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@AzTurboMini
2 жыл бұрын
Great review bud. Ever since I owned a 2014 Multistrada, I haven't really enjoyed bikes I've owned since near as much. The latest a 2017 AT DCT which feels and rides huge and I'm 6' 237lbs. I'm seriously considering year 2 of the Aprilia tuareg 660. Anyway, thanks again. Be careful and be blessed. 👍🙏
@TheMartinH13
2 жыл бұрын
Ian what's your thoughts on the new electric adv, the zero dsr/x ? Would really love to see you review that one-day.
@victorpapillon1487
Жыл бұрын
Does your wife love you loooong time?
@DennisMerwood-xk8wp
Жыл бұрын
Silly bike! Jack of all trades - master of none! No good off-road - and terrible street bikes! These tyres are dangerous in the wet! Get a Monster if you want a real Ducati - and be much happier!
@Carlisho
2 жыл бұрын
I love how you dont re-film or cut the parts where your daughter comes in, it gives the video a personal and friendly touch and shows how things dont always have to be 100% serious or professional, even if its your job.
@MLoms
2 жыл бұрын
I think it stayed professional, yet genuine.
@RadDadisRad
Жыл бұрын
I agree. The world needs to understand that people have families and these families are important.
@kaiboshvanhortonsnort359
Жыл бұрын
Yup, definitely the right call.
@horeica
Жыл бұрын
It was weird however.. "ignore the small child" he could've talk about her no problem like she's he's child and not like a child that wondered from the street. Something to consider. Otherwise a extremely well made review!
@honeyforce996
Жыл бұрын
Eh, plenty of time to play with the kid(s). Sunlight's burning & only so many takes to get in (especially when you've got audio interruptions like kid/wife/passing cars/birds/etc.). Decent balance of reviewer / dad for a random Ducati review video imo. Plenty of other videos can be made focusing on family-friendly vacation stuff etc. Kind of like when you're reading a spec sheet on a zoom call and your kid/dog walks into the room (yes you are cute, no not right now).
@JCintheBCC
2 жыл бұрын
Nice review, as always, but the highlight for me was family cameo. Especially in the wake of your video last year discussing the decisions around continuing to ride with a little one at home, it's refreshing to see family in the video and in a motorcycle video, generally. I think so often motorcycling is portrayed as a solo endeavor or something to do "with the boys (or girls)" and not something that is compatible with family. Thanks for keeping that in the video. Edit: For context, my 4yo is voting for me to get a Multistrada "because it has a seat for a little kid, so we can ride together!" Luckily, she's nowhere near reaching the shifter, yet, so I'm safe for a bit.
@cousteaufan
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian. The way you're going all in in an organised way makes all the difference with other reviewers. Hope to meet you one day to thank you in person. Greetings from Belgium
@f18a
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. And the spreadsheet is gold for potential buyers. The bike looks awesome, but it's super-expensive and seems to suffer a fatal flaw for an "adventure bike": out of the box you can't tour on it. Terrible seat and wind management. In my experience, the first can be made better, and usually much better. But fixing buffeting is sometimes not as easy as a bigger and/or adjustable windscreen. As an engineer, I was surprised when I ran into this with one of my bikes. So I personally would never buy one until the aftermarket proves that wind management can be solved.
@garysmith4660
Жыл бұрын
Great real world review. Thank you I’m currently looking at all these adventure bikes and the DesertX is high on my list 👍
@TanDevilz
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review! Was waiting for a in depth review not just a press ride review! Kudos!!
@wmbushUT
2 жыл бұрын
Im convinced with in a month or 6 there will be plenty of KZitem video's on "how to change your Desert X oil", " how to adjust your Desert X chain", "how to clean your Desert X air filter". That being said the only thing that would make we hesitate on buying it is if Yamaha announces the "raid" version of the T7 is coming to the USA. Great Chanel!! Keep up the work and im going to use your link to buy new MotoZ for my KTM 950 ADV, (that I want to upgrade to a Desert X or T7 Raid.. by spring.)
@BERZERKERSV4
2 жыл бұрын
You’re missing the point…. the average buyer already gets screwed by purchasing anything from the dealership.. especially the FU Dealer Fees….since the majority of the dealers are crying poverty, the latest ploy from the manufacturers is just that… no readily available service manuals, no basic maintenance chapters in the owners manual….. the dealer must perform all the work….next step… no tire valves… dealer installed air only…. Bet me?.. plus this is a mid teens $$$$ bike..not a mid twenties $$$ bike
@logangallagher7050
2 жыл бұрын
Looked forward to this review and you didn't disappoint.
@PwnstarUK
2 жыл бұрын
If you average the 4 rankings and sort lowest first you get the KTM 1st, Ducati 2nd, Tiger 3rd, Aprilia 4th, Norden and Africa twin joint 5th, and BMW last seems about right. It depends how much you value the image. I would have the Ducati purely on looks even if it was terrible. Maybe add an image ranking ??
@richm4402
2 жыл бұрын
With the exception of the BMW just reverse your ranking for reliability lol
@Beinhartwie1chopper
Жыл бұрын
In the introduction it was stated that the x is topheavy which makes sense due to the large ground clearance and big tank. Later the opposite was stated.
@brianpalumbo4364
Жыл бұрын
To adjust the shifter there is a second hole drilled in the lever where the quick shift bolts on. Simple to move and brings the lever up to be level with the foot peg.
