I was disappointed that the video didn’t actually explain how the hybrid system works at all. It just shows how the info is displayed and otherwise was just a car review.
@Alan-lv9rw
Ай бұрын
The first Canadian video I’ve seen without snow.
@TheKingkingg
9 ай бұрын
Very good review unlike many that only car about numbers. Would be nice for other products with higher output like for rdx, Ridgeline, etc...I did 7.5 l/100km in my 2020 2.0T Accord and do as good as 5.0L/100km in my 2023 Integra Elite a spec manual on highway trips, normal driving 8.9L/100km best on highway, but a little fun to lots of fun...10.5 to 22L/100km on highway
@CookyCutter
2 ай бұрын
I'm curious because my commute is roughly 20 miles each way to work. Half going County Road speed and half going highway speed I have almost no driving at lower speed limits. I wonder if it would be worth it with all the extra components that will have wear and tear on them and potentially need repair down the road. Unfortunately to get a nice trim level with options you have to buy a hybrid with the new accord.
@jeffjo8732
2 ай бұрын
You need to stop imagining what might go wrong. There is no alternator, no starter motor, and NO TRANSMISSION. And no drive belt (components that would be on it are electric). There are no "all the extra components that will have wear." Even the clutch is only engaged when the rpm are perfectly matched by computer.
@oldkid6
15 күн бұрын
Best part, apart from the great gas mileage is that it doesn't have any auto engine on/off that nobody likes or wants in any car.
@geraldaugustus739
2 ай бұрын
The average driver in this car will get their value back in gas savings for sure (especially with the estimates using a *steady* gas price of $1.50/L for the next 5-10 years😅) - but more importantly, it cuts your emissions nearly in half. That's a LOT of CO2 not going into the air!
@JustinPritchard
Ай бұрын
I mean, the fuel price calculations are just for for ball parking purposes to help viewers visualize. But I wonder if there's a better way to forecast future prices more accurately
@geraldaugustus739
Ай бұрын
@@JustinPritchard hard to say, with the fall of civilization just around the corner!
@geraldaugustus739
Ай бұрын
@@JustinPritchard honestly, for your purposes I had no problem with you just picking an average, not really a better way to do it. AND, it's likely to go up. and up. and up.
@hldvoyeur4709
Ай бұрын
All this is nothing but a pitiful junk comparing to the old Accords with their magnificent V6 engines. I am looking for a new car but it surely not going to be an Accord with this puny 2.0 liter engine. No, sir. It's gonna be another V6.
@kenromaine2387
4 ай бұрын
Wife just purchased a 2024 Honda CRV Touring Sport Hybrid last month. This is our third Honda hybrid (2006 Civic hybrid - 2010 Insight hybrid). The 2024 CRV Hybrid is getting up 42-45 MPG city and 39-40 MPG at highway speeds. We love this CRV, good job Honda. ( Like your video... )
@dannybryant6873
3 ай бұрын
If your vehicle has GDI without port injection carbon fouling of the backs of the intake valves might be a concern.
@fivish
Ай бұрын
He could have said that the engine runs the generator which charges the battery which drives the traction motor. At higher road speed a clutch engages which connects the engine directly to the wheels. Basically a two speed gearbox. At high speed, fuel economy is poor. Toyota does it much much better with excelent fuel economy at high speed.
@laz7354
3 ай бұрын
With the 2.0T and it's amazing 10-speed transmission, the Accord Hybrid EX-L is the one to get at 53mpg and NO turbo and NO CVT transmission.
@DJ.1001
9 күн бұрын
What do you think the "T" means in 2.0T?
@jeffjo8732
3 ай бұрын
Nitpick: There is no such thing as a hybrid engine. It has an Atkinson engine connected to a hybrid transmission. And underlying that nitpick is another, almost universal mistake. Never compare the engine to an electric motor-generator. The MG doesn't *_make_* power like an engine does, it converts the electrical power made by a battery or generator, from electrical power to mechanical power. So the MGs are more properly part of a hybrid's transmission, than something that compares to an engine. But while you gave a very good explanation of the hybrid system, I like mine better. Numbers below will reflect the 2018-2022 version, but they didn't change much. Most of the time, this is an EV. Not a *_Battery_* EV, like a Tesla, but a *_Battery_* *_and_* _Generator*_ EV. It is more properly called a serial hybrid. The disadvantage of a serial hybrid is that it has to convert power twice between electrical and mechanical. The losses in that process are its "transmission losses." But in fact, this transmission can be more efficient than a CVT. Still, when needs are fairly constant - highway cruising - it changes to a parallel hybrid with essentially no transmission losses at all. The way a serial hybrid helps with fuel economy, is seen in that green-and-blue power display. That Atkinson engine is most efficient at 2000 rpm and 88.5 lb-ft of torque, which is about 34 HP. It is 40.6% efficient at this point on the torque curve. Now, the engine in a non-hybrid has to produce the exact amount of power needed by the car. At 55 mph on a flat road in this car, that is about 15 HP. With it best rpm at 15 HP, this engine is only about 37% efficient. (A larger, or non-Atkinson, engine would be less efficient at 15 HP.) So what the serial hybrid will do - as you describe - is run the engine at 34 HP as often as it can, and use that extra 19 HP to self-charge the battery. Then, at a later time it will use that charge either for acceleration, or in EV drive. As a parallel hybrid, between about 40 and 80 mph, it will vary rpm (rpm=mph*37) but still keep efficiency above 40%. And the traction motor will use any extra power to self-charge, instead of the generator. Two more nitpicks: it uses engine drive only in low-power situations. So ma wheel power is determined by that 181 HP motor. But remember, a motor is a transmission, not a power plant. In order to get 181 HP to the wheels, a conventional gas car has to make 212 HP (www.motortrend.com/how-to/modp-1005-drivetrain-power-loss/). And yes, that is where Honda's older hybrids go their "rated" power. And, there is one other situation where the generator will act as a motor. If the battery ever becomes full while using regenerative braking down a long hill, you will lose regen if you don't find another place to dump energy. In this situation, the generator will be used to spin the engine for "engine braking." That surprises some people, when the engine seems to come on while braking downhill.
