For years I waa always on the YZ.......but the more I ride green the better I like it. Maybe I'm changing more than the bikes are......I dunno what I'm gonna be when I grow up; I'm only 73.
@stevestiffler9120
4 жыл бұрын
Be a Mo'cross rider like me and live the dream my friend
@davidklimmek3192
3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki for life dude! Get a new one every 6mos ! Enjoy life . God bless!
Wheelchair with a yamaha R1 engine in it , should give you some excitement in your life considering you are only 73
@tomnekuda3818
3 жыл бұрын
@@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063 Remember this remark when you're 73..........
@ridingdeep8530
3 жыл бұрын
I am very happy with my YZ450, the ability to change maps is awesome. If you don't like the power delivery, no problem, change it. I found it interesting that they didn't mention that easily changed mapping more than once or twice, you can easily get more bottom end grunt if you want it. I also appreciate my engine's longevity, the KX's are sweet but I wouldn't trade it for my YZ's reliability while racing GP's and desert. Also being a taller guy I appreciate the physical size of the YZ, big and tall can be a good thing.
@aeror115
4 жыл бұрын
After getting comfortable with the 2020 kx250... my next dirt bike is gonna be a KX450 cheers 🤘
@davidklimmek3192
3 жыл бұрын
Me too brother next wk! - Ohio 🇺🇸
@ckirk1597
3 жыл бұрын
I did the same.... My opinion, I would just stay with the 250. The 450 is a lot of power and hard to ride. I have more fun on the 250. But that’s just me
@davenawahine4428
4 жыл бұрын
Best thing mxa did was hire this guy to do the comparisons and shootouts.....Gota love the honesty👍 Details were well covered in all areas, chassis, handling, power, suspension, weight, Ergos... The pros and cons were a nice touch too! See swap, this is how it's done.
@jeremyelford7926
Жыл бұрын
MXA is the least objective media outlet on these matters...100% loyal to the highest bidder...
@DanHovarter
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a weekend warrior Durability is everything for me.
@jeanplug298
4 жыл бұрын
I love this type of video i hope you’ll do it every year for this 2 bikes because every Yamaha rider is low key a kawasaki rider both bikes have the same fan base Thanks again ! I also love watching MXA shoot out videos in 4K keep em coming
@michaelryall6344
4 жыл бұрын
I certainly don't find the YZ too wide, but maybe because I am a taller rider and find the narrow bikes harder to squeeze. Love the YZ and the KX.
@localenterprisebroadcastin5971
4 жыл бұрын
So moral of the story...but what’s cheaper ...they’re the same bike for anyone who isn’t a pro
@kjc9trader491
4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a head to head shootout with the 2021 Kawasaki KX450 and the 2021 KTM 450 SXF
@2ss701
4 жыл бұрын
YZ450F is the best
@cer7cer7
4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy all the shootouts but always look to you guys for the most accurate and definitive bike comparison for real world riding and racing. I've watched this shootout twice now and replayed various parts more times than that. Could you elaborate on the final comment(s) you make where you state - overall the MXA wrecking crew would rather ride the KX 450 but when lining up for a race we'd choose the YZF 450....- Are you saying (in stock forms) the the KX (in your test opinion) is best for fun riding vs the Yamaha is best for a serious racer ? Just want to be sure I understand this final point. Thanks for all your hard work that leads to excellent content for us fans/viewers. I always look forward to everything you guys produce.
@gusgiesel
4 жыл бұрын
I understood those statements to mean that the Kawasaki is more pleasurable to ride (choice for overall riding) but the Yamaha is faster (choice for racing).
@andndmmcmnf1321
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never owned a dirt bike but I think I’d go for the Yamaha🔥
@ridetillidieharleyyamaha4063
3 жыл бұрын
You would be making a wise decision 🇦🇺🤙🏼
@chris-o2v9c
3 жыл бұрын
Blue all day!all that power curve can easily be adjusted with your phone.not only that,the quality of yamaha is better in my opinion in every way.It will last longer ust look at bikes blowing up on KZitem and they are mostly green and red it seems.
