FYI, giving the R model the full top end power of the RS model, is a few clicks in TuneECU away. It's all done in software now. The first gen 765 had a different cam profile and tune for the R and RS model. From 2020 on up, its the same motor, same cam, same fuel and ignition tables, etc... They restrict the ride by wire tables on the R to close down the throttle plates to 80% after 8500rpm, while the RS keeps them 100% open till redline. That's why the RS has more top end power. The R is governed electronically, but you can flash the ECU from an Android phone to get rid of that and give the R full power.
@rohanalias9053
Жыл бұрын
Also in my country the r is considerably cheaper than the rs as well
@SquireSCA
Жыл бұрын
@@rohanalias9053 Yeah, so unless you need the higher spec suspension or dash, you can get the R, and then unlock it yourself to deliver the full RS top end power.
@rohanalias9053
Жыл бұрын
@@SquireSCA also the r already has good enough handling and is also better in the road
@SquireSCA
Жыл бұрын
@@rohanalias9053 well that was the case prior to 2020. Since then the rs is just as good on the road if not better.
@stuartsharpe5513
Жыл бұрын
White with the black looks great 👍
@fishyfish06
Жыл бұрын
I have a 675 R 2016 Street Triple, which I find is the best bike I’ve ever had. I love it. The sound is awesome, and the power is fab…….however………..as I recently saw the 2023 model at the dealers, and 2 of my mates have put a deposit on the R/S, ( Red & Yellow one ) I must say, that I really want one……..what a fab bike.
@paulbarnes6124
Жыл бұрын
Rob a bank 🏦 if you have to !!
@williamrainbow4115
Жыл бұрын
I am waiting for delivery myself. I test rode the 2021 model what a bike. I would suggest a test ride to have a taste
@robertdavis4761
Жыл бұрын
Great review as always!!! I’m thinking about buying the RS or Moto2 as my next bike so I’ve been waiting anxiously for these reviews. Will you also have a chance to ride the Moto2? I’m not a track rider so the RS or R are better for me but I absolutely love the styling of the Moto2 with those clip ons and paint scheme! 😊
@dmitrybatishchev2867
Жыл бұрын
Excellent review, thank you. Would you build it into a race bike?
@brynn2001
Жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the 2022 RS like is it worth trading up for?
@markc6030
Жыл бұрын
Great review Toad , which floated your boat more this or the Monster SP you recently tested?
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Tricky, for out and out road road riding, the Monster SP is more fun, wheelie everywhere and it just makes you giggle. This though is more focused, feels a bit classier and would probably be the more sensible if you do frequent trackdays.
@villeayras5371
Жыл бұрын
This v.s. Duke 890R ? If this is nimble then how about the KTM ? This has more power but the KTM still has more power and torque all the way to it's red line, where the Triumph just keeps on reving. So 765 RS v.s. 890R. Which is better ?
@zsalemmackall
Жыл бұрын
I want one lol
@Ian-bq7gp
Жыл бұрын
The street triple is to bikes what the jag is to cars
@Szlejer
Жыл бұрын
Good bike, but still unbearably ugly. And boring.
@Vincent-rc2nb
Жыл бұрын
10:14 this exactly. The 2018 triples have better digital layouts than the new model. Still very hyped for mine but they should def change it. I dont like the mirror effect.
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
It was actually inspired by a drainage ditch. Makes you wonder if the designers actually ride or test out their “work”
@davidebbs2797
Жыл бұрын
Agreed the display on my 18 R is super easy to read👍 the display on the new RS is a bit of a mess...🤔
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
@@davidebbs2797 the new design would have been fine IN ADDITION to 17-18-19 generation tach styles. But the fact that they completely got rid of them is humorous. They shot themselves in the foot.
@adr2567
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like Triumph are going to hit it out of the park again. They look fantastic and one can hope that the new changes make the bike handle even better. I’d love to own one but for the cost constraints, maybe in the future who knows?! 😅
@RikkyTang
Жыл бұрын
Great video cheers Toad! I can't stand that tacho layout Triumph use on this bike and a few others either... I mean seriously, mirroring the rev counter? What were they thinking. Shame about the wheelie control (or lack of) too, otherwise this bike looks mega.