@erosas887
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's the camera, but in third gear I believe my v-strom 650 has a similar acceleration like the one you did when overtaking the school bus. For me the Tuareg is still the best, except because I leave in Australia, so, they are asking almost $23k for it and the Ténéré that was sold 2 years ago for $15k here now costs $19500. The desert X $24k. In comparison to the V Strom 1050de, the desert X is a blast and destroys the V Strom.
@sspirito3130
2 жыл бұрын
When you compare the nearly $20k for a T7 that needs suspension work out of the box with the $24k for a Desert-X, the Ducati sounds like a bargain
@thailandfruitmonster7315
2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the growth of your channel.
@paramjotsingh26
Жыл бұрын
Great content Big Rock Moto, as always!
@peterwright3167
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your deep reviews of bikes. Much appreciated. This bike seems to be an awesome ADV bike. I will stick with my 2009 DL1000 for now though.
@sceviston
2 жыл бұрын
This is not meant to be critical as you have done an overall fantastic job. But, it's pronounced desmodromic not "desmodronic", as you repeated. "A desmodromic valve is a reciprocating engine poppet valve that is positively closed by a cam and leverage system, rather than by a more conventional spring." I think that stating the fueling is spot on without testing an all stock machine (one without a 2K Termi pipe) may (?) not be a true statement. Otherwise a really great review. Thank you for doing such a thorough and professional job.
@gfelippo
Жыл бұрын
Regarding your "best all around" comment, I've always thought of the R1250GS as the "best overall motorcycle" or "jack of all trades". It would be very interesting a Comparison between these.
@BillyD851
Жыл бұрын
Calling out Ducati on Right-to-Repair and the lack of service workshop manual is absolutely the right thing to do.
@David_McCaig
Жыл бұрын
In addition to the poor wind buffeting Duc could prolly do away with the graduated graphics on there too.
@DIEZ919191
Жыл бұрын
Great review!!!
@Otto-AutoPilot
Жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the Africa Twin on the road?
@Youtube_Globetrotter
4 ай бұрын
If you would to comapre this with the BMW F900GS. How would they compare in pros and cons?
@habibi750
3 ай бұрын
Yeah I would like to know as well
@thejourneyretold
3 ай бұрын
Ducati DesertX Rally is basically my dream bike and I will likely never buy one just because they wont let me work on it myself.
@pbunt1911
26 күн бұрын
If it’s really your dream bike, there’s nothing stopping you from getting one. The service manual is readily available online as are the diagnostic tools. The DDXR is also my dream bike and I really enjoy working on it myself. Go for it!
@kevinlancaster5714
2 жыл бұрын
It really annoys me that my 901 clutch is cable operated but my 690 is hydraulic. Also, the 901 crash bars require mounting to a boss on the engine. Not doing it. Id rather replace my tanks than my engine.
@pmjcr
2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Europe. Most of people around this channel already said something about these amazing reviews that Ian is making but I have to say that this one is one of the most comprehensive reviews, unbiased and best content quality I've seen on any media stream platform in the recent times. Keep up this amazing work!
@idratherberiding3456
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the right to repair. I have a Ducati, a 2013 Multistrada. When an engine light appeared in the dash a couple of years ago, the regular OBDII did not work on the Ducati. First you need to convert Ducati's 5 -prong connector (or was it 4?) to the OBDII. Second, it will not communicate with regular OBDII readers (my 2019 KTM 790 does work with regular OBDII readers). However, if there is a will there is a path. I don't have a Ducati dealer near me, so not being able to work on the bike myself is a deal breaker, pun intended. It took me several days of research along a period of months to come across a French dude who developed a software, JPDiag, that reads Ducati (and other brands) error codes and turns off oil and service lights. I downloaded the software, asked for the code, made a voluntary PayPal contribution to the dude, bought a specific OBDII cable per instructions (besides pin converter), and bingo. I got the code connecting my PC to the bike using the JPDiag software, and less than 50 dollars later, and one week for shipment, I had the part (air pressure sensor, horizontal cylinder) and in 30 minutes (a couple of panels removed around the tank, and plug and play) and the bike is back to good. Yes, I agree, if you can't adjust the chain or change the air filter, it is a deal breaker for an adventure motorcycle. In my case, it is the distancer to the dealer PLUS the $$$ for a service ANYONE could do following basic instructions. I apologize for the long comment. I will eventually make a video about this, I have photos of the entire process I went through. But I'm not an official youtuber, so I need time and most of all, the motivation to make videos after a long day of work in front of a computer. Love your channel dude.
@alanprice9938
2 жыл бұрын
I should have subscribed earlier - your reviews are exceptionally good, and really well thought out. Thank you for being one of the guys who sets increased standards, and tells us what we really wanna know. I’m gonna try a desert X in the coming weeks, but I love what I’ve seen here. What a bike, what a review, what a channel! Superb 👍
@trailrunnermike
11 ай бұрын
I just read 900 comments. I will summarize them all in one sentence. Ian is an excellent and honest communicator!
@glossblack1098
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Have watched many reviews on this bike and you are the first to mention the air filter access issue. That’s a deal breaker for me. Lots of dust here in Australia and I like to clean the air filter and air box regularly on my 690. It would be interesting to see how much a Ducati dealer would charge to just replace the air filter. Cheers
@JakeyJay26
2 жыл бұрын
💯
@anxiousappliance
2 жыл бұрын
You can do it yourself - first tie will be a pain - moving forward it will be a pain, but take less time.
@glossblack1098
2 жыл бұрын
@@anxiousappliance yeh definitely, hopefully less than an hour job. Someone will make a KZitem video on it.