@JustinPritchard
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. Fantastic deep dive, and proof that you're definitely not in the target audience I have in mind for this video. Yes, I'm definitely taking some liberties with the nomenclature to make sure that every one of my friends and family understands what I'm talking about in simple terms. I'm going to read your comments several more times to understand fully. Cheers
@AlrienJ
Ай бұрын
@@JustinPritchardI like how you showed the powerflow time-lapse and the video is well produced so good job on that, but the problem is that you didn't actually explain the operating principles of Honda's hybrid system, just a general explanation of how its put together, the rest was very vague. You don't need to go as deep as this commenter went but a general explanation of how the hybrid system mechanically delivers power and how it behaves in different situations. I think anyone clicking a video called "how does x work" would appreciate that
@zarc0n
5 ай бұрын
I just got my Accord Hybrid Sport with the more basic trim inside and in the concrete grey. Loving it so far. The hybrid system saves plenty of gas!😎
@fredm4315
24 күн бұрын
Good video. However, the annual cost comparison needs to include the cost of replacing the hybrids main batterry every 6 to 10 years which virtually negates any cost advantage.
@JustinPritchard
24 күн бұрын
Thanks, just remember, that battery is under warranty for 8 years.
@billfrost6968
5 ай бұрын
My wife and I love the gas mileage we are getting with our 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring car. In town we are getting 40MPG commuting. We drove from Atlanta to Spruce Pine, NC which is around 180 miles one way. About 2/3 mountainous highway driving. With the adaptive cruise control set at 85MPH in Economy Mode we got 45MPG. Due to traffic we rarely did more than 75. I was very surprised to observe the car in EV mode numerous times when we were going up a long grade. Getting that kind of gas mileage from such a large, comfortable, feature laden car is awesome! To top it can accelerate almost as fast as my old turbo charged Accord Touring car.
@matty1053
4 ай бұрын
To note... Going above 75mph will kill your MPG. Tested my self... Kept it 74mph and I get 2mph better than at 75. Same road, full tank of gas both ways. 30 mile drive.
@fivish
Ай бұрын
My Lexus UX hybrid gets 53 MPG average and even more on the motorway.
@ScottSmiley-fn4fo
15 күн бұрын
Thank you! I'm considering a EX-L hybrid, looks great!
@JustinPritchard
13 күн бұрын
Good choice!
@donaldotsig6818
Ай бұрын
Is this cvt trasmission like the toyota synergy drive system that has NO belts or chains and is completly gear and planetary gear driven thanks
@fivish
Ай бұрын
NO! It has a two speed gearbox and just motor to battery to motor configuration. Its like a diesel electric train but with lock up at high speed.
@CageyLeigh
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I’m disappointed in this video. As another reader stated, doesn’t really explain how the hybrid system actually works. Moreover, he states that the system continually discharges and recharges the batteries constantly. How? Are the same cells being used, then recharged, then charged again? Does Honda have some mechanism that ensures that the battery cell usage is evenly distributed, so that all cells get used, then recharged in some linear fashion? P.S., I have the 2023 Accord Touring, and the phone charger is absolutely u-s-e-l-e-s-s. The phone placement is so touchy that it won’t charge for more than a few seconds before some insignificant movement stops the charging. What a waste of a feature.