@jeremyelford7926
Жыл бұрын
Good decision...😊
@OGPokey151
3 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'2" 225lb rider. The Yamaha fits me perfect. I also love the mapping from your cell phone
@Dirtbiker359
Жыл бұрын
Im the opposite it just feels off idk if i need bigger bars and riser or what
@OGPokey151
Жыл бұрын
@@Dirtbiker359 run the bar mounts in the forward hole and they are also offset so I also like those rotated forward
@mattbrown3910
4 жыл бұрын
Wet Weights are listed on MFC Websites as KX at 242.9lbs and YZ at 245lbs. Much closer in weight than the video says they are.
@moto3moto419
4 жыл бұрын
Usually full of shit this mob , so they can not get the weight correct ? Complicated thing for them to do , supply facts.
@M6BrokeMe
3 жыл бұрын
Who can really use a 450 engine at 9,000 rpm?
@OklahomaHistoryLegends
3 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Travis Pastrana*
@izacaqsha3480
2 жыл бұрын
Maniac
@HallowellsSpeedShop
4 жыл бұрын
130lb rider here, I was leaning Yami for awhile, but after hearing the Kawi is better suited if you’re lighter, maybe it’s time I switch to green 🤔
@jase1911
4 жыл бұрын
Green or red is the only colors that I ride
@SD-ir1vf
3 жыл бұрын
I lost 30 pounds because of low carb diet I needed to go on. I like everything they said about the KX. And the KX finally switched from 4 to 5 gears. I got to make the switch from 2T TO 4T. Tomac won three championships in a row I on that bike.
@holeshotinspectionllc2412
3 жыл бұрын
@@SD-ir1vf 4-5 speed, I had an 09, 12, 17 all 5 speed transmissions...
I dont get why people hate on the YZ’s air filter design. I think it’s brilliant. It keeps it in the front part of the bike, high on the frame to get the cleanest air possible. With my YZ I have to clean the filter way less often than the traditional design because the traditional design is right near the rear tire, which kicks up a lot of dust and dirt!
@jamietyler4099
3 жыл бұрын
Both great bikes buy one and ride it. That said I love my kawi!!
@mxr7586
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry but the Yamaha has more power everywhere when you ride them the dyno isn’t pushing air into the motor like when you ride. My friends last year model Kawasaki is still under power compared to my Yamaha and he has put aftermarket exhaust and some other things. Then tore it down to do motor work on it. Put a High compression piston after only 19 hours the cylinder had piston slap marks. Also I’ve had both bikes and you guys saying the Yamaha feels heavy your crazy and it also turns on a dime . The motors on the Yamaha last way longer than any bike period. The valves last also longer than other bikes too. My sons bike has a 150hrs and valves were still in spec and have never been shimmed. I have also worked on other with over a 100hrs. The Honda I had lucky if it got to 50hrs. 242.9 Kawasaki and 245lbs Yamaha so really not much difference. Also ppl that have rode my Yamaha didn’t say the crazy crap you guys said. They love how great it turns in ruts or even on flat. And it’s amazing it the mud. I’ve had all the bikes and you guys seem pretty one sided. Also measure the radiators across there isn’t much difference in width between the bikes. I did that when I had my Kawasaki and Yamaha. I chose Yamaha cause it dose everything really good and you don’t need aftermarket exhaust. The motor is really strong and you can tune it to an arm jerking machine or mellow it out and it last a long time.
@Anii6969
4 жыл бұрын
Let them know! But KTM / Husky is way more durable then any bike on the market. My friend has a KTM 250 and has 300 + hours on it with only 1 top end change ever. Still going strong. Very hard to beat the Aussie bikes.