@dancarlin5434
2 жыл бұрын
@@glossblack1098 knowing Ducati, it will require proprietary tools that only thier techs can buy
@dancarlin5434
2 жыл бұрын
Probably $250 or more
@phreenom
Жыл бұрын
Just bought a Desert X... After less than 100 miles (on the road so far) it has me questioning the need to even keep my Monster 1200s, it felt that good as a sport bike. And this is before it's even broken in and I have to go a bit easy on the throttle. I know it won't be as good off road as the fe501s I will be selling now, but I wanted something capable of being that "one bike". Definitely planning to get in to the dirt soon, but I'll be avoiding the tight technical single track I don't hesitate to take the Husqy on. I remember lifting the old WR250R at about 300lbs on a switchback, that sucked, so 500 lbs would likely be impossible in some situations... Can't have it all, but this certainly seems like the best bike for just riding everywhere; long trips, back country camping, urban romps... And it looks awesome!
@jamescampbell4334
11 ай бұрын
👍 I've had my '23 DDX for 5 months, did a 6k mile oil change yesterday. 😀 The DDX has been brilliant. I started riding motorcycles in the '70s, stopped riding in the late '80s. I've spent 5 hours in the saddle with a 20 minute break. I have the 3.3k full race Termignoni exhaust w/EVO tune, bash plate, crash bars. Weight with full tank weight is 485 lbs. Weight before crash bars was 478 lbs. Both of these weights are with passenger pegs removed.
@beer3029
9 ай бұрын
Can it power wheelie in 1st and 2nd gear?
@AdventureGlide
2 жыл бұрын
*_That's one heck of a review. Thanks, Ian. I really enjoy the long-form reviews. 2 thumbs up!_*
@viralsheddingzombie5324
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to relocate the air box with custom parts? Might be an interesting project to make the filter accessible.
@MagnumMuscle1000
Жыл бұрын
I will not buy any motorcycle from any manufacturer that refuses to sell me a service manual and expects me to use a dealer for routine maintenance. It's absurd.
@terenceharding4792
5 ай бұрын
Re the user manual not providing any information beyond, “go to the dealer”. I was able to download the Ducati service manual for this bike. Sorry, I forget the website where I found the manual. It cost me $50 for the download, but the manual is 1175 pages long and is the actual Ducati technician’s service manual. It is very detailed.
@cackle6682
2 жыл бұрын
That a 937cc Ducati is called "mid-sized adventure bike" shows how insanely big the ADV bike engines have gotten. I love it.
@Ritalie
Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how big and expensive, and heavy, all the adventure bikes are. I remember when I first started riding, my friend had an XT500 single, and i had an XS400 twin Yamaha, both had exactly 27 horsepower and he paid $300 for his absolutely mint 1977 Yamaha XT500. My 1977 Yamaha XS400 only had about 2500 miles on it, all original and it was free, as someone traded me for some work I did. I'm not sure who can own a $20,000 motorcycle? I'm in WA state, and ride a Hayabusa, because it was actually affordable, at $7,500 with only 5,200 miles on it, a 2008 model. Considering how much engineering you get on a Hayabusa, $7,500 for the amazing stump pulling torque engine (1340cc stock stroker engine with all titanium valves and 8 fuel injectors, counterbalanced) it's tough to justify trading it in to go down from 114 ft lbs of torque, to 68 ft lbs of torque for more than twice the price. New motorcycles are SO awesome, but they have such horribly low resell value, and it's just tough to justify $20,000.
@PimRademacher
Жыл бұрын
@@RitalieI’m definitely with you on this, but that’s why you should never buy one new at the dealer. Let someone else lose 30-40% of the value by buying it new. I think if you can buy a 2 year old Africa Twin, GS, Tenere etc you get an amazing bike for your money. I got a Tenere 700 and a 1250 GS for less than the price of a new GS. Both amazing pieces of engineering. I came from a 2010 Kawasaki Z1000 and this new generation adventure bikes is absolutely fantastic.
@chrisvodka2412
11 ай бұрын
@@PimRademacherthat is so damn true! I did the same with my R1250GSA, bought it 2/3 of its original price, not even a year old.
@ThisTall
9 ай бұрын
@@Ritaliethere’s a massive market for ADV riders because it lends itself to be less aggressive, older riders. So $20,000 really isn’t that bad.
@keyboarddancers7751
2 жыл бұрын
New *Big Rock Moto* content is always an event.
@fallinginthed33p
2 жыл бұрын
Make a cup of coffee, sit back and cast in on the TV.
@connorspies
2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one! Thanks for consistently putting together such kick-ass content, Ian!
@Dave-sw2dm
2 жыл бұрын
Ian, you put together the most comprehensive motorcycle reviews on KZitem. Definitely not one of these kid motovlogger wannabees. I like to watch daily rider with Zack for fun content, and you for serious down and dirty, everything I should consider when trying to decide between bikes.
@BigRockMoto
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@defylifeadventure
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the difference between Ian and some of the 'motovogger wannabes' (you mention), is that Ian is doing a public service. No ego, no bravado, just good solid information.
@rc51bigdaddy
2 жыл бұрын
Great and surprising review. I was not expecting Ducati to do so well with their first real ADV bike. I have owned a couple of more recent Ducati street bikes and both were impressive. I was very surprised that you feel that the Desert X is more confidence inspiring than your 890r Rally. Might be fun to do a video about that. Tempting bike but not enough to make me want to part with my 2022 890r. The 890r is still lighter and at this point has more aftermarket support. Happy that Ducati has made this bike though. Impressive!
