The fact Rocky puts cushcore from the factory really says something about them as a company. Most companies would save on the cost and weight, but they went for the best build.
@C-D-a-w-g
Жыл бұрын
Xc cushcore tho.. ain't doing much.
@toddd.9791
Жыл бұрын
The Raceface cranks are definitely the achilles heel of this bike. The ride 4 in one of the higher positions helps but I've never had so many pedal strikes on a bike before. I immediately put 165mm Atlas cranks on it and actually am in the process of drilling and cutting some 175mm Atlas cranks down to 155mm. The RF Cinch interface with the Dyname clutch makes it impossible to use another brand of cranks. Still an amazing bike though!
@drc2088
Жыл бұрын
I own a 22 RM Instinct and have zero issues with the torque sensor. Simply take your foot off the gas while stopped, or drop your seat and rest your feet on the ground. I did have issues with the motor cutting out on rides and now make a point of doing a torque sensor calibration before each ride, which takes all of 45 seconds, and haven't had any issues since. The one negative I have is the low bottom bracket, which seems to be the norm on a lot of bikes. I have the same complaint with my Santa Cruz, as well as my old Intense. PS bike manufacturers, not everyone rides smooth flow trails. To compensate, I increased the fork's air shaft from 150mm from 160mm and use the highest ride height position, which raises the bike, yet keeps a slack head angle. That was a huge inexpensive mod. I also keep sag on the minimum side, which also helps. At some point I might go with shorter cranks as well, but that takes $$. The motor is a beast on steep climbs, but for me, ludicrous has too much power in highly technical rocky terrain, so typically use 45% or 70%. It does come in handy on fire roads or if riding to a trail.
@themtbproject1422
Жыл бұрын
I have the exact same bike and I love everything about it.
@peterthomson6161
Жыл бұрын
A work around with the torque sensor issue is to position the crank arm at the 6 o'clock position so you are not pushing the crank when resting.
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
That does work, but it's not ideal to have to do so!
@TamMal1
Жыл бұрын
Purchased the same bike about a month ago in medium size with 165 cranks. Installed the MX link to turn it into a mullet. If you have the skills and ride with proper form this bike will climb just about anything. Feels like a moto trials bike. Awesome all rounder trail bike as well. Love your reviews!!!
@snigs5T5
Жыл бұрын
Try going Ludicrous and shifting up a few gears. Lug it like a moto and it will crush.
@Zetler
Жыл бұрын
Lol the camera panned over a broken bike with missing derailur, broken spokes, and missing chain during Robert’s geometry summary. 🤣
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Robert had a run in with a stick on the Rocky, and the stick won. Very broken derailleur, 3 snapped spokes and a punctured rim strip left the bike feeling a little sorry for itself.
@RationalHuman-1
Жыл бұрын
I have a ‘22 model. The Dyname’ 4.0 motor is a monster! I climb uphill at speed! Also agree 160mm cranks would be great. Superb bike! I have NEVER had a torque sensor issue, but I don’t sit there with my leg weight on the pedal, because I know the bike has a torque sensor.
@WorstDriver1393
Жыл бұрын
Your review is on point. I have a 2022 A50 that I put in a very rough 1250 km in half a season. It takes everything you throw at it like a champ. I'm starting my second season on it and I must say what a bike. The Dyname motor is something else, you'll be flying by the other ebikes with their puny 85 nm of torque ;)
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
Do you have anyone thats using the Bosch CX-Race motor to compare with the Dyname by any chance?
@mechpade
Жыл бұрын
The RM motor likes you to crank it. You’ll be surprised by how much it can give back. RM wins on techy, punchy climbs just because of torque @ high cadence. Anything less than North Shore gnar, Bosch-CXR wins
@DooDicky
Жыл бұрын
@@mechpadeso you recommend Dyname 4.0 Mountain Bike Drive | 250w Nominal Power | 700w Peak Power | 108Nm | Over bosch g4 cx?
@mechpade
Жыл бұрын
@@DooDicky I think this is a bad time to buy an e-bike just because next season is coming. If you really want one today, Bosch has better reliability and support (most Canadian bosch bikes are either Trek or Cannondale). Find one with good discount (20%++ off). I will not recommend an RM unless you tried it on trails
@DooDicky
Жыл бұрын
@@mechpade there is a discount on Cube bikes and they have Bosch G4
@RobStriegel
6 ай бұрын
I was anti E bike. my main squeeze is an Ibis Ripmo carbon V2. I rode one of these at a Brown County Indiana ride day and loved it. My son bought one so I bought one. Shuan at N+1 bikes is a good friend of mine and a large bike dealer so I've ridden alot of different brands of these. Like this Rocky Mountain Altitude the best. Bikes a beast on tech rocky climbs and goes down killer as well and also jumps great.
