Speed and reflex needs to be standardised. So below 1 inch = 5 and within 5fps of ibo = 5 or something. Elite got a 1 for reflex and had the same measurement. Also speed was inside 10fps on the elite and got the same score as this which is outside 10fps.
@hawkenswanstrom2916
10 ай бұрын
Agreed, maybe in a future video he can just show him comparing all the scores and changing all the stuff he needs to adjust
@laserbeam-fx9qv
10 ай бұрын
I agree... Speed within 5 fps of advertised they get 5 points. Within 8 fps 4 points. Within 12 fps 3 points. Within 16 fps 2 points. Lastly anything over 16 fps 1 point.
@D_Jacob
10 ай бұрын
Outstanding bow! Thankful for your consistent, non biased reviews. Keep spreading the archery knowledge!
@briansteele1378
10 ай бұрын
Your bow reviews are always top notch, keep it up!
@papaschuette
10 ай бұрын
Hey Brother. To be completely honest, that is the first Hoyt that I actually like the look of. It's a little longer than I normally shoot, but that's something I could adjust to. Thanks for including this one into your test.
@GarrettOutdoors
10 ай бұрын
The caged riser looks like an elite. Nice looking bow with great features. Just wish that they would add self tuning options.
@TYB439
Ай бұрын
I ordered one of these (Wilderness) a week ago. looking forward to the arrival.
@jromem7313
10 ай бұрын
Been loving the reviews! They make these bows now days with 0 tolerance precision. I love how you say they are off using a wooden measuring stick that only measures in 1/8s lol. Just giving you some shit keep up the good videos
@VCOperationsJonMount
10 ай бұрын
I'd love it if you measured string angle in your bow reviews. Everything else is top notch!
@SuperKnicholson
10 ай бұрын
I would love to see you do a review on some APA bows. I have heard you mention them before and I would love to hear what your opinion is on the new black Mamba pro and king cobra DG.
@takuroshinji2445
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for everything you do josh, we know you have little time but you're changing archery for the better.
@Raised-Right
9 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your honest reviews on bows. Its helpful in helping me narrow down new bows for when i make my upgrade this off season. Thanks again.
@G-dz5sw
10 ай бұрын
Hoyt in his top 3 brands I bet lol! $$$:) Also he stated elite was not popular out west awhile back….and because they’re built on east coast. “I live in Midwest and hunt the Rockies and elite pretty popular!” Hey I loved the Ethos! Actually enough I ordered one in slate grey! Thought it was impressive! Wonder how the ethos cycle would be with smooth mods compared to this cycle??? 🤔 interesting! Maybe all these bow testers should should blindfolded for the shots and have someone else measure specs and speeds then after the test see what bows win with the highest rating and personal feel;) But hey opinions are like assholes everyone’s got one right!
@jimputnam7539
10 ай бұрын
This makes me want to go try this Hoyt and sell my VXR28!
@brandonneff3432
10 ай бұрын
Did you shoot that bow on75,80 or 85% let off because those speeds could be altered the only reason I’m asking that is because the Matthews that you tested got a five on speed but was also well under the publish speed
@kevinbaretich1762
10 ай бұрын
I still like my Carbon spider, 510 grain arrow at 292 fps and very accurate.
@werewolfarchery8424
10 ай бұрын
i think someone already mentioned it... but when you said you wished the wall was harder, did you try the other setting on the draw stop? Getting rid of the e-clips was a great thing IMO. Hated those things. Thanks for the review!
@siraultman7631
10 ай бұрын
LOL " little longer", they are not measuring with a .99 yard stick man. It's measured from the machining program on the cnc hole to hole.
@joshmorris8510
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for all the break downs of the bows. Great videos!
@gordonneverdies
4 ай бұрын
That vibration test was cool.
@ChrisHice
9 ай бұрын
just set one up...think I made a good choice for my next hunt. thanks for the review. CH
@Thedudeabides803
10 ай бұрын
When you draw back I see there’s a bar hitting your wrist. That would definitely be an issue with all the gear I’ve had to wear in the cold temps this season. That design just seems like a huge flaw if you are hunting with layers on.
