Nope. Since we only can afford 1 car, around 100mls is a silly distance, even in a small country as the Netherlands. Most my families live 120mls apart, so back and forth 240mls. That is 2 times on the charger in 1 trip every time. A fun weekend trip to Brussels or Bonn is 6 times at the charger which makes that fun weekend impossible. The mini is fun as second car or just a "in city" transport. On top of that, the mini is $38.000 in the Netherlands. No thanks. The Fiat 500E is around the same price but can do 200mls.
@Milhouse77BS
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, for city car with occasional trip of less than 200 miles away
@davva360
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. It would only be useful as a commuter car. If that’s what you need that’s fine. I would want the ability to road trip without using an alternate vehicle. I honestly would love one if the range was about 220 miles at 70mph. Have owned two original minis and loved them but never went BMW mini because they are impossible to work on.
@brandenflasch
2 жыл бұрын
@@davva360 road tripping in the mini is quite easily on charger dense routes
@carlfe4891
2 жыл бұрын
The SE is actually fun and engaging, unlike my last two EVs. I never understood driving for enjoyment/relaxation until I got this car. You'll have more fun and get effortless efficiency on those 45-55mph alternate routes.
@chijen2010
Жыл бұрын
Build quality is also way higher than most other EVs.
@brandenflasch
2 жыл бұрын
Cooper SE is a great second EV. Most households don’t need 2 long range EVs.
@ravitoday
2 жыл бұрын
That is such an excellent point. more like most households do not need 2 long range cars and can easily ( if they have a parking garage) convert their second car to a low-medium range EV like leaf or Mini
@rsdwall466
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true. This is such a important point ignored by many.
@linusa2996
2 жыл бұрын
Most people don't own 2 cars period
@brandenflasch
2 жыл бұрын
@@linusa2996 it is extremely common in the US for couples to each have a car.
@ravitoday
2 жыл бұрын
@@brandenflasch That is true.
@theredmonkey
2 жыл бұрын
I always like seeing you going 70 and people passing you like you are standing still.
@FeminalPanda
2 жыл бұрын
Yea, im planning on getting the 2023 version and i am driving 80-90mph to work, will see how much it eats up the charge at that speed. Maybe this will make me slow down.
@NurburgringUP
2 жыл бұрын
I’m still daily driving my 2016 i3 with a whooping 16kwh usable battery and 70 miles of range on a good day, no problem at all!
@johnv9854
2 жыл бұрын
I just completed a 125 mile trip on a single charge and had 30 miles of range to go. It was mostly highway at 55 mph and then some two lane roads with traffic lights every few miles, but also 55 mph.. Country road settings.. I had no traffic and it was a easy drive. I expected to stop around the 85 mile mark at a DC charger but at that point I had 40 miles to go and 55 miles of range.. by the time I arrived I had 30 miles of range left.. This car loves light driving and moderate amount of braking and you can get a lot more miles out of it.. I think if I was able to continue on I could have easily gotten 160+ miles out oif it.. As a daily driver this car is absolutely a blast to drive and has so far only cost me about $35 a month to drive an average of 1000 miles per month.
@brandenflasch
2 жыл бұрын
When we bought one and needed to drive it ~700 miles from Florida to North Carolina, I expected it to not be very fun, but it was surprisingly easy! (There is a video of this trip on my channel)
@macbayboy
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 Mini SE and did a road trip in it from Georgia to Florida (I-75 corridor) and it was a pretty relaxing drive for me. This trip is normally a 7ish hour drive, but took about 12 hours with charging. For me, the stops gave me an opportunity to stretch my legs more and break up the monotony of the long drive. I plan on taking another trip in the Mini SE to Fort Lauderdale in a few weeks (should be about 14 trip with charging).
@rsdwall466
2 жыл бұрын
@@macbayboy is that not a significant time penalty ? Would you be able to share what was the average 15-80% charging time ?
@alpeggio
2 жыл бұрын
@@macbayboy I'll second that, don't mind that either.. it's just nice to have a reason to strech your legs and have a coffee.
@jwvandegronden
Жыл бұрын
@@rsdwall466great question! Would love to hear that too. Im in the market for a small battery ev and these road trip time panelties are my biggest _worry_ so to speak.