@TheLoamWolf
6 ай бұрын
Welcome to the dark side! haha. Enjoy and have fun.
@EatUpBoise
Жыл бұрын
LOVE my altitude power play. Motor is amazing. Just what I wanted in an e bike. Thing is a beast downhill and on jump lines.
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Right on thank you for sharing.
@jammerlr7780
Жыл бұрын
Love Rocky’s bikes. Hope to afford that very bike someday
@philcordeiro288
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review!!! Love Rocky Mountain!!!
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@robstyle7573
Жыл бұрын
Interesting you mentioned the rearward axle path/growing wheelbase, it's only 8mm total and 1mm more from squat. So I wouldn't classify it as such. Maybe the spring rate was a little on the light side? These reward a heavier spring out the back when coil sprung to rid that doughy feeling. I have a norco range for reference sake 🙂 Great review though team.
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@cristoffeemons1553
Жыл бұрын
22’ A70 owner here 👍 By far the best feeling ebike on the market and a great support network in the UK. Zero Bikes will hook you up 🤙
@florianschafauer2343
Жыл бұрын
Dream Edit Loam Wolfs, and dream Bike! Just about to purchase one ironically struggling weather to pick an L or an XL at 187cm height… Appreciate your work a lot, Cheers
@snigs5T5
Жыл бұрын
i'm 183 (6') and ride a large. I'd say if you like the "big bike feel" go XL. If not, go L.
@LastAphelion
Жыл бұрын
I've heard so many great things about the Altitude over the years that I have no idea what I'd pick between the E and non E version if I could only take one home. Part of me wants to be wacky and try the 27.5" Altitude 🤔
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a fun machine!
@cabbynate
Жыл бұрын
Was the boost set at +2? That really beings the motor to life without quite as much effort. The Factory tune it weak. I think for liability purposes lol! Great review! I love my A30 coil with a Crane creek progressive spring. If you deside to play with the tune I like 30% eco, 50% trail 1, 73% trail 2 and +2 Boost.
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, they didn't really talk about any adjustability to the motor settings, I didn't know you can, thanks!!
@cabbynate
Жыл бұрын
@@MTBzine It can all be done through the jumbo tron display and is super easy. You can make 2 custom profiles.
@aaronburela432
Жыл бұрын
108nm!? That thing is beast!
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Heck yeah it is!
@mrvwbug4423
Жыл бұрын
Sounds just like the regular Altitude. Point it downhill and it turns into an absolute weapon that begs you to ride it as fast as possible.
@robstyle7573
Жыл бұрын
To get around the torque sensor issue, you get used to putting motor back to zero assistance if you're going to sit around chit chatting and turning it back up to pedal again.
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Definitely a solution!
@bstevens7647
2 ай бұрын
I had a Rocky Mtn Altitude 4.0 . It required a lot more rider energy than a Brose, Bosch or Yamaha to get the most out of it. The biggest drawback was the battery charging system overcharged the battery and the battery exploded and burned everything in my garage to ashes. Rocky Mountain seemed to want to help, but in the end they just wanted to get the burned bike out of my possession and pretend it never happened. I feel a duty to warn potential buyers of the very real danger of keeping a Rocky Mountain bike indoors. The damage to my home and property is over 350k, and I am lucky to be alive. Don't take the risk with a Rocky Mountain E-MTB. It is not worth it.
@chrisbunker2573
4 ай бұрын
Nice looking bike but crazy expensive!!!
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review as always! Did Robert like the Large or would he have preferred the XL? I'm the same height as him and was curious. Thanks!!
@jroase1658
Жыл бұрын
Large
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Robert here. I prefer the large: I tend to size down, or aim for a 10-15mm shorter reach on an eMTB than an analogue mtb, as the extra weight low down aids stability. XL would become a little too unwieldy for my liking.
