For that price tag ,this car is going to be garage queen for most of the rich buyers
@blitzy3244
Жыл бұрын
This ugly thing ain't no queen, it's a medieval peasant's wife.
@SIat
Жыл бұрын
Or for the snobby wannabe bmw “enthusiasts”
@daytonasayswhat9333
Жыл бұрын
Like all fancy cars. Someone has to buy them.
@carterg1847
Жыл бұрын
@@SIat what makes a person a real bmw enthusiast?
@SIat
Жыл бұрын
@@carterg1847 I’m not saying they’re a fake bmw enthusiast. I’m speaking more along the lines of the self righteous bmw people who think their cars are a special edition Ferrari when it’s nothing close to that
@brianlindeborg7192
Жыл бұрын
When thomas Said ”it’s drivnin’ time” i just fell to my knees and started sobbing, truly a national treasure level of video only fit for gods
@negativeindustrial
Жыл бұрын
Fell to your knees, did you?
@labibmanzar8559
Жыл бұрын
He also drove all over the place
@andrewduong2740
Жыл бұрын
I loved the part when he said
@willdill7253
Жыл бұрын
Truly one of the drives of all time
@Royal_dj_ent
Жыл бұрын
Wtf!! Calm down lmao it’s just a car
@yousefdeeb01
Жыл бұрын
I love how James is progressively becoming a better driver
@rayhan4502
Жыл бұрын
Is he bad at it?
@GameOver-nm2us
Жыл бұрын
@@rayhan4502 Huh?
@lvloneymaker24
Жыл бұрын
What makes you think he was ever a bad driver wtf?
@bokebryant3985
Жыл бұрын
@@lvloneymaker24 that doesnt mean he's bad. He can still be better, even Verstappen can have room to get better
@GameOver-nm2us
Жыл бұрын
@@lvloneymaker24 who said that
@alpha_btw7396
Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the color correction, and how true-to-life the colors are, big applause to the editors, cameramen, and of course James and Thomas (cuz without the cast, there is no show)
@acoga
Жыл бұрын
The production value of Throttle House videos is just insanely good. Congrats to the videographer & editor, you are total pros.
@ZachTurnsUp
Жыл бұрын
James’s drift at 5:42 oh my GOD. Love to see his progression on the track.
@scottiemcgee3838
Жыл бұрын
@RepentandbelieveinJesusChristshut up
@narennallapareddy2994
Жыл бұрын
"Is it stunning? I am stunned by it" that got me 😂
@mattkendrick9908
Жыл бұрын
I’ll have to pass on looks alone sadly.
@mikek545
Жыл бұрын
I’m stunned they haven’t fixed the weight and front end 😅
@DubC
2 ай бұрын
In person this looks mean as f**k.. I like it
@anonymouscommentator
Жыл бұрын
am I stupid or is the csl with 1.08.64 slower than the zr1 with 1.08.59? Because I think they mixed up the leaderboard at 14:37
@Christian.90
Жыл бұрын
I was about to comment this lol. It needs to be #5, below the Zr1.😬
@A--lex
Жыл бұрын
@@Christian.90 yeah they did 😂
@chicomaxima1
Жыл бұрын
The editor Screwed up
@jamesengelsman9369
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's our bad. None of us noticed in the final edit. All the times are correct though!
@LF-du4uc
Жыл бұрын
Carson…?
@derekm9155
Жыл бұрын
Many thanks, to the editor(s) for the Metric to Imperial conversions. Great job by the whole team. Very entertaining, informative, and all-around great video, as usual.
@markpemberton1949
Жыл бұрын
Your reviews are awesome guys! I love the fact you're Canadian and from Ontario too. Keep up the great job!
@ramseychong8787
Жыл бұрын
You know CSL is a serious deal because TH didn't even put a dramatic intro for this episode! 😷💪
@OldSkoolUncleChris
Жыл бұрын
Instead they snuck in the Harrison bit , like Casino Royale and the bathroom gunbarrel.
@aerienix
Жыл бұрын
They normally don’t with the track series.
@AhsanU
Жыл бұрын
This review nails most people’s thoughts - the M4 CSL is just not special enough. Limited in production numbers doesn’t make it more special, it just makes it rarer and appeals to the people that look at cars as investments. It’s like playing Pokémon red/blue and finding a wild Porygon - rare, but no one wants one to fight with. My money easily goes to a used R8, or saving a bit more for a new winged 992 GT3 which is what I’ve opted for as a G80 M3 owner. Amazing video as usual!
@dustyice3110
Жыл бұрын
Problem is actually buying a 992 gt3 or a gt4 rs ... you wont find one for less than $250k on the used market. This kinda feels like the m4 gts and that car still only sells for around MSRP.