@mxr7586
4 жыл бұрын
Anakin Skywalker idk but all my Friends that went to KTM they all had problems with them so they got rid of them and got Different manufacture
@ironmonkey1512
4 жыл бұрын
@@mxr7586 all KTM riders do is stand around and talk about that one time long ago their suspension worked right
@mxr7586
4 жыл бұрын
iron monkey that’s funny cause I rode one and it was horrible. Plus the guy I just met and rode with last week we did some laps together and came back to rest a bit. Then when he went to start his KTM 2019 it didn’t sound good at all! Real bad tick sound. And he barely has any hours on it. He shut it off waited awhile then tried again and it seem to go away. Next day he decided to go race the thing and it shut off. They don’t last long when ridden hard and way to expensive to rebuild compared to any other bike.
@lostinspace699
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry the Kwaka Wins,,,
@bryanjohnson665
4 жыл бұрын
Good video. But I think you can refrain from saying 2021 YZ 450f and 2021 KX 450 everytime.
@chriscurbstompscm
4 жыл бұрын
Dude that intro song was cool.
@fishingwithtc3335
4 жыл бұрын
Both are good, honda, kawi, Yamaha.
@ZmannR2
2 жыл бұрын
Just swapped my 2017 YZ450F for the 2019 KX450 and it’s night and day better than the Yamaha! I love it so much
@mildaudiophile3879
4 жыл бұрын
Well put! I love shootouts. You guys should do truck shootouts. Best track/moto truck.
@crashtest603
4 жыл бұрын
Ford and Chevy need to bring back the El Camino and Ranchero, that would be a good shootout
@theshootindutchman
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent shootout! You hit every single point that I would have wanted to hear about. I have owned and raised both the Yamahas and the Kawasakis over the years and you're exactly right about Yamaha being the more bulletproof of the two bikes! one thing that cannot be overlooked however, is the flickability of the Kawasaki because of how skinny it feels compared to the Yamaha period it cannot be overstated, that a wide bike simply does not feel flickable, and throwing whips on the Kawasaki is almost second nature 👍!
@jeanplug298
4 жыл бұрын
Hello i would like to know which one is better for a tall rider im 6’4 and i wanna buy one of these but i don’t know which one will suit me the most.
@chazzgonzalez1356
4 жыл бұрын
Baba Cora Sene the Yamaha will do you wonders with the ergos since it’s for a taller rider and has more power and better suspension
@jeanplug298
4 жыл бұрын
Chazz Gonzalez What about the height between the footpegs and the seat ? The transition from sitting to standing is ut hard for tall riders ?
@theshootindutchman
4 жыл бұрын
Baba I feel they were both about the same for a tall rider. I am 6' tall and had no problem with either bike. I feel bar height has a lot to do with comfort too.
@ironmonkey1512
4 жыл бұрын
@@jeanplug298 I don't know about the yamaha but I am same height the kawi has adjustable bars and footpegs for taller riders works for me
Great comparison. I appreciated the effort to break it down pro and con along with we'd ride this one but race that one.
@benfarr6049
3 жыл бұрын
I know everyone can't, but the only way to know is to ride one and how it fits you. I bought a yz off reviews getting back in the sport, after riding a friend's kx I sold it and bought the kawasaki, kx felt way better and inspired confidence
@bikelifewiz8144
3 жыл бұрын
I just finished riding my 2019 Yz450f with my buddy on his 2016 kx450f and we compared both bikes on the road being topped out and the yamaha is the one that pulls away on top end on low end they both put a great fight almost side to side but on top end the Yamaha over takes
@johnthomas6614
4 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Josh. Well Said Facts Straight Up🏁
@2ss701
4 жыл бұрын
The yz they said they rather race it and the kawi they rather ride it
@mxr7586
4 жыл бұрын
YAMI_BROTHAS ya it seems they contradict themselves. The Yamaha is only about 3 lbs heavier which isn’t much difference. Also how wide it is not much difference there either. Another shootout everyone talked highly about the Yamaha how it does everything. Most all of them picked the Yamaha but swap said he pick the Kawasaki cause his brother rode one but yet liked the Yamaha. This shootout they act like it don’t turn too heavy bs. Cause my friends say mine turns on a dime and they live it. Like the guy said they rather race the Yamaha! That means they feel they can win on it better than the Kawasaki.
@spacejaime
4 жыл бұрын
It's moto journalism code to be diplomatic to both brands.
