they remapped it and now the throttle feels 100000% better
@CorsairMaverick
3 ай бұрын
Is it a software update they need to do?
@jamesdumas6602
5 ай бұрын
About comparing other bikes like the Versus to this CF Moto, the problem is a lot of other bikes that I been looking at like the Suzuki V-Strom 800 and the Yamaha T7 do NOT come with Cruise Control. Sorry, Not having Cruise Control is a Deal Breaker. If a Cheapo Chinese manufacturer can put Cruise Contol, Heated Grips, Heated Seat, Quick Sfifters as Standard equipmentat a lower price, and then you have companies like KTM put those features on their bikes and then insult us by charging us an additional $700 to keep those features working after the break-in period. I walked away from two different KTM dealerships here in Florida cause of that BS. (I talked to a mechanic at RideNow Jacksonville Fl. and he told me it only takes him about 15 minutes to plug in the computer to reactivate those features. $700. BS! no sale.)
@kenmcphail5484
Жыл бұрын
Many happy owners in Australia, and even happier with the new fueling update. Terrific value at aud $14500 (without panniers or top box). So many extras are included, unlike competitors. That might be relevant in quoted weights.
@index6738
Жыл бұрын
CF Moto Australia put effort in to come up with much better fuel map which sorted out fuelling issues. If anything motor now more responsive . Real kicker. New Australian fuel mapping rolled out globally as update.
@Mtthwpez
Жыл бұрын
Just a little correction on your info. CFMoto never bought the 790 engine from KTM. CFMoto actually make the 790 and 890 engines for the KTM models that use them. KTM just allowed CFMoto to use the 790 engine, as afaik it was a part of the deal when they moved to the 890 engine. Great review as always!
@Zimmermann310
Жыл бұрын
And I think if on this nice bike is instead CFMoto a KTM sign on, it would get from many "bike tester" a better rating.
@termit1705
Жыл бұрын
Cf Moto is owner of 51% KTM
@kugangles9860
Жыл бұрын
@@termit1705 So that makes KTM 51% Chinese. No thanks KTM.
@GrimYak
10 ай бұрын
@@termit1705 stop spreading misinformation. KTM Is still KTM, and is owned by Pierer Mobility AG for about 98% while the rest is Bajaj. what you are talking about is the joint venture of KTM and CFMOTO in China so they can share technologies and would allow CFMOTO to build engines for KTM In China. the joint venture company is called CFMoto-KTMR2R. read and understand things carefully first before you spread them.
@GrimYak
10 ай бұрын
@@kugangles9860 it was misinformation. dont believe it. Look at my comment above.
@JAMMAJ-cq2bl
Жыл бұрын
The headlights on this bike and even the general design look awesome.Two thumbs up on the looks for me.Chers!!!
@tjeers3098
Жыл бұрын
Really like your down to earth approach and humor. Thanks
@stevesanelli90
Жыл бұрын
New mapping on the way to the world developed here in Australia 👌
@MrKdr500
Жыл бұрын
i have it and makes a massive difference.
@kolikoistime
Жыл бұрын
I own one of these and I must say if you tune the suspension it is crazy how it is handling in corners you can just trow it and eat that corner easy! BIG problem with the mapping or fueling! It is snachy on the gas again cuz of the mapping. It is really premium made but I have problems with mine, gear selector started going crazy on a hill or in a turn after you try to shift to second it goes second and just falls back to neutral on its own, quickshiffter is like on 790, has a mind of his own, water found a way some where and it is affecting my computer. Hope all of it will be resolved when it goes to the shop for warranty claim. All in all bike is phenomenal to ride!
@IAmYourReflection
Жыл бұрын
How heavy did it feel? Did you get it fixed and try the new fuel map updates?
@leadsolo2751
Жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoyed this Review - Thank You !! :)
@Peter-wc4kr
Жыл бұрын
It has many more options than anything in its price range.
@drewiliffe4855
Жыл бұрын
Here in Australia CFMOTO have commenced software updates to eliminate the surge. At $14500 ride away (without luggage)it is cheap compared to everything else. Norden $25k, New vstrom 1050de $25k. The Veysys 650 is a great bike but off road it is terrible while the CFMOTO is good at basic off road. The best thing is the choice of bikes, not everyone can afford top end and if all bikes were the same then how boring would that be?
@waynev5097
Жыл бұрын
Very good point - they need some more dealers though.
@GWMotley1
Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI, I have ridden my Tiger GT Pro for about 8000 miles now and consistently average 56-58 MPG if the info helps. Like your videos though, thanks.