@bernhard.k
Жыл бұрын
R8 is no good car.
@Mis73rRand0m
Жыл бұрын
Funny I just made a pokemon-related comment regarding their intro. James needs a Weezing.
@jessicalacasse6205
Жыл бұрын
im sure you get the old vs new the v10 vs the 6 and not much difference... you should nt pay more to get a compromise ...
@ourfutureisdark
Жыл бұрын
I agree to an extent. You have to think about who its marketed for the M4 GTS was did do well because it honestly wasn't that far from an M4C all they did was give it a wing and added distilled water to pump the power which a simple flash would do to a normal M4C. M4 CSL however has a weight advantage and its for the track. Lastly how many people even track their track cars? Not many so just like you said the people who buy this will probably buy em and store em.
@leolopez626
Жыл бұрын
Those CSL taillights and hood are going to be very desirable to G82 M4 owners
@revlucm7301
Жыл бұрын
Was just wondering if i can get hold of a set…bet they are silly money
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
There are G82 M4 owners?
@leolopez626
Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma surprisingly yes there’s a couple out there I’d personally go with a G80 M3 🤷🏽♂️😂
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@leolopez626 I live in Germany and since the new M3/M4 came out I've seen like a handful of them, definitely less than 6 overall.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@leolopez626 The G80 is definitely the lesser evil though, the rear is rather nice, but that front... I guess you could cover it in tape to hide it
@warmachine_1396
Жыл бұрын
2008 BMW 335i. N54 engine. Total investment including purchase and mods 22k USD. O-60 all day in 4 seconds. Best time 3.425 seconds. Beat that performance for the money. M sport suspension also. Handles so well.
@hondacar
Жыл бұрын
In Australia, the price is said to be $303,900 AUD. That equates to approx. $193,000 USD.(before on the road costs).
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
Жыл бұрын
This channel had to grow on me. I've been so biased towards the old Top Gear that it's hard to accept new personalities but these guys won me over. Subbed
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Me too man. Me too grew up on Throttle House.
@sddyck
Жыл бұрын
Same. 100%
@baljeet650
Жыл бұрын
Ur flexing that ur not v smart
@OldSkoolUncleChris
Жыл бұрын
yeah imagine them in the future all potbellied and with sandpaper skin like C H & M lol.
@karmadel786
Жыл бұрын
Either you like cars or you don't
@xkisslayax
Жыл бұрын
At $140k I would say there’s alternatives that look far better. This is touching super car territory for what’s essentially a souped up sedan.
@robe4314
Жыл бұрын
Unless you just want a sedan this is in C8 Z06 territory. That price is bonkers.
@Christian.90
Жыл бұрын
I would honestly take a Gt500 carbon fiber track pack over this and save money.🤷🏻♂️
@nappy5853
Жыл бұрын
well its reasonably priced , its a little less expensive than a amg gtr and a little slower, and its even less expemnsive than 911 gt3 and a little more slower, but obviously if price is the only thing u look at than u can buy the cheap alternatives like z06 which is ;likely faster than all of these but manufactured at a lesser quality
@cwx8
Жыл бұрын
For that money I want it to look like 140k not some kind of Korean import with aftermarket exterior mods.
@cooperjackson5840
Жыл бұрын
Down payment on a house lol
@MrSandChess
Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a new Throttle House video in the morning
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Yep. And also a TH video in late night.
@Fasteddiebreakshearts
Жыл бұрын
Facts 💯
@calebbodill6094
Жыл бұрын
I would definitely go for the m5 cs over this cause the m5 cs isn’t that much slower around a track but is so much more practical and would be a better car for me cause i would want to daily drive it. The m5 cs also looks a lot better.
@ilon7799
Жыл бұрын
You know, if you want practicality, it’s BMW M5/M5 Competition. Much better car overall for less money. And much more comfort.
@matejdo
10 ай бұрын
I believe there is a huge issue with that V8 engine, obviously there are no official reports, so I may be wrong. But I have heard about multiple S63 engine failure. I did not buy M5C simply of the S63, even though the performance must be amazing the fear of the engine dying on me is too much for me :D
@gustavopolanco6925
Жыл бұрын
M5 CS only TWO second slower with 4 doors full weight and rear seats. Now thats impressive.
@vivianjohnvincent4458
Жыл бұрын
I just love the stuff you guys do, keep up the good work! Btw that color looks so sick.
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
The color looked too bold in fact.
@EvoraGT430
Жыл бұрын
It's undercoat.
@FirestormX9
Жыл бұрын
The speed gauge animation after the intro's sealed it for me.