@Ritalie
Жыл бұрын
I believe Ryan with Fort Nine, the biggest motorcycle channel on the internet, the man who talks and looks like Charlie Sheen, with his genius script writing, and productions, he actually bought a Desert X as his permanent bike I believe?
@BERZERKERSV4
2 жыл бұрын
The financial reality that a “properly” farkled DX (protection, tires, luggage etc) will be nearly @$30k OTD…. A price point where the DX has no right to be given its and the manufacturers grievous failures….
@ryanbrown7240
2 жыл бұрын
One thing I want to mention is about reliability. I had a Ducati multi-Strada Enduro 1200 model year 2017. It was one of the most amazing motorcycles I’ve ever had but left me stranded four separate times over the course of 12,000 miles and ended up needing a total engine rebuild and transmission rebuild at separate times. Over the two years I on the bike and spent four months in the shop. They ended up lemon lawing the motorcycle and I went with a BMW R 1250 GS. This is not a random scenario also a good friend of mine had the same motorcycle and had all sorts of electronica issues with it needing a whole new wiring harness it’s 16,000 miles! I love Ducati their motorcycles are about as emotional as they get but for a touring off-road adventure rig I would love to see more engineering go into reliability
@paultheboxer
2 жыл бұрын
Had similar issues with mine, from changing two radiators to the electronic fork being changed twice, the starter motor breaking in bits and finally the motor being dusted. Never completed a multi day ride without something going. It did spend a fair few months in the workshop also, must admit I did love that bike when it was working. But it has scarred me from going back, I have an 890r now.
@richm4402
2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Traded in my Ducati for an Africa Twin!
@joaosoares3719
2 жыл бұрын
Mate, how would you compare the DesertX with the Africa Twin 1100 in terms of off-road and sport riding manners?
@motozest7856
Жыл бұрын
My question exactly! Ian, say something🙂
@danielkramer8586
Жыл бұрын
Watch the video. He posts a comparison chart of all the bikes.
@tomarcher7520
2 жыл бұрын
Thorough and unbiased review as usual Ian. It seems to me that the Desert X really highlights how we're forced to make tradeoffs with any ADV bike. Not surprisingly, Ducati seems to have emphasized style and performance over function, reliability and ease of maintenance. And for that reason, this bike would never be on my list of choices based on the types of riding/adventuring that I do. Remove the fuel tank to service the air filter? A non-starter for me. It also seems that adding luggage is going to be difficult. In the end, it kinda seems like they've developed an "adv/rally" bike, rather than one that is suited to hard core adventuring. I just completed 8 days solo in SE Oregon in very remote areas on the Tenere 700. I had very little concern about reliability, the ability to get parts (in some reasonable timeframe), or to get the bike running so I could get it back home. I can't say that I would have had the same confidence on the Desert X. Beautiful bike nonetheless.
@ciocanelwar
Жыл бұрын
Suzuki VStrom 650 is a great bike (had one), the filter was under the tank and the only annoying thing was the plastics that you had to remove. Got to test and look at the Desert x, it seems easy to get to the filter. Also the AfricaTwin, has aome plastics that are annoying to remove in order to get to the filters.
@tomarcher7520
Жыл бұрын
@YouTubin you're correct, no first-hand experience with the Desert X. it's based on my and others overall impression of Ducati reliability compared to other brands. Is anyone going to argue that Ducati reliability is as good as the Japanese brands - Yamaha and Honda? I suspect not. Nothing wrong with that, but for those of us that travel in remote areas, it's a trade off many of us are not willing to make. Time will tell I guess.
@anxiousappliance
Жыл бұрын
They're easy to work on. aprt from the desmo - so every 18-20,000 miles it costs something - like every other bike.
@justathinker8669
Ай бұрын
Actually, I've heard that the new Ducatis are reliable.
@Jeremybaland
Жыл бұрын
I ride about 20k miles a year. I do all my own maint. otherwise it would be extremely expensive just to ride. I would never buy a bike I couldnt work on. When all the manufactures make it so you cant do your own maintenance I will stop riding all together after 30+ years of riding a motorcycle.
@ryanmalone2681
2 жыл бұрын
THIS is the review of this bike I’ve been waiting for. This is the one I find the most valuable and trusted.
@crazieN8
2 жыл бұрын
Your reviews are insanely awesome. Man you go deep into it. Much appreciation for all your work getting these videos out, not only testing and reviewing but there's a mountain of behind the scenes we don't see. Thank you brotha, I'm currently looking to buy an adventure bike and You're doing a great deal into helping make that educated decision
@mickleblade
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your comments about servicing, it's a deal breaker for me
@bikersquest
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely do hate the direction motorcycle manufacturers are going in terms of right to repair. I heard Suzuki even stopped allowing customers buy service manuals which is just sad IMO.
@jaredandersen82
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video - well done!! I’d love to see a follow up video dissecting it against the competition more!! Tiger 900 / 890AR / Africa Twin….that’d be so helpful and I know you could do a great job keeping it objective!!
@bseidem5112
Жыл бұрын
See Fortnine's vid on this bike.
@MRGS48
2 жыл бұрын
Great review Ian as usual. For the base price of around 17K I still would go with a BMW GS 1250… If you farkle it out you prolly come close to the GSA…
@lhurst9550
2 жыл бұрын
Should I buy one? No, I already have one....