@andyc750
Жыл бұрын
just to point out CFMOTO did not buy the engine, the companies have a joint partnership that the Chinese company owns slightly more than half, they also build the engine in both sizes for KTM, they also have a variation of one of the large V twins, both engines they get to use through the partnership
@larryvanputten4048
Жыл бұрын
Pretty nice machine! The Chinese are definitely coming. Good and honest review as ever!
@zbynekanders8779
Жыл бұрын
Great review. The unanswered question is how reliable it is and how it keeps its value if you sold it after few years.
@kevinbrennan2004
Жыл бұрын
Good point.
@Fiatmannen1
Жыл бұрын
Most likely value will drop like a stone.
@zzxx33mh
Жыл бұрын
But this must be on mind basically when you think to get one,..the price is really attractive..its just an Orange with Different cloth..
@wltrlg
Жыл бұрын
In principle, I’m not an adventure bike fan, but this one and the Moto-Morini X-cape, really look nice!
@risingphoenix1187
Ай бұрын
Good constructive review as always however, you should have listed absolutely everything that comes with the bike so viewers can see how much more they get for less in comparison to the mainstream leaders. I am not sure if the prices have changed in Europe but here in the UK this bike now costs £9,199.00! That's a steal!! Lol Keep up the good work and God bless. 👍🏿
@frederikmestdagh9421
11 ай бұрын
thank you, that is a realistic view of the 800mt, many others are a bit too overly positive about this bike
@NothingToProve
11 ай бұрын
Thank you! This would have been a good bike 10 years ago, now it's way below par.
@kellyabercrombie9769
Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t get rid of my Versys 650 fast enough. I found it to be a horribly uncomfortable motorcycle after about 45 minutes in the saddle. Otherwise, I agree with your assessment of it. It IS great value for the money. That said, I would bump up to this one in a heartbeat.
@peterholthoffman
Жыл бұрын
I very much liked the level of detail you gave here. I'm hoping I will find that you have a review of a more current version of this bike as there have been some fixes/improvements.
@MrKdr500
Жыл бұрын
CFmoto have been making the 790/890 platform for KTM since 2020...
@cirian75
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it needed a final session of calibration testing that it didn't get
@radadventure2606
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Love the German (Bavarian?) backdrop!
@tomtom8552
Жыл бұрын
Great review.I think it's an awesome package . You might as well look into the possibility of a review on CF Moto X-Cape 650, Id like to hear your opinion on it..
@johnDukemaster
Жыл бұрын
Yeah! That's a nice looking bike!
@darko156
Жыл бұрын
Comparing the weights you need to check if the weight of 800MT is measured with crash guards, plate, suitcases etc.
@chrishart8548
Жыл бұрын
They are probably not included in the weight. As centre stands never are either.
@desaparecido8
Жыл бұрын
Hi Scott, small correction from a KTM 790 Adventure owner: on 790/890 Adventure (which you should compare with this bike), you dont need to go into menu to activate the heated grips, instead you get an extra button on the handle bars. On 1290 Adventure it's in the menu
@johnDukemaster
Жыл бұрын
Steering wheel? ....sorry, couldn't resist!
@MrKdr500
Жыл бұрын
890 is menu, 790 is button....can install 790 grips on 890 though.
@shanekeat7473
Жыл бұрын
Just a bit confused with this, all my stats say its 95hp not 89hp, also the weight is including your pannier racks, bashplates and crashbars. Also, the fuel mapping has a free patch fix now developed by the Aussies and CFMOTO have said they are going to roll it out over the whole world shortly.
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
The numbers are dependent on the number of tree huggers that live in your country. If your numbers are higher then you have less tree huggers, lower then more tree huggers 😥
@dean-does-stuff-81
Жыл бұрын
Basically, I feel that the best way to sum up this bike would be to say it is a brand new bike that ktm built for the 2018 market. I really feel that it is as simple as that. Put this next to a 2018 ktm of the same engine size and I recon you would feel like they were exactly the same bike underneath you. ( with a tft screen )
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
Yep, just buy a used KTM 790 ADV...done.
@dean-does-stuff-81
Жыл бұрын
@@NothingToProve or just buy one of these 🤷♂️
@stylesbitchly9931
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thorough review. I will not support China’s splash into the motorcycling world. Just a personal choice.
@DJPTEXAS
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.....
@j.d.thompson3505
Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on the new Honda TransAlp?
