exactly why competition is key!
@danlogan1979
9 жыл бұрын
The Ram sounds like a vacuum cleaner
@strix4667
8 жыл бұрын
Love my 2011 Ford F-350 6.2. Compared to a couple of mid 2000's chevy 3500's with the 6.0 it hauls a load so much better.
@wasup9439
8 жыл бұрын
how many miles you have on it
@strix4667
8 жыл бұрын
I've put about 2000 miles on it since I got it last November with 102000 on it.
@wasup9439
8 жыл бұрын
+Kaleb Wagner nice I got mines with 78000 miles. I've only put 1000 on it.
@wasup9439
8 жыл бұрын
+Kaleb Wagner it's a 13 though
@huntergill1118
9 жыл бұрын
Damn that ford is gorgeous.
@itwasmeification
9 жыл бұрын
That noise you asked about at 19:34 is a fan that kicks in when the engine temp reaches a certain point. The thomas saf t liner c2 bus has a cummins 6.7 and the same fan kicks in, if i remember right, somewhere between 160 and 180 degrees Fahrenheit.
@excursionlimousineservice2203
10 жыл бұрын
6.7 power stroke has best in class fuel economy btw... have you ever driven a truck that will burn rubber in 4x4?? Ford for life.
@83Starnes
9 жыл бұрын
I drive 100-120,xxx a year and my 2011 ford blew at 60k and my 2009 mega cab needed 2 auto trans in 2 years. My Duramax has been a beast. I'm toying now with trading it for a new Denali HD.
@roydelpozo4816
10 жыл бұрын
I am also Ram biased (own 3!) but this was an impressive showing on the Ford. Longevity is the concern for me because i put 100k a year on my trucks. If Ford stands behind their products like they did in 7.3 days i would be a costumer but right now after the 6.0 fiasco and the current problems they need to build costumer confidence back up. In full disclosure i am more of a Cummins man than a Dodge man but it all works great in the end! People who love their brand will stay faithful. Very little will get them to change. Performance was so close on this particular test that i would be more interested in fuel economy and durability!
@Game_with_RJ
10 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with your point, but I think Ford has already begun to put more confidence in the consumer with the 6.7 Powerstroke. Its going to no doubt take much more time to really know, but from all the people I know that own a 6.7 Ford and what I've read it seems like they may be able to right the wrong done from the 6.0 fiasco. I am a Ford person, but if I bought a new truck today I would take a serious consideration with the Cummins. I don't care for the truck, but the motor in it is the best one out there as far as what it is capable of with the history of the platform and its reliability.
@Mohammadkwt
10 жыл бұрын
this is ford own made 6.7 powerstroke as for invistar made 6.0 & 6.4 history that's why ford left them & started making their own 6.7 diesel engine with the technology they have & trust me if they want to bring the 7.3 back ( which they can if they want to ) it would destroy cummins & duramax easily .
@roydelpozo4816
10 жыл бұрын
Chance Lundgren To be honest ford made the best truck until a few years ago... it was the f550 that you could get the Cummins in with the allison transmission. That Truck was a winner! Problem was it was overkill for almost EVERYBODY! If they made that combination in a 1 ton i would have been in! But Alas no longer can you even buy them. And they are gold in the used market! But that was the best ford EVER! Nothing with it having Dodge or Chevy parts... it had the best the market had to offer!
@roydelpozo4816
10 жыл бұрын
mohammadkwt i would never go as far as Destroy... it would be competitive. THe only reason the 7.3 came off the market was emissions. They sure are prized motors by their owners! But as for bringing it back... they would bring back the size but the motor would be a technological non starter due to emissions. Hell... i would kill for the cummins 8.3 in a one ton... but ... they will never do it... But we can all dream right?
@Mohammadkwt
10 жыл бұрын
Roy Del Pozo i would say expect the unexpected from ford i mean they build & used secretly their trucks with aluminum alloy which is gonna be on the new f-150 .
@Kirakat
9 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have any of the three, I'm a Ford guy, grew up with a mustang and a f150 in the family the whole time. Turned 18, I owned two f150's two 70's mustangs, and a crown vic, I'm buying a 99-04 F350 soon, But the point is, I'm a Die hard ford fan, If I have a choice, It'll most likely be ford, BUT, I have to say, Chevy and dodge both have great options for all that Ford has to offer, Only thing that Chevy can't handle with the other two is the Viper and the GT's. Not mustang gt's the Real GT's. Yeah They have Vette's But stock to stock Viper and the Gt's are out gunning the vettes.
