Reading some of the comments on this and other such videos, RE have done us all a serious disservice by failing to produce a 130 HP ultra-lightweight V6 grand tourer for under £6k. Where are the Brembos and the Ohlins? What the hell were they thinking? Good job they made it good looking and fun to ride or I wouldn't have bought one. Great review though. Keep up the good work.
@pedropaulo7922
3 ай бұрын
😂
@jimmyjam8795
3 ай бұрын
There's always someone to criticize others for having a different point of view......... and then trying to get others to align with their subjective view point. I'm disappointed that this bike didn't work for me as I Iove single cylinder low power bikes, but I just didn't enjoy riding it. Shotgun suits my laid back riding style better.
@rishangmishra7528
3 ай бұрын
Love it 😂😂
@starseeddeluxe
3 ай бұрын
@@jimmyjam8795 Why didn't you like the bike? Was it the horrendous short gearing? One thing that has stopped me from buying any of the new bikes in 2024, is the lack of an overdrive on all motorcycles. I want to buy something that I can keep for the rest of my life, and I don't want an engine that is screaming 30% more RPM's than necessary.
@davidbesant
2 күн бұрын
@@starseeddeluxeThe engine runs at the revs it's designed for. Power is torque x rpm. If you want the power at lower rpm, then your going to need a bigger engine. BTW running at the design rpm will not harm the engine as much as lugging it in an higher gear, so would advise against sprocket changes.
@brucecurtis6281
3 ай бұрын
If you took the centre stand, crash bars, rear rack and one of the front mudguards off that might remove most of the 20 kg, bit all of them are exactly what you would have to add to most of the competition as extras, at extra cost, so,at least the RE is being honest about the weight. I ride a 94 660 tenere, near identical weight, height, and HP, and it’s perfect for me, so a RE 450 sounds like the revival of the old original adv market, the klr650, bmw funduro, and the xt500/600, before the crazy heavy and overpowered super adventure overlanders were launched, and the monster enduro of husky and ktm. You need 40+ HP to reach 80mph You don’t need 80+ HP off road, at twice the price.
@andik.4235
Ай бұрын
I agree and can add, that compared to my old BMW F 650 the 450 Himalayan is a way better motorcycle with much better suspension, ABS brakes, nicer fueling and better fuel economy. And this thing is quick enough.
@barryhughes1612
3 ай бұрын
A good review as always, I took delivery of mine on the 1st June and loving it, I live in Somerset so I have done a bit of green laning and it is easy to live with, once on the move the lardy weight disappears.
@detch5307
2 ай бұрын
Very nice review. I'm becoming more and more interested in this bike...especially having a tubeless option...and a center stand.
@janalmkvist8177
3 ай бұрын
Very good review. The first review I have seen that mention the very low first gear compared to the second gear. Not necessarily a bad thing since it makes low speed handling easier with the rather poor low end grunt.
@teneretraveller8980
3 ай бұрын
Spot on. Test rode one a few days ago, and the lack of screen means your touring speed is limited, and over the course of a few days on tour would keave me tired. But. Other than that and heated grips it's good to go. No more additional expense. Soft luggage and that's it. Really liked it. Ride safe 👍
@yahoodlums
3 ай бұрын
How about the weight? Did it feel very heavy?
@teneretraveller8980
3 ай бұрын
@@yahoodlums to be honest, not really, no. Perhaps because I normally ride slightly heavier bikes. If you were moving up from a crf300 it might be noticeable though, I suppose. I thought light and frisky. Ride safe 👍
@markellott5620
2 ай бұрын
They do a larger screen. I'll see how I feel once I've got mine before making a decision on that one. I've gone touring on an FTR with the OEM touring screen, which is pretty small, so It might not be an issue for me.
@magaudion
3 ай бұрын
Great review . Get my tubeless Hanle Black next month. Got some TKC70s to go on the bike from the off . Good choice of boots ! Recently bought some Stylmartin Vertigo WP. Not sure about the LBGT gloves though 😜
@davidz8
3 ай бұрын
It is a nice looking bike, it's great to see all these smaller adventure bikes coming out, not everyone wants a GS1300. Will you be at the ABR this year?
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
I will be David, the Africa Twin is on the SW-Motech stand again.
