IMO, as an owner of this vehicle, you need to carefully spec out the interior to get that "special" feeling. I have dark ash wood trim and it makes a huuuuuge difference. It completely changes the interior by almost entirely getting rid of the piano black, most importantly around the centre console. Literally never used the energizing refresh garbage. However, the massage function is AWESOME and I do like the fragrance (just turn the intensity down). Still smells fresh as fuck after about 8 months of ownership. It's marketed in a lame way but when you live with it everyday, it's awesome. One thing that had huge appeal to us was the fact that you get a convertible vibe with the hard top design. With the sunroof open and the pillar-less windows down, this thing feels like an SL. The heated air scarf extends your windows down season by a month or so. It's interesting to hear you guys discuss who is buying this car, and why one might do so. I'm 32 years old and, while I admit this is quasi-old man spec, my wife and I bought (leased) this car because it really does feel special to us. Having owned a number of 3 series and C class variations, this was such a massive step forward that it absolutely felt worth the extra cash. As someone who grew up with nothing but a used car in the drive way, the chance to jump into this car every day is an absolute dream. It's fast, it's comfy, and it has a presence to it. It's big. It's heavy. It feels that way under hard braking. But man....classy as fuck, quick in a straight line and full of tech. Good stuff.
@savagegeese
4 жыл бұрын
Great comment, I pinned it so people know the owners truth!
@TheUrbanEpicure
4 жыл бұрын
You can get the center console in all sorts of materials (glossy or matte, open-pore wood, metal, carbon fiber), and all of them look and feel better than the piano black. Feels like an oversight that this wasn't mentioned.
@marcoulibarri5744
4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Gurr please tell me you leased this car! And if you bought this car I hope you have a great warranty. This car us going to spend a lot of time in the shop after a few years
@Doubleyou115
4 жыл бұрын
@@marcoulibarri5744 oh dude, 100% leased.
@nick_k.6000
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Gurr You forgot to mention, this car can easily be mistaken for an S-coupe. I personally like the E-450 coupe, but great choice nonetheless!! Enjoy 👍🏻
@gureno19
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, genuinely refreshing to see someone discuss the mechanicals in-depth! I feel like the manufacturers barely speak about these things anymore... Subscribed!
@SilentServiceCode
4 жыл бұрын
Where's the captions
@james2042
4 жыл бұрын
Because their target audience really doesn't care (or could even be a deterrent for many buyers), and the few enthusiast who are truly into them figure this stuff out on their own anyways. Its the sad state of cars, and BMW's "the ultimate driving machine" motto is enough for the bulk of buyers thinking "oh, I want the best driving car so clearly its a BMW" and thats what they buy.
@robb3724
4 жыл бұрын
Gureno19, If you like this then watch the Savagegeese Dodge Demon video. It's a work of art.
@lewbear6738
4 жыл бұрын
savagegeese is the best reviewer on youtube because he actually discusses the mechanicals and the reliablility history of the brand
@ThomasNing
4 жыл бұрын
bro, at least with the next gen of mercs, I've seen quite a bit of marketing for the fancy mild-hybrid twin-charged system. Or maybe that's me being hit by targeted ads.
@La-yt1wr
4 жыл бұрын
22:00 LMAO you though nobody would see that 😂
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
Don't Jews hate German cars because of holocaust or something?
@jaydenjohner6901
4 жыл бұрын
For anyone who wants to know, it's a picture of an old white guy with, "Rich Old White Men" written underneath 😂
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
@@jaydenjohner6901 It's David Rockefeller.
@rekleif
4 жыл бұрын
Why care about the context when the real info is so easy to get. Mark did this justice, one of very, very few great reviews.
@joelbosso1331
4 жыл бұрын
"So when the snooty cat and the courageous dog with celebrity voices meet for the first time in reel three, that's when you'll see Mr. Goose's contribution to the film...Even a hummingbird couldn't catch Mark at work."
@glennlink7
4 жыл бұрын
I admire your ability to do an objective evaluation of this vehicle believing that you are a Miata person at heart
@dawgmanfat
4 жыл бұрын
16:55 dodge uses 25 y/o E class platform for new challengers, new E class platform gets compared to challenger lol, pure irony
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if all that aluminium makes no difference.
@dawgmanfat
4 жыл бұрын
JAnx01 all that money for R&D earned from daddys leasing their little girls CLAs, all for nothing
@popuptoaster
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair to the old E-class I have a 2000 E55 and it's platform is pretty good, it can still surprise many modern cars round the twisty bits despite it's lardy proportions.
@popuptoaster
4 жыл бұрын
@oahgfojsdljknsdlfw I get through tyres really fast at both ends. lol
@TheImperfectGuy
4 жыл бұрын
@Tim Winchester Yeah, let's be fair here It's 15 years old
@michaelkopysh1429
4 жыл бұрын
7:46 Jacks delivery of this information is perfect. He’s succinct and understandable while delivering enough technicality to make me feel like I learned something. Seriously, you guys are the best.
@charvakkarpe
4 жыл бұрын
Except for the continuous stream of condescending head nods.
@coovv685
4 жыл бұрын
Mercedes knows how to make beautiful cars, you know how to make beautiful introductions.