@David-jv9gk
Ай бұрын
Do they suffer the KTM camshaft issues
@kkhalifah1019
Жыл бұрын
No remote preload adjustment for the rear suspension. On an ADV tourer, that's baffling... unless you're the type that doesn't switch between riding solo and riding 2-up with luggage very often.
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
Yea, that's why I pointed that out. It would frustrate me to death. :(
@jamiehalifax4954
2 ай бұрын
I agree 100% 👍👍..could an aftermarket shock have remote adjust ???
@thodoris3790
Жыл бұрын
Scott,we can see your enthusiasm in a bike you like,and the opposite.here,is the opposite
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
Yep, you got it. 👍
@seauryakumar
Жыл бұрын
In some countries the touring model costs as low as £10k equivalent. That's way to low and why people will consider to buy it. My favourite in the middleweight group is Tiger 900
@guustkeukenenmeubelmakerij
Жыл бұрын
I am looking for another bike and have the Moto Guzzi V85TT and this CF Moto 800mt on my list. How does this compare to the V85TT? there is nothing on the net...
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
That's because it doesn't compare to the Guzzi, get the Guzzi and never look back. At least that's what I'd do, I'd never buy the 800MT, it's not worth the money...imho. take care, Scott
@mabsbry1318
Жыл бұрын
The aprilia price seems to have come down - maybe check this because I think it will be more like 11k. Add hard luggage and it surely beats this bike?. This bike could rattle ktm sales?
@130romey
Жыл бұрын
is this TCS (traction control system)?
@defylifeadventure
Жыл бұрын
The KTM 790 Adventure was always criticised for it's lack of low down torque, something the 890 Adventure fixed. This being heavier, and with less power and torque, must be even worse in those scenarios.
@dougiequick1
Жыл бұрын
Its seriously as though they tried to make this motorcycle subpar on purpose just so it really cant compete with KTM's 890 or even the 790 I guess the market is the severely budget limited that insists on buying new? I would not even consider this pig personally. I would buy a low milage used KTM 790 or hopefully 890 everytime
@michaeljohndelmundo4741
Жыл бұрын
Goodluck finding one at this price. Not to mention all the added cost you need to spend on that low mileage 790 to get all the stuff that comes with this bike. There is a reason this bike is the 3rd most bought adv bike in Australia this year next to the tenere 700 and 890 adventure.
@delmonti
Жыл бұрын
...a touch of Honda Varadero going on there.
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
Yea, this bike had me thinking about a few other bikes too while I had it, sad really. They say "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", I say it's just copying & that's not a compliment.
@ioandragulescu6063
Жыл бұрын
@14:12 you still haven't tried the little v strom....
@ioannisrigas
Жыл бұрын
I wish you had made that review much earlier. I really count your opinion, and I wouldn't have bought this motorcycle. Overall I am not disappointed until now, but I have serious concerns about the future. I have made already 4K km in road trips and I do not use it as an everyday vehicle. I MUST say I have no complaints except the fuel mapping which is already solved...
@BERZERKERSV4
Жыл бұрын
How did you solve the fueling issue? Dealer?after market remap?
@ioannisrigas
Жыл бұрын
@@BERZERKERSV4 Τhere is official remapping from CF for EU. Available on dealers
@florinmanea2001
Жыл бұрын
@@ioannisrigas Is there any way to see what version of ECU mapping is installed on the motorcycle? I have tried to discuss this subject with the local dealer, but they don’t seem to know anything about an update. If you know the actual version installed on your motorcycle, would appreciate letting me know. Thank you.
Fueling issue in the “sweet spot” (4K-6k) ?… no sale
@nickolaslewis4416
Жыл бұрын
Read the comments above. A new map was distributed and its supposed to be really good.
@jackchristodoulou197
Жыл бұрын
I put a deposit on one but then cancelled the order a few days later, just wasn’t feeling right about it a little voice in my head kept saying it’s cheap for a reason
@nickolaslewis4416
Жыл бұрын
Go test ride one and get a feel for yourself.
@ruenjou
Жыл бұрын
Chinese bikes are making a lot of progresses but parts support might be an issue as far as I can guess
@nationalinterest1
Жыл бұрын
Plastic handgrips are angled down for some strange reason.
@straightup1234
Жыл бұрын
Front of bike based on preditor face!
@jobyEN
Жыл бұрын
Budget is my main concern and I still wouldn't get this one, sorry CFMoto.
@rzeznikkeynes5686
Жыл бұрын
Mt10 2022 please spin. Please, thnk u....