@neilbolan8768
10 ай бұрын
Great review!!! Really diggin the DIY vids too!! Cheers
@JakeCannon-j4r
10 ай бұрын
This might possibly be my next bow. Sweet
@joshuafreysinger384
10 ай бұрын
Would you say you liked the vtm better than the alpha or vice versa?
@gauge1223
10 ай бұрын
Sheeesh what a beautiful bow
@elkchaser
10 ай бұрын
Looks like the prices on the 24 bows are higher on their website than what they told you they’d be…by a couple hundred in some cases. Also, have you tried the back wall adjustment setting for a harder feel? If not, probably not right to ding them on that.
@KC24Ball
10 ай бұрын
Always like your bow reviews. Looks like another bad ass Hoyt 🤙
@ruebendelvecchio811
10 ай бұрын
@PodiumArcher best reviews on KZitem. Might you Please re-review this bow with your current testing and evaluation/scoring system. Would love to see what this bow does at 30 inch draw with the various arrow weights you now use. Keep up the awesome content. 🥇
@speedway440
10 ай бұрын
I wonder if twisting the strings and cables a bit and getting the Axle to axle in spec would pre-load the limbs a bit and pick up a few fps speed?
@bengullickson4696
10 ай бұрын
The timing on these videos is perfect
@robertmiller6822
10 ай бұрын
I just ordered one in tombstone, they look awesome, damn I gotta stop buying bows I only bought my mach 34 about 3 months ago the a elite verdict 2 months before that. Gonna have to sell some bows.
@jamesjgill
10 ай бұрын
Good review. Perhaps Hoyt should send you a t shirt.
@travisalderete5386
10 ай бұрын
Great performance on the top of shorter mod but its been like that its nice they are making mods for more people, but lets be honest its time to step up the adjustability and tune ability. Definitely a bow that would be just as easy at 80lbs but might not be worth the fps. Great repeatable shooter but so is the 34 or 33 from the past. Hard to justify a new bow with previous offerings being on sale and neck and neck in the lineup. Just glad everyone is up for the competition and pushing in the right direction every year! Nice that nobody is resting on their past laurels. Hard to find a bad offering anymore! Thank you for your thorough reviews they are worth watching over and over.
@robgodfrey699
5 ай бұрын
"Great performance on the top of shorter mod" Can you explain what you mean by this? I'm considering buying the 27-29 mod on a 33. How is the performance different than other mods? I have a 27.5 draw but I'll likely set up at 27-3/4 as my nitrum at 27.5 feels a whisker short. Thanks.
@travisalderete5386
5 ай бұрын
@@robgodfrey699 the mods are in incremental adjustments. 27-29 for instance will give you better performance at 29. Same can be said for 29-31. The top of each mod usually gains a little as it is at the peak of the draw cycle and at a longer draw length as well, probably doesn’t hurt. If your peak draw is at 27.5 a mod at 28 (if available) adjusted slightly would still yield a better draw cycle (possibly) and better performance. For example I shoot a mod that peaks at 30 so I cant get the maximum benefit at my 29.5 draw but if I had a mod that peaked at 29.5 it would perform better at the top of that mod for me. Hope I didn’t make that more confusing. Cheers, and good luck.
@robgodfrey699
5 ай бұрын
@@travisalderete5386 That makes sense. Thanks
@robgodfrey699
5 ай бұрын
@@travisalderete5386 Is the only improvement fps?
@travisalderete5386
5 ай бұрын
@@robgodfrey699 depends on the bow, draw weight, etc but yeah usually gain a little fps at the higher end of any mods from Hoyts newer offerings.
@Scoopster
10 ай бұрын
If you don’t have a bow press for past parallel limbs and don’t live near a pro shop you are better off with a Bowtech or Elite for tuning…
@rudyjones1139
8 ай бұрын
Why is it slower 30 inches? Thought it would be faster the longer the draw.
@scottbowen4997
8 ай бұрын
I am confused on this also. Thanks
@joshuawooledge6945
2 ай бұрын
Bottom of the mod. 29" is the top of the #2 mod.