@53orion91
4 жыл бұрын
Aww
@sneff1052
4 жыл бұрын
53orion Good looking cars but awful looking interiors(The glossy plastic and too much silver)
@devongee1776
4 жыл бұрын
*Creeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaak!*
@devongee1776
4 жыл бұрын
@@sneff1052 at least it's usually optional. Gotta pay more to lose it however :/ I really like Audi but they ONLY do glossy black interiors..
@zhaoyangxie
4 жыл бұрын
You should see the new upcoming s class interior that’s not good looking
@joelcrow
2 ай бұрын
HOLY SHIT! I'm at 15 minutes into this video and the "no one else ever talks about this and how the hell did you guys get this engineering info" level of appreciation just keeps exploding in my head. There is NO ONE who has a review like this, no one! And it's amazing. Thank you!
@abcdLeeXY
4 жыл бұрын
Mo tech Mo problem -notorious mechanic
@mrubuntuking5257
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! kzitem.info/news/bejne/xKN9rqGBqJp-qYo
@carenthusiast6748
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrubuntuking5257 yee boris
@eventusvantos2770
4 жыл бұрын
Not true
@harrismi7
4 жыл бұрын
Volvo: Engine with a Turbocharger and a Supercharger Mercedes: Hold my beer
@zephead843
4 жыл бұрын
We also would have accepted, "Am I a joke to you?"
@speakingtruths4215
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Harris What’s up with the “hold my beer” crap? I mean that was funny in 2009.
@harrismi7
4 жыл бұрын
@@speakingtruths4215 Being trolled by an anonymous, faceless bot is now the highlight of my Monday.
@Oversight85
4 жыл бұрын
The T8 is a super/turbo/hybrid - seems comparable
@Warrior11117
4 жыл бұрын
Best car reviewer on KZitem
@-Wreckanize-
4 жыл бұрын
Mercedes: "We heard you like turbocharging, so we turbo'd your turbo so you can turbo while turbo-ing"
@sjwang40
4 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a meme I haven’t heard in a long time
@Fly2kill1
4 жыл бұрын
My perfect car. Plenty of power, beautiful, a good ride for my terrible back. And a good slightly used value. And a front lift to get up my driveway.
@jdmstreetfighters9978
4 жыл бұрын
I love the E53 because of the feeling that it gives you. It is pure luxury and I don't care if it doesn't accelerate as quickly as other cars in it's class.
@TPACFILMS
4 жыл бұрын
21:59 dont forget that the < > keys move one frame at a time
@bobkermit3452
4 жыл бұрын
That audio package costs more than my entire car.
@nelzelpher2088
4 жыл бұрын
My 2001 Chevy prizm costed me just over 1k, runs like a dream at 210k Miles.
@augustortiz
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine your local mechanic trying to fix this thing LOL.
@chocolatewheelchair
4 жыл бұрын
If they specialize in imports it’s not that crazy. There is no reason to go to a local mechanic because you’ll be getting it services at the dealer. Unless you’re just a professional at making bad decisions.
@ThePhazdOne
4 жыл бұрын
@@chocolatewheelchair and a professional at wasting your own money on unnecessary "repairs" from the dealer
@chocolatewheelchair
4 жыл бұрын
AchillesPhazd my brother, when you get this car it’s all free for the lease. Except tires, wiper blades and oil changes.
@raulio81
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being rich.
@Hercegovac.1
4 жыл бұрын
Augusto O.R if you can buy this then you’re going to Mercedes dealer😀
@vishnu36s81
4 жыл бұрын
The most detailed reviewer in KZitem... from under chassis, to speakers to plactic material to engine mechanism involved everything is well covered and explained.... Good job and keep going @savagegeese
@elusivellama
4 жыл бұрын
I'd take the LC500 over this crazy complicated 'mild' hybrid nightmare mish-mash of parts. You can count on the Lexus to make glorious V8 noises and deliver smooth effortless acceleration on just oil changes and basic maintenance, while the E53 will literally fall apart after the lease is over.
@rashodm7129
4 жыл бұрын
LC500 and this car isnt in the same segment. The S class coupe is and the S Coupe is leagues ahead of the LC500
@dinobot_maximize
4 жыл бұрын
why does anyone have respect for german cars anymore. they used to make cars that lasted forever now theyre putting plastic cam shafts...
@machtschnell7452
4 жыл бұрын
That's like comparing Cheetos to foie gras.
@nvkulk
4 жыл бұрын
Macht Schnell equally bad for you
@timonxDlol
4 жыл бұрын
Would take the e53 over the lc500 for the infotainment alone...
@bassandtrebleclef
4 жыл бұрын
Your point about the difference of how car audio measures versus how it actually sounds is illuminating. Mercedes and Burmester market these systems as very high end, but the reality is that they're just very good. In our GLC, the Burmester stereo sounds on par with how our old xc90 sounded. That's high praise because both stereos sound good, but the Volvo's system was the base stereo and the Burmester in the GLC was an upgrade. It seems people are getting taken for what amounts to fancy speaker grills and a whole lot of marketing. Acura does this right with ELS and their Krell stereo option. The Krell option in the RLX sounds better than the Mark Levinson stereo in Lexus cars.
