Thanks so much Baba Mngomezulu when you said tribalism is nonsense from Gwede Mantashe.
@BrianSolomon-f5h
4 ай бұрын
Malema losing support but still acts like he is in charge. Gravy train is running out of gravy. The problem for the ANC is that they will now be even more exposed of their corruption.
@american.imperialism
4 ай бұрын
Malema is still in charge.
@BrianSolomon-f5h
4 ай бұрын
The voters is in charge. If you don't believe me, look at the results. Democracy is alive and it does not like Malema.
@gugumgabhi5316
4 ай бұрын
ANC will never self.correct if it continues making tribalism excuses . This is time for honest reflection and self correct going forward
@limpopoRiver
4 ай бұрын
Ramadollar's mission was only one to destroy the ANC.....and he completed the mission with flying colours!!!!
@MaSokhuluSokhulu
4 ай бұрын
Dlakadla your are right it's very dangerous term for the country Dlakadla
@hgfku-tn6hb
4 ай бұрын
This is the first Anc President to experience such a great loss. Ramaphosa remained useless and ANC defended him
@jonathanvandenberg3571
4 ай бұрын
Zuma destroyed the foundations, he gave the house to Ramaphosa then it collapsed. No-one tries to really fix the issues, jobs, electricty, economy. They are only finding ways the excuse the situation, but not fix. Places 20 years with no water, schools etc, it won't change. still now after this election, it won't change. Who has the plan for those pain-points? i never heard one from any party.
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
That's a very stupid ignorant conclusion. What nonsense is "such a great loss", were the people rejecting Cyril or ANC? Learn to Read! When exactly did people lose trust in the ANC? Were you expecting Zuma and Zumantians to vote for Cyril?
@margaretlesoleso
4 ай бұрын
Anc is made of people, not only Ramaphosa. Stop fighting zuma battles
@margaretlesoleso
4 ай бұрын
@@Point-taken 🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️,. Let fools remain fools, it's a pity that we have to engage with them, because their comments can be infuriating at times
@limpopoRiver
4 ай бұрын
@@Point-takenbathong numbers dont lie....this election are the WORST performance for the anc, all in the name of protecting crook and lehodu lela bareng ke ramadollar. The only loser on the election is ANC!!! You took the country for granted now look people like you are still defending rubbish doti!!!
@samuelt.kisaame7787
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa knew from 2017 that pretending to be a Sheep or Vegetarian of sorts among wolves would eventually catch up with him. He knew all along upon being elected ANC President that he would be a "Shepherd" of Wolves until the time in which they would devour themselves and him. Well, the elections of 29 May 2024 was that time. His legacy has been tarnished too.
@ArishaHarrichand-ux1rh
4 ай бұрын
The fear of the past will keep Africa exactly there.
@stanleynkosikamthembu168
4 ай бұрын
"Africa" has nothing to with this. Don't Africanise everything happening i this country. The ANC had to deliver to our people, South Africans, over 30 years, it failed in the easiest of tasks and with significant majorities given in successive elections.
@american.imperialism
4 ай бұрын
Don't tell us that we're supposed to vote for white people. We know white people don't like us, they never will like us.
@loo-h4e
4 ай бұрын
The past is reality thanks to people like you 🤔who want to carry on without scars🤔 but with the past attitude 🤔🤔
@Hist247
4 ай бұрын
It is failure to remember the past that destroyed the ANC. Continue with that failure and it will become nothing.
@eldios831
4 ай бұрын
Those who talk about africa like you do....still don't move away from africa or stop talking about africa...why not move away and forget africa exist...that will be a big favour 😊
@tatendakavhendekete2585
4 ай бұрын
Mbalula is very quiet now where are you my brother kkkk
@Shathagan
4 ай бұрын
He was supposed to address the nation at 10.30. Typical ANC incompetence, always late
@ThibushiSimon
4 ай бұрын
He is sick of dancing come duze
@biko8229
4 ай бұрын
😂😂🤣
@samkelisiwecarolmlambo8231
4 ай бұрын
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
@ayandasigxashe7198
4 ай бұрын
He was addressing the press around 11am via EWN livestream! That man talk🙉
@Llllltgyh
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa should have stayed as a business man. He would have saved his name. This will go down in history.
