i don't think people understan how the brp turbo actually work unless you are 7000 feet above sea level is doesn't really kick in
@PeterTistaken
3 жыл бұрын
not particularly true, its always kicking in, but its at 7000ft where it still makes the same power where as a naturally aspirated will drop off as the air is less dense!
@gfkk2131
3 жыл бұрын
Need to do a deep snow hill comparison
@two_toned_rooster
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh the “not worth it” comments really get me, like the non turbo is 18k (in Canada) to start with, they ain’t worth it either. L E T P E O P L E E N J O Y T H I N G S 🙌
@stevenweeks275
3 жыл бұрын
Who you buying yours from? I got my 2020.5 nom turbo last spring for 14500$ out the door at Martian motor sports....
@two_toned_rooster
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenweeks275I choked last year but snowchecking at Stojans this year. I know they always have deals on in March and you can get a great deal if you “know a guy”, but my comment was from December when a 2021 sp 850 with a 154 2.5” started at $15500, add on all their fees (call it $1000ish) and 12% tax (because I’m in bc) and your at $18,460 out the door.
@stevenweeks275
3 жыл бұрын
@@two_toned_rooster that sucks, I didn’t know anyone and wasn’t even looking. I was in buying oil, it that still seems like a lot more then around here. I’ll have to look into it more
@two_toned_rooster
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenweeks275 yeah stojans is usually not bad but trailblazin is right by my house and they literally never go below the msrp, even on 2 year old stock. I have saved over 4K on a new dirt bike just by coming to Edmonton.
@congaming98
3 жыл бұрын
It may not look like a lot there but at 15k feet the turbo sled will still be pulling strong where the naturally aspirated will have lost a considerable amount of power
@Fatonzzz
3 жыл бұрын
At what elevation was this filmed?
@extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084
3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@tackdriverCA
3 жыл бұрын
That moment you realize spending the extra 4 k on a turbo model was stupid 😂👌
@greglarson4253
3 жыл бұрын
Well if you go up in elevation a lot it might not be
@jacobnaeyaert9417
3 жыл бұрын
Go to 10,000ft and ride one ...you'll understand.
@rigging1377
3 жыл бұрын
I want to see it vs a sidewinder.
@queasyislander0274
3 жыл бұрын
Sidewinder eats skidoo
@peytonjob5837
3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kjayclowers12
3 жыл бұрын
That's why when you go out west or in the UP or Canada everyone is on Backcountrys and cats
@jordancaleb5790
3 жыл бұрын
for the 2 strokes it only puts you at the advertised 165HP, basically undoes the 30HP elevation penalty
@gumballer133
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a handful of sleds in the backcountry with aftermarket Turbos. I'm up in the air on the reliability of them.
@jordancaleb5790
3 жыл бұрын
@@gumballer133 i think the new 850 is probably the best bet since they designed it to be more reliable, but still im on the fence as well, thats why i went with yamahas 998 genesis. I hear guys up in Revelstoke talking about being on their second or third engine, still under warranty. My yamaha manual says to "check" the valves at 40,000km 👍👍👍👍😝
@RavingBob
3 жыл бұрын
Stock 850’s are plenty powerful. Honestly turbos are unnecessary, I can say that because I have a 16 800r @10psi of boost and it’s just too much. I doesn’t do anything more crazy than a normal machine can
@boser1212
3 жыл бұрын
This isn’t at elevation so the skidoo turbo isn’t even making boost
@tristenkiesow4061
3 жыл бұрын
What?
@MaxCaissie
3 жыл бұрын
@@tristenkiesow4061 the power difference is only at high elevation
@tristenkiesow4061
3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxCaissie well ig that makes sense but a turbo on a two stroke doesn't work the best. So I'm assuming that it just makes more power and higher elevation than an non turbo sled but wouldn't the turbo sled still make boost at lower elevation Or does the turbo not make power at all at lower elevation?
@sfgiantsfan9136
3 жыл бұрын
@@tristenkiesow4061 people turbocharge two stroke all the time. Heck even on snowmobiles. They work just fine, carburated or fuel injected. This turbo was only built to keep the 165hp at 10,000 elevation, it does build boost at low elevation it just doesn’t make more hp than 165
@tristenkiesow4061
3 жыл бұрын
@@sfgiantsfan9136 thats what I thought, I was sure tho
@SLEDNEXX
3 жыл бұрын
yup that can sounds stock as hell 😂
@gentilejoshsaved1646
3 жыл бұрын
A can is stock youngin.
@heybubbah
3 жыл бұрын
Fart cans don't make ya go faster
@ultrazls1
3 жыл бұрын
Cans that typically cost hp 9 times out of ten
@imortaliz
3 жыл бұрын
fartcans often make you loose hp because 2 strokes want some backpreassure
@sfgiantsfan9136
3 жыл бұрын
@@imortaliz that’s what the pipe is for. Cans normally don’t lose hp, some do, it’s all in the diameter of the pipe.
