Since filming Specialized have changed the S-Works frame price from $2000 to $2500.
@Shadogi
5 жыл бұрын
Lame, I got super excited when you said that!
@aforanti
5 жыл бұрын
Looks as though many of their frames have taken a price increase this year. Might be something to do with the US China tariffs, but that's only 10%, no reason why frames have jumped up approx 20%. Plus I presume S-Works frames are made by Giant in Taiwan, not in China.
@jesuisFORTIO
5 жыл бұрын
great news, overpriced frames now even more overpriced!
@jen3800
5 жыл бұрын
what a ripoff
@caperider1160
5 жыл бұрын
Can somebody tell us how much would be the factory cost per frame, assuming they are made by Giant in Taiwan?? For large orders like Specialized, I would think not more than 600 usd per frame.
@bikeradar
5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the new 2020 Specialized Epic? Let us know in the comments!
@przemekkosinski166
5 жыл бұрын
Overpriced.
@forchristsgloryamen858
5 жыл бұрын
I love my S-Works Epic HT! Great Bike and very light!
@maxfish2301
5 жыл бұрын
My 2011 sworks stumpjumper ht is 6kg with pedals. It came 7.4kg out of the box in a large. Not the lightest bike from that era. Good to see xc bikes doing a full circle in weight.
@jjburkk
4 жыл бұрын
Just got back from my first ride on my new 2020 Epic HT. That bike is amazing! Rides very nice. Slides down the trail like butter. Shifting is nice, but the lever for shifting to higher gears seems awkward. Climbs as good or better than what most people say. Rear hub click is a bit noisier than some. The only thing I might change right away is putting a larger front sprocket on. Most places to ride around where I live are relatively flat. I mainly use gears 2-5 through a 15 mile trip. I'd like to be more in the 5-8 range. That way having the option for more speed on flat or down hill. Other than that for 2100. It's an outstanding bike!
@newttella1043
5 жыл бұрын
Very nice bike for a very small sliver of the mtb market. However, the budget version would be interesting. A light trail worthy bike with a dropper post would get the attention of a lot of regular riders.
@Bayplaces
5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a review of the $2,120 Epic Hardtail. The frame is last year's S-Works model. It makes me regret buying a Specialized Chisel frameset back in April.
@PhilAndersonOutside
4 жыл бұрын
Me too. The Epic Hardtail, and Epic Hardtail Comp are $2,620 and $2,120, both are carbon, both SRAM Eagle. If one bought one of these, they could start saving money for carbon wheels in the future, which would give the bike a big bump in performance.
@-TRIPLE_A-
3 жыл бұрын
@@PhilAndersonOutside I picked up the standard Epic Hardtail last year and have been slowly upgrading the parts outside the frame over time. I really love the bike - its frame is a really impressive heart to upgrade from. And the matt black paint job is *chef's kiss*
@puntoni
5 жыл бұрын
Damn 7.8 kilos? That lighter than my road bike!
@DJPaulSticks
5 жыл бұрын
It must be the first time the Specialized have announced the weights.
@forchristsgloryamen858
5 жыл бұрын
I love my S-Works Epic HT! Great Bike and very light!
@nl3712
5 жыл бұрын
Only $9,000? Damn, I’ll take two! Very pretty bike with a decidedly niche audience.
@Jimmy4video
5 жыл бұрын
I mean I guess there's an audience, but it would be nice to see some more attention to bikes the vast majority could actually afford.
@glenn8452
5 жыл бұрын
They should increase the price to $12,000 or more, maybe $15,000 or $20k. You can get a new motorcycle for less, compare the material and engineering involved...
@hugoyoung4890
5 жыл бұрын
@@glenn8452 I wasn't aware that you could ride a moto on xc trails. Why buy a Ferrari when you could buy a Ford mondeo? Who gave you permission to judge peoples purchases?