@theredmonkey
2 жыл бұрын
An EV like this suits 98% of daily drivers. Most people drive about 13500 miles a year so if its everyday is only 37 miles a day. If you only use weekdays, then that's 51 miles a day. Charging at home would handle it.
@chijen2010
Жыл бұрын
With Covid and work at home, I was driving 4,000 miles a year max and still am.
@royd63uk
2 жыл бұрын
All these people who say they want to drive 2-3hrs without stopping are seriously risking getting tired and having an accident. Chillout, charge and have a break.
@bastion9514
2 жыл бұрын
I love Minis and yes the range limitation will be an issue in the evolution of EV vehicles. However perfect as a city car and perfect for younger city folks that just don't need to travel long distances on a regular basis
@brandenflasch
2 жыл бұрын
Easiest range test you’ll do all year unless you go to California for an MX-30
@adamchoi8136
2 жыл бұрын
Quite the nail bitter watching this. Glad you made it. I’ll be on my first trip going 120 miles tonight and have an electrify America stop planned mid route. Was hoping goto make it to the destination without stop but probably will need to.
@voltspc9394
2 жыл бұрын
“65 in jersey in feb” I’m from PA and I agree, that’s absolutely crazy warm for feb
@jamespaul2587
2 жыл бұрын
That's good news Tom, meeting EPA range estimates at 70 mph, which is definitely not a speed to drive for peak efficiency. If you were doing 55 to 60, you might get 10% or 15% more range, but not many vehicles travel that slow speed on highways anymore!
@InsideEVsUS
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we understand that driving slower would increase the range. But very few people drive slower than 70-mph on highways in the US. In fact, most people often drive faster.
@jamespaul2587
2 жыл бұрын
@@InsideEVsUS exactly, I don't think it's even safe to drive 55 anymore :) my point is that it's impressive to meet EPA numbers at 70, lower speeds and driving around town would be even more efficient
@Chris21709
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Tom! Waiting (and waiting) to see what Mini can do with a dedicated electric platform.
@markmcintosh7095
2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this test . Thanks
@LearnwithmikeCoUk1
2 жыл бұрын
I am using my Mini electric for driving lessons and covering up to 30000 miles per year and the range of the Mini is perfect almost. In winter we sometimes need to add a 10% top up to comfortably complete the days work. Just drive the Mini in normal mode and enjoy the drive.
@kjuddnelson5426
2 жыл бұрын
We got our 2022 Mini SE in late November and it's been a great 2nd vehicle. It's used to commute round trip 16 miles a day so no issue for us with range. We very rarely take it in the highway. I would think the majority of folks purchasing this vehicle do not regularly take long highway trips. I ran an errand yesterday, 14 miles round trip, and used just 2 miles of range. I left with 93 miles displaying, arrived at my destination with 98 miles showing, and returned home with 91 miles displayed.
@kjuddnelson5426
2 жыл бұрын
One other note: We swapped out the standard summer performance tires for all seasons, a must in New England, but I'm sure there is an impact to range.
@alexkarout1586
2 жыл бұрын
wow thats crazy, did you have regen braking on?
@GreenvilleGuy
2 жыл бұрын
That range meter is affectionately called the Guess-o-meter, or GOM. It notoriously underestimates your actual range. You can set your trip computer to display actual battery-% using the button on your left stalk, which you will find to be a much more reliable reading of how much juice you are using.
@Olddahg
2 жыл бұрын
Great review Tom!
@ScottLeapman
2 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss my MINI SE. I ordered it sight-unseen based on the original announcement of a modern BEV MINI when even my dealer had no substantial info about it. It was fun to drive but ultimately traded it in for a Polestar 2 and haven't looked back.
@bertito43
2 жыл бұрын
Haven’t looked back and also stated that kind of miss it. You sound like my ex
@carperdiem8754
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom, they are building mine right now!
@abbaby555
2 жыл бұрын
Great review, what an awesome little car
@pambritz3166
2 жыл бұрын
Love my 2023 Mini Cooper SE. Perfect for my lifestyle.
@zefram47
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 and have driven it 11k miles so far. It's the perfect city/commuter car for me, and likely many out there. But for me it's clearly a second car...just one that gets driven 90+% of the time and the ICE gets driven when more people, stuff, or long distance travel are needed. My commute is also 30 miles round trip.