@gurupitka7705
Жыл бұрын
Those clips aren’t him driving😂
@FirestormX9
Жыл бұрын
@@gurupitka7705 yeah and this comment of yours isn't a human typing, its a dog
@IAM-re3xm
Жыл бұрын
Was watching this thing do 1/4 miles and its acceleration throughout is insane.
@officialhcdesign
Жыл бұрын
Kudos to BMW for still making cars like the M4 CSL
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Z4 GT3 and R8 LMS GT3: R WE A JOKE FOR YOU?
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 11 year old cars
@netweed09
Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 *Yes.*
@mikek545
Жыл бұрын
Still making ugly grills
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
@@mikek545 grill is beautiful
@zacharymakos
Жыл бұрын
This is the best car channel on KZitem. The cinematography, the way they capture the emotion of a car, beyond grateful I get to watch these videos for free.
@soapoperaslushy2853
Жыл бұрын
The camera crew and editors really like to shine 3:36 I just love this moment
@Kalepsis
Жыл бұрын
I really, really want to see how the new C8 Z06 compares in terms of lap time. Can't wait for that episode.
@GrimReaper1675
Жыл бұрын
Lmao the C8 Z06 is lower to the ground than the M4 CSL, lighter, better aero, also C8 looks a million times better than a big 3700 pound car. Thats why Thatdudeinblue said he will NEVER compare a Corvette to a Mustang. Not even the same weight class. A M4 has no business trying to compete on a track with cars that weigh less than 3500lbs. I imagine a C6 Z06 with todays modern tires will corner better than a new M4😂
@95shagginwagon67
Жыл бұрын
@@GrimReaper1675 as an owner of a C6 Z06 with PS4 S tires on it, you might be right. What I can say is the C6 z06 is VERRRRRY twitchy when getting aggressive through corners with t/c and s/c off. Even with the modern tires, it almost needs to break traction to feel safe. It might corner as well, but I’m sure the M4 is more confidence inspiring.
@tyler9703
Жыл бұрын
@@GrimReaper1675 Lol I get what youre saying, but the new Z06 ALSO weighs 3700 LBS. So not any lighter than the M4.
@karlmalone11
Жыл бұрын
@@GrimReaper1675 new z06 weighs about the same as this car. The lightest spec that Caranddriver tested of new z06 weighed 3666 pounds, about the same as this car.
@hwyfools
Жыл бұрын
C8Z will walk the CSL on a track. 345s on the back of that Z.
@jacksonallen97
Жыл бұрын
Wait, it should be slower than the Corvette ZR1 at a 1:08.59 right? Leaderboard shows it faster than that
@ThrottleHouse
Жыл бұрын
Yep we got it backwards nice catch!
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrottleHouse hi throttle House. Please review Setsuna Yuki's Audi R18 TDI (Audi Team Joest) 2011 next! Please? From Purwanti Allan.
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrottleHouse the diehard lovelive fan.
@MatthewGaither
Жыл бұрын
The performance is definitely there on this one and that's probably the best I have ever heard the modern turbocharged BMW inline 6 sound from the factory. I wish my M340i sounded as good. Too bad about that price tag though!
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
The M4 CSL for me it maybe cool but still pales in comparison to Corvette C7 Stingray.
@smar1208
Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 is that why its better in every measure (other than maybe looks)?
@Youcallthesebagels_
Жыл бұрын
@@smar1208 a corvette would destroy this on a real track that’s over 2 miles long. This track is too small for the viper and corvette
@dempseydulaney1
Жыл бұрын
get an MPPSK kit, intake, and downpipe. The B58 sounds better than the S58 because the S58 has two turbos instead of just one like the B58.
@MegaFregel
Жыл бұрын
@@dempseydulaney1 or the f82 with MPE or and M4 GTS (which essentially has an MPE) probably beats the CSL by miles due to modern regulations.
@rodmunch69
Жыл бұрын
I've owned three BMW 4-series, so far, and there's no way I'd pay almost $150k for another one. For that money I'd buy a new Corvette AND a Cybertruck - that covers utility, style and performance. Nothing against people who are willing to pay this, but man, again, I've owned three 4-series, and the entire lure of them was that you got an awesome looking and performing car for like $10k more than a Mustang GT or a Camaro SS. When you're talking like $80-90k more, that's pretty insane. But hey, it's not my money, so spend it however you want, I'll still love seeing these on the road.
@sparkyboots
Жыл бұрын
Awesome as usual guys. Would love to see all the cars you review do launches from a dig! An outside perspective. Keep up the good work!
@GemmyDonCars
Жыл бұрын
That slide at 5:40 was amazing!
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
He nailed it.
@timmietz
Жыл бұрын
Best review of this model! Thanks you gents! I bought the CSL as well as the M5CS. Epic cars!