@edwardabrahamiii3742
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the turbo was gone smoke the shit out of the naturally aspirated 850 ski-doo should try make twin pipes for there 850
@anglegrinderlover994
3 жыл бұрын
At over 6,000 feet above sea level it would've happened
@edwardabrahamiii3742
3 жыл бұрын
@@anglegrinderlover994 yea i understand the way 2 strokes work and how they need to breath but thats why theres turbos for them 850s to keep 165hp way up in the high heavens fucken covid has made it to my small village here in Alaska were on lockdown now bullshit
@anglegrinderlover994
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardabrahamiii3742 even four strokes
@alex_truckingtv1263
3 жыл бұрын
there both make 165 hp the turbo don't give you more power it design to maintain 165 hp when you go above 7000 ft to make up for the lost in hp due to thin air so unless yo go above 7000 ft there is to point in getting this 4 k option
@handyeel4544
3 жыл бұрын
But you get pretty easily 210hp
@drewhartl3943
2 жыл бұрын
They kick in at anything above sea level and standard temperature, you only feel it at 3000 plus
@mike420fan
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so iffy on the turbo. Never had one on a sled 🤷♂️ everyone saying turbo more issues.
@tomengman
3 жыл бұрын
Not hearing a lot of talk about serious issues on the OEM turbo 850, but still, I'd wait a year or two as with any new system/motor/setup. Man have I've been burned from jumping on the bandwagon too soon before.. But then again I mean from 11-15 Polaris machines actually seemed to hold upp BETTER with a turbo (due to tolerances, heat spread, piston slap etc etc actually making more sense under boost). I bet a lot of people are really on the fence on this one, it's not exactly a cheap sled.. Especially for a first year setup.
@anglegrinderlover994
3 жыл бұрын
The turbo is only usefull at high altitudes because the air is thinner and the turbo sucks up more of it than an n/a version
@tomengman
3 жыл бұрын
@@anglegrinderlover994 It can be flashed to give boost even at low altitude though, and while not exactly "useful" taking it to 200hp in the flatlands is possible and probably pretty fun.
@chadsheridan353
3 жыл бұрын
It was close until that turbo spooled up.
@christianquanbury7397
3 жыл бұрын
Are you dumb
@riderfast3444
3 жыл бұрын
The stock skidoo turbos do not put out as much power as everyone thinks I got one last year and sold it this year you are better off just putting a good turbo on a 850 the mtntk is a amazing turbo
@anglegrinderlover994
3 жыл бұрын
Of you are not above 6000 feet the turbo isnt usefull
@riderfast3444
3 жыл бұрын
@@anglegrinderlover994 this is not true. Yes The higher you are in altitude is yes where the turbos do shine but you still create boost even at low altitude. I always have turbos in my sleds I’m not saying the stock ones are bad they just don’t have as much boost where is if you buy an aftermarket one you can save yourself money in the long run and have more power
@riderfast3444
3 жыл бұрын
@@juhomannela2160 I understand that but most ppl think they are buying a sled that has crazy power and I am not saying it does not just better off spending the money on a better turbo. Yes the warrantee is nice but if you’re buying a turbo sled you obviously want power so all I’m saying is you’re better off putting an aftermarket turbo on any sled that you like
@alanwiese5917
3 жыл бұрын
They are only using the turbo to make up for power loss due to elevation basically what cat did on its four stroke your feeling the power it would have at sea level it's really not the ripper people where expecting atleast not stock
@warviking7647
3 жыл бұрын
What did cat do? The 1000cc 4-stroke turbo? The one YAMAHA makes For AC and themselfes?
@warviking7647
3 жыл бұрын
Til, you can't compare 2 stroke HP to 4 stroke HP eighter, a 4 stroke horse is more then a 2 stroke horse, but the 2 stroke comes on faster, Even tho the yamaha engine har almost no lag, it's still 4 stroke. And the ski doo turbo 850 doesent make anymore HP, so it's really not worth buying since turbos make your engine less reliable, but a 4 stroke can handle that og Buildt right, not a 2 stroke. But if you buy the NA 850 and mount a turbo you get around 200 HP i think, but remember your engine wont last as long, and 163 HP is plenty in a 2 stroke, right? Even tho a 280 hp sidewinder sound pretty funn. Ive had a rx-1 turbo 240, it didnt stopp wheeling until 150 kph(was a short track) funn to drive, but bether to walk when there was actualy some snow
@user-pw8bl3rm7s
3 жыл бұрын
Пфф... Да я на своей планете 5 их сделаю в эту горку
@pantera29palms
3 жыл бұрын
Toadmobiles...
@EthanAdey
3 жыл бұрын
LoL 😂
@drifter5682
3 жыл бұрын
The one without the turbo will last many years longer🤣
@dankgenetics9663
3 жыл бұрын
No way. Put both on equal terrain and let’s see the outcome. Absolutely no reason for this. Would be like lining up an Impreza to an sti and they tied. No fucking way.
@MrJokkoma
3 жыл бұрын
Yea a hill whit trampled tracks every where were a grandpa In a rocking chair could get up wasn't the best place to show how these sleds perform.
@Melonsareprettyyummy
3 жыл бұрын
What, there is so much wrong with this. They are on uneven ground, ones riding in powder and the other is on packed track marks, and going uphill. This in no way can be used as a comparison, its just flat out bs
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