@ntombimanzini7010
4 ай бұрын
abasho namanje,bamrata kawufela😂
@Llllltgyh
4 ай бұрын
@@ntombimanzini7010 it is so sad now. 100 years to come people will speak about 2024.
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
The ANC didn't win the majority, it has been on decline for some time.
@margaretlesoleso
4 ай бұрын
He never stole from government coffers 😎😎
@Llllltgyh
4 ай бұрын
@@margaretlesoleso not paying is stealing, imagine you don't pay tax on your one salary.
@musa-p5b
4 ай бұрын
Thanks professor Mngomezulu for the sport on analysis as always.We were fooled by this narrative of the new dawn,, Ramaphosa being part of the Zuma adminstration, the state capture commission didn't find any thing wrong in Ramaphosa, that alone speaks volumes, We now know how the white monopoly in this country operates, We also know that Chris Hani was not happy about what transpired in Codesa , Guess who was leading the negotiations? The answer is Mr New Dawn.Our beloved leberation movement is collapsing right in front of us because the structure of leadership iwas built on factionalism.
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
You are only repeating a lot of what you heard... Say something, so we can respond accordingly. What role exactly did white monopoly play here? Not heresy. FACTS!
@thomasmoyo1198
4 ай бұрын
No more dollars under the mattress.
@PhumlaneAmbroseNdaba-n6o
4 ай бұрын
Were stolen!
@SandileTac
4 ай бұрын
Hiding on the cardboard
@tebogomekgwa-9537
4 ай бұрын
Corruption and crime, and service delivery led to this. People no longer have hope to ANC. If they only fix those things maybe next votes they will improve.
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
4 ай бұрын
Mngomezulu ❤the king, tell them,they are influencing violence.
@picassocube3521
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa may not be a hero to ordinary SAns, but to those who sent him, he has done a great job in bringing the party to their coalition target! Zuma may not be Jesus but, there're commonalities, those who loves him are prepared to die for him, and those who hate him are prepared to kill him!
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
4 ай бұрын
Well said! I bet they didn't count on the unrest that prevented their attempt on President Zuma and the subsequent upset he has caused. rama was supposed to hand the ANC to the DA on a silver platter
@GodcaresDube
4 ай бұрын
Yah you are right
@TruthbBeTold
4 ай бұрын
Loadshedding tomorrow😂😂
@Luba_Dyasi
4 ай бұрын
The new dawn never happened
@PhumlaneAmbroseNdaba-n6o
4 ай бұрын
Became ever very darkness!
@yanonaidoo1552
4 ай бұрын
Why can't we as human beings come together irrespective of colour creed religion We should be so blessed to be born as humans We need to take care of each other with love for each other Love and compassion is all that is needed to go forward
@anticorrup-g5o
4 ай бұрын
We will evolve and get there. Too many cobwebs, 400 years worth, plus bad governance, corruption, gutter education etc etc.
@paulb3436
4 ай бұрын
Love and compassion won't stop the tide of corruption
@mambathokozani2902
4 ай бұрын
That's exactly what Zuma is hated for ,for trying to treat everyone equally and fair.The elite want everything for themselves and the rest of us to have nothing ,have ever heard of someone who stach dollars in mattresses and just get away with it???
@Betty-fe9ql
4 ай бұрын
Human beings cannot come together the way you thinking coz some human beings are so evil and they don't care about others they live by the saying it's a dog eat dog world
@american.imperialism
4 ай бұрын
White people have no respect for black people and Indians think they are our helpers. We can't come together, there's no country that exists with blacks and white equal. Whites will never accept that
@ianduplessis7892
4 ай бұрын
Where are the orange overalls?
@DumisaniMlenzane
4 ай бұрын
Also the white crooks who burn our flag and those so called markets who manipulated the rand
@thabangtlhavani6269
4 ай бұрын
He failed south Africans😢
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
4 ай бұрын
I'm really not suprised by how Ramadollar has failed dismally in his presidency,the guy has never really been interested in being the president or leading the country,he said it himself he said presidency is his part time job.He actually describes himself a business man before and the presidency is part time job.Can you in your sober mind be comfortable and take that person seriously who is not seeing the importance and criticality of the sit he is sitting on?