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf What was "Boost" set to when testing the bike? Sounds like its possible to have "soft pedal" feel from what the manual says: BOOST Adjust from +2 to -2 +2 Very little effort required from the rider. Maximum boost, minimum battery range: BRAAAAAP 0 Balanced performance, good response and battery range -2 Significant pedaling input required from rider, maximized battery range, best workout.
@McCanicScot
7 ай бұрын
1 month after receiving the Rocky Mountain altitude bike, riding it everyday. The charge plug cover keeps popping off, and then it ripped off. I had to tighten the cassette after a month of riding. Replacement parts seem to take forever to come in so I’m using tape over the port after every charge. The cable for the pointless air seat seized so I cut the cable, and removed it. Any replacement parts have to be bought from the dealer, and you can’t diagnose the system yourself, you have to pay the dealer too hook it up. Find a bike with more aftermarket support, with aftermarket replacement parts. Excellent drive system, but poor customer support, seems likes it’s all about the company making money, and not actually doing anything to bring costs down. this bike should last awhile, but My next bike might not be this brand, unless they smarten up.
@jonroley7382
Жыл бұрын
Does the higher torque delivered from the rocky drain the battery faster than the “standard” 85 from the other full power bikes?
@LastAphelion
Жыл бұрын
Great question I'd love to know
@TARTARAKURZHAAR
Жыл бұрын
Nice bike, thanks guys ! When you are in stand by position, why don't you simply put the cranks and your foot on the lowest position... !? And why don't you mention that all the bikes should have front and rear lights powered from the bike battery with on/off and menou control on the bar... !? (I think you can get my point of view, please don't take it the wrong way... !)
@RonnRider
Жыл бұрын
Great review as usual boys! You hit the nail on the head. Definitely would like shorter cranks but you do get use to it. Seeing as it has so much power, when you’re climbing you just need to give it that half pedal and it’ll shoot you over this obstacle. Also, that torque sensor thing is a a bit of a bummer but I’ve gotten accustomed to not putting so much weight on the pedal when I’m just sitting around and if it does show an error all you need to do is take your foot off for a second and it recalibrates instantaneously. Such an amazing bike though, and I love the control o get from that motor. I can go up right switch backs in ludicrous with perfect control. Now how many e-bikes can do that?👌🏾 It’s worth the effort for all the control the system gives you🫶🏾
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and glad you enjoyed our take too.
@NDemanuele1
Жыл бұрын
I am interested in RM Ebikes, so I'm glad you reviewed one of them. I'm wondering, I've heard RM motors overheat and have also heard about what you guys mentioned about the Display warning. Should these issues be a deal breaker? Thanks
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Neither of the 2 we've tested thus far have over heated, but it is a valid concern. Without knowing the conditions that caused over heating for RM owners (like were they climbing flow trails with gradual vert, did it happen on steep sustained climbs in ludicrous, etc), it's hard to say whether it's a deal breaker or not. As far as the Torque sensor warning, that's not much of a big deal, it's more of a nuisance but just be mindful that when you stop to regroup take both feet off the pedals to avoid the error.
@IronX77
Жыл бұрын
Original model Rocky owner here. It overheats when climbing in turbo/, ludicrous for 20ish minutes. The extra power creates hear that can't be dissipated fast enough. The app shows the temp if you really care, and I learned you can't just cheat mode yourself up steep mountain trails for long.
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in @Ess ay, had a feeling that was the case. Hopefully rocky can get that situated, but atleast it can be easily mitigated by the rider, albeit, at a cost.
@jamesforster4082
Жыл бұрын
Light weight e-bike shoot out next ?
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
You know it! First one coming this summer!
@duanethompson2879
Жыл бұрын
What was the geometry chip setting on the shock and rear axle for testing here? I keep them in the highest/short positions.......seems to work best for me
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
We had the rear axle in the short position, and kept the shock in the neutral setting (pos. 3).
@duanethompson2879
Жыл бұрын
@@TheLoamWolf Yep, that works well! And immediately got 165 (RF Atlas) cranks (170s were hittin') and some slender Spank Oozy pedals, to alleviate the pedal striking....good to GO!
@jbartziokas
11 ай бұрын
Seriously 5:30 What are you guys talking about? I just rented this bike for 3 days and the motor is SILENT! Everyone makes a huge deal about how quiet the new SL bikes are but never mention that this full power monster doesn't make a sound. Really strange that its not brought up more
@porroco
Жыл бұрын
Hello, wonder if all those bike are running with the stock tire wide or 2.6” wide configuration?