@miketovar1107
8 жыл бұрын
My question is why is the Ford pulling a different 5th wheel than the Dodge and Chevy. In the video they showed the Crusade Touring Edition with the weight of 12057 lbs. I looked up the Specifications on the Montana High Country that the Video has the Ford pulling and it's weight came in at 9970 lbs. So why is there a difference of 2087 lbs done in this competition. If numbers don't lie in my Opinion Dodge came in 1st and Chevy 2nd they were pulling more weight.
@paparagnarok4224
8 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is attention to detail. I also noticed that they had two different Fords, a maroon one and the blue one that they featured in the video. I'd like to know why Ford brought 2 trucks and only showed one.
@jeffbielema4039
8 жыл бұрын
I Absolutely Agree... I did the research on the 5th wheels also. numbers don't lie. but these guys are ford bought ... even with a bigger truck it can't compete with the Ram sorry to all the ford guys but facts are fact and truth is truth.
@Matortator
8 жыл бұрын
you realize they show 2 different Chevy's right?
@dennisbay5820
8 жыл бұрын
If you look at the specs on all Montana's there are 6 models that meet or weigh more.. They don't say what model it is.. so don't know...
@leje-zj4dr
8 жыл бұрын
The bigger problem is that they referred to GVWR, which is the upper bound, not the weight of the trailer. They would have needed to put a lot of weight in the trailer to hit 12k
@Magolorfan26
9 жыл бұрын
For any GMC Sierra 3500 fans, the Sierra is just a rebadged Silverado, unless you get the Denali package on the Sierra. Also, the Denali Package means less towing capacity for the Sierra 3500.
@kawasakirider29
9 жыл бұрын
These Chevy and ram fan boys can never accept that ford won. I'm a ford guy for life, but the Chevy and the ram both look better and have better interiors than the ford. But it all comes down to what the truck can actually do. And the ford did have a 160 pound disadvantage. Nothing important, but still. Just accept that ford won on towing.
@legitimatecracker4940
9 жыл бұрын
I accept
@legitimatecracker4940
9 жыл бұрын
Prius still suck though
@kawasakirider29
9 жыл бұрын
Yay! First one I've seen on here
@joshs6405
8 жыл бұрын
+kawasakirider29 I accept the fact that the Ford beat this. But why the different trailer? idk. And remember FMC organized all this...just saying. I sense a bit of bias...
@1stGenDsmTuner
9 жыл бұрын
You guys should do some long term testing towing.... then you could deal with those wonderful powerchoke problems like leaky radiator end tanks.
@OG-Malinali
8 жыл бұрын
I've always loved the sound of a Ram
@7.3psd_mafia75
8 жыл бұрын
rams suck
@jacobpritchard812
8 жыл бұрын
You can't even drive
@OG-Malinali
8 жыл бұрын
you guys need a life
@LuisSanchez-dk7ne
7 жыл бұрын
Smurfy Loc get outa that gang shit. no fuckn use for it
@OG-Malinali
7 жыл бұрын
Luis Sanchez you're right I'm in the process bro little by little much love and Go Cowboys!!!
@ryanbothe4568
10 жыл бұрын
Fast don't mean anything when your truck is stranded beside the road. I know your not trying to tell me a ford diesel is more dependable than a Cummins diesel, and I'm not biased I've owned 2 F250's. The Ram will get you from point A to point B without worrying if motor will fly apart in the process. 2011 to 2014 scorpion still has had lots of problems, so many Ford doesn't want to warranty them.
@Game_with_RJ
10 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know where your facts come with all the Scorpion problems and the supposed warranty stuff. Can you actually provide facts to your statement? I assume not. I know a lot of people with 6.7 Powerstrokes that have had nothing but problem free miles. I few are over 100k with no issue's whatsoever either. I'm not arguing that the Scorpion is as reliable as the Cummins, but it is a huge improvement from the 6.0 and 6.4.
@jsmith6589
9 жыл бұрын
Chance Lundgren All you have to do is search youtube for ford 6.7 problems
@bwspyder1
10 жыл бұрын
wish you would have showed us the weight sticker on the fords trailer.
@Stonemasters11
10 жыл бұрын
Why did they not mention it? Simple, because there wasn't a difference like everyone wants to believe. If you noticed that obvious difference you think off camera they didn't as well? If there was really a difference they would have likely discussed that, obviously it was unimportant because there was none.