@nathimkz7071
4 ай бұрын
I really don't understand how South African think or maybe they actually don't think at all, how can you continue voting for the government that says people from the age of 35 are old to be employed? Remaphosa is a disgrace. I'm sure wherever he is, he knows that fact and he must accept the fact that uyisahluleki...
@craigclifton7254
4 ай бұрын
Can we get rid of bheke Celle soon?
@GodcaresDube
4 ай бұрын
He must be the first to go that one with his nonsense 🎩
@DennisZwane
4 ай бұрын
Going going gone my fellow South African
@sibongileviolet887
4 ай бұрын
Ngiyithanda mayiza ned la😂😂😂😂😂
@meshcknwashe9101
4 ай бұрын
ANC members choose him to lead
@mvubu6823
4 ай бұрын
Where is razzmatazz? That palooka needs to show his face.
@L_L350
4 ай бұрын
The new dusk for the ANC.
@carolthomas405
4 ай бұрын
He only has himself to blame for the decline of ANC supporters
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
That's very stupid to say, where have you been for the last 25 years? You don't know why people have been leaving the ANC?
@carolthomas405
4 ай бұрын
@Point-taken you have your opinion and I have mine
@samuelt.kisaame7787
4 ай бұрын
Too late for that.
@mosesmoeketsi3501
4 ай бұрын
ANC HAS BEEN ON THE DECLINE FOREVER, CHECK THE HISTORY AND WILL CONTINUE IF IT DOESN'T MOVE FROM THE PAST, DA IS LEARNING AND IS ALREADY APPEALING TO PEOPLE WHO WERE ANC VOTERS, BUT THE CORRUPT WTHIN ANC ARE HOLDING THE PARTY BACKWARDS,
@Tshidi-g2b
4 ай бұрын
Since ramaphosa came... ANC has lost 22%..pooloka of note
@margaretlesoleso
4 ай бұрын
I don't think Ramaphosa has taken politics as his career. The man is rich, he doesn't need politics for survival. So much can be said about others 🤸🤸♂️🤸♀️
@sbukeli
4 ай бұрын
He wasn't suppose to take it as a career in the first place. He was elected to lead this country. Same like he'd be elected to lead a company and he failed!
@margaretlesoleso
4 ай бұрын
@@sbukeli what fid you and I do toremedy that, nothing except to come to social media to vent our desperation and pointing fingers right left and center😭😭😭
@seriejessy8878
4 ай бұрын
He should resign.
@ntombimanzini7010
4 ай бұрын
true🤞
@joecruiser
4 ай бұрын
SA is going rapidly back to the times Of the Flintstones, Stone Ages. Only Criminals are the top favorite candidates.
@stanleynkosikamthembu168
4 ай бұрын
Noting what the Prof has said, still the challenges of the ANC started with CODESA, the opened borders, the HIV-AIDS mess, the Arms Deal, etc., CR17/22 would not have been able to put the genie back into the bottle after all these. Sadly, he could have handled COVID differently, load-shedding worsened. It does not start with CR17/22, it was simply a continuation of the failing trajectory.
@KwaMshenguVille
4 ай бұрын
I hate tribalism and much as I hate xenophobia and racism.
@zipt5
4 ай бұрын
Tsek cyril, tsek anc.
@NomthandazoKamana
4 ай бұрын
Phambili ngoRamaphosa akayi ndawo viva ANC
@Anthony-j3i
4 ай бұрын
Wena safuna ramaphosa I don't think yr upstairs is ok unless you chowing tenders with them ramaphosa failed dismal in everything he must go anc NEC will chase him dlise khetho abantu abagcwali ngaye akahambe aye phala phala somlanda khona sizombopha wantshontsha imali eningi wafihla kusofa
@lancencube5205
4 ай бұрын
No what want went wrong is Ramaposa.simple.
@thobamngadi5254
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa protected codesa more than Mandela
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
4 ай бұрын
The accusation of "tribalism" against President Zuma is not unlike the accusations of "tyranny" against Gaddafi, hopefully South Africans are well-read.