@paul.vanhout57
2 жыл бұрын
I have had my DesertX for about 1.5 months and 3500 miles. Your review is insightful and balanced. Seat comfort not an issue for me and the wind noise while noticeable is tolerable with ear plugs (where all the time anyway). Complaint about the challenges for DIY maintenance is legit and hoping the community addresses this. Well done👍
@kee7678
Жыл бұрын
Did you try the Triumph Tiger RP900 ? Curious how you felt it compared.
@paul.vanhout57
Жыл бұрын
@@kee7678 - I did consider the Tiger. It is an excellent all rounder but I felt the DesertX was more off-pavement capable and a few pounds lighter. Also, I have a Street Triple RS and was looking for something different to have in the garage.
@kee7678
Жыл бұрын
@@paul.vanhout57 wow. MORE off road capable ??? wow!!! Tha'ts shocking to me. congrats on your new bike.
@UmustBk1dd1ng
Жыл бұрын
Maintenance costs will be a real issue for a lot of people. I own 3 Ducati street bikes, and if I did not do all of my own maintenance, I could not afford to own them. My local dealer charges $160+ an hour, 1 hour minimum, (and they won't work on older Ducati's), so if owners follow the manual on the DesertX they could be spending a couple of hundred dollars a week having chain adjustments and air filter cleanings. Also, the nearest dealer to me in Central Florida is a two hour round trip. I'm only aware of three dealers within a 270 mile radius, so the sparse dealer network is an issue. If one does go adventure riding, where in South America or on the Alaskan Highway or in the deserts of Africa will you find a dealer every few hundred miles to perform the simple owner maintenance? For my older Ducati's (2001 - 2012), the owner's manuals had detailed technical data and all of the shop manuals and parts manuals were freely available online, but this new effort to force people into having to go into an expensive dealership service department to do basic owner maintenance is disconcerting and impractical. It sort of kills any thought I might have had of swapping out one of my owner maintainable road bikes for an off road capable DesertX with the "Do Not Touch" sign on the mechanical parts.
@shoakimoto2517
2 жыл бұрын
Great review Ian. Glad you mentioned the maintenance issues with the airfilter change. Taking the tank off to access the air filter might be acceptable on a street-oriented bike but not on one you expect to take on the dirt often.
@brucerossonthetube
Жыл бұрын
My Africa Twin is not much better. I must remove both side fairings and loosen the tank. So depending on how thisbis accessed it might not be any worse.
@DrGonzo-vq2zi
Жыл бұрын
@@brucerossonthetube There is a video now on youtube where a guy documents the filter change. It looks pretty horrific. Hopefully there is a simpler way but it looks really time consuming and frustrating. He had to remove the ecu and even then, didnt have good access to the bolts for the cover over the filter.
@brucerossonthetube
Жыл бұрын
@@DrGonzo-vq2zi i see that there was another one on KZitem where he can do it in 20 minutes. I dont see it as a deal breaker.
@noostNL
Жыл бұрын
T7
@Ritalie
Жыл бұрын
I ride a Hayabusa and you have to take off the front half of the fairing to change the oil filter, which is really irritating. Fortunately I think changing oil filters is how people destroy their engines, because they lose prime unless you hold the throttle wide open and do a "flood clear" mode and crank the engine for 30 seconds until the oil light goes out before you take off. Nobody seems to know that all fuel injected engines have "floor clear" mode if you hold the throttle at 100% and crank it, it shuts off all the fuel. Reading the forums, some new Ninja bikes lose prime once you install a new oil filter, and you have to loosen the oil filter and crank the engine to restore the "prime" of the oil pickup tube in the engine. I would find it difficult to trust any dealer with oil changes, because they obviously aren't going to worry about if your engine is running dry for 10 seconds after an oil change. I think it's worth the hassle to do it yourself, so you know what kind of oil you used, and you didn't start your engine with the oil light on.
@sv650nyc7
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely outstanding review. This is a benchmark for how all adventure motorcycle reviews should be done. Pick up test, handling impressions, air filter location and serviceability, cost of ownership and accessories, low speed behavior and steering lock range, fuel range, balance and subjective feel of weight, etc. You hit all the important points of how an experienced rider would assess a bike. Kudos to Ducati for lending you one out and they should quickly make sure to offer a comfort seat option and an expandable windshield so this bike can become a true long distance adventure tourer.
@hypnotic1151
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 187 cm and one of the reasons to choose this bike was how well it blocked the wind. Not saying it is not noisy but there is no pull back. Head and shoulder are well protected ... Still waiting for the bike to arrive due to the uge demand... But during the test drive, even at highway speeds I felt quite confortable. PS: great review! Easy bike to fall in love after you ride it.
@elgeffe503
2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I'm the exact same height, own a T7 and the wind buffeting is terrible! I've just installed a smaller screen so I'm praying that helps haha. You think the fact that the Ducati's screen is smaller (I think) helps with the noise?
@hypnotic1151
2 жыл бұрын
@@elgeffe503 not with the noise. But the wind does not hit you directly. I tried the T7 also and it is not the same I agree. It is hard to explain you need to try it to understand it.
@DorkintheRoad
2 жыл бұрын
Bro, you have to stop setting the bar so damn high. There's almost no point to the rest of us doing bike reviews at all. I am continually in awe of your thoroughness.
@BigRockMoto
2 жыл бұрын
nah, the more the merrier!
@iananderson1422
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ducati feels owner should bring their bike to the dealer for a chain adjustment is nuts. I have done all my own maintenance on my bikes for years. For this reason alone this bike is a no go for me. Premium price and outrageous service costs kills this bike to me. Thanks for your great reviews. Always top notch.