@justinroethel7424
10 ай бұрын
I’m not a Hoyt guy never will be but I’m impressed
@aaronhall765
10 ай бұрын
Thank goodness we got confirmation on the giveaways. So have the odds decreased? 1 in 25? How many signed up?
@jasonard7227
10 ай бұрын
I have been asking about it on the podcast and tims as well for a while now
@dirtjunkie2749
10 ай бұрын
I'll be surprised if the Giveaways ever happen.
@veteranswithoutbenifitsgui9738
10 ай бұрын
That was the best motivation to buy a Bowtech Core SR, I have seen so far. Thanks.
@tonyviers-de9qi
10 ай бұрын
So far for me it’s between core sr and elite ethos
@saw6f4
10 ай бұрын
@tonyviers-de9qi same im due for an upgrade and want something in the 33 or 34" ata range. Too many choices. And being lefty makes it hard to even shoot them because most bow shops dont stock them
@Thedudeabides803
10 ай бұрын
@@saw6f4I can’t ever find a shop with lefty bows when I am searching . So as lefties we are a minority and need to gather against the oppression of the right handed and demand equality. This discrimination must end.😂
@stevie9361
10 ай бұрын
Think matthews new hunting bows will look like the title. I don't think they will do carbon this year
@thetintwizardsllc3128
7 күн бұрын
Are you going to get the spacer in stock on your website for the cams
@tommurph4496
10 ай бұрын
So the vibration tester, do you think that what you may be reading is the vibration from drawing the bow? If so, maybe you could use an assistant to reset the meter after you draw the bow, before the shot. Great reviews nonetheless!
@davelebo6412
10 ай бұрын
I was really hoping the new cams would work on RX7s. Not a chance. I like the idea of not dumping speed by going to 30.5. Can’t be that lucky
@vgacbtp
4 ай бұрын
Great bow. Do you think its better the X 30 for shorter shooters?
@Gerry-w7q
6 күн бұрын
Hello Lucas my name is Gerry Houston what is your all around bow that you use. I don't have many options where I live in Pennsylvania. One dealer close to me has Hoyt,Mathews,and Bowtech. And a couple elite dealers . No prime dealers I know of. I'm a short guy at 5'7 230 pounds I'm looking to buy a new bow Im looking between Hoyt and Elite
@tommydube6874
8 ай бұрын
I really like your videos good job. Alpha x33 or bowtech sx80?
@petermorphett
10 ай бұрын
whats the cam lean at full draw look like, toe rag...?
@wingman327
10 ай бұрын
Way better camera focus up close! A little too much movement though.... maybe put some podium stabilizers on it. 😂
@braydencooney
10 ай бұрын
Why not try the different back wall settings?
@tonyviers-de9qi
9 ай бұрын
As far as the extra machining…. Great , but what did it accomplish?
@barryfrank1868
10 ай бұрын
Nice Mathews shirt 😂
@charltonlwalker
9 ай бұрын
Great review
@parkerlipetzky
10 ай бұрын
Isn't there 2 different settings for the backwall?
@josephporfido2433
10 ай бұрын
Yes, h is hard back wall and hx is softer
@jimrice4699
6 ай бұрын
I thought HX was harder, not softer@@josephporfido2433
@strippindragfishingtv9685
9 ай бұрын
Shooting a 300 VAP TKO elite arrow. 28.5” DL right at 70 pounds. What set up with outserts, collars ETC should I run up front for the best penetration I could get out of that arrow?