@EllenZodwaDube
4 ай бұрын
Anc they still going to lose the Metropolitan because of they bad behavior viva Mkhonto Alluta Continua siyanqoba from Gauteng eKurhuleni Tembisa phambili Msholozi 💚💚💚💯
@sasha8664
4 ай бұрын
When will Zuma be arrested?
@multitechsolutions3168
4 ай бұрын
fool
@thembalethugigaba4329
4 ай бұрын
Arrested for what? Because Ramaphosa must arrested for Phala Phala saga
@scelomavuso5834
4 ай бұрын
Arrested unyoko
@jonathanvandenberg3571
4 ай бұрын
We don't usually arrest criminals
@thomasmoyo1198
4 ай бұрын
Arrest him for what
@tshepotau5754
4 ай бұрын
You are a researcher and professor by mistake. Don't you know what Zuma did to harm the ANC? Zuma did not resign even after he had lied about having a bond with Absa. You are grossly out of touch with reality. Zuma is also complaining about the fact that there was no growth when he was president.
@sonwabokoti2259
4 ай бұрын
And Zuma is going to take MK back to the ANC. Firstly he is going to try and remove his adversaries in the ANC using MK in negotiations. Then MK party is part of the ANC and its history and we are back in Zupta 2.0 . The MK part is saying they won't negotiate with the ANC of CR.
@MarlLennox
4 ай бұрын
Stop focussing on the past, using apartheid as an excuse. South Africans are too tired of this. Focus on the future, and you will get the support of 80% of the people. Viva SA and it's citizens.
@andystofile4938
4 ай бұрын
It was determined by tribalism..yenzeka ngoku
@sbukeli
4 ай бұрын
People were no longer happy with the ANC. Are you saying they should've stayed and voted ANC like the EC keeps doing even though they remain poor? Western Cape used to belong to the ANC too!
@GodcaresDube
4 ай бұрын
If KZN by voting MK are called tribalist so as Limpopo, Ramaphosa’s province 73 % ANC so as Western Cape whites by voting DA so as the Boer by voting VV+
@SprinbokInTheSnow
4 ай бұрын
How they got here 😂😂😂 30 years of incompetence and corruption. Just give Zuma his pardon and he’ll go back to the Guptas in Dubai.
@delmahnori1582
4 ай бұрын
Damaphossa days are numbered and found wanting
@fhatuwanimaselesele2816
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa lost to TRIBALIST
@fhatuwanimaselesele2816
4 ай бұрын
Zulu votes for ZULU CANDIDATE
@LefaITkonnect
4 ай бұрын
Tribalism is nonsense 😅
@sonjamarx7144
4 ай бұрын
Maybw they must first look at the history and previoys paintings before hiring someone to paunt such a personal painting
@fhatuwanimaselesele2816
4 ай бұрын
Zulu vote for ZULU CANDIDATE
@MashiyaNgcobo-lb2rq
4 ай бұрын
I ANC ihlangene no IEC iwantshontshe ngempela 🤞 amavoti e MK uyazi ayifuni kubalwe kabusha yini le eyisabayo uma imsulwa kade i ANC yawuqala lomkhuba ibivamile la e KZN ukuntshontsha amavoti e IFP ethi uma ekhala uMtwana wakwa Phindangene i IEC imchithe ihlangene ne ANC. Lokhu isikwenza kwi MK
@motshailanga7266
4 ай бұрын
Tribalism is not it
@brendangwira7998
4 ай бұрын
I love how these elections played out. Everyone will get a piece of the pie and the masses will be the winners. Land issue is very important, you cannot be South African and have no access to your land & Resources. This is a Continent problem and must be rectified but this should not be about demonising white people, there is enough for all colours. Immigration should positively impact the country Malema is onto something here because we need to interact and trade and exchange with other African countries and it should not be arduous task for someone to spend money in another country.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
4 ай бұрын
Just by mentioning the word land without it being followed by "rover" you have successfully demonised them according to their logic.
@sijisiji8100
4 ай бұрын
How could you call indigenous people 'colours'?