@Romenet310
Ай бұрын
It’s a shame too. They essentially discourage their own customers from doing simple support. Actually mostly what they do is lose customers with this type of attitude.
@Jeremybaland
Жыл бұрын
Would not buy. Anyone that is a serious rider that puts a lot of miles on a bike is going to do their own maint. The fact Ducati doesnt really allow this is contributing to this sport dieing.
@PooyanDoozandeh
2 жыл бұрын
You raised a good point about do-it-yourself maintenance, and how Ducati is no longer considering that. I’d definitely consider this when I’m buying a bike or a car, because I’d like to do the maintenance myself! We should probably look into older models that are still in the market!
@anxiousappliance
Жыл бұрын
Maintenance on these bikes, apart from the valves and belts, is dead simple. No mysteries apart from tanl removal to get to the upper cylinder plug.
@tincho1979
8 ай бұрын
Hola Ian. Me gustó mucho tu review de la Desert X. Gracias por compartir tus opiniones y experiencias. En mi caso tengo una KTM 790 Adv R. Y me gusta mucho. Creo que las diferencias entre la 890 Adv R, y la Desert X son más de gusto, y no porque una sea mucho mejor que la otra. Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
@simonwebb3425
2 жыл бұрын
Another great review, Ian. The best I have seen or read on the Ducati DesertX. Many thanks for the thoroughness and objectivity, as always. I bought the Ténéré World Raid rather than this for a host of reasons, despite the many attractions of the DesertX.
@eugenux
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the world raid compared to all the current mid-size adv bikes. It seems that the new suspension does change its capabilities a lot!
@dstubby82
2 жыл бұрын
After thinking about it I'm not sure (and I say this with no malice) that I would classify this as an "adventure bike". Might need a new discriptor for an ultra high performance dual sport that isn't designed for the "adventure audience". I don't see anyone riding across 3 states with 60 lbs of gear on this pony. But that's fine because that's not what it's designed to do. This looks like an adrenaline machine from skin to core. So if blood ringing in your ears via dirt or black top is your thing, this is the bike for you. :)
@painsrides3616
2 жыл бұрын
If I can't work on a motorcycle(especially one to be used off-road), its off my buy list, no matter how good it might be.
@SKgeostrat
2 жыл бұрын
Ian, another excellent video. For me, the lack of a service manual and stupid placement of the air filter show that Ducati has good engineers who don't understand offroad riding. Who wants to buy a bike for adventure riding, if you cant't clean the air filter and change the oil out in the bush? It just makes no sense and will severely limit the sales of this bike to this market segment.
@hamsterclamper
2 жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive review, as always. I believe those front brakes are ‘only’ M50s; Stylemas are the next step up👍
@TallRider101
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, waited for this one. One to consider Ian, please can you make comparison with Tenere 700? If yo do you will be the only one. Regards
@juanjosegrafico
2 жыл бұрын
In Costa Rica ,we get 3 years warranty unlimited mileage and thats for all the European bikes (BMW , KTM , APRILIA , DUCATI , MV AGUSTA,etc). Awesome video by the way! thank you
@lifesjourneyat50
2 жыл бұрын
Great as usual...Making it hard to choice between the KTM 890 R and DesertX.....tough decision
@jesseonamotorcycle
2 жыл бұрын
Desert X 😅
@jettadsg1
2 жыл бұрын
A brilliant analysis. The term “review” does not do justice to your comprehensive and insightful commentary. Ducati made a sharp call putting this the bike into your hands early. Here in Oz the Desert X hasn’t landed yet but it is eagerly anticipated. More so now in my case.
@narenshivashankar
8 ай бұрын
Hi.. Great review as always. My question is , what would you choose as a overall bike between - Desert X & Africa twin 1100 Adventure base model ? TIA
@klimistsakiridis2409
2 жыл бұрын
What a terrific job you are doing sir! I really hope you're rewarded for it and you keep on! PS: Might have been answered somewhere before but do you have any plans on reviewing the new (2021-) KTM 1290 Super Adventure S/R? I'm really looking forward to hearing you talk about that bike. Cheers!
@kjonasson10
2 жыл бұрын
I second a need for a 21+ 1290 SAR review. Was considering the DX/1290SAR/AT1100 standard as a replacement for 2007 990 Adventure S. Went with the 1290SAR however as I could not wait for the DX.
@klimistsakiridis2409
2 жыл бұрын
@@kjonasson10 DX seems like the perfect bike. If it weren't for the lack in proper wind protection... :(
@kjonasson10
2 жыл бұрын
The 1290 SAR is a bit better then the 990 regarding wind imo. I have OEM screen.
@klimistsakiridis2409
2 жыл бұрын
Have you hade reliability issues as a KTM owner? I really think of going for a 1290SAS but I’m very intimidated by what I hear about the brand’s reliability
@kjonasson10
2 жыл бұрын
@@klimistsakiridis2409 No, not really. Only a slight vibration from the fairing around the headlight. It´s a great bike an these 160 horses are like an addiction. But then it can be buttery smooth as well.... kzitem.info/news/bejne/0nqema2BanOTpoI Check this out ;)
@michellefleming6819
2 жыл бұрын
I own a desert x , I agree with all your comments . and as a mechanic in queensland australia am pissed off that I can't get even basic specs for maintenance . owner's manual says go to dealer to have chain adjusted..On the ride from brisbane to darwin .3500 km's there is no DEALER . Australia is a BIG sparsely populated country. We need information to keep our bikes running,, please ducati..