@Montblanc1986
5 жыл бұрын
@@glenn8452 motorcycles are stamped steel. This requires more engineering because its weight specific and is human powered
@glenn8452
5 жыл бұрын
@@hugoyoung4890 I never stated that you can ride a moto on xc trails, although I have seen them in Lake Tahoe and Downieville CA. No one gave me permission for anything, I EXPRESSED AN OPINION. I don't need your permission to write anything...
@princealbaniel2529
5 жыл бұрын
i just saw the commercial for this bike and it's hilarious 😂
@vaughanc4919
5 жыл бұрын
Well, with one of those there is no need for a gravel bike!
@richarde1355
5 жыл бұрын
"Need", as it pertains to bike ownership and the quantity thereof, has no place in the dictionary of a bike owner.
@levivv
5 жыл бұрын
drop bars are more comfortable on long rides though
@vaughanc4919
5 жыл бұрын
@@levivv haha, I'm lucky enough to have a gravel bike as well as an MTB, I used to race 24 hr solo competitively and I can assure you that's not correct
@levivv
5 жыл бұрын
@@vaughanc4919 eh maybe. i have nerve damage in my palms from mountain biking on rooty singletrack and the bars hitting the same spot over and over. at least with drops you can change your position
@mtbvillars
5 жыл бұрын
Fair and just, the multiple hand positions of drop bars can certainly help your situation
@cloudrojo
5 жыл бұрын
holyfuck, if you cant climb with that monster... mtb is not for u
@dannybeeh6332
5 жыл бұрын
Alex If you can’t climb on any bike that pushes the limits of carbon technology, then you need the gym and a diet!
@Megabear90
5 жыл бұрын
@@dannybeeh6332 what about a carbon DH Bike? :D
@dannybeeh6332
5 жыл бұрын
Kevin Hayes Run it up the hills? HAHAHA good point though.
@digbysirchickentf2315
5 жыл бұрын
Stupid cassette looks stupid.
@ericokompatzki7110
5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison to the previous Epic HT, specially because they dropped the all straight tubes design that characterised the 2017-2019 model. The overall lines actually remind me more of the old Stumpjumper HT rather than the Epic HT it replaces.
@taxner
5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a comparison between this and Cannondale FSI 2019 Hi-mod as to how the comfort is between the bikes!
@qrcycles4872
5 жыл бұрын
Same designer! This is a FSi with threaded BB :D
@MAGAIVER
5 жыл бұрын
@@qrcycles4872 are you sure? I don't think two competing companies would hire the same designer.
@patricklaureys9238
5 жыл бұрын
I have a Cannondale FSI 2017 and I can tell you I'm not going there again.
@qrcycles4872
5 жыл бұрын
@@MAGAIVER Google Peter Denk, he has worked as a bike designer for many companies. He is an independent consultant now.
@steveco1800
5 жыл бұрын
I tested a Focus Raven which was around 9kg, but honestly preferred my 11kg Cube hardtail on the rough and descents. Felt more planted and less skittish. If spending this much I'd go full sus XC. Amazing bike though - same weight as my road bike!
@FIGHTTHECABLE
5 жыл бұрын
They left off the valve cap to get the weight even lower! 7:27
@endremajos2566
5 жыл бұрын
my friend says, that his bike has 9 kg w/o cycle computer, what a weight loss
@K777John
4 жыл бұрын
Lovely bike, it’s lighter than my 2019 Specialized Roubaix Expert, and massively lighter than my 1999 Specialized FSR Comp. I just spent over £2,000 on a Ti Hardtail which weighs 13.7kg-but I don’t race XC and have no intention of starting at 71......
@iPtrck
5 жыл бұрын
Nah my bike is 15kg I'm 80kg i just need to lose 8kg.. to get same result.
@HeathyRoidz
5 жыл бұрын
I’m 58kg tho, and my bike is 16kg mtb, road is 7.1kg
@deannadelgado5266
4 жыл бұрын
That’s not how that works lol
@VintageMeefs
4 жыл бұрын
imagine you lost 8kg and your bike lost 8kg? double the result.