@moloono1
4 жыл бұрын
God, the production on this channel is breathtaking. That intro montage is amazing. This is why I’ve been spreading the word. Patreon is next.
@sir3612
4 жыл бұрын
mercedes is really just milking the hell out of the AMG brand
@thomasnew8606
4 жыл бұрын
like every Audi is "s type" and Lexus is "f type"
@mr.porkchop6377
4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasnew8606 *s line and f sport
@HiddenWen
4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Now 45 models also get the panamericana grill lol. This does two things; both of them bad. 1. The 63 owners will feel their grills are less exclusive. 2. People who dislike the panamericana grill now can't purchase the 45 model for the double bladed grill.
@ervin7178
4 жыл бұрын
I want an AMG branded FWD 2 liter diesel
@ryadhasanahmed5443
4 жыл бұрын
@@ervin7178 you can get that in Europe lmfao
@Smithy67
4 жыл бұрын
Love the Rich Old White Men subliminal message at 22:01
@mikealanzo
4 жыл бұрын
You managed to pause too? :) :) :)
@RaiderTheGhost
4 жыл бұрын
Savagegeese always with the trolling.
@GibbysGarage15
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikealanzo alternatively you can pause and scroll frame-by-frame by using the < or > keyboard buttons.
@mikezerker6925
4 жыл бұрын
It was hard to pause even playing at 0.25 speed!
@Foregrlz
6 ай бұрын
Wait , I'm old but BLACK!!! getting one CPO really soon 😅
@-DC-
4 жыл бұрын
Depreciation on these going to be epic !
@andyroid5028
4 жыл бұрын
It ALWAYS is with the big MB! *And by 'epic', you mean 'the worst'.*
@THATNI99AJOHN
4 жыл бұрын
2 years a fully optioned one will be under 50k .
@lowellglover1968
2 ай бұрын
@@THATNI99AJOHNI wish
@AKaufman
4 жыл бұрын
Best channel on KZitem for cars.
@slaykay47
4 жыл бұрын
Loved that close up of the tail light. Reminds me of the surface of the sun.
@Alen1000Pro
2 жыл бұрын
It's literally called stardust lights 😂
@kennthbennett7320
4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for mechanics.
@oumaniac
4 жыл бұрын
lol...no kidding
@tylerbetthauser7647
4 жыл бұрын
This is why you only take a Merc to the dealership. Their techs are extremely competent and have access to the engineers who designed the vehicle.
@badlydrawncars6460
4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbetthauser7647 No, you take it to an Independent specialist.
@MrCarGuy
4 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbetthauser7647 "Have access to the engineers who designed the vehicle." Uhh, no. But they do occasionally fly master technicians over to educate them.
@AG-jh1ky
4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for owners after warranty runs out. Just lease and enjoy
@joefattal7592
4 жыл бұрын
This E class is so beautifully proportioned and one of the nicest Current Benz cars available. Love it.
@Geordo1960
4 жыл бұрын
I really like your matter of fact and down to earth type car reviews. I also really enjoy it when you demonstrate with the car what you are talking about. The musical lead-in was very nice and pleasant to listen to, and the cinematography is all spot on. Good job guys!
@andyroid5028
4 жыл бұрын
*Shown below is a 'quick data table' that predicts the depreciation (yearly depreciation values are depicted, with the exception of entry #2's one-month depreciation, as is further explained below) of this brand new, $97k MB car, 8 years from now, May 2020:* NOTE: the data/values shown below is/are entirely speculative, however this data IS loosely based off of historical/factual data of other similarly specced vehicles. *SALE PRICE or* *BOOK VALUE Date Description* $97,000 - May, 2020 (Bought new from Dealer) $85,000 - June, 2020 (Sold used to a private/individual buyer.) Notice the 'almost immediate' $12,000 'discount' the buyer enjoys because the car now has been driven about 1000 miles since the day its original owner purchased it from the dealer. $62,000 - May, 2021 (Stated book value) $44,000 - May, 2022 (Stated book value) $29,000 - May, 2023 (Stated book value) $21,000 - May, 2024 (Stated book value) $17,000 - May, 2025 (Stated book value) $13,000 - May, 2026 (Stated book value) $10,000 - May, 2027 (Stated book value) $2,500 - May, 2028 (Sold used to a private/individual buyer). *Please note: the sharp decline in the 2028 depreciation is due to the fact that the car's computer (main cpu) is malfunctioning & according to Mercedes-Benz, must be replaced. Of course, this repair can ONLY be performed by a certified MB mechanic AND additionally this repair can ONLY occur at an authorized MB service center or MB Dealership that also services MB.*
@Desertfox92308
4 жыл бұрын
May 2028 Tyler Hoover enters the conversation! Lol
@Xenon0000000000001
4 жыл бұрын
That $97,000 is if you have every option going, which very few people are ever going to do. If you start at $75K to $80K for new, then the book values look more realistic.
@joeracer302
4 жыл бұрын
Well yea, that’s why these are just luxury purchases and best done on lease. You’re going to spend $ to drive this car, and you’re only going to spend this kind of $ if a) you have enough you don’t care and b) you’re not interested in using that $ to make more $ so you’re okay with the lost opportunity cost. Might as well minimize how much $ you burn while taking enjoying your luxury item and just lease it. If you want affordable or “smart” you probably aren’t the market for a near 6 figure luxury coupe.