@bwspyder1
10 жыл бұрын
trailer was way smaller. thats why.
@lrizo3841
10 жыл бұрын
bwspyder1 typical Ford fanboys
@kylehandely2746
10 жыл бұрын
Micah Watts There was no difference... You are a fool Micah!! as I said before, this video was a ford promo, meaning there truck had to win at all cost. I'm willing to bet they filled the water tanks on the Chevy and Dodge!! Fuckin ford, wast of metal!!! Chevy kills both in real word tests! and hatters go. lol
@gilbertnadeau7181
10 жыл бұрын
Kyle Handely, they already tested the 14 Ram against the 15 Chevy at the Ike tunnel and the Chevy was slower. The Ford should have been faster like they said because of the new engine. They showed the trailer weight at the beginning of the video and they were all about 12,000 pounds dry. The draw back of the Ford are obvious, C channel frame and a cheap interior. If you don't mind that then the Ford will suit you fine. If you want something in between, then get the Ram. If your a Bow Tie fan then then get a Chevy or a GMC.
@kc5077
10 жыл бұрын
Great video. The Chevy and Dodge can tilt and telescope their steerwheels but it's 2 separate levers unlike 1 lever in the Ford.
@RhinoXpress
9 жыл бұрын
well ford just redesigned its super duty from the ground up for 2017. so I expect it to be even better than the outgoing model. the interior has been greatly revamped so that will finally quiet the TFL guys up about the hard plastic interior trim that they keep whining about with the super duty every time the test it.. I honestly don't mind the hard plastic trim on the dash and upper part of the doors, because it's durable. going all leather this and leather that isn't going to hold up nearly as well in the long run as hard plastic will. I have an 2005 f-150 and it's hard plastic dash and door trim as held up for 10 years fine esp in this harsh florida sun where the strong uv rays down here can eat up an interior of a car in no time. I couldn't have said the same if it was all leather.
@AlicesWondereland
7 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it. But those trailers are 10K lbs or just under. Unloaded. The 12K number is the GV weight. If you look at the yellow sticker just to the right of where, Whats-his-name pointed to, you'll see it.
@Devyn87
10 жыл бұрын
Chevy is the best. Interior is fantastic and they know how to actually give you decent fuel efficiency.
@stevenmemez2293
10 жыл бұрын
They know how to kill people with ignition switches. That's all they know how to do.
@coureurdebois
10 жыл бұрын
steven memez and the only recorded deaths were people who were drunk, speeding, or reckless driving IN all the "supposed" cases... mr fanboy
@loganp7043
10 жыл бұрын
No need to try and make chevy the best truck but sadly it's not and never will be
@arbiter1
10 жыл бұрын
steven memez its called people that can't fucking drive that die. just cause ignition shuts off doesn't mean can't steer the car or use the brakes still,
@230910bella
9 жыл бұрын
arbiter1 Actually, ues it does mean they can't steer. Because the steering wheel locks, and if you have electric brakes, you're screwed there too. It happened to my dads 2010 Cobalt. I was in the car with him
@Complex_51
9 жыл бұрын
But the think with the interior is when you have a truck like these they are meant for Landscaping, Construction and so on. If you have sharp tools and stuff like that. If you have stitching and leather it will rip and tear. Now if you have plastic, yes it will scratch and marks but its cheaper and easier to replace. My view on it is that plastic is better for trucks like that.
@Skankhunt98745
10 жыл бұрын
Best overall truck is gm sure it was the slowest how ever it's a fact that it's the most reliable ram trucks have electrical and transmissions problems and the fords can never get there desiel motors right the only good powerstroke was the 7.3
@CarsandGuitars100
10 жыл бұрын
This is actually quite accurate. Ford's had nothing but shit rolling off the line since the mid 2000's with the 6.0 and 6.4's. They finally got something sort of right with the 6.7 Scorpion. That's that. Cummins has always had a bulletproof powerplant, but since they completely screwed the formula up by installing a crappy trans and cab to it, that's where it ended for me. GM's been using proven powerplants in their HD Series trucks; how long has GM been using the Isuzu 6.6? Since 2001, they didn't need to completely overhaul the damn design 30 flippin' times to try to get it right. LBY, LBZ, and LMM, so far the only revisions to the same 6.6 displacement and include; different cooling systems, fan designs, turbo, and injection method. Isuzu and Cummins have their shit figured out, as for Ford; they kind of need to figure their sales adages and warranty gaffs out soon, or more people will leave your shit behind for good.