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
Yes, this was brought to Triumphs attention when they first released it years ago. Apparently they are being stubborn as the easy fix would be to revert to previous gen software where many different styles were available.
@VincentTL
Жыл бұрын
That tach on the RS is almost a dealbreaker for me. It’s one of the reasons I felt good about getting the 2021 R (plus the fact that I didn’t have the extra cash to buy the RS). I think there are enough improvements in the new RS that I would be willing to overlook the curiously ugly tach with the hope that perhaps a firmware update could fix the problem. I agree, the tach on the 2019 RS is quite usable and they should bring that to the new RS.
@rowdstar
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the tach on my 23 tiger 900 is annoying. I have a 24 street rs on order
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Yeah the wheelie control is a shame, it's there, but doesn't act/can't be manipulated. It's similar on other Triumph's like the Tiger 1200 with electronic suspension. It has posh suspension, but the setting only goes from soft, to sporty, you can;t adjust ride height, preload f/r or anything else. On other models you can, and as a short small rider, that really helps me out.
@RikkyTang
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown Cheers Toad. I've only got about an inch on you but with long sexy 32" legs 😂
@motorcyclerider3956
Жыл бұрын
Call me old fashioned if you like but you can't beat the old school speedo and rev counter for instant clear information at a quick glance, and probably safer as you can spend more time on looking where you are going.
@raphgurzo3638
Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, loved it ! One question still: would you say that it is worth spending the extra money to get the RS compared to the R?
@v1tt0r1o4
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@raphgurzo3638
Жыл бұрын
@@v1tt0r1o4 Talking about 2023 model ?
@vigilant.
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@raphgurzo3638
Жыл бұрын
Did you guys get to try the new bikes?
@v1tt0r1o4
Жыл бұрын
@@raphgurzo3638 I ordered the RS
Жыл бұрын
Street triple RR in yellow for me, please. The speed triple RR is too much for my age and wallet and I am no track day kid. by the way, I don't know why nobody blatlantly says that the clocks of the R version is the same one in trident. Don't like the plasticky looking white lines, but it has been lauded as a good one, with the possibility to add turn-by-turn... or am I missing something?
@quacktac
Жыл бұрын
The geometry changes make me wonder if an RR version or a Daytona is coming.
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
No, but I wouldn't bet against an RR. Think of it like this. The Moto2 street triple is to whet you appetitive. In a year or so why not release one with the clip on, but on the stock suspension - and the Street Triple 765 RR is born... We can dream, right?
@alexpryce555
Жыл бұрын
The R model pricing is fantastic. Hell of a lot of machine for the money
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
@ sub-£10k, that's a lot of bike for the money!
@CyberGasty
Жыл бұрын
As I recall, when testing it, 2019 RS had a much better display layout with the same display unit.
@Final_Boss_Racing
Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe he didn’t lose his mind like he does at other people who accidentally walk through the camera shot😂
@pggp273
Жыл бұрын
Do you think he has anger management issues as well as alcohol issues ?
@Final_Boss_Racing
Жыл бұрын
@@pggp273 it does seem like it sometimes lol I’ve seen him go crazy on people in at least 3 different videos and one time he lost it multiple times during the same video😳
@davidhardstaff8110
Жыл бұрын
Go in a studio if you don't want interruptions freedom means tolerance no one owns free space..
@Final_Boss_Racing
Жыл бұрын
@@davidhardstaff8110 if he went in the studio then he wouldn’t have anybody to scream at😂
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
I was very thirsty.
@marksmith8663
Жыл бұрын
I just sold my STR 2014 for a 2015 Daytona R still love the 675 for more track riding .
@daniilrusanau5849
Жыл бұрын
Great to watch, thank you! Although, why is it still grainy 1080p and not 4k in 2023?
@JamesSonJameson
Жыл бұрын
Toad - as always good work but what about the Moto2 Limited Edition review, did Triumph not offer that bike for review?