@rsdwall466
2 жыл бұрын
That is perfect. For larger families of ones who do long road trips without many breaks, this set is perfect.
@jamesrobinson8211
2 жыл бұрын
I live in a gated 55 and older community in Florida. There are many residence with golf carts. They’re cute and probably lots of fun to drive.
@petegalindez9961
6 ай бұрын
Great review as always Tom…as for why your last 1/4 was the most efficient, it’s because you already expended 75% of your charge…so, you weren’t carrying around all that battery power! LOL….
@jonperkins8696
2 жыл бұрын
I wish the Renault Zoe was offered here in the States
@garyclark6747
2 жыл бұрын
In a world of EV’s that trend under EPA rating it’s a welcome and pleasant outcome for a nice little EV. Thanks Tom‼️
@e-care-books9867
2 ай бұрын
Thx, Tom
@Ben-gm9lo
Жыл бұрын
Lovely video, well presented, thanks. However, I know I am way behind the published date but wanted to comment in case it helps future videos. You missed the final step of the test. Having driven a precise mileage you didn't fill it back up to know EXACTLY how much electricity it used! Since when did we just trust manufacturers to tell us consumption? They really don't have a good track record at this! I really wanted to see how much charge it used for how much mileage. We get a Mini SE in a couple of months...
@jasonfudenberg8643
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2022 Mini Cooper SE too (and a Tesla Model X Plaid). The Mini is surprisingly fun to drive, but Mini really need to work on their throttle pedal mapping. It's not nearly as linear as the Tesla.
@lanceareadbhar
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know roughly how the combined EPA is calculated in terms of what percentage of highway driving being done vs what percentage of city driving being done?
@TheLegend-nx3mm
2 жыл бұрын
Hi , excellent video love the mini cooper. I have a question about evs in general! Maybe this question has already been answered? Here it is...why is there no alternator or more modern alternator self charging the battery? Am I missing something here ? After all we have them on petrol or diesel engine cars? Excellent video. Kind regards Danny uk 🇬🇧 ❤ 🇺🇸
@MasterChief37
Жыл бұрын
I bought one for my wife, she drives 30km per day, this will replace a 2013 Audi A1, which also only ever drove 30km per day. It's a second car, it will never do anything more than the 100km round trip to my wifes mothers house, we don't need an EV with 500 km plus range. For longer range driving we have a big diesel station wagon.
@cadriver2570
2 жыл бұрын
Surprising result. What did wind look like? Iirc the bjorn test got more range at 75 mph.
@EVAddicted
2 жыл бұрын
Why is so hard to find a lease on these? I was considering to replace my Bolt, but after all Mini SE offers pretty much less in every category.
@jonathangarmuth8975
2 жыл бұрын
I guarantee they make the measurement of the battery look like it's going down faster from 100-30 percent and then you get more mileage the last 30% to try help people not run out who like to cut it close.
@simplygregsterev
Жыл бұрын
No issues with the range on mine
@macmac1982
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds nice and all but a Mini Cooper S means drive hard, fast and enjoy. If you did that. What would your real mileage be?
@billshira7767
2 жыл бұрын
So if the speedo is off by 2 what do you think the Miles driven may be off by ? I have done this type of testing with all my cars, on new tires, after each tire change. But I'll bet after 35k miles the rotation per mile are higher and the mile per are off. Oh well. That's life. your videos on the carious EVSE brands are the best. I recommend you to all who pose the question about chargers. TY. Good Luck.
@timandnatd
2 жыл бұрын
*Bring up dealer markups on the price too.
@Chrisb8s
2 жыл бұрын
we need a second car to replace our volvo wagon that has been driven around 5,000 miles a year. i think that it will be enough range.. my worry is the residual value in the future.
@buzzofftoxicblog791
2 жыл бұрын
Great review but love our much better 2021 i3S 42kw range ok for us at 125 140 miles ruff our old first 2018 i3 33kw 110/20 miles range ruff thank you
@PapaDougsAdventures01
2 жыл бұрын
Cute car but the low range makes it a non-starter for me as does the leaf.
