These Ike gauntlets are interesting to watch always enjoy them 🙂
@dennissmith7214
7 ай бұрын
Yup! 🙌🏽😁
@302Mustang13
7 ай бұрын
Especially Ike comparisons.
@johnathanashleyOCSO
7 ай бұрын
@@302Mustang13 Definitely it helped me decide on my Ford Expedition Limited and since I'm looking for a similar vehicle next these videos are a great tool to have
@TFLtruck
7 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@rostislavgerman89
7 ай бұрын
You need to make a video Tacoma vs Buhanka😊
@srt4evr
7 ай бұрын
The Ike gauntlet is by far my favorite part of this whole channel. Love watching Andre and Mr Truck
@stevewainwright3344
7 ай бұрын
That's not a very tough climb. I be more interested if they would try going to Leads, Co. at 11,000 ft. elevation. That would be a true test of what these trucks can or can't handle.
@paulhunter9613
7 ай бұрын
@@stevewainwright3344 if you paid attention at the very start of the video Andre says its at 11, 158 ft elevation . So using your figures this would be considered a tough climb, correct?
@stevewainwright3344
Ай бұрын
@@Jbs6187 Yeah, I've only towed on it about 6 or 8 times. I tow a 16,000 lb 5th wheel all over the country, that stretch of road is I-70 outside Denver and is only 6% grade. Try towing that kind of weight over 10% grades like going to Leads, Co. Or the 10% grade over a 10,000 ft pass leaving Jackson's hole, Mt. into Idaho. Been towing places like that for 15 years. 😋
@nachoplax88888
7 ай бұрын
I like the numbers comparison on the screen at the end of the video
@HN-gj2iq
7 ай бұрын
Missing the left column saying what's what. like what is yes, and what's no.
@Shady350_
7 ай бұрын
I remember watching the 2016 Tacoma Ike Gauntlet video. That engine was screaming, it’s nice to see the new Tacoma doing much better
@beexiong2995
7 ай бұрын
All those 3rd gen fanboys keep clamoring about the over stress on the 4 cylinder but compared to the V6 in this test it didnt look stressed at all like the V6
@ryanmartinage
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. I owned a gen3 and if you put anything at all behind the truck, it screamed even at sea level in Florida.
@Jayb21724
7 ай бұрын
Gen3 owner, tow a 3000 plus lb boat ZERO issues
@Meech_CV
7 ай бұрын
I love my 3rd gen but damn is that thing not even fun to drive on the interstate. The transmission flip flops gears on even the smallest incline on the road. If I wasn't so close to paying it off, I might consider a 4th gen. I just don't want to restart a loan and also the new Generation is just far too expensive for a midsizer.
@beexiong2995
7 ай бұрын
@@Jayb21724 can it tow it? Yes. Will the engine like it? No. The question was about stress and the V6 is overstressed compared to the turbo 4
@LeesChannel
7 ай бұрын
The drone of the Tacoma would drive me crazy
@TheAnnoyingBoss
4 ай бұрын
All the cheap plastic on the chevy makes it look old and its still a pretty new truck tbh
@sgtaaronp
7 ай бұрын
The fact that TFL does actual truck test with actual trucks is refreshing! Love you guys at TFL!
@bobbysmith9411
7 ай бұрын
Great comparison. Both trucks are a W in my books.
@hochhaul
7 ай бұрын
Yeah can't really find much issue with either. Extremely similar performances from both. Could use a bit more sound dampening in the Tacoma but obviously they're trying to keep curb weight and costs down.
@dalejones4322
7 ай бұрын
I love Ike videos. The Tacoma did better than I thought it would. Mr. Truck hit on something. Toyota never goes to top of class. I think, maybe, pushing those limits is what makes vehicles unreliable. Toyota's claim to fame is reliability and that's why they are number one. Everyone wants the fastest most powerful vehicle but when the average guy is spending so much money, he just wants to make sure it's not going to give him problems. Thanks Guys
@whatchalookin429
7 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking, well said
@elche1976
7 ай бұрын
The average Tacoma buyer wants a vehicle they can sell to the next guy for a little more.
@stevewainwright3344
7 ай бұрын
If you listen closely to this video you can tell they were very biased to Tacoma.
@stevewainwright3344
7 ай бұрын
Coil springs will wear out long before leaf springs, and they allow the truck to sway a lot more
@stevewainwright3344
7 ай бұрын
This truck was really working hard to climb that grade. Has less hp and less torque than the Colorado. And since it was revving higher it's using more gas. He said he had the pedal on the floor to maintain 60 mph.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
For all the “Temperature” comments. The temp gauge is misleading. It’s a zoomed in version of the gauge. If you go through the info screen you can see the actual temp. But for comparison, in the video you can look at the temp at 19:30 while he is sitting still. The gauge shows the temps pretty close to the same as full speed at 18:33. It’s not getting hot. And, I’ve towed with my TB all over Colorado and Utah in late July with outside temps at 114°. The truck does just fine. Not problems with getting hot.