@chrischart
3 ай бұрын
Picked mine up at the weekend - love it so far. Traded in a 17 plate Forty Eight - quite the difference 😂
@timothybrockbank7474
3 ай бұрын
Looks a good machine just need RE to iron out any initial problems will have to take a look at one
@VLK-73
Ай бұрын
I have a suggestion about shaving off the weight: Sell the crash bars, center stand and the rear rack and shave off those 20 lbs. Then buy them back as extras and put them back on....problem solved. You will no longer complain about the weight, as it is now self induced in the form of "add-ons", just like everyone else is doing....except RE gave them to you for free from the get go.
@andyrussell2873
3 ай бұрын
Nice review Tony straight to the point thanks.
@peterhobbs7609
2 ай бұрын
Great review Tony, stick some panniers and a roll bag on that, and take off across Europe, I’m sure it would do the trick with ease
@meinekleineweltreise
2 ай бұрын
I had the chance to test ride this bike at the „SW-Motech open house“ right after I had tested the Suzuki 800DE and i absolutely enjoyed it. I even enjoyed the RE way more than the Suzuki. It’s an nice little bike which would suits almost everyone. The gear shifts and clutch control is great and I loved the handling of this bike. It’s a shame that people nowadays just focus on the big and just overpowered adventurer bikes. I owned a RE411, but it was physically too small for me. So I’ve sold it for a AfricaTwin and rode half around the world. And I still love my AT. But if RE would have released the Re450 3 years earlier i would still happily ride a RE today. Perfect little bike for real travellers! Ps: I’ve seen you and your friend at the „SW-Motech open house“, but was to afraid to talk to you guys. Very sad, because I was really interested in your experiences with the sweet Transalp of your friend. Well, maybe next time! Best regards, Jens!
@mancavemoto
2 ай бұрын
Hey Jens, you should definitely have said Hello.
@TobotronPrime
3 ай бұрын
I test rode this on similar muddy trails, wet mud like that the front on stock tyres was just constantly washing out and rear could dig you out but it did struggle - 100% needs different tyres for any real adventure riding
@christopherhorton5449
3 ай бұрын
A great review. I really like the look of this bike. RE have done it again A real world bike at a decent price.
@alainmichaud6747
3 ай бұрын
They did change there whole mindset with this new modern model, Good review and comments on the the handling and comfort, good comments on the tires, good honest review . comment : could change your camera set up to have the screen not blink during the video ... Alain & Yellow
@podunkman2709
3 ай бұрын
Well, not really. This is evolution. Not so tremendous.
@ONEly-uc4et
3 ай бұрын
Waiting to try the scrambler version. That should be interesting. Great review! Thank you
@blackskunk54
3 ай бұрын
There will be no 450 Scrambler, only a 650 twin
@ChrisJ-ru6ek
Ай бұрын
@@blackskunk54 🤣
@1990-t1j
3 ай бұрын
I've noted from elsewhere that this bike feels buzzy compared to the old 411 model. 196 kg is heavy for a 450. I keep looking around in an attempt to find a replacement for my KTM 390 Duke Mk2, but there really isn't anything better in the 350/450 class. Apart from the new KTM 390 Duke. I do like the Scram 411, though for its rugged looks and low-down shove. And if the still available in Thailand Yamaha SR400 wasn't so ridiculously priced here, I'd get one. Good review, Tony. Nick
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Cheers Nick, I'm hoping to try the new CFmoto 450MT, which looks interesting
@BN1960
3 ай бұрын
Not too bad price wise
@mark.e.p
3 ай бұрын
Fantastic review and after spending 3 hours on a demo, l have to agree with you on every level. I did venture off road, and yes, the tyres are dreadful, so no one should judge it's ability off road without decent 50/50 tyres. Great stuff and for me it ticks every box. Cheers
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@kyotosal
3 ай бұрын
Very thorough review! Thank you so much. I want one!
@jimmydickson8854
3 ай бұрын
If you let go the handle bars on the straight it will pull to the right I found ,try it but be carefull,it’s some balance or drag problem with the bike ,the next problem is the vibration may be enfeilds engineers can improve on this ,I know it’s a single you expect some vibes but there is room for improvement ,next is the stand is too short ,besides that it’s good value and it dose what it says on the tin ,jimmy Australia
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
I would say thats possibly down to the tyres. I didnt experience any problems.
@authorsauditions
3 ай бұрын
You can see the rider go no hands for a bit. Didn't look like there was a problem. If your bike is pulling to the right you should get it checked.