@nenadpetkovic9680
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and you can save a lot of money 🤣
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
5 жыл бұрын
Not a great fan of SC bikes, but that is IMPRESSIVE
Something I think he forgot to mention is that the bike comes with a built in quarq powermeter. Seems pretty cool. I saw this on their website for both the sworks build of the epic ht and epic full sus. The price seems very good for having the axs groupset and and the powermeter.
@skyhigheagleer6
5 жыл бұрын
Lighter than my road bike :0
@Davide_sd
5 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine a rock bouncing up from the front tire and cracking that frame.....
@rockjunkie1699
5 жыл бұрын
honestly? 2k for a frame isn't even that bad
@feluacc
5 жыл бұрын
@@rockjunkie1699 lol keep repeating that to yourself. 2K for a frame is robbery
@guillermohoffmann8417
5 жыл бұрын
oh just missed it cause I bought a 2019 Chisel which will be equipped with the new AXS (am I crazy?... YES! LOL) .... oh my second ride is a 2015 Epic FSR XTR Di2 and RS-01 Fork....Great video guys!!
@Kris.Butcher
4 жыл бұрын
Great video any chance of a proper review on the just over 2K version? Itching to know how it handles and the overall weight!!
@rodolforeyes7746
4 жыл бұрын
Excelent bike.
@caperider1160
5 жыл бұрын
Thats about the weight of my supersix evo road bike!!!
@01stum
4 жыл бұрын
Have a 2 year old bottom of the range epic and love it, best bike I have ever used
@LMurphy789
5 жыл бұрын
I’m sure if I rode this like I ride my 2018 Epic Hardtail, I would have the same bone rattling experience going down my usual bumpy Santa Cruz trails, it’s just the same bike but lighter and I’m not down.
@MAGAIVER
5 жыл бұрын
You could always change the suspension fork for a rigid carbon fork. Saves a bunch of grams and increases the bone rattling experience which is a lot of fun.
@mybadvideos
5 жыл бұрын
Is it still normal for xc race bikes to not have a dropper?
@levivv
5 жыл бұрын
california trails look sick af. the bike comes with a powermeter for 9k? thats pretty good
@jen3800
5 жыл бұрын
they should partner with wahoo or garmin and include a head unit too. not to mention GPS tracker chips built into the frame and components to track thieves
@levivv
5 жыл бұрын
@@jen3800 i disagree about head unit, everyone already has one that they like and transfer from bike to bike, if i wanted a new one i would buy it
@doswheelsbetter8292
5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Joe to give the RAPHA 500 a go on this.
@TheTonicro
5 жыл бұрын
frame looks really nice, clean look with axs is supercool
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
5 жыл бұрын
Not a great fan of XC bikes, but that is IMPRESSIVE
@HeIIIghast
5 жыл бұрын
specially the price))))
@th_js
5 жыл бұрын
This is Specialized.
@polishguywithhardtospellna8227
4 жыл бұрын
@@th_js yeah I was meant to write XC, hello Tomi
@th_js
4 жыл бұрын
@@polishguywithhardtospellna8227 Oh haha didn't even realize it was you, hello!
@dexterwouters4949
4 жыл бұрын
so wha's the weight of the complete build of the entry model?
@TheTennesseeYankee
4 жыл бұрын
26 lbs for a Large
@Goodman-4525
5 жыл бұрын
Jump to 5:16 for those who fix their own bikes ;)
@th_js
5 жыл бұрын
For some reason I felt really nice... Even though I will never buy this bike.
@Hoi4ofgender
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah specialized of all companies has been big on offering threaded bbs on their bikes lately
@hockeyiscanada
5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see a big name brand make a super light hardtail xc bike. However, not the lightest around though for a production bike, the ax-lightness VIAL evo XC is 6,9kg for a medium hardtail xc and is like the lightest hardtail xc bike in the World and they build 100% their bikes. There's also Stoll bikes and Unno that have as similar weight for a hardtail xc, but they don't make the whole bike themselves like ax-lightness.