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
We ended up running thinner this year, with a 2.4 / 2.4 combo. We would have liked to run a 2.6 / 2.5 combo, but availability was thin for the amount of tires we needed. All tires were also Super Gravity / Addix Soft.
@RGAGS415
Жыл бұрын
It saved my ASS!
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Your ass needed all the saving it could get
@aaronburela432
Жыл бұрын
Just noticed it didn't have a chain 2:47
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
It’s missing more than that! 😂😂
@superyamagucci
Ай бұрын
The number of ways English has found to say "Shwalbe" is hilarious.
@j3f423
Жыл бұрын
Scott e ransom 920?
@j3f423
Жыл бұрын
Knenevo as welll
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
One other question. How would you compare the Dyname to the Bosch CX-Race motor as far as climbing power? I think you guys tried it on a Wild a few months ago?
@abelramos8652
Жыл бұрын
For uphill on a fireroad most prefer bosch or the others. To climb technical sections the Dyname is the ultimate motor, power and control balance have no match in any other system.
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
@@abelramos8652 I've only been able to see comparisons of the regular Bosch CX, but I see no comparisons with the Bosch CX-Race motor. Have you ever tried the Bosch CX-Race to compare? Also, is it increased rider input "Torque" that gets more of the motor power to click in or is it increased "Cadence"? Thanks!!
@abelramos8652
Жыл бұрын
@@MTBzine mainly the Race CX has a brutal overrun, just a hit on the cranks and it goes. Then you got more power of the motor in a wider cadence range, low and high cadence, but yes it’s the motor wich take the effort not you. But that overrun is the key. I tell you, I don’t like it is a throttle on the pedals.
@MTBzine
Жыл бұрын
@@abelramos8652 I prefer the overrun just because of the terrain we ride, lots of very steep technical rock slab sections that's impossible to pedal up once you get on the slab no mater how powerful the motor. The overrun in our riding areas on a ebike is mandatory unless you can trials up using a short pedal stroke like a trials move. That's why I'm curious if you get full power out of the Dyname from Rider input torque or cadence.
@abelramos8983
Жыл бұрын
@@MTBzineno the dyname has no overrun at all instead it has inmediatly response to the pedals an lots of torque but need the whole spinning motion but not crazy spinning is still easy to timing on the terrain. But the Race cx overrun is insane. Try both if you can
@McCanicScot
7 ай бұрын
Update replacement part worth $8.00 arrived after a month in the rain. Seat post cable seized, not warranted for post cable, and $20 for the shipping on replacement cover. Rude customer service at my local dealership, not supporting his little monsters. Eww.
@flippy66
Жыл бұрын
That huge black panel covering the motor which doesn't match the bike at all 😬
@malanalan1
Жыл бұрын
what if you can not push hard? I am afraid their motor is no match to BOSH or SyncDrive. I don't think those guys have any understanding how ebikes work.
@da12641
Жыл бұрын
why is the Power Play always pregnant? Does the engineers have a fetish for it?
@abelramos8652
Жыл бұрын
Because then they birth the next gen that’s even better than the previous
@joshuaallswang8016
Жыл бұрын
No more E-BIKES PLEASEEEE!! If I wanna see a motorcycle, I’ll watch Motocross!💯
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
But…it’s an eBike shootout series. We have to finish it. Plus, all our motorcycles have throttles. These don't. So I guess they aren't motorcycles??
@snigs5T5
Жыл бұрын
Te each their own. If you don't like 'em, don't watch. Or hit the gym. Seems like that's more your thing. 🤣
@joshuaallswang8016
Жыл бұрын
@@snigs5T5 Your right I do hit the gym, I’ll also dust you on a mountain bike. Either way I’ll out work you! and if you continue to ride E-bikes that will just make it even easier for me as you get softer!💯
@snigs5T5
Жыл бұрын
@@joshuaallswang8016 doubtful on the mtb dusting, but hey, keep that 'roid rage going. 😆
@joshuaallswang8016
Жыл бұрын
@@snigs5T5 lol never took Roids in my life! I’m just not a soft ass dude like you!!🤔🤣
@betttina33333
Жыл бұрын
NICE
@ddsgardening7437
Жыл бұрын
G'day, u guys going to include the Giant Reign?🫰
@TheLoamWolf
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not this year, we wanted it but we got the Trance X instead.
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