@nismospec2649
Жыл бұрын
They were all sold out, so the only way to review one was to give them a customer's bike which they weren't going to do.
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Well, actually you are wrong, and right. Yes we'd need to blag a customer bike, but as it happens, a mate has one on order, so I'll be swinging a leg over that in the coming months!
@VFactory-vl5fi
Жыл бұрын
I love that they’ve given it more power. I love that they’ve given it the Ohlins and Stylema callipers. Is it a better road bike than the duke 890r? Depends wether torque or hp floats your boat. I will be trying both of these bikes this year just for the hell of it.
@iNFiN3
Жыл бұрын
doubt they can pull out much more from a 765 cc engine without failing the euro 5 norms, also the unrestricted Moto2 engine makes only 15 HP more the the street version. The next one will probably go up to 850+ cc, also I dont think you need much more then 130 HP to have fun on the road and track, atleast not on smaller tracks most of the street buyers can afford, doubt any1 who spends 11 grand on a bike is also spending 1 grand to go ride the jerezes or the silverstones where you actualy benefit from the 200 HP bikes.
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
The Duke R is wild fun, but its also fairly agricultural in some respects. The Triumph day-to-day on the road would be easier for me to live with.
@VFactory-vl5fi
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown I ride a 2018 Superduke R so I think that would be my preference. 😂👌🏼
@yoon9193
Жыл бұрын
Don't know how work the ktm 890 but i had a 990 smr for several years. Very fun but you can't ride at low speed, looking at the landscapes etc......because the engine doesn't allowed it and it's annoying by the end. I'm gonna order this triumph to replace it.the most difficult will be choosing between the red carnival and the cosmic yellow 😅
@tigerick7291
Жыл бұрын
Why can't they just fit an adjustable shift light on them like they did right back in 2010? Lovely bike.👍
@swieri2003
Жыл бұрын
If you need a fkn shift light it says everything about someone’s ability
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
On track this defo needs a shift light, it's quite quiet, and the rev-counter hard to read. some big bright LEDs would really help that!
@nottherealaaron
Жыл бұрын
Is it confirmed that due to the new exhaust setup we will not be able to install slip on exhausts anymore?
@Apeeksiht
Жыл бұрын
Yes saw the review on overdrive, they said all the exhaust components are single unit now. So either stick with it or buy full system.
@andys8483
Жыл бұрын
For some reason, I am not a fan of bikes with 'bug-eye' lights. They remind me of praying mantis eyes. It's a minor point but one that would put me off on an otherwise, great bike.
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
When these new models first came out, I did miss the round headlights, although now I'm not so sure, they definitely look more modern
@Peskarik
6 ай бұрын
What were the track suspension settings, please?
@howardfreedman4289
Жыл бұрын
Great video review as always. Have you compared this with the KTM Duke 890R? If so, thoughts?
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Not yet, this is hot off the press and I only got home Saturday - at least let me get my bag unpacked! ;-)
@1TotalNoob
Жыл бұрын
They kept that horrible dash: tachometer! Pass!
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been passing on them for years because of this. Still waiting 💵
@xpantz
Жыл бұрын
It's on the Tiger too. The other bike I might buy. I have no idea why Triumph persist with it. It's very hard to read at a glance and if you have to stare at it for too long then that's not safe.
@dive_damian
Жыл бұрын
It may be competent but how does it compare to the manic MV Agusta Brutale 800RR? Everyone ignores this comparison and places the triumph against a KTM Duke which is chalk and cheese. The MV, despite a significant bump in price and beauty is the real benchmark.
@blahblahblahblah5232
Жыл бұрын
Not having a visible red line is weird
@twistandgo3414
Жыл бұрын
Be interested to know how much of a difference there was in your lap times between the Panigale V4 and Street RS. suspect the RS was more fun to ride?
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Actually, I can tell you that! Roughly 8-seconds between the 214bhp Ducati and 128bhp Triumph. There is an equation relating laptime / price in there somewhere!