@shivvashishthabhargava4600
Жыл бұрын
Congrats brother!
@timmietz
Жыл бұрын
@@shivvashishthabhargava4600 thank you! I am very blessed indeed.
@ertugrulbae46
Жыл бұрын
Dayum. You smashed it. Securing one of them is tough enough.
@truthsetsyoufree77
Жыл бұрын
Congrats man!
@paulhelden
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always!! This new M3/M4 will never grown on me...I still believe that the E92 and E30 are the ones to love
@JimHinCO
6 ай бұрын
It was cool seeing you laugh w/joy as you went around the track. Great stuff!
@paulitik7
Жыл бұрын
I actually love the looks of the M4. It’s the only one I like the kidney grill on. The 2017-22 M2 is my fave modern BMW though.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
The awful exterior and overall lack of "specialness" really puzzle me. I can't see anyone preferring this over a 911 Carrera S let alone C8 Z06. A Mustang Mach 1 also is not only visually more appealing and a great track tool as well, it also has the beautiful V8 noise to accompany the drive. Did I mention that the 718 GT4 resides in that price range too? A track focused, mid engine, naturally aspirated Porsche????
@nappy5853
Жыл бұрын
well its faster than a carrera s , and a mach 1 or gt500 around the ring, and i dont think anyone looking for a european sportscar would would ever consider z06 even though its pretty good.The gt4rs is best value for money , its faster than alot of more expensive cars but then again comparing cars based on their prices is stupid
@andrewb325
Жыл бұрын
I can’t either. I felt the same way about the M4 GTS and that looked a lot better than this. Looking at this car actually makes me nauseous.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@andrewb325 The M4 GTS was peak M4 in every way. Looks, Performance and handling. Sadly it wasn't necessarily the best road car xD
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@nappy5853 And? It's faster than these cars driven by a professional driver. Most people that buy such cars are far away from being professional drivers. The Carrera S is much more prestigious, people will ask what you drive and when you say a 911 they're like "Oh, very nice car. How much did it cost? 120K? Decent price". When you tell them you bought this they'll say "A BMW? For 140K? Is it the M8? No? M4? For that money!? At least it has to look goo...oh my God..." The Mach 1 is much more special, especially here in Europe. It looks gorgeous, has the nice V8 and handles like you wouldn't expect. The 718 GT4 openly competes with the M4 CS as a track car of similar price range of a german manufacturer. So it absolutely makes sense to compare them. And in that comparison the brand new M4 CS can't compete with the GT4 RS which is a bit older too. As for the Z06, people will look at the Corvette being much more desirable than any BMW, especially here in Europe where Corvettes are legendary and rare cars anyway. Not to mention with such an engine
@nappy5853
Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma the performance of a car is very important when u r buying a performance car , more so than what it looks like or what other people think about it. i do not consider people who buy cars for social status or as investments as enthusiasts not to gatekeep but i think you are misunderstanding the reason why enthusiasts by sports car. You are coming off a bit ill informed on this subject and a little bit delusional .Frankly you dont know what you are talking about
@adamscottv
Жыл бұрын
Except you can't possibly get one for $140k. There was one on the floor when I picked up my 340 this past weekend, and they wanted $50k over list. The sales guys were laughing about people calling and offering $20-25k over list.
@TheElectricGhost
Жыл бұрын
Tbf, they're Canadian so they get everything for MSRP
@helmetculture
Жыл бұрын
Those same sales guys the one crying the blue when they can't make ends meet too
@adamscottv
Жыл бұрын
@@helmetculture Any of them would be happy to make the deal but the boss set the price...
@julianagollari4851
Жыл бұрын
I was just offered one locally for $5k over which I didn’t take. The value will drop just like the GTS did when used.
@hirostvjapan
Жыл бұрын
My favorite car I had is still e46 M3 CSL. That sound air going in was really special for CSL. Wish I can get this also.
@brendanngin9939
Жыл бұрын
How’d you get a e46 m3 csl ?
@reigelnieva6480
Жыл бұрын
i’m new to your channel and i really gotta say THANK YOU SO MUCH for making great content. Ever since the OG top gear UK ended, and now that grand tour only does specials, this channel has been filling that void that TG left, that the current Top Gear US and UK just can’t really fill. you guys are awesome!! keep it up!
@mrflippant
Жыл бұрын
Make sure to check out Jason Cammisa over on Hagerty - he's like an American version of Clarkson.
@seraphimvalkyrin4543
Жыл бұрын
As a Viper fan it makes me sad that you forgot about it as the only other 1:07 car.
@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Жыл бұрын
What is a Viper?