@Joeypouls
5 жыл бұрын
That moment when a bike is actually cheaper than Dollars than Pounds... Shout out to Brexit
@MAGAIVER
5 жыл бұрын
At least you're not in Brazil, around here the previous S-Works HT with mechanical XX1 Eagle costs 52 thousand reais thats roughly 13130 us dollars, keep in my that the country's minimum wage is 998 reais and theres a lot of people earning well below the minimum wage. Cycling is stupid expensive here.
@zon3ful
5 жыл бұрын
@@MAGAIVER I dont think $9000 is considered cheap in any country
@MAGAIVER
5 жыл бұрын
@@zon3ful sure isn't but given hoe much people earn in certain places it's a whole lot more attainable, the 52thousand for us here, you'd need to save a minimum wage pay for over 4 years without spending a single cent to get that kind of money. I am fortunate to have an above avarage job but it still takes me a whole year to be able to afford a mid range bike. And I have a bachelor's degree in Social Communication and advertising and an specialization in graphic design and advertising less educated people have an ever harder time most can't think about owning an entry-level bike as they can barely afford do eat.
@PhilAndersonOutside
4 жыл бұрын
@@zon3ful I live in the US, and even before Covid-19 and the economy was "booming" (which means great for rich people), $9,000 is still a hell of a lot of money for 99% of the population. We're becoming more like Brazil every year as I think about it.
@joaquimpereira8069
4 жыл бұрын
I, what happens if i buy a frame from 2020 and put my fork of an s-works 2019 on it?? thanks
@jeremysweeten2792
5 жыл бұрын
You had me at “S”
@jen3800
5 жыл бұрын
would a longer stem affect descending ? would it make it more stable? is it the same on road bikes? i know a short stem allows for quick maneuvers. not sure about straight descents on a road vs MTB. advice? ideas?
@paulbedford3712
4 жыл бұрын
Could I upgrade the groupset to the electronic SRAM system from my eagle groupset if I wanted to later?
@lecco666
5 жыл бұрын
Damned by faint praise...
@jonienglish3231
4 жыл бұрын
how tall are you ? looks like the Frame in the Video 5.33 is a Size Large ?
@SorinVBogdan
5 жыл бұрын
mtb is an expensive hobby hot damn
@ultimateone624
4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 stump jumper. I wonder if I should upgrade my frameset to the s works epic hardtail frameset. Mine is a 27 will this frame work everything on my bike is beyond upgraded. Frameset is the only thing left want to go carbon. ?
@stefanjepp6612
4 жыл бұрын
I would gofor the base model, that is a reasonable price
@SiopaoSauc3
5 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of big S and their business practices, but hot damn do they make pretty bikes with sick sillouhettes.
@StormMinus18
3 жыл бұрын
What would you say is the closest competition to this bike?
@darylsablan9172
4 жыл бұрын
Where in California did you film this segment? The trail looks fun to ride.
@onilovni1234
5 жыл бұрын
7.8 kg for a MTB...Seriously Specialized? Are you really trying to tell me that you sold me a 7.9 kg S-Works Venge in 2018? How did you manage to do that?
@mitchellsteindler
5 жыл бұрын
The thing is, mtb frames and road frames have to be built to the same impact standards. But mtb have suspension and huge tires to absorb a lot of the impact. Road bikes do not. Have you ever noticed how light mtb wheels are compared to road wheels? Bikes have to be built for worst case scenario, within reason. Running over a pothole is well within reason, so the road bike needs to be tough enough to take that pothole with no suspension.
@jussa101
4 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellsteindler I'd think it has more to do with the uci weight limit. There's no need to go ultralight on the road. Instead make the aero foils longer and help the air reattach.
@Joeypouls
5 жыл бұрын
Surely Fox or RockShox know how to design a fork better than Specialized? Why is the 'brain' still a thing? I had a stumpjumper 2010 and the shock needed a broke every year as Specialized badly customised a Float into a 'Triad' shock...
@tobeyjay3982
5 жыл бұрын
Joeypouls The brain fork and shocks are developed with RockShox. I have ridden it a couple of times and found it very helpful not having to think about a lockout it’s super helpful in a race.