@lawrencemacdonald9454
4 жыл бұрын
Sweet bikes but my old cr 250 is my bike fun cheap and fast.
@davidklimmek3192
3 жыл бұрын
And my $$ goes.......'21 Kawasaki 450F ! Thanks MXA.
@oldg7847
3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the format Josh.. Always appreciate your insight... ✌ Old G
@mehrdadrastegar2091
3 жыл бұрын
کاوازاکی بهتره 😍 Kawasaki is best😍
@weekendthrottles
3 жыл бұрын
Kx450 💚
@buddywilson104
4 жыл бұрын
Great shoot out. Go Green!
@jeremiahperez7972
4 жыл бұрын
I like both but Kawasaki
@bobetts2748
3 жыл бұрын
Kx for sure
@popetin100
4 жыл бұрын
Good video
@Dirtbiker359
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 yz450f love the power insane amounts of throttle respone on the aggressive engine tuning setting breath on it wrong and it wants tongo over backwards ahaha but! I do no feel comfortable on it yet ive only rode it a couple days so far but my 2009 kx450 felt right at home right away i might have to look into a newer kawi and im also 6'2
@levijarman9959
4 жыл бұрын
Now lets see if any of the bikes in the 2021 shootout can beat ktm and husky
@youngman7655
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao both the kawi and the Yamaha did kawi with 3 Yamaha with 2 ktm in third with 1.
@youngman7655
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/tpmAr4dpjn98eI4
@christopherholbird6100
4 жыл бұрын
@@youngman7655 The 'this is the bike I normally ride so its the bike I choose ' shootout. Thats not a proper shootout. Swap moto always has the least relevant shootout. KTM IS #1
@youngman7655
4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Holbird aye my fav is also ktm I agree they’re the best but there so expensive so Ima have to stick with my 2010 kx250f for know.
In aus the yzf is $13200 for the monster energy edition
@dennismillus4581
4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to hear or read what you say between these two bikes. When you compare all the brands. Just to see how much you contradict your words in this video.
@crk916
4 жыл бұрын
Over/under on how many times they say KTM?
@faisalallham353
4 жыл бұрын
I hope if i succes i can buy zy 250 .amin
@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
4 жыл бұрын
I am not spending any money & sticking with my 500s. Yes, I have ridden a few 450s, and aside from nice suspension right off the bat, the *feel* slow, top-heavy and are about as exciting as watching the dryer at a laundromat. No drama, not hit, no arm-wrenching torque. Yes, my CR is old. But it has an exciting engine with power that has to be approached with respect, but if you have the discipline, you are untouchable. New bike suspension is very good, but not enough to justify it over my revalved stock stuff. It still turns, brakes and accelerates just as good as anything else. Truth be told, most bikes have exceeded their riders capabilities since the early '90s and that hasnt changed.
@diemx2
4 жыл бұрын
KX win?
@gannonsanders8236
3 жыл бұрын
I was on a kawi but i moved to a yz and I don’t know what i like more
@gannonsanders8236
3 жыл бұрын
Both great bikes
@Mason_Stepp
3 жыл бұрын
What do you feel has the smoother powerband?
@gannonsanders8236
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mason_Stepp I would say that the Yamaha has a smoother power band
@Mason_Stepp
3 жыл бұрын
@@gannonsanders8236 Is the suspension better on the yz or kawi?
@thelamboshow8819
3 жыл бұрын
Clean
@loadthebowl
4 жыл бұрын
which bike throws the bigger rooster tail?
@ironmonkey1512
4 жыл бұрын
CR500
@ChrisGuthrie
4 жыл бұрын
Plastics that dont crack and rollers that dont wear out after 2 hours.... really getting what you pay for for $9400 huh? Crazy
@muara8954
3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha
@tyanrichardson579
3 жыл бұрын
why is the airbox bad?
@franklinclinton5967
3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki all day
@swemx7403
3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha all the way.
@chris-o2v9c
3 жыл бұрын
Yamaha all day!