@JordanLedbetter
2 жыл бұрын
Should have included the Tenere in your comparison, IMO. Cost is just one of the factors and the Tenere is one of the most popular mid-sized ADV bikes out right now and will undoubtedely be on the short list for many buyers in this segment.
@BERZERKERSV4
2 жыл бұрын
BINGO !!!!
@silveriojohan
2 жыл бұрын
Desert X looks 1000% like a Tenere 700. Everywhere
@massi0729
2 жыл бұрын
Recently bought a new T7, waiting for the shipment. I'm stoked for the next riding season. :-) The best thing about the T7 is there will be spare parts available for years.
@fredrik999z
2 жыл бұрын
Yamaha T7 have nothing of the electronics, low power and crappy suspension so it's much more of a budget bike. Aprilia Tuareg 660 is a better comparison since you have similar electronics and suspension setup but at a much lower price point then Desert X.
@silveriojohan
2 жыл бұрын
@@fredrik999z Ducati bikes are Ferraris, beautyful and full of technology but unreliable.
@H.A..
Жыл бұрын
"Visit a Ducati Dealer or Authorized Service Centre" Sure, I'll just drop by one of the many Ducati Service Centres when on a long haul in Central Asia. Oh wait, there are none over there. I mean for god's sake, even here in Canada we have a just a handful of them with thousands of mile between them. Better not run into any problems while out there on a Ducati or you might have to tow it all the way back to Bologna for service. Great review though, very thorough and informative. Thanks!
@floboboman
2 жыл бұрын
Do you ever wake up and think man... I have the best job ever? Thanks for another great review.
@BigRockMoto
2 жыл бұрын
yes!
@swi2009ca
Жыл бұрын
wait WHAT? one can't figure how to adjust the chain? so one need to take it to the dealer every time?? That my friend is BS. I understand the air filter and the valves but the chain....no way Great VIDEO Though :) Keep it up Jan
@assassin11fly
2 жыл бұрын
Very good review Ian! I am waiting for an in depth review of the Moto Guzzi V85TT from you. Please do it soon! :D
@rickvann3489
Жыл бұрын
There is know damn way it cost 1k plus to adjust the valves. My Detroit DD15 (diesel engine in my freightliner) cost $300 So Ducati can kiss it... to expensive to own and maintain off my list of bikes to own
@RL-un3yq
2 жыл бұрын
Ian, great content as usual. Would love to hear your thoughts on 890 Adv R. I'm liking the 23 redesign. My thoughts are to use it as a daily commuter and for BDRs. What are your thoughts on reliability? Seems like you have had various issues with your 790 R, Norden, and even your 890 Rally. Forums seem to report all kind of issues. I'm guessing most people are too busy enjoying their bike to sing its praises. Shock seals, brakes, dirt ingestion, TFT moisture, clutch oiling issues, etc. All add up to be concerning. Makes me want to consider the AT or maybe even the T7 for Japanese reliability and just budget for suspension upgrades. I fear that with those, they just won't be as spirited/fun. Maybe your insight could help guide me. I want a fun and offroad oriented bike. This would replace my KLR650. I also own a 23 500 EXCF. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
@gregicon5442
2 жыл бұрын
Ditto - I'm also considering a '23 890 Adv R, would love to see a real world review...
@ryanmalone2681
2 жыл бұрын
$7k for a full Akro exhaust on a Panigale V4S. It’s crazy. Went with a BMWS1000RR and put a full Arrow exhaust for $2k. I don’t get their accessory pricing. No heated grips on a $20k bike? What are they thinking???
@kellyheath6293
2 жыл бұрын
Your channel just keeps getting better and better. Your hard work is evident in how thorough your reviews are. You deserve many more subscribers, in my opinion. As a dedicated enthusiast I just want to say thank you.
@mikefusco7215
2 жыл бұрын
I think Ducati not addressing owner maintenance speaks to the target demographic. Sadly, most people who purchase Ducatis probably don't work on their own bikes and Ducati knows it.
@sierrarider
Жыл бұрын
I have had for a couple of weeks now and I can say it has been the most fun I have ever had on a motorcycle!! It feels extremely light and flickable with a ton of power - more fun than my KTM 500excf!
@MattKritzstein
2 жыл бұрын
I was sold in this bike when I first saw it, and even more so after your review...UNTIL you got to the maintenance part. Completely unacceptable that the tank needs to come off for an air filter change, and that I need to go to the dealer, even worse. They are selling an off road 'adventure' bike that will get dirty, particularly here in the SW USA, filter maintenance is a big deal, often done in the middle of trips (we often pack spare filters as standard tool kit stuff), for that alone I unfortunately have taken this bike off my purchase list in 2023...maybe Ducati will improve on this down the road, but I would bet they dont care to make it more user friendly and are happy keeping this as a boutique ADV bike. They're Italian...form over function is the norm :)
@shassabo
2 жыл бұрын
“It’s about the most fun I’ve had on an adventure bike.” Yeah, that sums it up. Great review! The touring screen just started shipping BTW.
@PovilasPanavas
7 ай бұрын
Do you mean the one offered by Ducati? It's just 2.5cm higher. Does it actually makes any difference with buffeting?
@shassabo
7 ай бұрын
For some it made a difference, but I had to go to a short rally screen.
@PovilasPanavas
7 ай бұрын
@@shassabo thank you for your reply. So, shorter screen removes the buffeting and leaves only clean air?