@ZackNakazora1
Жыл бұрын
@@xxxxxxxxxxxx_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx an animal that eats corvettes and mustangs
@guillaumeloriault4074
Жыл бұрын
@@ZackNakazora1 Or something that usually ends up in a ditch or a guardrail 😂. Jk love them too specially ACR.
@jac540
Жыл бұрын
That's seriously impressive, considering the Viper has been discontinued since 2017.
@davsquaredo79
Жыл бұрын
As a mustang owner, Vipers are some of the sexiest cars out there
@voidlaser02
Жыл бұрын
Seeing this car it kinda reminds me off the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTAm version. Would be amazing to see a drag race with both cars and see how well they stack up to each other on a track test
@vincefava7929
Жыл бұрын
Thinking the same thing! The ALFA is way way way nicer looking too.
@ScullyD-ee9jk
Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly the car it should be compared to. Throw the Jaguar Project 8, even the CLK63 AMG Black Series into it. And leave price out of it. Its just a specific type of car.
@vincefava7929
Жыл бұрын
@@ScullyD-ee9jk agreed. These cars are not just about how fast you can go (and they are fast), but how they make you feel. Why else would one buy a super expensive sports saloon? It's the city / daily driving, NOT the track.
@fifteen8850
Жыл бұрын
@@vincefava7929 and way more expensive lol
@christohees9150
8 ай бұрын
Car wow 😉
@noobasdfjkl
Жыл бұрын
“Brake bias set frontward” That’s what happens when you fit a car with 6 piston fronts and single piston rears lol
@seshadkirtanshanker6467
Жыл бұрын
I have to say that the front looks better with the sportier appearance. It just looks more apropriate on the car this way. This is definitely my favourite of the M3/M4 family.
@-Eternal-Damnation-
9 ай бұрын
Yeah it actually looks really good now. Its very different, but good in its own way.
@jamescorderjr1274
Жыл бұрын
I LOL'd at the price. Not only is that insane but every other car you listed is not only extremely competent but also better looking and sounds much, MUCH better. But hey at least those seats don't look like they have a hearing feature you need a subscription to use on top of the $170K
@shivvashishthabhargava4600
Жыл бұрын
Nothing like the M4! The M4CSL and M5CS are pure savagery!
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
M1 Procar and Z4 GT3 2011: ARE WE A JOKE FOR YOU?!
@irinapetrovich7057
Жыл бұрын
The M4 has become a joke. No wonder I don't see any new ones here while everyone and their mother buys C63s
@blazesmooth5573
Жыл бұрын
@@irinapetrovich7057 no one's mom is buying a c63s, you probably are mistaken with c300s. M340i has have insane sales
@cybercityoedo808
Жыл бұрын
I want them both... one day.
@jaimeb3587
Жыл бұрын
You meant, nothing like the ugly front grill of the M4, right? Lol! That sedan is fat, ugly, and overpriced!
@madmike3881
Жыл бұрын
Man i love throttle house, i love BMW and the two of them together is just magic ✨️
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Me too love TH the same way i love LoveLive and Top Gear.
@bobwilliams1177
Жыл бұрын
Well this extended my normal morning work bathroom break by about fifteen minutes.
@jovani6044
Жыл бұрын
I still can't get over how the front grill looks but the rest of the car looks good
@samuelhoward8504
Жыл бұрын
Just noticing how the wheel is doing the jitterbug… just reminder for everyone that smooth is fast
@jesusgutierrez1446
Жыл бұрын
“It’s sooooo stiff!- and I don’t mean the suspension” 😮……”I mean the chassis” 😅 lol
@adamwright9741
Жыл бұрын
When you said the M5, I would always probably go for a 5 series lower power trim than you would. But man I've been in love with the 5 series for decades.. Good call!
@mesprojects674
Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see an ancestor, like a modded 2008 M5 or 535, against this.
@ProjectAjax
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always gentleman. can't wait to see ZO6 on track!!! is that happening soon?
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Maybe January 2023.
@thirdgearpull
Жыл бұрын
one of the best car review content on youtube hands down.... appreciate you guys
@deucedaprodeuca
Жыл бұрын
I have always absolutely loved the beaver grille.
@davidpegler6774
Жыл бұрын
Honestly one of your best reviews and that's saying a lot.
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
The BMW M4 CSL is a car to buy and no more shortlist.
@atlegangletsoge6165
Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to Point out that the M4 csl should be on the number 5 spot as the ZR1 time is faster. And I was also expecting a surprise race between the csl vs the Alfa GTAm also on the track.❤😪
@marshall.white.300
Жыл бұрын
This
@jamescox1806
Жыл бұрын
Thomas: is this car stunning? James replies: I'm stunned by it"! Best line in the whole video! 🤣😂😅🤣
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Even Karin Asaka also said "I am stunned by it".