@ivandeswardt1869
2 жыл бұрын
So, blue bike for the win!
@ZLEO00
2 жыл бұрын
So no answer? Why make such a detailed video only to not crown a Winner…
@RANGER_-pv7tv
4 жыл бұрын
I like the yamaha 450 better
@BassWhoopinFishingTeam
3 жыл бұрын
#TeamGreen
@d4ljosh859
4 жыл бұрын
Ummm I’ll take the red 1
@dawidszymczak3074
3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki 🤟💪💥
@HenryDarr
4 жыл бұрын
BluCru FTW !
@Diggymc1
4 жыл бұрын
21 model kxf450 😜
@seyha4001
4 жыл бұрын
Hello 💕
@crawlerx1818
3 жыл бұрын
Question is, which is a better snow bike?
@inspectorluv
4 жыл бұрын
the message is mixed here...you seem to want to say the YZ is the winner, yet cant overlook what makes the KX better. I have 2019 KX and my buddy has the 2020 YZ....not sure it is similar to this, but on the track, where turning and pulling out of corners matters, the KX clearly beats the YZ....we both agree without debate, so I dont see how you guys would rather race the YZ if you have to be pegged to get power....I suppose riding style is a big part of all of that.
@mxr7586
4 жыл бұрын
inspectorluv my friends and I are A class riders and I personally have a 16 yz450 Yamaha that I set up and my one friend has the 19 Kawasaki 450. Mine turns better than his in all conditions especially mud. I also tuned mine to one of the TP maps. I can be on hard pack as well and it stays planted. I also put a Hoosier tire up front so he thought that’s why my bike was better so he bought one to. Other shootouts said the yz turns just fine and does everything and of course the motor and suspension as well. I also had a Kawasaki. We also rode the new Yamaha and absolutely loved it. I also got to ride a new 2020 yz250f and that thing is unreal for a 250f. So I guess I have my bike setup great then cause other ppl have rode it and loved it so idk.
@inspectorluv
4 жыл бұрын
@@mxr7586 - I think it comes down to how you ride probably. I prefer the lower to mid so the KX is just right, but I can imagine if you prefer the higher end it would not. As I got older I have been less aggressive, haha, my old KX 250 2 stroke doesn't even get started anymore. I have a Yamaha 250 Dual sport and it is a great bike, my 1st bike ever was a Yammy 80cc.....I will ride any of them...even a Honda if I am desperate, haha.
@joeldomingo4382
3 жыл бұрын
I'll go for yamaha for durability and reliability....
@RastaRider
4 жыл бұрын
Honda!!
@hondaalldayh.a.d8877
4 жыл бұрын
All damn day!
@davidkanalos6710
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a two stroker all the way ktm 250 sx .
@pauldavis509
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll take good handling over the 2.7 horsepower difference
@kylelangworthy9641
4 жыл бұрын
All the pros and cons in the shootouts what I'm wondering is somebody who is not racing an average consumer are they even going to notice the difference probably not I'm a Kawasaki guy all the way cuz I grew up racing Kawasaki 2 Strokes so I would just naturally buy a KX
@dali2277
4 жыл бұрын
These bikes are race bikes first and foremost most ,so naturally racers like to know the pros and cons .
@kylelangworthy9641
4 жыл бұрын
@@dali2277 true true I'm just saying you know the average consumer they could jump on a brand-new piece of shit Suzuki and wouldn't be able to tell the difference between that and top of the line Yamaha Honda Kawasaki KTM or Husqvarna if someone normal they would all be the same and the only reason I'm saying that about Suzuki as they haven't came out with anything new in the last 6 years except graphics that's why Carmichael just drop them and he don't even race they need to come out with something new before they don't even have a future
@pronoob2857
3 жыл бұрын
Ag
@forishzizo9704
3 жыл бұрын
Ktm 450 sxf all the way and all the day
@vevohoeyo
4 жыл бұрын
Kx all day. The yz is completely overrated. It a damn tank
@2216sammy
3 жыл бұрын
Kawi's suck . YZ's are the most reliable and win more than any other bike . Now if you need a bike because you're just starting out then an feeble Kawi is a good fit.