@1722gman
5 жыл бұрын
Comparing decade old technology to modern tech is pretty silly, don't you think?
@pizzagorgonzola
5 жыл бұрын
i fought Fact 11 was the best carbon fibers Spé uses, the less expensive models must be using Fact 9
@jussa101
4 жыл бұрын
Fact 12r is their best.
@ErikS308
5 жыл бұрын
How much again. As a roadie I am astounded at the price.
@jonienglish3231
5 жыл бұрын
Not Sure about going to a Larger 30.9mm seat post and calling it more Compliant ??? ( Unless GIANT FACTORY in TAIWAN is MAKING the Frame for Specialized ) Cannondale still uses a 27.2mm seat post for FLEX
@lechprotean
5 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, a thinner walled therefore lighter larger diameter tube will be as strong and therefore as as compliant, but lower weight overall, so that could be the reason?
@BensMis-adventures
5 жыл бұрын
Merida owns half of Specialized so I'd imagine they'd be built in Merida's Taiwan factory rather than Giant's.
@MAGAIVER
5 жыл бұрын
30.9 is good for fitting a dropper seatpot, which given how technical the XCO courses have been getting is a welcome thing.
@kianery
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, what size the brake rotors front-rear? Thanks
@bacazterchovej2235
5 жыл бұрын
what about rocks lifted by front tyre ? does it survive that hits ?
@lechprotean
5 жыл бұрын
I'd probably put a sticker on the bottom of the frame, taking the weight to 7990g? ;)
@crowned_vlogger420
4 жыл бұрын
What to do if I want to buy this cycle in india🇮🇳?
@20thbctesd76
4 жыл бұрын
Specialized advertised this frame as 760 to 790 grams for M size. Then why is that my 2020 sworks epic ht small frame weighs 845 grams, no seatpost clamp, rear axle and rd hanger?? Was that an engineering error or what?
@-TRIPLE_A-
3 жыл бұрын
is yours the S-Works model? that one uses the later, lighter fact12 carbon than non-Sworks models which are on fact11
@gerardotelese5337
5 жыл бұрын
2:55 "can" or "cant"??? i listen it again many times and i could't hear well..
@jayteecervantes3702
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty excited to build my 2020 sworks epic ht.
@rihard6672
3 жыл бұрын
Yea I'm trying to look for a light bike becouse I go riding hills and I love pulling wheelies so I need something easier to drive
@unknownerror5926
5 жыл бұрын
UCI racers excluded, why would you even race a cyclocross bike with this beast? You could race cross and win in the corners.
@TalleyrandsPuppet
4 жыл бұрын
And lose in the straight-aways. And on hard pack dirt.
@nickrah1737
4 жыл бұрын
What bike is he referencing at *1:30* ? Can somebody drop a link on where to buy? Thanks :) (hardtails are life)
@davethomas543
4 жыл бұрын
I will stick with my 2008 S-Works .
@lucian93fr
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@glennoc8585
5 жыл бұрын
Frame must be brittle though i wouldn't go under 1000g.
@dazzasp3
5 жыл бұрын
Jeez only 2019
@Elliott947
5 жыл бұрын
My cannondale lefty weighs 7.71 kg or 17 lbs
@mounir1878
3 жыл бұрын
The price is my job all my life in my dreaded country
@mitchellsteindler
5 жыл бұрын
This weighs the same as my road bike
@Djoki1
5 жыл бұрын
Dude my road bike weights that much All tho it's probably 10 years behind in terms of frame tech and stuff
@HeathenRides
4 жыл бұрын
This bike is more expensive than my turbo levo, emtb!
@jasmindequito8191
4 жыл бұрын
How much this frame?
@chengsereyrith3423
2 жыл бұрын
I tried all my best can only 8.6 kg for Hardtail SW epic 2021
@cup_and_cone
5 жыл бұрын
Something sacrilegious about wearing baggy pants whilst riding this.
@DB-sd3cw
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 9k on a bicycle
@Mp57navy
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine spending 1000 bucks on a phone.