@mikerider58
3 ай бұрын
The previous model had absolutely no grunt and could be best described as a Pressure washer with 2 wheels.
@authorsauditions
3 ай бұрын
And yet a terrific, easy to ride, comfortable bike. Did 800km on the 411 about a month back. Loved it! Rose the 450 a bit too. Although the newer version of the 411 - they are very different bikes. The similarity is primarily how easy they both are to ride.
@DaveBoothroyd-ej5in
Ай бұрын
Can't think why you'd choose this over a 1 year old low mileage CB500X as a do it all, inc. potentially world travel bike - but that's just me. It does look good for the money.
@papabattery
3 ай бұрын
How does it compare with the Honda NX500?
@jimmyjam8795
3 ай бұрын
Not comparable really, the Himalayan has a lot of "character" and the Honda is smooth and just does a job. You'd need to ride both. Over 18 months I found my cb500x very boring and changed it for cb500f which is a great little bike for all uses.
@podunkman2709
3 ай бұрын
If u ride offroad (most of people do not) Himalayan is better; comfortable, handles any offroad conditions well... joy of ride. If u ride mainly on roads, Honda is way, way better. Better quality, more power (it's not about spped but flexibility), smooth engine. The only pro Himalayan on road can be if u are tall. Himalayan is great, reall offroad bike but is terrible on road.
@papabattery
3 ай бұрын
@@podunkman2709 Thank you!
@mmvelea
3 ай бұрын
Can be driven with A2 driving licence?
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Yes
@elinapetrova9677
3 ай бұрын
Heyyy 🙌 Kind of off topic but what settings do you film on your action camera and export at because when I export it always ruins the quality? Thanks!
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
I film in 4k, 24 fps
@malcolmpatton9314
3 ай бұрын
In your honest opinion would this be a good replacement for my Honda cb500x 2019 normal front forks single disc model I have currently I know I need to test ride it but would value your opinion.
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Could be, it’s a different tide for sure. If I had to choose I’d probably plump for the new NX500
@edwardwilliammorris1340
4 күн бұрын
Great review thanks. The issue of power is different for everyone. I had a st1300 pan European ans now ride a 350 meteor and am completely with it and also the 100mpg i get from it . Royal Enfield have come along so far in recent years .
@jimmydickson8854
Ай бұрын
70 miles an hour is fine for most people unless your a rev head it’s not the bike for them jimmy Australia
@silviofontana5144
2 ай бұрын
If a motorbike holds its resale value, then its obviously considered good value. RE seem to loose value very quickly. I learnt to ride a 350cc RE in 1965, they were solid, ran forever, but leaked oil. Prefer the Brit made RE's
@MrAndrew1953
3 ай бұрын
I read a review of this bike today in the magazine section of the Australian newspaper 8/6/24 which slated it for its lack of bottom end power. I think out of 5 stars the reviewer gave it 2. Your thoughts.
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Its a 450cc single, im not sure how much bottom end power they were expecting? But the gearing means its pretty spritely. Its also not screaming itself to death at highways speeds either. Lowe end power was not a problem for the bike it is.
@EJK1965
3 ай бұрын
All I can say is I pray that RE have improved the engineering and materials over the interceptor 650, which is pitiful......nice unfussy review though.
@lukelowe918
3 ай бұрын
INT650 is a great machine. If you're expecting triumph bonneville build quality at 1/2 the price your expectations are the problem not the motorcycle.
@jimmyjam8795
3 ай бұрын
After waiting for mine for 5 months, rode dealer demo. In a word.... disappointed! Shotgun 650 owner now.
@djhowse
3 ай бұрын
@jimmyjam8795 bemused as to why you would wait 5 months to try an adventure bike and then buy a completely different style of bike instead of a comparable adventure bike..?🤔
@jimmyjam8795
3 ай бұрын
Liked the look of it, before it was even released in the UK . Took a leap of faith and put a pre order on one. Bike was due in Feb, then April. White with tubeless was delayed, but dealer told me come and try their demo tubed in slate colour. So I went down and test rode demo. Hated it, canceled order immediately. As it transpires,, the white tubless models still aren't expected until mid June. Had really high hopes for this bike, but it didn't match the hype... simple. Shotgun 650 great second weekend bike for me. Wasn't focused on style of bike, just wanted second weekend toy. Thought Himmy was the one, but it wasn't. Shotgun works. Honda CB 500f is my main bike.