@Majozilukhozi
4 ай бұрын
😂
@Majozilukhozi
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@thandwasibisi4989
4 ай бұрын
Tribalism of gwede amasimba uyanya ugwede
@QinisoDlongolo
4 ай бұрын
"Tribalism, kade, kade yaba nonsense bo!
@mariahkamogelomoloisane6276
4 ай бұрын
4:15 TELL US WHAT WAS ZUMA DOING DURING THAT TIME
@mikecahill3989
4 ай бұрын
Liberation parties a Kuk at running countries!
@MarcCochrane
4 ай бұрын
I still think jacob Zuma is very old and should of retired years ago 🎉🎉🎉
@limpopoRiver
4 ай бұрын
Thats your opinion
@MLUNGISIMAHLANGU-nw8vg
4 ай бұрын
This analysis have not been telling the truth now you saying this guys please
@siyabongajacobdlamini1764
4 ай бұрын
Not this one, mngomezulu has never changed his thoughts on ANC.
@GeniusLila
4 ай бұрын
This analyst is openly anti Ramaphosa and openly Pro-Zuma
@siyabongandumo8921
4 ай бұрын
By telling the truth?
@Llllltgyh
4 ай бұрын
There is no anti and pro here. He is speaking facts. Why people don't like facts.
@nhlanhlamanatha8799
4 ай бұрын
Hai Dlakadla u favour Zuma too much u doing tht nakuKhozi FM Ku breakfast show u tribalism too I thought educated people are neutral same as Nhlanhla Mtaka was Tribalism Al his time kuKhozi FM niyafana nonke ,thou I'm MKP but I like fairnes
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
@@LlllltgyhWhat facts really?
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
@@siyabongandumo8921What is truth? And what is the truth there? Oh pathetic Tribalist, willing to take that route?
@Bld-skr
4 ай бұрын
ewe mhlalutyi factions ze ANC zizo ezibangele ukuzika kwayo
@meshcknwashe9101
4 ай бұрын
He will never resigned,just relax .6000000 voted for him to be president of the country
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
4 ай бұрын
Those number will not help the organisation nor his reputation
@juniormolefe3046
4 ай бұрын
Ramadollar is criminal conman 😂
@MartinThino
4 ай бұрын
Iskhathi sakhe se duzane manje abasenayo I majority e Parliament manje bye bye Ramaphosa!!
@Yoyo-e8c
4 ай бұрын
Phambili! SHAKA ZULU!!!!
@buzilemtetwa7488
4 ай бұрын
🎉, 😂you're the comedy break
@lancencube5205
4 ай бұрын
Ramaposa has never been a president.he grew up seing Zuma in front of people and people cheering he envied and wished to be like him.but unfortunately its not in him natural
@lesetlelaalexmmadi9045
4 ай бұрын
This time Verwoed will be happy because Tribalism have raised its ugly head in KZN and other provinces where Zulu nationalism is being nurished.
@limpopoRiver
4 ай бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@seatieltsiane
4 ай бұрын
He must Also be happy with Orania
@moremimatlhatsi2864
4 ай бұрын
Quiet interesting to listen to some politicians who are masquerading as analysts. Give me this Mngomezulu, Seepe or Breakfast. Under no circumstances will they ever talk abt the unknown and uncharacteristic way of the Anc whereby its ex president would insult and disrespect its elected leadership like how zuma and his daughter used to call media briefings aided by ppl from opposition parties. Zuma contributed much in the anc losing support. Mpofu and Jimmy were enjoying the damage that was done to the anc because it was helpful to the growth of their parties. Today the very same Zuma is leading a faction from the anc, calling it 😊 MKP but still regards himself as an ANC member just to cause more divisions within the ANC. Today everyone talks about Phalaphala, the money that no one can claim is money from our coffers but potrays those that are fingered in stealing from the coffers of the state. Maybe its time we treat any form of corruption in the same way.