@TunmisheOkeDeliverance
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeracer302 The way I see using a car. Lease it and enjoy your dollars for the lease period. Pretty much like renting a very nice apartment in New York or a hilltop house in Malibu.
@michaelv6870
3 жыл бұрын
If you can show me a 2017 AMG product for 15 % of it`s MSRP, you`re my hero. And I`m not talking about some beat up, flooded and non-maintained one. With less than 250,000 miles on it.
@zioo3117
4 жыл бұрын
When I drove the C63 four-door, I fell in love with that car. Tremendous driving car. Does everything well. Only reason I didn't buy it? The C8 Corvette.
@scott8919
4 жыл бұрын
21:30 everyone knows you hit 80.
@machtschnell7452
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, speed is easily calculated from RPM in gear.
@tallll70
4 жыл бұрын
but he is in Mexico
@ivanjovanovic362
4 жыл бұрын
@@tallll70 Yeah sure he is
@111danish111
4 жыл бұрын
@@tallll70 north / northwest Chicagoland.
@TinHatRanch
4 жыл бұрын
I️ can’t WAIT to buy this car for four grand in ten years!!
@garykong7597
4 жыл бұрын
More like 15-20 years lol, but yeah must be fun driving this baby
@akshaykumar241
4 жыл бұрын
And then you can look forward to spending 4 grand a month to keep it on the road
@TasteMyStinkholeAndLikeIt
3 жыл бұрын
It's barely worth that now
@akshaykumar241
3 жыл бұрын
@Jack njones there's a reason you don't really see Mercedes that are 10-15 years old on the road. The electronics is not that reason. If someone can't afford the car after 4 years depreciation they don't have the money for it
@riptiide9285
3 жыл бұрын
@@akshaykumar241 at the rate mercedes is going I'd rather buy these models in the future assuming I could afford it was new
@dmitry8340
4 жыл бұрын
16:18 SAVED!
@nlong8438
4 жыл бұрын
This episode legitimizes Jack as if he wasn't already, the master tech and the ultimate researcher.. this merc is absolutely out control in complexity, but I love it..., but I'm also terrified of it. I love the honesty of the future maintenance of the vehicle.. good luck 2nd/3rd owners Jack clearly shows that he does the research on the vehicle and remains bias free, giving an honest review of the vehicle as you both do... by far the best auto channel out there..
@waterzap99
2 жыл бұрын
One of the last and one of the most complex internal combustion Mercedes ever made.
@k0zzu21
Жыл бұрын
The engine is turning out to be very reliable. Nothing really good wrong with them.
@miamitten1123
4 жыл бұрын
What happened to Tech Wednesday? Give it time and it will get an audience. Remember. It's not for the car enthusiast. It's for the tech people who may not know your channel but may stumble across your Tech Wednesday video. P.s. Glad you did an E-Class coupe video. Overlooked car considering there is a more 'modern' C-Lass coupe with similar looks but cheaper price.
@ansonbrik7329
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that April fool?
@reaver9
4 жыл бұрын
Guys you do one of the best reviews out there! Tried E53 sedan the other day, felt synthetic but also a bit special due to enormous torque but ultimately too soft and bland. My conclusion? Got a used E63 and put away a chunk of funds for potential repairs, the thrill is there believe me!
@fogdood6868
4 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing review, you went in-depth of everything without bias. All the positives and negatives of the interior, the mechanicals are explained well, and the driving feel is put into words that any driving enthusiast would understand. The only thing left I'd like to see is Turbowski.
@animalmother4
4 жыл бұрын
Turbowski is gone man, and he added nothing to the conversation other than being a grumpy nancy.
@AsherPR011
4 жыл бұрын
@@animalmother4 Glad someone else feels the same way.
@bobbowie9350
4 жыл бұрын
Without bias? Excusesgeese doesn't tell like it is. He always says "This is a car for some people ..." Nonsense
@sooperman12
4 жыл бұрын
"It reeeeeks!" Had me LOL!
@moloono1
4 жыл бұрын
sooperman12 That face he makes when the accompanying tune plays had me 💀
@nexushexus4365
4 жыл бұрын
I HATE synthetic smells
@jonathoncgable9172
4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you review the c43 and compare it to the engineering of the E53. Very curious to see what elements of the suspension change when you move up one class.
@Oversight85
4 жыл бұрын
All I could think of during this whole review - Just get an E43!
@v12-s65
Жыл бұрын
@@Oversight85 there is no e43 coupé. The 53 drivetrain is better, but not faster.
@titane22
Жыл бұрын
As an owner of this vehicle (EU spec, i.e. no perfume difuser and no sport exaust system), your review is PERFECT! (b.t.w, I got the carbon interior: much nicer)
@andyroid5028
4 жыл бұрын
I SWEAR - THE MODERN MERCEDES-BENZ IS THE NEW 'BOAT'. YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT OLD BOAT COMMENT? It goes something like this: *_"What are the two greatest moments in a boater's life? The first is when he buys his first boat. The second? The day he sells it"._*
@Corwin74
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree about the interior, it looks 90% the same as my wife's 2019 C Class but for double the money!