@flyingfish173
Жыл бұрын
Just too many variables for a world of so many choses. I'm not destitute and I'm not going to welcome China into what the world that motorcycling has strived to achieve in the year 2022. Third world will welcome CFM. Not my world as I know It. Good honest , cautious review!
@lyndonp3391
Жыл бұрын
Hey Scott..You might wanna get that growth on your neck checked out...looks hairy!. Either that or trim your chest hair! 😉
@ballerblocks
Жыл бұрын
Pls don't call it budget, this is the future 😜
@NothingToProve
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@greywolf9292
Жыл бұрын
It seems a bit overpriced to me even if you do get a top box and panniers, pretty hefty too for an 800. Considering the quality of the bikes it's competing with and it's uninspiring ride credentials as reviewed by Scott. If the new V-strom 1050 DE comes in around that price mark with its new dual purpose leanings, I'd see no reason for anyone to buy the CFMoto at all.
@ioandragulescu6063
Жыл бұрын
the 1050 DE is 15.8 k in Germany, base price, so that makes it 60% more expensive. Also it's 252 kilos now .... jeeez. I am very curios about the revamped v strom 700 that has just been spotted. Some even speculate 800 but that's anybodies guess right now.
@greywolf9292
Жыл бұрын
@@ioandragulescu6063 Thanks for putting me right, I'd only seen a speculative video by Motobob where he was guessing around the £11,000 mark. Yes the new 700/800? will be interesting to see, as will the rumoured 750 Transalp/Africa Twin. There'll be a massive market for both but will supply meet demand? Unless you pre order upon rumours few bikes now are actually putting rubber on showroom floors. I wanted a new KTM 890 Adventure R but delivery dates were speculative at best. I finally settled for a low milage used model, I specked it up to suit my needs and it wasn't that much more than the CFMoto but is way beyond it in handling, durability and power.
@waynev5097
Жыл бұрын
In Australia the Suzuki would be at least 50% more plus cost of bags. Also in Oz very few used bikes have a warranty even when purchased from dealer - whereas Cfm has 3 year warranty. However this is let down by very limited dealership network - and long distances between major cities here - at least 1,000km plus more. I read that on UK ktm sell the cfm???
@SpirosGlykas
Жыл бұрын
This looks like a KIA car on the front 😀
@FxRiderST
Жыл бұрын
Got it. The bike is meh :)
@cirian75
Жыл бұрын
Damn euro5 flatspots
@lovelessissimo
Жыл бұрын
Outside the unknown quality control and customer service, I'll spend my money on bikes which come from places that don't have active forced labor camps.
@DJPTEXAS
Жыл бұрын
Agreed....
@nickolaslewis4416
Жыл бұрын
I guarantee that you buy products that originate from countries with forced labor camps. Do a little research for yourself and then check the tags on your belongings. What's ironic is the fact that both Mexico and Canada prohibit imports from countries with forced labor camps while the US has not made such prohibition. And don't forget that these countries also own factories here in the US and sell you their products while skipping out on any tariffs or penalty. Check the label on your computer, XBOX, and video games, I think you may be surprised what you find!
@lovelessissimo
Жыл бұрын
@Nickolas Lewis I suppose you are right. Let me be more specific: I'd rather not spend money on bikes from countries that participate in "ethnic cleansing".
@kugangles9860
Жыл бұрын
Chinese company, questionable reliability, poor resale value, tiny dealer network. There's a reason why it's budget.
@gregmason2775
Жыл бұрын
Like the review. I won't buy anything made in China! Just me.
@nickolaslewis4416
Жыл бұрын
Your home must be empty! 🤣
@parkslope7189
Жыл бұрын
Chinese made bike you should be where they have listening device inside of them to spy on us jk lol
@chrissunde1104
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't take it for free!
@kennypool
Жыл бұрын
Cfmoto is great, cheap, loaded with extras. Then they put a cheap rubber "O" ring in the motor. And bam. Your stuck 19 miles from civilization. .
@occyman
Жыл бұрын
Lol….all motorcycles have heaps of Chinese parts in them even BMW. Why don’t you ride one before you show your uneducated bias
@summerforever6736
Жыл бұрын
Yea i would not trust it! Just do not give me a piece of mind as a Japanese bike would!
@occyman
Жыл бұрын
@@summerforever6736 yep I understand...and I am old enough to remember how people were about Japanese cars and motorcycles and now they are the best most reliable in the world. My CF Moto is every bit of quality my 1250 GS is.
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