@meshcknwashe9101
4 ай бұрын
This political analyst is bias.he didn't like Cyril since.i didn't hear him talking about Zuma corruption.every time he opens his mouth he criticizing Cyril from day one
@lindanilee7441
4 ай бұрын
I think you are 100% correct because the anc conference was bought it was not the will of the anc masses
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
4 ай бұрын
The mainstream media houses are doing the same when it comes to Ramadolar,no President has ever been protected by media like Ramadolar.When last you heard the reporting on Phalaphala,I swear if it was Zuma the news would be flying in the sky
@fikileagneslushaba
4 ай бұрын
Mbalula also must go to jail for his holidays to Dubai who paid for it we want to da money that was under your wife account whre it was coming from it was for what
@biko8229
4 ай бұрын
WMC must accept that RamaSofa is a failed project but DA seem to want to impose him on us, LOL
@sizwemngoma6004
4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
4 ай бұрын
He seemed to be working so well or did we fall for our own media propaganda?😂
@biko8229
4 ай бұрын
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 😂😂🤣I'm convinced you guys fell for the media propaganda. All of sudden those that claimed he had very high approval ratings are nowhere to be found. Some of us believe the ANC of RamaSofa lost by an even bigger margin than what IEC is showing us.
@user-1gugu6325
4 ай бұрын
So far he's the only one who reached 5+million votes... those are voters who voted for him not WMC not DA.
@biko8229
4 ай бұрын
@@user-1gugu6325 From close to 11 million votes 5 years ago to just over 6 million this year😂😂🤣It is very difficult to defend the man without sounding clueless about politics. The man and his policies of privatisation and austerity has been rejected by many people of SA. Let ANC continue with him and you'll see what the people will do to the ANC in 2026
@PietGrobler-dt1ce
4 ай бұрын
Definite tribalism in KZN - MK only got significant numbers of votes where there are significant numbers of Zulus.. Original problems started by Zuma and continued by Cyril not sorting and rooting out corruption, both in the public and private sector.
@twentyfifty2050
4 ай бұрын
What about Mpumalanga where they got 17%?? Stop it with this stupid narrative and marginalizing our tribe!
@NomthandazoKamana
4 ай бұрын
Zange sibonento kuzuma sabona ukudliwa kwemali
@SbusisoNgubane-xq7xx
4 ай бұрын
And Ramadolar showed you flames
@mantombimkhwebane335
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa should be ashamed of the under his rule whilst entertaining Gaza matters.
@niksterz0722
4 ай бұрын
Cyril Ramapoes
@SS-xt4kh
4 ай бұрын
King zuma got his votes from his tribal subjects. They can deny all they like, but facts will remain. There are many reasons to punish the anc, but zuma is not and will not be a solution
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
4 ай бұрын
Unfortunately many people don't disagree.
@sbukeli
4 ай бұрын
Western Cape used to belong to the ANC too and they lost it to the DA. When people are no longer happy, they can choose to vote a different party. The EC keeps voting ANC but they are on the cutting edge every other week for poor service delivery. Maybe that's loyalty to uTata which could also be classified as Tribalism if we are using your nonsensical narrative but it's not serving them.
@SS-xt4kh
4 ай бұрын
@sbukeli Mandela did not form the ANC. He is one of its many leaders. If EC people were tribalist, they would have stopped voting for the ANC when zuma took over from Mbeki, but they did not. They seem to be voting ANC based on political ideology, not on it's capability to deliver services. Hence, they continue voting for it even when an ANC president is not isiXhosa speaking. ANC won 5 of the 9 provices with an outright majority and got the highest number of votes in 7 of the 9. That should tell you ANC is not an EC party. I don't know why you would single out EC people. Zuma got votes in areas where there is a significant representation of Zulu speaking people. Kzn,Gauteng, and Mpumalanga. Any sensible person can see that. People can vote any party they choose. Hopefully, not to allow themselves to be taken advantage of by a person who had more than 20 years in government and chose to prioritize himself and his friends.
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
@@SS-xt4khI couldn't have said it better!
@Point-taken
4 ай бұрын
@@sbukeliNonsensical Narrative, really? You just won't think or what? Cry if you want to
@troy1709-h5f
4 ай бұрын
Ramaphosa did his utmost best to reconcile the obnoxious Zulu faction with the rest of the ANC! But Zulu tribalism was too strong! Zuma instigated the tribal conflict and destroyed the ANC ... not Ramaphosa!
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