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
All Mercedes have very similar interiors. Has been like that for 6-7 years. When introduced, people liked them very much and saw this as a plus.
@tmanepic
4 жыл бұрын
It's like 20 grand more, not double the money.
@leviathan5207
4 жыл бұрын
you can get that interior in an a class these days. like with about 90% of german cars going up in the model range feels more like getting a different trim for the interior rather than going up a whole segment.
@Shant2
4 жыл бұрын
But C class interior is not same design
@JohnGuidetti751
4 жыл бұрын
Your paying the premium for the engine like in the c class the c63 will cost way more than a base c300
@charlesdr1981
4 жыл бұрын
Never mention lack of B pillar? I like this E Class,but for me C43 amg coupe, looks much more special.
@manuthpung0074
4 жыл бұрын
I think the lack of B pillar makes it look better and more exotic
@michaelralston9608
4 жыл бұрын
The benefit is in the improved visibility when looking over your shoulder. If it’s a quick check in traffic or a more thorough survey before/while you back up, it makes coupes feel much more nimble or manoeuvrable than their sedan counterparts as they either have the B-Pillar set farther back in relation to the front seats or none at all.
@campkira
4 жыл бұрын
they made alot of model so they are start new waiting list and get people in the door...
@986C
4 жыл бұрын
lol. Whut? That's some crazy talk there dude. The C43 is a C class, bad enough, and it's almost worse than that simply because it's evident if you own that car you couldn't afford a real AMG so you got the sexed up C class. Truly, I would take a Honda civic over that because it is honest about what it is and people wouldn't secretly think you're a wanabe baller.
@speakingtruths4215
4 жыл бұрын
Mercedes has mastered the art of overcharging for their vehicles, and this particular example is no exception. So has Porsche, but at least Porsche makes better cars than Mercedes does.
@thelarry383
4 жыл бұрын
It's the Stuttgart Tax
@Sparky58284
4 жыл бұрын
Except porsche is way more expensive to maintain and less reliable
@Ficon
4 жыл бұрын
Rabid Sparky Porsche ties Toyota for initial and long-term quality and reliability and value retention is comparable to Jeeps for 911s and best in class for Cayennes. Mercedes and AMG in particular loses value like a Dodge Caravan with mismatched wheels.
@conradhenninger2209
4 жыл бұрын
@@Ficon Tell that to a Porsche owner that has to replace an IMS bearing...i mean motor.
@TheImperfectGuy
4 жыл бұрын
@@conradhenninger2209 Is that still a problem on the newer boxer engines?
@YuriTereshyn
4 жыл бұрын
No B Pillars 😍
@ericdolby1622
4 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the old days. 55 chevy.
@savagegeese
4 жыл бұрын
My Chevy Cavalier Convetable doesnt have them either
@JAnx01
4 жыл бұрын
No B pillars definitely translates into more weight if they want to achieve the same structural rigidity as the door though.
@StephenClarkSAC
4 жыл бұрын
The whole idea of the hardtop coupe is style. Outside of a convertible, it is the best cruiser with the windows down.
@DynamiteT
Жыл бұрын
I've got a regular e220d coupe and it's absolutely wonderful.....rides beautifully great on fuel, quicker than youd think and looks far more expensive than it is. The E Class is the sweet spot of the range. I think an E400d suits the character of the vehiclr better than the E53 but so long as you avoid the E300 you're on to a winner
@parsasajedi2620
4 жыл бұрын
@savagegeese @ 9:20 You mention 'When you have an Aluminum piece, it saves weight, it's more rigid' which is not totally right. Although Al-alloys are lighter than materials such as cast Iron, or steel, its rigidity is far less than any of those. Typical Al-alloy used by German manufacturers is AW- 5754 with a Young Modulus in 69 GPa order, and UTS of 220 to 350 Mpa. While a typical cast iron used by the same manufacturers is GGG40, which displays a Young Modulus of 160 GPa and UTS in order of +400Mpa. Even aviation Al-alloys, regardless of heat treatment, cannot be compared to Ferrit alloys in terms of rigidity. Choosing aluminum in such applications is based upon ductility of the Al- thus ease of production, and lowered unsprung mass.
@Remenschneider
4 жыл бұрын
You can actually get some combined values which help you choose a material: - material density and Young's Modulus (required mass for desired stiffness) - material density and tensile strength (required mass for strength) If your refine that quotient depending on the load condition, you get specific values for that particular condition (e.g. required mass for stiffness in bending is material density divided by cube root of Young's Modulus). For your given example (less is better, units are weird so they can be normalized): - required mass for stiffness in bending would be about 0.66 for "Al" and 1.45 for "GG" - required mass for stiffness in compression/extension would be about 0.39 for "AW" and 0.49 for "GG" So in this case, the "AW" part could be made lighter at the same stiffness for those two load conditions.
@parsasajedi2620
4 жыл бұрын
@@Remenschneider Thank you for explanation. While what you said is true, the cross section - or geometry - must be specified for this in order to determine the tension in the part. If we negate that element- basically just boil down our argument to material selection for 'one specified' geometry- the only benefit we receive is the weight reduction but rigidity does not increase (( and as u mentioned, with a little adjustment it can be designed to be more rigid with less weight)). As such, the phrase used in the video, ' *Aluminum saves weight and is more rigid* ' could be laid out as ' Aluminum saves weight and allows for optimal design for higher rigidity to weight ratio' in my opinion.