@brendanfreeman32
9 жыл бұрын
I agree and ford does this crap were the trailers are different weights but I really like the front end of the ram and also GO CHEVY. IT is the best and hopefully always will be.
@vincentrobinson8056
9 жыл бұрын
1#[]2015 Dodge Ram 3500-Dually has 385HP-865TQ Tow-30'000 pounds 2#[]2015 Ford F-350-Dually has 440HP-860TQ Tow-26'500 3#[]2015 Chevy Silverado 3500HD-Dually has 397HP-765TQ Tow-23'200!!!!!!!!!!
@hiramabifffromsirius146
9 жыл бұрын
Dodge is a joke, best interior with the loudest fan on the planet. No amount of creature comfort will save your ears from that banshee whine! It's 5 times louder than the engine, and that constant shifting, for how many years now??? The Chevy is a boat, not a truck. The Fords all have the same thing in common, you're constantly looking back to see if your load is still there!?! That feels like winning.
@1guyin10
10 жыл бұрын
If you want to beat Ford in the truck market you better really have your act together. They really stepped it up with these new trucks. Have to agree with TFLT about the interiors though. Not that any of them are bad, but I think Ford could do a bit more with theirs.
@ELDOUBLES
10 жыл бұрын
Powerstroke all day everyday.
@mathewmobley530
7 жыл бұрын
i have the 2016 gmc 3500hd and it has telescoping steering wheel i thought it didn't but then i found the lever
@Nicksterzone
8 жыл бұрын
Should have used just one trailer for a more exact weight test.
@Nicksterzone
8 жыл бұрын
+Logan Anderson Not really. 5th wheels are easy and these trucks have cameras and crap for hooking up. But one trailer makes the test even weight and no different variables.
@wvcorvetteman
10 жыл бұрын
Let me first say welcome to WV guys!!! I actually mentioned this stretch of road several months back when you guys started the Ike Gauntlet. I tow on this hill quite often. Currently my tow rig is a 2011 F-250 6.7 PSD with 117,000 miles. I actually lost an injector on this hill last year towing a diesel pump. Overall my 6.7 PSD was trouble free till it got about 96,000 miles. Im sure out west there are alot bigger hills but around here this is the steep one.I wish they would max them out in towing capacity! Why have a test where you tow only half the rated load. I realize you guys have not control over it.
@hershy314
10 жыл бұрын
So many butt hurt people commenting.
@thekoolkidsrock
8 жыл бұрын
all diesel trucks rock. I hate seeing people hating on people because of the truck they drive.
@230910bella
9 жыл бұрын
If you keep your Cummins at the 1500 RPM where it gets its peak torque, it would be smooth and easy. The other two get their peak torque at higher RPMs so of course they are gonna do it better when you revv the shit out of them
@imthestrangler123
9 жыл бұрын
Cummins gets peak torque (865 lb-ft) at 1,700 RPM
@Beastb15
9 жыл бұрын
and Powerstroke gets its peak torque at 1,600 RPM. Do any of you people actually look at the specs you guys spew before you post them, or do you just pull this shit out of your ass?
@imthestrangler123
9 жыл бұрын
Beastb15 Yeah I knew, I was just correcting him
@Beastb15
9 жыл бұрын
Sean Quaid No no, not you. Everyone else on here that spews random numbers as "fact" that they heard from their buddy's uncle
@imthestrangler123
9 жыл бұрын
Beastb15 Oh, ok
@snakyjake1
9 жыл бұрын
I would like to know what the ride quality was like for long hauling hours: Mirrors, bakes, noise, steering, bumps, sway, suspension, views from the windows (wide, obstructed, etc). I'd also like to know what the ride is like with weight in the bed (truck camper, rock, dirt, wood, etc)?
@northerntimberoutdoors9319
10 жыл бұрын
Calm down there is enough butt hurt to go around lol GO FORD!!!
@taylorpelletier396
10 жыл бұрын
I own a king ranch and actually i'm very happy to have the hard plastic interior because i work construction and its very easy to clean the inside
@Spawn223311
10 жыл бұрын
the only problem with ram is that noise haha but in terms of power and interior, its the best choice. But if i where to need and could buy one of them, id choose the most functional one, The Ford! and it even had a little more weight haha
@Mohammadkwt
10 жыл бұрын
that was the cooling fan but still it should not be heard as that loud .
@Stonemasters11
10 жыл бұрын
That's funny, these autistic gasoline freaks drove the socks off the GM and Ford and could not duplicate that obnoxious whine from the cooling fan.