@twistandgo3414
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown jeez, that's actually more than i thought it would be, but jerez is a fast flowing track so I guess the street loses out a fair bit on the faster sections. - Be different round cadwell or knockhill though! Thanks for the reply 😁😎👍
@chriswest2290
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown what tyres where the y both running ?
@chriswest2290
Жыл бұрын
@Paul B to the 8 second difference in track times, the bikes where on different rubber?
@davidebbs2797
Жыл бұрын
They've had 3 years of Trumpeteers feedback on the TFT display and no change on the RS?🧐 One thing worth noting is the whole exhaust is 1 piece so no slip-ons will be available...👎
@borkarms
Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the new 2023 street triple RS review, watched it first only on Visor Down...Toad it was Brilliant as always.
@jonberlin6131
Жыл бұрын
Are you wearing an airbag vest in the road? If so which one? Cheers
@JustWill22
Жыл бұрын
Plastic tank ruins it for me , I will wait a year or 2 to see if many get recalls
@PeterOlexa_
Жыл бұрын
Does the new RS handle better than the 890 R Duke?
@LuckyLuke_81
Жыл бұрын
Hi, great vid and really quickly published! Is it possible to change the gearshift pattern withhout aftermarket rear sets? Also what's better for track, Triumph or Duke 890? Thank in advance!
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the lever is siwtchable like on some models. I'd still say this for Track over pretty much every other middleweight naked. It's the chassis, the Daytona DNA and that inline three cylinder engine really do make the bike what it is!
@clintstechtips6571
Жыл бұрын
Does it have cruise control?
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
Жыл бұрын
So far all these videos are missing point of view stuff while riding. I wonder if Triumph nixed that for now. I know they have embargo rules, but….🤨
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
We had POV stuff?
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown sorry, I meant comments while riding. Usually there’s a lot of that with these videos, but all have lacked that so far. Not a knock on this content. 👍 In the helmet commentary was the phrase I was searching for….
@Carlos-iu9wn
Жыл бұрын
Have a deposit on a Moto2 currently own a Duke 890r. I'm tempted to pull out and keep the Duke. Didn't like the plastic tank, no moto2 reviews, and would want a cowl on the front.
@paulnorman8274
Жыл бұрын
Are you crazy?!!! :) I mean: You're obviously not particularly cash challenged. The Moto2 will no doubt be really special. You've got the money and managed to get on the list: The Moto2, regardless of how it turns out, will be "special" enough that it may be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. You can always sell it later, for not much of a loss, if it turns out it's not for you. 890s will always be plentiful. Personally, I'm 6 feet. The STR is a bit on the tight side. My knees don't really get along with it for more than an academic hour at a time. But the Daytona works much better. By pitching the rider more forward, the posterior chain takes on some off the load which on more upright bikes goes straight through the knees. So your (at least mine, and I'm not the only one) knees can bend tighter for longer, without getting painful. Man, what an essay...: Point being, I bet the lower bar on the Moto2, for me at least, would make the bike _more_ comfortable to ride than the regular STRs. And that's on top of the Daytona being my favourite track bike ever. You're a lucky guy to be on that Moto2 list. Don't waste the opportunity!
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Sadly for us, the Moto2 is sold out so no need to endanger the bikes by handing them over to us. To be honest, we rarely get to try the limited edition models, the Daytona Moto2 was a bit different, they did have one on the press fleet for a while, but they won't have any of these.
@themenacethemenace
Жыл бұрын
Does Wheelie control still let you lift the front at all? Or it stops it once it feels the front about to lift?
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
If you pop a small wheelie, it'll flatten it out, if you lift up more, nearer the balance point you can hold it there.
@DB-sd3cw
Жыл бұрын
Is superior handling the only benefit of the street triple over the MT-09?
@nigelfisher3756
Жыл бұрын
Possibly, but the MT-09 is still a bit ugly, especially compared with the Triumph
@alexpryce555
Жыл бұрын
Street triple is higher reving and power delivery is more similar to an inline 4 in that it's peaky. MT09 has more low- midrange grunt, similar to a twin. MT09 is more of a muscle bike
@DB-sd3cw
Жыл бұрын
@Alex Pryce I've owned a 2017 MT-09 (FZ-09 in the states), I'm just curious why the street triple might be worth buying over the current gen MT-09. Sounds like it's just a powerpand preference at this point?