@timonxDlol
4 жыл бұрын
I think this car is misunderstood here. Its just a sporty perfect daily. I was lucky enough to own an e class coupe of this generation (but with a smaller engine) and to me its the perfect daily, but that really shows over time and not in a short time review. The interior spec on that test car is horrible. The car feels 10 times more premium and comfy if it had the black open pore wood instead of piano black plastic and aluminum. The infotainment controls are perfect and you quickly get used to them. I understand how its confusing in the beginning, but i love that you can choose how you want to control it. It also makes perfect sense if you know older mercedes controls. They kept that and added new controls to it to give old and young customers all what they want. I heavily prefer that over having just one option like in new audis. Its always just effortless and comfy. The selfdriving assistants are also such a pleasure in traffic jams. I love the dumb massage seats, multibeam light, the burmeister (which sounded perfect to me). It just feels super composed. And I think its freaking beautiful. Sporty but elegant. But just don’t own it out of warranty. Too much tech to fail. And dont let them fool you into thinking its an amg. I personally cant think of a better daily driver.
@savanpanchal451
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. I test drove this - thinking it will be AMG - it is NOT. You don't get the BEST of the AMG that something like C63 would provide and then it also sacrifices comfort and luxury aspect of E Class. Ended up getting E450 Coupe for 70K almost fully loaded. Enough power and tons of luxury.
@sholaesq
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, you just elevated the art of auto review. This is nothing short of outstanding!!
@Nebo600
4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. I always appreciate your work 🙏🏾🙏🏾 Definitely the best car reviews on KZitem.
@onehungrypercent
4 жыл бұрын
A perfect intro for the car.
@shinasmohammed6410
4 жыл бұрын
I was watching your subaru wrx video and suddently this popped up in my recommendations .
@tamayozgokmen9596
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent honest reviews; I like the fact that you are very driver oriented and say what you think; unlike many other reviewers who are out there to praise every car! I became a follower.
@blazerboiz5996
4 жыл бұрын
everyone thinks mercedes are so exotic but after working at the dealer they are just mainstream cars that are 10x more expensive to maintain for a not that great driving experience unless u get the 63 AMG
@popuptoaster
4 жыл бұрын
Most stuff designed before about 1990 is pretty well engineered in my experience, quality went down in favour of gadgets and sales appeal after that.
@sid12345678910
4 жыл бұрын
This Review is Incredible. The Frequency response graphs are just incredible attention to detail. Thank you for this! For someone who is an audiophile and a car enthusiast I really appreciate the mechanical detail that went into this review, Please keep it up! I actually own a C43 AMG and I hate it. Steering is numb, ride is horrible, road noise is pathetic and the sound quality is garbage (same speakers as the E53). The Engine is alright but mines a 2016 so no pops or bangs. Overall just a very average car with a bad ride. I wish i bought the Jaguar XE S. You should defo consider reviewing it!
@billymania11
4 жыл бұрын
This is a Mercedes and this is state of the art. The car was designed for the thinking man who appreciates technology for technologies sake. Is this car for the ordinary person? No way. Most people won't understand the complexity and certainly won't budget for the upkeep of such a sophisticated automobile. I know what's going to happen to some of these. In 7 years, after passing through 3 owners, it will sit on Mel's used car lot and need a ton of maintenance. It's a sad way to end up but there you go.
@andyroid5028
4 жыл бұрын
*_Less is more._* Now that is a short, but sweet, 'saying' that would NEVER, EVER be spoken in or around a Mercedes-Benz factory, a Mercedes-Benz dealership, or a Mercedes-Benz service center. Complexity (especially in re: to a passenger car) just for the sake of being complex is... well, it's basically just the engineer's narcissism being showcased to (& eventually burdening) the targeted consumer. And I see that MB still has (and perhaps always will have) plenty of willing customers that love to be 'punished' financially, as well as to be punished later, via immense inconvenience/wasted time servicing/repairing these 'works of art & design'. Oh and yes, they'll want even MORE money.
@Origen17
4 жыл бұрын
Still the best (and most fun) auto review on KZitem. AoA is a close second, but a totally different animal.
@roebbiej
4 жыл бұрын
22:01 Rockefeller gives me the creeps man, next time use a rich old white dude who looks less like the devil incarnate for the picture.
@MetalMan73100
4 жыл бұрын
For pete´s sake, it´s not "burmeister", it´s Bur-MESTER!
@adamrozman
4 жыл бұрын
Uhhh that's what I heard him say at 1:32
@deborahdiperna2451
4 жыл бұрын
MetalMan73100 triggered.
@yi6958
3 жыл бұрын
How can you always do such a good job in every single video? The quality level is incomparable, and so it is always a joy to watch.
@jonathanmb8157
4 жыл бұрын
SG- Thanks for the honest, thorough, and quality review.
@dannoyes4493
4 жыл бұрын
A 4400# solution to a problem that doesn't exist... Well done, Dr. Goose & Co.