@saw6f4
10 ай бұрын
The msrp should be $1449 according to their website
@michaelrosa5410
10 ай бұрын
Bowtech Fanboy checking out a Hoyt. It certainly will have his bias, but as far as biased reviews go, MFJJ is pretty good. He already did a "homer review" on the Bowtech's. So let's see him flame the Hoyt and compare that to his love for the Bowtech to get a real idea what is here. Well MFJJ was pretty good. Flamed the snot out of Hoyt for the old archaic shim system ? Just because everyone is doing it,doesn't mean you have to. But I agree, something like PSE has would rock. The drop in speed is very unHoyt like. Was it rest related or just slow ? Hoyt used to post over IBO ratings not long ago. Me thinks the Dennis Richard, Exact D/L ,I think it is his ?,,,appears to maybe slow the cam rotation a bit, but that should be taken into consideration before posting IBO speeds. My only objection to most of all this is how can you shoot a bow test without making sure the bow is timed and paper tuned ? We know timing results in more or less vibration. We know arrow paper can impact speed too going thru a Chrono. FMJJ, take the next step and drawboard the cams and paper tune the bow. This bow has settings to adjust the string stop to firmer or looser which I didn't hear mentioned ? Also the exact D/L as well as 3 let off settings 75,80,85. Does speed vary there ? Might be why it's off a bit on speed ? Let's see the bow @ 75% let off. All in all from a Bowtech Fan Boy you were pretty good over all. Bowtech you would go higher and on other brands you go lower on various aspects. Hoyt say this grip is their best ever ??? lol The riser looked vey much Bowtech, and Hoyt purportedly has corrected the shelf to allow room for a full window.
@catlin-vn1sh
8 ай бұрын
Is that a sea hawks flag I see behind the white board? 👍
@justinwilks3431
10 ай бұрын
Sweet. Finally
@josephr1198
10 ай бұрын
Disappointing release. 1/4" length adjustment is nice.
@jamesashley3827
10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@joshblevins246
10 ай бұрын
Are they offered in all of the Hoyt colors
@matthewvandevalk3008
Ай бұрын
Plastic or aluminum limb pockets
@ThePoohbear348
10 ай бұрын
Good nightJohn where are you located?
@jpkstar04
10 ай бұрын
If you decide to give one of these bad boys away 🎉 let me know I'll fly up to do a build with one of the best in the business just saying
@rockyreynolds4027
10 ай бұрын
Any new target bows from Hoyt?
@Angel.Custodio
10 ай бұрын
How the draw cycle compared to Bowtech SR?
@Anchor7
22 күн бұрын
whats the name of the color?
@tjblackforest69
8 ай бұрын
29" draw is faster indeed.
@scottbowen4997
8 ай бұрын
Why is that?
@tjblackforest69
8 ай бұрын
@@scottbowen4997 cuz the setting is on the maximum draw length of that module.
@blessedvetoutdoors
10 ай бұрын
JJ could you get someone who had a short draw length shoot the 26 to 27 in mod with a chrono test?!?!?! Please Sir JJ
@halfstep67
10 ай бұрын
No need to chrono every draw length. Just subtract 10 FPS per inch and you will be very close.
@tonyviers-de9qi
10 ай бұрын
I think you were generous on features
@Sneakyjoe69
10 ай бұрын
Lol Mathews bow videos on your Chanel have 50 and 70 thousand views
@KingRobertTaylor
10 ай бұрын
First!
@kylebailey8498
10 ай бұрын
Who the heck does a giveaway a year later on a one year old bow
@stevie9361
10 ай бұрын
There is awful high pitch buzz in your vids now
@ryanhickenbottom9540
10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mfer
@zaynemikita6897
6 ай бұрын
Tell me you're biased without telling me you're biased
@TheChattanoogaBandit
7 ай бұрын
Hoyt never seems to amaze me at how ugly they can make a compound bow
@colety04
6 ай бұрын
💀
@yesmynameisbilly
10 ай бұрын
Fire your camera man, seriously. Stopped the video after 1:45 due to nausea. It looks like a child was filming with a flip phone. Otherwise I enjoy your opinions and content.
@michaelwilson3165
10 ай бұрын
Looks a bit like bowtech
@GreatWhiteStud
10 ай бұрын
Looks like a elite..
@bearhug72
8 ай бұрын
Hey look...the riser design Hoyt stole from Martin
@XXXston3wallXXX
10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@GreatWhiteStud
10 ай бұрын
When bows cost more then AR15 then bows are way over priced. Only difference in this and last year bow cam adjustment. Very disappointing
Пікірлер: 106