@slakk5093
3 ай бұрын
@@jimmyjam8795 clearly not the target for this type of bike. This is more of a utilitarian vehicle than a lookatme type vehicle.
@Jonathan-L
3 ай бұрын
Hi Jimmy, what's your impression of the Shotgun? Likes? Dislikes?
@jimmyjam8795
3 ай бұрын
Enjoying her, but if you want an easy ride you won't get it. You definitely need to be able to ride well as it requires alot of rider input to corner well. But that makes it engaging. I'm not interested in speed so she plods along nicely for me at the uk speed limit. She is 240 kg, and you can always feel she is that heavy, moving her around can be challenging in tight spaces. Overall quality seems good, and I'm enjoying the ownership experience.
@starseeddeluxe
3 ай бұрын
One of life's mysteries, is why motorcycles have small windscreens that blast the air straight into your eyes, causing the most amount of wind buffeting and wind noise possible----actually being worse than nothing at all! And the other mystery, which should be a class action lawsuit: no overdrive gear on any modern motorcycle, despite many motorcycles having nearly double the low end torque as earlier air cooled machines from the 1980's. Many motorcycles are geared the same as they were in 1997, which can only be explained through intentional malicious planned obsolescence and collusion with oil companies.
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Well that will differ from rider to rider a 5ft 5in and 6ft 5in person will have a completely different experience. Overdrive gears are effectively what taller 5th and 6th gears are surely? That’s why they’ve disappeared as the issue has been catered for.
@podunkman2709
3 ай бұрын
This motorcycle is great offroad. Great driving pleasure; great suspension, great ease of driving, maneuverability. You don't have to worry about driving anywhere. Comfortable. Joy of ride. But unfortunately it has a lot of disadvantages. It is completely unsuitable for fast roads. The maximum comfortable speed is 100 km/h. A terribly weak engine and it's not about speed but about flexibility - you have to change gears very often. Central stand barely works. It's made in an Asian way. Heavy. The center of the motorcycle is poorly shaped and holding it with your legs is problematic. Terribly ugly, non-functional display - for example, the turn signal arrows are practically invisible. One cylinder, vibrates. Illusory protection against the wind. Average brakes.
@stevencunningham4680
3 ай бұрын
The Himalayan is a great bike but I wish Royal Enfield would have stuck with an air and oil cooled engine instead of following the rest of the sheep in the herd and going to watercooling.
@lukelowe918
3 ай бұрын
The air cooling holds back the ability of the engine to perform. Liquid cooling in slow off road riding is a game changer.
@stevencunningham4680
3 ай бұрын
That Big. Bulbus gas tank is the ugliest tank I've ever seen.
@carlocristofani
3 ай бұрын
🇮🇹T. Y. Bye c.
@GaryV-p3h
3 ай бұрын
I pronounce it "Himalayan".
@leeinwis
2 ай бұрын
No
@mark.e.p
Ай бұрын
Yea, tyres are rubbish.
@The10thManRules
27 күн бұрын
The Himalayan looks beastly with dirt tires.
@ride-to-the-X
Ай бұрын
Good review ( as usual on Man Cave Moto) ! Need to test ride a Himalayan
@mancavemoto
Ай бұрын
You should!
@michisterndal
3 ай бұрын
You are talking about a "lower seat" (at 1:40) in this video - pls let me know where to get this lower seat. I am not able to get any information about this "lower seat" in Austria and even Royal Enfield support could not give me an answer. Did anyone ever see this "lower seat" for the Himalayan 450 or is it only "fake news"? Greetings Michi
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
It’s a OEM Royal Enfield option on the accessory list. Well it certainly is in the UK market www.royalenfield.com/content/dam/open-pdf/royal-enfield-himalayan-technical-specifications-uk.pdf
@blackskunk54
3 ай бұрын
You can adjust the seat height in the same way as a triumph, both front and back I am not aware of a lower seat, hope this helps
@blackskunk54
3 ай бұрын
@@mancavemoto That spec sheet is misleading. The standard seat is adjustable as per most Triumphs. You missed that you naughty cave man 😉 Picking my Kaza up this week
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
@blackskunk54 Not so, I did mention that the seat is adjustable, and there is ALS0 a lower seat option available on the accessory list
@mancavemoto
3 ай бұрын
Yep as I mentioned, and there is a link in the comment above to the lower seat.
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