@jamescox1806
Жыл бұрын
@@purwantiallan5089 😆
@number1Schumacherfan
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think people are appreciating that lap time. This is a front engined, RWD car that is quite heavy despite the weight savings. It is keeping up with and beating some insane sports cars that are built as sports cars from the ground up… to be so close to a race car like the GT3 is absolutely incredible.
@ryanjonathanmartin3933
Жыл бұрын
"No, no, heavy bad! All heavy cars bad! You are a BMW corporate shill!" Sarcasm obviously
@christohees9150
8 ай бұрын
@ryanjonathanmartin3933 😂😂😂 that m4csl is very impressive and it can go faster
@primepremium5504
Жыл бұрын
This is the consolation prize for wealthy people who don't have a relationship with Porsche.
@_NoynuR
Жыл бұрын
I have Black CSL on order and am Still waiting for mine to be built. I already have a 22 M3 Comp X drive so i can live with that on the daily. The CSL will be for Cota, Live 10 mins away from it. I agree though the price is hard to swallow especially when like you said in the review that you don't get a Cage. I'm still excited to drive it when it comes in though regardless!
@_symmetry_
Жыл бұрын
James, I absolutely have to say this, you're getting absolutely amazing at drifting around corners!!! Thomas, I absolutely have to say this, you have my highest respect for always being so passionate AND remaining impartial. This car must have been eyes watering for someone who truly loves BMW: the M4 CSL seems to be exactly what a real M car should be, today.
@maximborodyuk3773
Жыл бұрын
Ugly, slow, overpriced, soulless?
@joshuabergeman354
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that thinks the M4 looks incredible?
@donjohn2239
5 ай бұрын
Yes. You are a wierdo
@rahuljayachandran4128
Жыл бұрын
I would love for you guys to do a video on the cars that you own and have owned. Love your content- Keep them coming.
@purwantiallan5089
Жыл бұрын
Hope those are never gonna end.
@jeremypayeur5985
Жыл бұрын
They actually did one during covid!
@rahuljayachandran4128
Жыл бұрын
@@jeremypayeur5985 okay i didnt know that- thanks for letting me know..
@Thisath100
Жыл бұрын
It's on Extra Throttle House if you haven't found it yet :)
@rahuljayachandran4128
Жыл бұрын
@@Thisath100 okay thanks for the heads-up 😃.
@J.Cameron.Stuart.Adams.
Жыл бұрын
Are we not going to talk about the fact the side profile looks more like a 2011 Accord Coupe than the precision tuned German masterpiece she is. I do appreciate the boys hitting on some of its cheap aspects and lackluster comforts given the shocking sticker. All of her flaws aside I love her front and rear fascias. Stunning... Use these fascias designs forms across the fleet.
@Volvo8Fifty4Life
Жыл бұрын
I’m amazed at how good the e46 M3 csl still looks when compared to this new one. The new design doesn’t hold a candle.
@fastm3980
Жыл бұрын
This m4 is ugly.
@cedricl.marquard6273
Жыл бұрын
Honestly love this new design
@fastm3980
Жыл бұрын
@@cedricl.marquard6273 To each their own 🤣. But if you had these two side by side with the M4 drivetrain,HP, torque etc.etc. Everyone would be choosing E46.
@Tobi-ln9xr
Жыл бұрын
Idk what you mean. The M4 csl is one of the most beautiful cars on the streets.
@austinmiller4017
Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! You should do a review on the gt500 with a track pack so we can see how quick it is compared to the other cars you have done lap times on!
@bolt5564
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised for the price they didn't add carbon fiber Wheels.
@sapperjackson7132
Жыл бұрын
Best Car reviewers on KZitem, and it’s not even close. Love you guys!
@gravityhammer25
Жыл бұрын
"I've been looking forward to this." - Count Dooku
@tyjohnsrud
Жыл бұрын
Great edit! Gear question: What mount, camera and lens are used @24:00? The way the lights shifts across the front of the car is beautiful.
@wearethetraffic
Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the M3 version, just a better looking car overall... It's all in the rear quarters for me, the M4 is a BBL where the M3 just got it from her mama. IYKYK
@sonnyzhao2309
Жыл бұрын
Ummm James, why is 1:08.64 faster than 1:08.59? Anyway, love your good works
@ramennoodlz
Жыл бұрын
1:08.64 has a better personality
@ThrottleHouse
Жыл бұрын
The corvette is faster. We mixed up the leader board. Sawryyy.
@sonnyzhao2309
Жыл бұрын
@@ThrottleHouse You guys have my unconditional love.