@JustinPritchard
Ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback, I actually just watched this video again for about the 10th time, and since you and another viewer have picked up on it, let me offer some thoughts. I think ultimately a better title might have been 'Here's what it does' not 'here's how it works' Though some of you are seeking a more detailed technical explanation which I didn't dive into in this video, I'm still proud of the research put into this video, and the fact that it's been one of my highest performing and most watched in recent years. Appreciate the feedback nonetheless, it does definitely help shape future videos to be even better. Cheers from North Ontario
@CageyLeigh
Ай бұрын
@@JustinPritchard well, look at it as an opportunity. Clearly, readers would like more info on how it actually works. Maybe it’s time for another video. I’d certainly watch it. Thanks. 😄
@chrispritchard1035
9 ай бұрын
Well done Justin! Great math review on the finals cost comparison for the life of the car! Very worthwhile in my mind!👍🏼👍🏼
@dannybryant6873
3 ай бұрын
Modern hybrids (Honda Toyota Ford for sure) give you most of electric car goodness without the electric car drawbacks. Also they don't have turbos, sleazy mechanical belt or chain CVTs, 11 speed torque converter automatic, torque converter, start/stop systems, 12 Volt starter, etc. Many advantages of the electric cars with gasoline assist (hybrids).
@zarc0n
5 ай бұрын
Damn... "Canada roads" is not a myth😮
@TranTek
4 ай бұрын
Honda should up the capacity of batteries from 1.1 kw/h to at least 10 kw/h the euro PHeV has a 17.7 kw/h batteries
@bryb2644
3 ай бұрын
A plug-in is expected to drive for a pretty long distance in ev only, that’s why the Phev has a larger battery.
@lionhart7444
2 ай бұрын
Hybrid battery honda accord 😮😮price
@isaacshacky17
Ай бұрын
Whats the life expectancy on those batteries i know they gotta be super expensive to replace thus counter productive on the savings you actually make on fuel
@JustinPritchard
Ай бұрын
Minimum 8-year warranty regardless, there are plenty of examples of hybrids like this, even with earlier battery technology, lasting well beyond that. Most hybrid owners never change their batteries.
@christiancastillo618
24 күн бұрын
I have 100,000 mile warranty, which I’ll have another vehicle by then
@richardguse3410
9 ай бұрын
Appreciate the fuel math, however, any hybrid is more complicated and I wonder about long term reliability. I buy my vehicles and keep them 10 years minimum. Having said that, I'm 77 y/o and 6"3". A lot of cars and SUV don't give me any comfort or elbow room. last time I bought was 5 years ago... a 2018 Z71 Tahoe.
@Boomarov
5 ай бұрын
From what I’ve heard, these cars are VERY reliable. I just bought a ‘24 and it’s been fabulous so far
@wildonion99
4 ай бұрын
As of around 2018 hybrids actually surpassed non-hybrids in terms of reliability. There are at least two reasons for this. On one hand most hybrids (but not all!) either do not have a transmission as we know it, or in Toyota/Ford's case, they use an extremely simple planetary gear set. (This is labeled as an eCVT, which is a bad label because it confuses people with the belt/chain-driven traditional CVT's found in non-hybrids) The other reason is because of the stricter emissions and fuel economy requirements each year, non-hybrids have to keep growing more and more complicated to meet these requirements. Hybrids largely do not, as most already meet the requirements for as far out as 2035 in some locations. For example most hybrids do not have direct injection, or at least do not have it alone. And of course most do not have a turbo or supercharger to worry about.
@Alan-lv9rw
Ай бұрын
Great explanation!
@Capybara0726
4 ай бұрын
A+ music choice @5:25
@JustinPritchard
4 ай бұрын
Love that tune!
@RED89P13
5 ай бұрын
*you mentioned this right after the point where I paused to write this comment 😂* Correct me if I’m wrong but I’ve heard under 60mph or light enough load the car acts like a diesel electric train. The gas engine noises you hear is only the engine directly turning the electric regen motor to supply electricity for the electric drive motor.
@ltdasilva93
4 ай бұрын
I own one (the sport hybrid) and the engine is barely audible the majority of the time. (High or low speeds) I will say you do feel a slight engagement when the high gear clutch kicks in but its no big deal.
@carmendelgado8768
3 ай бұрын
My honda accord would not start, I have 940 miles, yes you read that right 940 miles. The system would not read the hey fob and it is currently being serviced for an “electrical problem”. Anyone else experience this?
@zarc0n
5 ай бұрын
Wait... gas is 1.50 Canadian up there???😮
@ltdasilva93
4 ай бұрын
1.50 a liter ya. 1.65 now ;-;
@wildonion99
4 ай бұрын
It is sold per liter, so for rough math multiple that by four.
@JustinPritchard
Ай бұрын
1.65 a litre in Sudbury this afternoon!
@Janrambo-my7rl
5 ай бұрын
I'm really let down by the appearance of the new Accord. It appears larger, less attractive, and lacks the sleek style of the 2021 model. I was anticipating something even more impressive this year, but instead, it seems like they've opted for a bulky, unappealing design reminiscent of a cheap plastic soap holder I am extremely disappointed...!
@JustinPritchard
Ай бұрын
I definitely think this is my least favorite looking generation to date, which is a shame because it drives so well.
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