@jollygreen4662
2 жыл бұрын
If the have their biggest mini gutted out to convert into an EV I would go for it... for 150 miles
@papacos4745
2 жыл бұрын
I think if they had an option with no back seats and little bigger battery for more range that would suite some people needs for longer range mini. Some people never have people ride in back of there cars 95% of the time.
@linusa2996
2 жыл бұрын
Sandy Munro had one in their shop and when he saw what they did inside the engine compartment he's response was "what the f did they do??", "this is what happens when engineers think they are the smartest person in the room", as far as the range, his verdict was they used inefficient batteries that were too heavy and not enough energy density, he wants a different battery set to give the car double the range, (that's right double the range") and clean up and make the engine compartment more compact and easier to get at, inspect and repair.
@MrMarkOlson
2 жыл бұрын
Only as a second car, is this short range acceptable. The advantage of small battery is lower weight and lower cost. Could Mini make an auxiliary battery the owner would place in the rear for a long trip?
@jonperkins8696
2 жыл бұрын
I like the Mini....but the range is a bit short for my driving mode.....
@pradeepmagan6951
2 жыл бұрын
Needs a bigger battery, minimum is 200 miles
@firstnamesecondname5341
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shame MINI don’t offer a ‘suitcase’ style drop in battery pack 🔋 to extend the range on those journeys where it’s critical, a 5KW maybe two 5KW packs which can connect up through a socket in the boot…. 🤷🏻♂️ I hear plenty of owners who’s commute journeys and other demands are capable of being met within the 100 mile range…….. but… I’m like many others have a PHEV, a golf gte plug in and of the last 8,000 miles driven, 4,500 of them have been on electric only⚡️ , the main journey I make that’s outside PHEV⚡️range is a 115 mile round trip (57 miles one and 58 the return with no chance to recharge because of turn around time 😬) a plug in extender solution could well help cars like minis get close to the guaranteed 150 mile range which would cover all most all but the most extreme journeys people demand, certainly in 🇬🇧 where 12,000 per year is the high average driven per year
@youtubestats6458
2 жыл бұрын
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@bikebudha01
2 жыл бұрын
You are spending $40,000 for a car you can't take out of the city. This has to be a second car, and one only used for short trips around town. Even if you do just need a little run around town car, $40k is was too dam much. You can get a Nissan Micra for less than $10k. It's going to take a loooooong time to save $30k in gas to make up that price difference.
@linusa2996
2 жыл бұрын
BMW really needs to get its head out of its ass and stop selling compliance cars and sell actual ev cars.
@timandnatd
2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think all range tests should plan to die on the road and be towed.
@nickbourne3202
9 ай бұрын
The range is rubbish. Glad I'd never want an electric car ever....
@egidiomeola
2 жыл бұрын
The winter range will be awful
@rogermartinez78
2 жыл бұрын
Brother what is wrong with you, you running AC when it's 66 degrees, I have no need for AC at 66 degrees my friend.
@Displays.1234.
2 жыл бұрын
There is no excuse for the crap battery life....
@wzDH106
2 жыл бұрын
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@wzDH106
2 жыл бұрын
There's an 8 year, 100,000 mile battery warranty
@Displays.1234.
2 жыл бұрын
@@wzDH106 pointless when the range in crap.....
@wzDH106
2 жыл бұрын
@@Displays.1234. Oh, you're referring to the range, not battery life. It's good for most folks, we use it as the daily driver, and we don't live in the city. Nearest grocery store is almost 20 miles away, with other errands 35-45 miles away (70-90 miles round trip)
@cadriver2570
2 жыл бұрын
If you want more range get an appliance like a Leaf. This car is actually fun to drive.
@egidiomeola
2 жыл бұрын
The mini is not a practical vehicle
@egidiomeola
2 жыл бұрын
The range sucks on this car
@jonathangarmuth8975
2 жыл бұрын
It's meant for city driving not 70 mph. It's aerodynamics are not made for the highway like alot of the serious range ev brands. My guess is mini will not make a 200+ mile ev until the tech gets better in maybe 10 years
@tonyn3227
2 жыл бұрын
pathetic range , bmw should be ashamed of themselves, charging almost $40k. for this joke of milage. min range should be around 180 miles for this car. even the old technologuy back in 2008 the mini you drove could do 100 miles. same as this new one after 14 years . bmw hasn't advanced at all , for 14 years, annoying. very.
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