@turinhorse
Жыл бұрын
Meh pass. Never had a Ducati that lasted. Just tons of little problems over the years. And for 20000$? Get a BWM
@brianq103
2 жыл бұрын
Ian, you mention the fueling being spot on, but I would take that with a grain of salt. When I had the stock exhaust on my Monster 1200, it wanted to stall and was very lumpy down low. I added the Termignoni exhaust and it sounded great but the big benefit was it also came with a remap that fixed all the fueling issues the bike had. If this Termi comes with the same remap, I would try to test one without the Termi to see if the bike has the same feel.
@Back2TheBike
Жыл бұрын
Ive just traded my Monster R with Termi for a MS V2S. On the R its a no brainer, sounds better, lighter and 3hp gain. I considered the Termi for the MS but after extensive research, it seems to add very little performance, reduces negligible weight and doesnt sound significantly better than the stock unit. And that for a premium of £1500 or so. Seems an expensive badging exercise! I'm happy to be corrected if someone's done it.
@jamesfairmind2247
Жыл бұрын
After a de-cat and a less restrictive exhaust the engine will become a lot sharper. The problem with the Desmo valve system is that a lot depends on the skill and experience of the actual mechanic doing it. Just because the mechanic may be a Ducati trained mechanic does not guarantee that he or she will do it to 100 per cent. As a long term Ducati owner, this is a significant downside to owning an adventure bike with Desmo valves. Fine for guys who only go to the same local guy they trust but not so good for those travelling around the world. It will be down to luck if the dealership in outer Mongolia can or cannot do it right. They may do it perfectly but they may not.
@Ably1972
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian for adding the basic maintenance info and costs to your reviews! I believe you have taken your incredible videos to a whole new level of service to your subscribers! On to the bike: desmo valves and possibly timing belt engine no thank you! For all it’s impressive features it’s time for Ducati to modernize their power plants, if this bike had hydraulic lifters and cam chains I would buy one tomorrow!
@jetlee7743
Жыл бұрын
astonished they dont illuminate controls on handle bars at night. not acceptable Ducati. new seats look better in 2023. that wind screen needs to be fixed. engineers think we are all 5 7 tall. no passenger side grips..blah. looks nice ..i have Desert sled currently
@brook_slider
Жыл бұрын
Nice review Ian. Having owned a Ducati and then moving to KTM as my riding preference changed to off road I saw potential in this bike. However the one thing that is a deal breaker is the dreaded maintenance. I would not buy a bike I intend to use for off-road if I cannot access the air filter quickly and easily. I like to perform maintenance on my own bike also as it makes me feel more connected. Ducati are making it clear that this is a premium bike and therefore would not suit people like this by providing no maintenance manual. Harley is premium also however many owners are hands on and I know of many Ducatistas that are that way inclined. Bad move IMO by Ducati and this will not swing ex- Ducati owners back such as myself.
@H.A..
Жыл бұрын
I believe you are mistaken bud, Ducati do provide a maintenance manual. It reads "Visit a Ducati Dealer or Authorized Service Centre" on every single page. Oh... I see what you mean now.
@brucerossonthetube
Жыл бұрын
While i have not done mine yet, i watched the video where it takes 20 minutes. Honestly, it looks no worse than my Africa Twin was.
@vidablue734
Жыл бұрын
Although i do appreciate your solid and somewhat enthusiastic review of this Desert X, I have to add my two cents to how high you rank it, on your chart, off road. Most particulary against the KTM & the Norden 901. I will have to differ with you and simply state that other than the smaller , much lighter displacement bikes like the Tureg (and the Tenere, Non on your chart) I will have to wager that the KTM ADV R & the Norden, when resonably equiped, and not with the uprated suspensions, will still run circles around that Duc on off roading technical terrain. I took my loaded and luggaged Norden on the NE BDR back in early September and she was nothing short of spectacular! The lower center of gravity, along with other real attributes make these bikes the kings on/"off road". i say this with humility, respect and sheer confidence! Peace out! (PS I own a multisrada and love Duc's, fyi)
@racnruss
2 жыл бұрын
Love the comparison chart for these middle weight adv bikes. Are the weights from a trusted scale or manufacturers claims? Thank you, and love the content you are putting out there.
@bh.76
Жыл бұрын
Only Ducati would build an ADV that requires hours just to clean your air filter. Sounds like an extremely poor design.
@beborodner930
2 жыл бұрын
I love the level of detail and honest opinion you give in your reviews. This Desert X was one I've been waiting for. My opinion is that it's the best looking adv bike out there. Glad to hear the performance is there to match it's good looks. I'm frustrated to hear about the maintenance/dealership bias buyers are almost forced into. Part of pleasure of bike ownership, for me, is doing the maintenance. Only Yesterday went to flush the transmission fluid on my wife's car only to find there was no dipstick. This infuriated me.. And then today in this review you brought up similar issues happening in the motorcycle world. This attitude from a manufacturer is becoming a BIG deciding factor with my future purchases. THANK YOU Ian for having the large gonads to bring up this point..
@tommaples9174
2 жыл бұрын
I own a 1987 Cagiva Elephant. So yes I would love to own the Desert X motorcycle. I rarely go the dealership but owning a bike like this you have to be able to figure it out and customize your way. Be self reliant.
@mikeguitarification
2 жыл бұрын
Tremendous review video. Very thorough and really appreciate the comparison matrix. You are definitely one of the better reviewers out there.
@timmahsound
2 жыл бұрын
The right to repair is a very big issue! Red flag for me, won't buy this, BMW of Apple because of it.
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