@davzz9664
4 жыл бұрын
Berapa harganya
@jetdr
2 жыл бұрын
Friends never let Friends buy a Kawasaki!! cheap cheap, ride it and it quickly falls apart. you will see the rust appear on the forks, brake rotors and that nice shiny exhaust header in the first month of ownership.
@fuellerr
4 жыл бұрын
In the late 80's KAW had bad plastic it's 2021 now and nothing has changed what a joke KAW
@moparone7962
4 жыл бұрын
Which does Jody prefer? Oh that's right, he doesn't like anything....never mind
@sassafraswakeboyz4121
4 жыл бұрын
Come on :)
@pantera29palms
2 жыл бұрын
So Kawasaki wins…coulda guessed.
@MX763
4 жыл бұрын
I had a 2019 KX450 and the bike was awesome. However, it looked like a hammered piece of dog shit after the first time I rode it. Not sure if it’s the metallurgy and nature of the green plastics but that thing with a half hour on it looked like it was a 75 hour bike. The motor was ticking like crazy at 1.5 hours also.
@2216sammy
3 жыл бұрын
You made a huge mistake by choosing a Kawi , get back on the Yami .
@shawntheo1603
3 жыл бұрын
wow.. thanks for the info how many hours until it needed anh work or did you sell it first?
@fortnitekid241
4 жыл бұрын
K
@PESCAO_2.1
3 жыл бұрын
Gift me
@paulwood7798
3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@jakescott4800
4 жыл бұрын
Save yourself money and time and buy a Ktm, the upgrades to make the Japanese scrap metal bikes don’t even come close to what Ktm is stock
@shawntheo1603
4 жыл бұрын
yeah I really like the ktm's I rode all the 2020s recently but that rear shock is scary... if I come up slightly short on a jump it feels like it wants to throw me over the bars the same jump hit the same way on my 2015 yz 450 and it soaks it up!
@chazzgonzalez1356
4 жыл бұрын
Jake Scott I had put more money in my Ktm more than I have any bike combined trying to feel confident 🗑
@jakescott4800
4 жыл бұрын
Chazz Gonzalez 😂😂 yeah fuckin right
@jakescott4800
4 жыл бұрын
Shawn Theo well if you’re riding stick Suspension I suppose, I’ve hit ramps on my bone stock Ktm, not the best stock suspension but definitely the best feeling and lightest bike for what I do
@ironmonkey1512
4 жыл бұрын
LOL every KTM guy I know spends thousand trying to fix lousy air forks and shocks.
@dennismillus4581
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao. The 2021 450 4pukes still fall way short on torque.! When compared to a 500cc Two Stroke,!. At least 11-13 pounds short.
@christopherholbird6100
4 жыл бұрын
And they have 50cc less but are still faster.... lol 😆
@dennismillus4581
4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherholbird6100 only in your imagination.
@Anii6969
3 жыл бұрын
I smoked a 500 like nothing on a 2010 450 few years ago. ( he was fast. But not fast enough)
@dennismillus4581
3 жыл бұрын
@@Anii6969 must gave been one that was clapped out or bald back tire. Cuz your 450 4puke is not faster.
@Stinky_sack
2 жыл бұрын
I went from a kx250f to a yz450. I don't squeeze the bike with my legs much so I felt the widge of the YZ helped me and I could corner so much better on the YZ
@natural9743
4 жыл бұрын
So both bikes are shit
@if_ckedyourmom
4 жыл бұрын
Do this with the 250s please
@roberthagreen7881
Жыл бұрын
A bit Biased boys...it's extremely obvious..lol
@lewdog8326
4 жыл бұрын
Didn't know horsepower affected corner entrance.
@goldeneggs1352
3 жыл бұрын
Kawasaki all day
@jamesshaver7977
4 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you broke theses down can u please do the same for all 👍🏁
@terryslocum4163
4 жыл бұрын
Lol the bottom end is 6-8k, I thought the bottom end was from 3-6.
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