@sonnyzhao2309
Жыл бұрын
@@ramennoodlz what about 1:08.69
@ToneNYC718
Жыл бұрын
“OMG it’s sooooo stiff…and I don’t mean the suspension…” Yes Thomas. It is so stiff after watching this review.
@duomaxwell5807
Жыл бұрын
James said most POWERFUL M car...M8 comp has entered the chat..😂🤣😂🤣
@odiseven
Жыл бұрын
Wow... I can't believe that the front end of this car still has not grown on me. I think I'll never get used to it.
@Games4Days912
Жыл бұрын
The prices of cars is getting out of ✋️
@yoshlinmartin5620
Жыл бұрын
How about a comparison between the m4 csl and the m5 cs?
@prod._zUKu
Жыл бұрын
Oooooooooo
@yoshlinmartin5620
Жыл бұрын
@Ruthlessgod1 free fire name no I get you. Because yeah M5CS is AMAZING, but 99% of people won't even be able to reach the limits of it. So the M550i and M2CS are great choices. And the M4CSL looks way worse than the other 2😂
@johnthe_gamer
Жыл бұрын
When Thomas and James were talking after the laps the car very much reminded me of the Mustang Mach 1
@leobats14
5 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this review a few times now. You guys are the best reviewers. Luv from the UK (London)
@allensaunders449
Жыл бұрын
I would take the new C8Z06 over this car if I had a choice
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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Жыл бұрын
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@bhvrdr
Жыл бұрын
So I could spend 140 grand to get a 3650lb pig that has a stripped interior and carbon fiber seats that have little to no padding in order to go slower than a $65,000 C8 Corvette that has heated and cooled seats and a 14 speaker thousand watt surround system while somehow still being lighter than the CSL.
@scuffediceposeidon9178
2 ай бұрын
The problem I see here with this csl brand is the same what amg did with the black series brand, bmw and Mercedes try so hard to cope with Porsche and overdo it somehow. Any gt 3rs might be the better racetrack choice than this M4 csl and gt r black series
@reedsy1960
Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant review. Lerv your work Boyz. 2 Thumbs up
@bicboi1930
Жыл бұрын
A broken window AC unit sounds about the same
@Miata822
Жыл бұрын
I am thrilled to see you two back out on your home track. We need more lap times. We especially need some times for a Lucid, any Lucid. People rave about the handling (and I love how mine handles on twisty mountain roads) but reviews don't count w/o lap times. Hopefully a Sapphire will come and find you. I'll put in a word, for whatever that's worth. Not the ideal car for a short flat track, but let the chips fall where they may. I will never own a BMW with that garish nose. Frankly, I find it insulting that this porcine snout is what they picture when they think of their customers. It's shocking, even more shocking than Thomas mistakenly choosing a Z06 and M5 over a GT4RS. Shocking.
@DailyDriver.
Жыл бұрын
I would quickly take that $140,000 and buy a individual spec BrG on Cognac f90 LCi and be way happier not having to look at that front end
@ApothecaryTerry
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, if you're inside the M4 then you also don't have to look at the front end 😄 For that money, I'd buy a specced up Panamera to go alongside my 981CS! If we're talking fun cars only though...well, I'd have a Pug 306 GTi-6, an Elise S1, a 981CS and an ND MX-5. Converting from UK prices into USD, that's about $100k, so let's chuck a Mustang (GT, manual) in there as well. At least 2 of those (306 and Elise) can out-fun any M4 by themselves so I'll take the 5 car garage all day...if I had a 5 car garage, or $140k, which I don't. Honestly not sure I'd swap the 981CS by itself for a CSL either though, unless I could sell the CSL, buy the 981 back and keep the change 😁
@cavaseno
Жыл бұрын
Now waiting on the M4 CSL vs Cayman GT4 comparison
@enigmatwist6548
Жыл бұрын
Cayman will muller it but CSL has its own distinct appeal and to mind is a bit more special.
@cavaseno
Жыл бұрын
@@enigmatwist6548 personally i would get a base 911 and save the money. I can’t see myself spending $140k on a juiced m4. That’s for people with Fu*k you money.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@enigmatwist6548 "a bit more special" More special than a mid engine, naturally aspirated, 6-Cylinder boxer Porsche? Not to mention the GT4 RS also exists, which is an icon in the making
@ApothecaryTerry
Жыл бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmma CSL is certainly much rarer than a GT4 so it's more special in the sense that if those 2 cars turn up together at any event, the CSL will be the one getting all the attention. If the event is in the car park of a race track, that's about as close as most CSLs will ever get to one of those too! There have also been quite a lot of Porsches that fit your description - I drive a mid-engined, naturally aspirated 6-cylinder boxer Porsche too. I regularly park my 981CS next to a 718 GT4 at the local supermarket and honestly they get about the same amount of attention. The GT4 gets more from people like me who know it's worth double mine, but to most people it just looks like a Cayman with a wing. I'd buy a GT4 over a CSL every day of the week though- and for the price people are selling the CSL, you could almost literally do exactly that 😂
@DefinitelyNotEmma
Жыл бұрын
@@ApothecaryTerry Your second point contradicts your first point. The CSL wouldn't get any attention anywhere except the most hardcore car communities because it's just a 4 Series with stickers to most people. While the 718 GT4 has side vents, a wing, a Porsche badge and a front air outlet. People would ask if that's a 911 or GT3, because for whatever reason people think GT3 is a model and that Porsche only makes the 911 and Cayenne lol.