@tennispennis7579
3 жыл бұрын
Good review but 8K on a bicycle with no battery or engine lol , 8K mmmmmm I think they can keep their bike and me my 8K........how long does the carbon last until it snaps and throws you head first into the road i wonder lol :) love it , no pain no gain :)
@lesterbote984
5 жыл бұрын
Can i ride that bike hehe
@ryeguy0306
5 жыл бұрын
Specialized makes nice bikes, but $9k for a hardtail? Also could you please convert Kilos to pounds?
@mrnobody9821
5 жыл бұрын
17.19lbs
@Montblanc1986
5 жыл бұрын
Can it run a front derailleur such as the new XTR 2x?
@TomMarvin1
5 жыл бұрын
1x only I'm 99% sure - will check later
@neiswestnij
4 жыл бұрын
The pricing of bikes gets out of the control.
@VideoNOLA
5 жыл бұрын
Are contestants paid money prizes for winning these races? I'm trying to picture why it would be worthwhile otherwise.
@hunterwick1243
5 жыл бұрын
At most races yes some but we're talking like $200 until you get at least to a statewide level so you have to be pretty phenomenal to really ever make any money
@madisonian50
5 жыл бұрын
Anyone recognize the location?
@TomMarvin1
5 жыл бұрын
Northstar resort, Tahoe
@madisonian50
5 жыл бұрын
I happen to live in Truckee, so thought it might be nearby. Thanks!
@samhart1884
5 жыл бұрын
Too bad my team is sponsored by trek
@newttella1043
5 жыл бұрын
I would like to have your problem.
@samhart1884
5 жыл бұрын
Newt Tella lol I don’t even ride a trek but my next bike has to be😂
@steveco1800
5 жыл бұрын
They'll be out with a new XC full sus bike soon won't they? Neff keeps riding one in the World Cup races with a cover over the shock.
@samhart1884
5 жыл бұрын
Steve Co ya the super calliper should be out by September so our team would have to ride that. Not sure how I feel about a soft tail
@steveco1800
5 жыл бұрын
@@samhart1884Oh you mean it's not a shock and pivots rear sus? Really intrigued by it because really liked the previous 100mm Top Fuel when tried it on a demo day. Kept pining over one, though my fastest time on the demo loop was on my hardtail.
@filipadrian6399
4 жыл бұрын
Amateur bikers be like i have a mtb under 8kg ...( he weighs 99 😂 )
@Veriv213
5 жыл бұрын
Geometry is very similar to 2017 decathlon Rockrider XC500 proportions.... Reach 434mm/430mm, stack 612mm/608mm, fork 510mm/506mm, CS length 430mm/430mm, FT 69,5st/68,5st etc.... There is no revolution in geometry
@Bread_Garlichouse
7 ай бұрын
With stock parts it's barely under 9kg with xtr pedals. 7.8 my balls.
@jesuisFORTIO
5 жыл бұрын
only for the price of kidney, or maybe 2
@patricklaureys9238
5 жыл бұрын
Or your private parts
@SouthernSender
5 жыл бұрын
No comment on how this bike used to be full sus?
@obi-wankenobi9871
5 жыл бұрын
It never was. The are two versions of the epic.
@willsitz4901
5 жыл бұрын
Or you can build a full sus at nearly the same weight for nearly the same cost? Ok
@Oh_Sully23
4 жыл бұрын
Piss the SID Brain off for a Fox 32 StepCast and save more weight.
@TangoOne
5 жыл бұрын
No dropper, they cheated
@theforruner117
5 жыл бұрын
1.8 lb frame....wtf
@mopedmarathon
5 жыл бұрын
That frame weighs less than my average Poo. Wonder if specialised would do me a swap?
@jayteecervantes3702
4 жыл бұрын
Why are you guys arguing about the price of this bike? Buy if you can. Don't buy if you can't afford it.
@chrisjong8412
5 жыл бұрын
Why don't you give euro prices? Isn't that allowed anymore by Boris? 🤣
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