@dr-ok3sn
4 жыл бұрын
WHYYYYYYY THAT DUMB PIANO BLACK PLASTIC IN THE DASH, wood is a zero cost option🤦🏼♂️🙄
@FXIIBeaver
4 жыл бұрын
Except you have to buy the wood. Cut it, sand it, stain it, and then form fit it to the car without cracking but yes it is zero cost.
@dr-ok3sn
4 жыл бұрын
FXIIBeaver okay uhm and what has this to do with the fact that you get wood in some mercedes models for free instead of the piano plastic?🤔
@joeracer302
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a “zero cost option” meaning you can select black piano plastic, or pick the option of wood for $0. Yea, it does cost something overall, you’re spending 75k+ on a car, but the option of swapping to wood is a “zero cost option.”
@dash-ryan
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thorough and educational! Most of the gimmicks are optional and I'd probably stick with the base audio and avoid the audio navigation pain cause even the higher end Burmester in my AMG sucks compared to the Bowers and Wilkins in my other car. Now I know why it seems to noise cancel at times, thanks for that tid-bit. The performance exhaust on my AMG doesn't pop and burble all the time on queue, so not all the AMG's behave the same. Overall great review, thanks dude.
@joshmoran744
4 жыл бұрын
6:30 i couldn't help burst out laughing
@shahulusman3372
3 жыл бұрын
Using this video to train my staff to understand the 53 engine more now that we won't have the V8's to sell for a bit, thanks guys..big loyal watcher/ fan..subscribed here and on my personal :)
@SoldererOfFortune
4 жыл бұрын
I do not envy anyone wanting to work on this in 10 years. This looks so complicated and impossible to troubleshoot, people will shit the bed buying these used.
@andyroid5028
4 жыл бұрын
In 10 years, some teenager will buy it used for $3k & only put 100 miles on it after finding out the 'suddenly crippled' MB's computer system will 'only' cost $5000 to 'fix' - and it can ONLY be 'fixed' at the local certified MB stealership. What a joke.
@StephenClarkSAC
4 жыл бұрын
@@andyroid5028 I like the idea of a convertible E or S class cruiser as I fade into middle age. I'm going to save up for the purchase price and an equal maintenance reserve fund over the next 5-10 years. Maybe the 'plain' turbo of the E400 or the S550 would be the better long-term maintenance proposition?
@Javonn143_
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a product specialist at a Mercedes dealership in NJ. A lot of the people buying these cars are on the older side, and going over one of these cars with all the technology is pretty difficult. Most of the time I tell them to just connect their phone, and use CarPlay because the user interface of these are not intuitive whatsoever.
@nvkulk
4 жыл бұрын
Also 100k today 10k day after warranty ends
@confounded_feline
4 жыл бұрын
That engine set up is soo cool. Remarkable engineering
@RA-oy6bg
4 жыл бұрын
If it’s not “one man, one engine”, it’s not an AMG
@wiljohn2011
4 жыл бұрын
Tell it to AMG.
@WarriorsPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
@@wiljohn2011 Right and unfortunately all companies have to cut costs to stay afloat now a days. Bummer to read something like this about AMG changing how they go about doing their business now.
@hct7168
4 жыл бұрын
ricky v damn right... with this pandemic global car sales drop 90% ... duh...
@WarriorsPhoto
4 жыл бұрын
Harry Clausius 90%??? Seriously 😳 wow 🤩.
@vtv4373
4 жыл бұрын
Cry me a river
@_Makanko_
4 жыл бұрын
This car is perfect for the target demographic (though they might struggle with the tech). It's a nice GT touring car.
@uGotGot1618
4 жыл бұрын
Primarily, I like this car cuz it's the last vehicle Mercedes makes that hasn't had its styling ruined in what looks like a play at Asian markets
@honza2755
4 жыл бұрын
“Because it is not a real amg”
@dr-ok3sn
4 жыл бұрын
it’s not, the exact same engine with the same power is in the S500 and with less power in the S450
@honza2755
4 жыл бұрын
@@dr-ok3sn It is quote for the straight pipes fans
@M_773
4 жыл бұрын
I've been a few 43's, 53's, and 63's. The "fake AMG's" are fun and entertaining cars, but once you get into an E63S... Theres absolutely no going back. There is SUCH a huge difference in the overall experience, you can't explain it
@rondhole
4 жыл бұрын
Well, it is what German manufacturer are going. They go with mild hybrid to follow German government policy to reduce emission but keep the driving experience of classic Daimler, VW or BMW. BMW worked with Toyota since late 2006 as Diesel supplier forToyota cars in Europe. In exchange, BMW got hybrid tech form Toyota
@dr-ok3sn
4 жыл бұрын
Honza Štěpán guess you didn’t get that I basically confirmed that the 53 actually isn’t a „real amg“🤦🏼♂️
@ConLLee
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly feel the need to apologize for not finding this channel sooner. This shit is amazing
@AH-bm4ts
4 жыл бұрын
Nosediving resale value included as standard equipment. Thank you scottykilmer for teaching us.
@alanhorn8253
4 жыл бұрын
If someone is really worried about resale value, they are not spending close to $100k on any luxury sedan unless it is somehow a collectible item. They will all be "old" in a few years at which point they no longer appeal to most premium luxury buyers.