@barkbros123
Жыл бұрын
It must be good , it has you guys giggling like kids 💪
@SteveWeltman
Жыл бұрын
Great review! Fun watching you slide a car around and talk about the non-adjustable race buckets. Cool car but for the money it's neither an amazing track car (compared to others in its price range) nor an amazing road car but it is quite rare. IMHO I'd rather focus my cash on a 'pedestrian' M4 C if I needed to stay in BMW or go to a Porsche GT4RS or even a used GT3RS (more money).
@Cruxair
Жыл бұрын
I didnt like the looks as well but it grew on me
@ChrisLeiter
Жыл бұрын
The CSL is SOOOOOO much better looking too. That front end is growing on me, but then I saw this and (aside from the 'meh' trim coloring), this is so much better.
@joel89039
Жыл бұрын
I agree that this car looks stunning. That shot at 23:18 makes it look amazing. I wasn't a fan of the new grills but they are growing on me and I think the newer designs are growing into the bigger grill
@bub1x
Жыл бұрын
nah but fr the front end has grown so much on me, I literally cannot look at older m3/m4 models anymore, g82 is the only way to go for me. this car was literally made to be wrapped matte black, especially with the yellow headlights on the CSL
@MultiRastaman3
Жыл бұрын
Idc what anyone says about the front end. I think it’s badass and weird and I love it.
@cody3335
Жыл бұрын
It looks like a pig nose lol
@coldfraps
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video yet again, guys! I was wondering why you haven't done a McLaren yet? I'd love to see your take on one of those!
@shoestringfarm
Жыл бұрын
More stats please, like 0-62 mph, top speed and maybe standing quarter? However, very entertaining and relatable. Thanks guys, shweet.
@stacylaura4088
Жыл бұрын
I really want to see the M5 CS vs Lamborghini huracan evo spyder the AWD version. The reason I think the spyder would be a more fair race is because it's a little heavier than the evo coupe version and it's a little closer in weight to the M5 CS, but still lighter 😂 Please guys make it happen it's gonna be perfect because they are very close in hp as well. 640 EVO vs 635 CS 👍
@rodgazinya
Жыл бұрын
They recently tested it on the dyno and it made 569whp too.
@timmietz
Жыл бұрын
Real world price Comparison (US pricing) all with ceramic brakes and REAL market pricing: M4 CSL: $180k GT4RS: $290K R8 RWD: $220K Z06: $225k The only cars that truly are cheaper: ZL1 and the GT500.
@nappy5853
Жыл бұрын
exactly what ive been saying if you look at its performance and compare to other cares around same price it is reasonably priced , price is a primitive way to compare cars but because people are throwing empty complaints i had to do some research
@papa_pt
Жыл бұрын
your Z06 is way off. +$100k is what the highly publicized dealers who got publicly shamed by Chevy added, most people are reporting more like $30k market adjustment if not MSRP (which is $106k)
@timmietz
Жыл бұрын
@@papa_pt first of all, that’s way too early to tell as to what the real market adjustment is going to be. Let’s have this conversation around March or April of next year when more of these cars actually going to start coming in. I do believe that my estimate for, these cars, fully loaded, like mine, which is configured at $167,000 USD, it’s going to be right where I put it. I am willing to wait for my car until 2024, and, therefore, I believe that I’m going to be sticker or really close to it but, I do not anticipate for the market to be any less than $50-60k over sticker when they do become available in about 3 to 4 months.
@Vashed555
Жыл бұрын
A 2003 M3 CSL was £60k new. In 2022 US dollars, that’s $160k. Fair price.
@ryankassel5691
Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Props to the whole team
@PrajwalSBhat
Жыл бұрын
bmw suck with that grill bru
@stevem2323
Жыл бұрын
Not this one.
@UchihaM23
Жыл бұрын
No they didn't it is amazing
@madkabal
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, its ugly.
@jimb12312
Жыл бұрын
That's actually what it's for. Turbo sucking massive volumes of air into the engine and for cooling.
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