@fyorbane
Жыл бұрын
The Triumph is lighter and has a much better level of fit and finish. The looks are far superior too in my opinion. And it has a better top end. The Triumph being a smaller engine lacks the low and mid range grunt of the Yam.
@xpantz
Жыл бұрын
@@nigelfisher3756 765RS, MT07/9, KTM890 plenty of people who say each of them is ugly. 🙂 All great bikes though... buy the one that rides the way you like.
@mstelios4259
Жыл бұрын
How did they manage to make it even uglier, tho?
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
IT looks basically the same?
@ridingdriving
Жыл бұрын
pretty stupid thing to do with the tachometer considering the bike segment
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
You mean you want a legible tach at 160mph? Why!?
@ridingdriving
Жыл бұрын
@@kignacio then how would you know its 160mph LOL!!
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
So you know when you are bouncing off the limiter! This bike is quiet, and the rev-limiter very soft. It's nice to have a reminder you are nearing the top of the rev-range, that's why MotoGP bike have them...
@jonfensu
Жыл бұрын
Too bad they ditched the analog tacho on the R
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
to be honest, the TFT on the RS is one of its flaws, you have no chance of knowing where you are in the rev-range using that stylised screen, it needs a proper tacho - even in digital form.
@a4bsicinema668
Жыл бұрын
Nice review, still doesn't understand the colour variants...
@visordown
Жыл бұрын
Triumph normally do some more sombre colours to start, then they crack out the colour pallet further down the line. It's a shame, there is the Cosmic Yellow bike, although we didn't get to ride that, sadly!
@MadChalet
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown The red I've seen in pics looks amazing. Thanks for the informative review!
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
@@visordown I mean, all I saw from 2017-2022 was black white silver and red pinstripes anywhere they could put them.
@flatcapcaferacer
Жыл бұрын
It looks like the 2024 to me according to Triumph's website.
@xpantz
Жыл бұрын
Only in the US. You guys have a different year system. It's a 2023 in the UK, rest of Europe, Australia, Asia.
@kignacio
Жыл бұрын
Easy choice: The one with a legible radial tachometer.
@xpantz
Жыл бұрын
LOL. I have a 2020 RS and I hate the dash and don't know anyone except the dealer who says it's ok. Still I love the bike so much I put a deposit on the Moto2 version back in early Nov 22. Enjoy the bike don't look at the dash... it's a shame but the bike is so good I'd buy it without a dash at all. 🙂
@eusaphzai
Жыл бұрын
Triumph really do make real fugly bikes….
@SirMountainpass
Жыл бұрын
It is still an ugly motorbike, especially when it comes to the front mask and the exhaust system - does not change for the better in 2023 😷
@RideThatThing69
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to ride the moto 2 when it arrives 👊✊️✊️
@pggp273
Жыл бұрын
Old Potty mouth at it again but at least he had the courtesy of bleeping out the profanities on this occasion. He's learning but not quick enough. Also I wonder if he has alcohol issues, keeps having to nip off and have a beer. I guess he thinks it makes him look cool or hard or something.
@rugbyvideo4531
Жыл бұрын
You sound a tiny bit jealous
@pggp273
Жыл бұрын
@@rugbyvideo4531 Of what exactly ? Old baldy that is so lardy that he has to have his suspension set up for him that has a peculiar relationship with alcohol 🤔 I don't think so
@rugbyvideo4531
Жыл бұрын
Here we go tap tap tap on the moral high ground about swearing then accusing the chap of having an alcohol issue just appreciate the video for what it is, a bike review nothing else
@pggp273
Жыл бұрын
@@rugbyvideo4531 There are others that do reviews better. You have to accept that if you put yourself out there not everyone is going to like you. If you are deluded enough to think they do then stop this utube nonsense before someone gets bitt hurt
@DB-sd3cw
Жыл бұрын
@@pggp273 you sound like you have really low testosterone. Sorry little fella.
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