@Stonemasters11
10 жыл бұрын
***** You're something else? You quite being biased, I'd buy either truck but yes I'm a Blue Oval guy. Open your ears buddy it's still ringing from the whine from the ram...For crying out loud , you're searching for a sound. The Ford according to Roman and Nathan is quieter than even the Chevy. If you can here the cooling fan whining over the Beauty of the Cummins with the windows rolled up, that's LOUD...Don't reply with nonsense
@mentap4163
10 жыл бұрын
Micah Watts Frank needs to get his ears checked...
@robbiefrentz9427
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Ram and it’s nice to know there all about the same. Currently i own a 1996 F350 and i love it i call her bessie
@israel2035
10 жыл бұрын
RAM ALL DAY
@ih1206
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison there fellas. I won't start on a brand war because nobody wins, but I have to say, that Ford was impressive, and the Ram still looks badass.
@NyanMinez
8 жыл бұрын
Wait the ford won!?!? What a surprise!
@7.3psd_mafia75
8 жыл бұрын
ford are the best
@logancurry3835
7 жыл бұрын
only reason the ford won is that secondary turbo
@adriancampos382
7 жыл бұрын
Logan Curry it's single turbo , the 6.4 powerstroke was twin
@troymason8738
7 жыл бұрын
Ford biased obviously lol
@kevinfromsales6842
7 жыл бұрын
My dad owned a 2015 ford f350 with a long box and dually rear tires. I had to borrow it from him once when my car was in the shop. I was in shock when i put my foot down. That 6.7 turbo diesel has unbelievable power. I have a new chevy malibu and there is not a doubt in my mind that my dads 4 ton diesel truck is much faster.
@ryanbothe4568
10 жыл бұрын
Ram has the best all around truck in looks & performance.
@hershy314
10 жыл бұрын
and yet couldn't beat the Ford in the towing test.
@evans4you
10 жыл бұрын
hershy314 afew seconds doesn't really matter
@hershy314
10 жыл бұрын
actually a few seconds can mean a lot.....just sayin
@northerntimberoutdoors9319
10 жыл бұрын
Evans Cheruiyot It does, it will get some person to decide to spend his 70 grand on that brand because it is more capable. People love numbers and the manufacturer with the best numbers will probably sell the most.
@evans4you
10 жыл бұрын
Wisconsin Wildman numbers count but not racing ones up an incline, not even the towing ones since they all can pretty much tow about the same, it will come down to how it makes the potential buyer feel when they test drive them plus the price.
@jmackinjersey1
8 жыл бұрын
All manufacturers do the same thing when comparing vehicles. This case, the Ford supplied a TOL KR, compared to a Laramie and Silverado LT. Of course Dodge has their Limited, and Chevy has their High Country trim levels, which give a few more features, like tilt/telescope wheels etc.
@jetskier456
10 жыл бұрын
They would have all Been within 5 seconds if ford didn't cheat with the Montana instead of the heavier crusader.
@stevemccollum2011
10 жыл бұрын
The weights were the same, I am not sure why they used different trailers
@highjix
10 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they said they where all comparable weight.
@themechanic345
10 жыл бұрын
The lightest 5th wheel hitch Montana camper is 11750lbs, if that's what they even had on the Ford. Add in the 160lbs from the Ford rep and that's 11910, only about 100lbs off from the other two, IF that's even the model of camper the Ford was hauling. Do you really think that 100lb difference would have affected the times this much? Or do you think it was that the Chevy has 100ft-lb less torque and the Dodge has less torque and a lot less horsepower?
@dtc989
8 жыл бұрын
I like different variations of all the trucks. They're American made. Somebody previously had mentioned different engines. From personal experience, I like the Ford inline-6 300 (4.9l). It has a decent bit of low end torque and performs well. I have always had good luck with it. I realize it isn't diesel, but quite often you need a reliable truck that doesn't need the requirements of an HD diesel. The 300 fits that slot nicely.
@AuthorityGaming1
10 жыл бұрын
*Ford* FTW Like Always!
@stevenmemez2293
10 жыл бұрын
yup
@nathanhammack3055
10 жыл бұрын
Go ford
@AuthorityGaming1
10 жыл бұрын
Yep
@rongrisak4683
9 жыл бұрын
I have owned all three the last 20 years. Currently in the Ram 3500.Great Truck. The Test Should have been done with the same Fith-Wheel, The Aerodynamics very greatly Brand To Brand.
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