@michaelxu9910
4 жыл бұрын
Great content. Honestly most motoring "journalist" just seem like fanboys of every high end car they review. More like sales people than journalists and that's because of the shady relationship between car manufacturers and the motoring media. I like the fact that this channel points out the shit of these high-end cars in a way that actually matters to real buyers looking at these things and not just fan buying over how fast and good they feel to drive.
@kbcarroll
4 жыл бұрын
8:00 "when they went to the new w123 body style, which this is..." God, I wish.
@Amge55v8
4 жыл бұрын
We know what you meant Jack. But a Freudian slip nevertheless.
@e-one-off9870
4 жыл бұрын
I feel a ton smarter now! This is the best video yet!!
@johng.4959
4 жыл бұрын
Mercedes... the one car company that would change the wheel to another shape. (If they could). Needlessly complicated. But hey, some people equate a large user manual, abysmal interfaces, and high repair costs with a quality experience. A Mercedes engineer once said to me years ago... "I just don't get you American people.... Here (Germany)... these are Taxi cabs."
@abbashaider8668
4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to get an E or S class as a taxi
@Hachimichima
4 жыл бұрын
The reason they choose a Merc as a cab is just because they are reliable and comfortable. Everthing ends there. Most are classic with a small 200/220 cdi engines. The differences between a basic taxi and a nice equipped avantgarde V6 for example is huge.
@rhoma459
4 жыл бұрын
r/thathappened
@AIMBOTKATFISH
4 жыл бұрын
I like the no-banter intro for the engineer once you get under the car.
@YS_35
4 жыл бұрын
These superb reviews are such a godsend in the whole coronavirus mess!
@Multifireturtle
Жыл бұрын
You're only complaining about parts of this car that are *options* I have the e class coupe, spec'd properly, and it feels SO special on the inside
@donteadoss
4 жыл бұрын
$97,000 for an E class with a half-cocked AMG engine?! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiid ...
@nsbioy
4 жыл бұрын
Considering it is worth nothing after a few miles, it is even more expensive.
@raupenimmersatt6906
4 жыл бұрын
I love how cheap the cars are in the US. Here in Europe (Austria) youre about to spend about 150.000€ - Same price as a Porsche Turbo in the US.
@TheWarpYoshimitsu
4 жыл бұрын
So excited for this video. This used to be my dream car until I saw the 2021 G80.
@JamieMcgee518
4 жыл бұрын
That red stripe at the top of the steering wheel would bother me.
@Xenon0000000000001
4 жыл бұрын
You'll almost certainly be able to spec it without that, like you can on an A Class.
@scottsnothome5649
6 ай бұрын
I'm here 4 years later and was able to get one. An e450 coupe. This is now a car that doesn't exist anymore. It's a special, timeless, pilarless perfect coupe and the interior is perfection. You guys completely missed the point harping on about whatever fragrance, spent zero time on the actual looks of the car, and must have been stoned to say that the interior was shit. Good job.
@JurgenAldrich
28 күн бұрын
How much did you get it, and how many mileage?
@scottsnothome5649
17 күн бұрын
@@JurgenAldrich in Canada, it was 95k Canada. Zero miles, it was new.
@danieljohnson4418
4 жыл бұрын
I can think of numerous vehicles that I would rather own for less money, especially after the factory warranty expires.
@chriscarbaugh3936
Жыл бұрын
Thanks you might have saved me from making a mistake. I am NOT a lease today, gone tomorrow kind of guy. I am buy today and keep tomorrow. Looks like a "simple" M2 Comp is better for me! :)
@PintoPopProductions
4 жыл бұрын
That's the sleekest W123 I ever saw. I think Jack meant W213 but I still had to laugh.
@jackholmes8105
4 жыл бұрын
I had a stroke lol
@user-xx3ck4fd1r
4 жыл бұрын
What to choose Rav 4 or Highlander Some streets are bad And on the weekend, a trip out in the desert? What are you thinking 
@ElPulpo
4 жыл бұрын
one of the best reviews I have ever seen...this is quality work guys...Thank you!
@rajkirannatarajan9276
4 жыл бұрын
10 years from now on KZitem...... *Scotty Kilmer:* “Here’s why I’m not fixing this Mercedes”
@93455Driver
4 жыл бұрын
Wish they had a version of this car with an analog interior (well more analog).
@MrCarGuy
4 жыл бұрын
The LC500 is a better car for this GT class and for me. Aaand for long-term financial sustainability.
@jimmychoi5219
4 жыл бұрын
My dream car but so expensive here in Singapore. For just the E300 coupe, its already 230K USD...You guys are so fortunate because of your relatively cheap car prices/taxes
@PianoBlackTrimRep.
4 жыл бұрын
I came for the review. I stayed for the Turbowski comments.
@pointless4558
4 жыл бұрын
You can’t complain about the gloss black and aluminum finishes without saying that it’s the way this particular car is spec’d. Obviously wood grain or carbon fiber would be finer finishes, but more expensive.
@abbashaider8668
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like you guys are just hating on this car for no real reason. While it wouldn’t be my first pick for $80000, its a good car to lease for 3 years and enjoy your daily commute in luxury, style, power and driving enjoyment.
@jahfus
4 жыл бұрын
Tony Sorprano doing the best car reviews on KZitem right now.. instant Sub mayne 🤘🤝he keeps it real 100%
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