@johnddaley
7 ай бұрын
Agreed. I also have a ‘23 Colorado trail boss, the temps are at their normal position.
@Montana270
7 ай бұрын
The hottest I've ever seen in the past 10k miles in my 23 colorado was 214° and that was actually offloading for several hours in 4hi
@CraigSmith568
7 ай бұрын
Both trucks have a screen that looks like an afterthought.
@wildbill23c
7 ай бұрын
Most vehicles do. I'd rather they left them out altogether for longevity sake.
@hochhaul
7 ай бұрын
Both are good enough for trucks. It doesn't need to look like a rhinestone cowboy setup like the lolram.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
4 ай бұрын
The front of the chevy looks 10 years old its a year old bro 8000 miles on it
@adambaddass
7 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the new ranger comparison in the mid-size Ike
@afteryourburial
Ай бұрын
Picking up a 24 trail boss in a couple weeks as my first truck and I’m beyond excited. Nice to see it can live up to the test. Great Video!
@carlc5748
7 ай бұрын
Since there are three separate assembly plants for the Toyota Tacoma, ( yours was assembled in the Guanajuato, Mexico plant), and the Baja California Norte, (Tijuana, Mexico) plant, and the San Antonio, Texas plant, if there is a difference in quality control. I bring up this question since I had a 2020 Tacoma, that was assembled at the Guanajuato, Mexico plant. That truck with only 45k miles was totaled out in a severe frontal impact accident last year. I purchased another 2020 Tacoma truck, this one being assembled at the San Antonio, Texas plant. I have noticed that this newer truck, for lack of a better word, feels "tighter", in regards to engine response, and in the braking, as well. Both of mine have the 6 speed manual transmission, (I loathe automatic transmissions). Great comparison that you guys always do, out on the ultimate real world test loop, thank you!
@beexiong2995
7 ай бұрын
They stopped building tacos in texas years ago i think
@is6566
7 ай бұрын
They only build in Mexico now. They stopped building in Texas with this new generation. In theory though it should not matter. There is a thing called quality control and it makes the quality even across the plants. In theory.
@carlc5748
7 ай бұрын
@@is6566 Thanks, I was not aware that the San Antonio, Texas Tacoma assembly plant, was shut down.
@engineer_alv
7 ай бұрын
@@carlc5748they only build Tundras and Sequoias now
@hochhaul
7 ай бұрын
@@carlc5748 It didn't shut down, it just stopped building Tacomas and now only builds Tundras.
@JBUCKNE
7 ай бұрын
I really enjoy the videos with Mr Truck and Andre “The New Mr Truck.” To me Mr Truck brings the wisdom and experience that a lot of videos are lacking. He’s seen and driven many models and versions of trucks and humbly explains how the new ones fit in. Great video gents.
@MrTruckTV
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@MJCART-be9nb
7 ай бұрын
Mr. Truck, Congrats on the announcement! Fun to see you're still using the tape to measure squat. An idea I suggested many years ago when TFL reviewed the Titon XD.. thanks, Jason.
@MrTruckTV
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@seanh2390
7 ай бұрын
for some reason I find these ike gauntlet videos very relaxing, especially the winter ones
@carlc5748
7 ай бұрын
I'd like to see one of the many marauding Colorado bigfoot crossing the road in front of them!
@Benalan613
7 ай бұрын
Mr truck - Is this a 2004 or 2003? 😂😂
@brians.1357
7 ай бұрын
I don’t think Andre caught the humor 😂.
@robertschneider1977
7 ай бұрын
Me too, Mr Truck...me too🙃
@Travisj9935
7 ай бұрын
He's so annoying. I wish I could mute him. He always says the same exact crap all the time
@samgford
7 ай бұрын
@@Travisj9935just like your mom
@Brownlightning1990
7 ай бұрын
@@samgford😂😂😂
@hhjones9393
7 ай бұрын
Pretty wild how far this truck size has come in the last 10 years! Both of those trucks did a great job, and with a 4 cylinder engine! The head to head challenge is always a blast on the Ike and made even better with Mr. Truck and Andre together. Also, thanks to the crew driving the camera truck!
@Likethetacosauce
7 ай бұрын
Don't forget that 4cyl has snail power
@hhjones9393
7 ай бұрын
@@Likethetacosauce Dig that! My Alfa has it and I love it!
@Likethetacosauce
7 ай бұрын
@@hhjones9393 90 240sx has one and it makes all the right noises
@MrTruckTV
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@hochhaul
7 ай бұрын
The growth in the size of midsize trucks is mostly due to how the government uses wheelbase to calculate emissions regulations and the increasingly stringent crash testing requirements.
@Hiluxtaco
7 ай бұрын
I love hearing Mr. Truck giving Andre crap about the color of his Chevy Colorado...
@pauldiesel4582
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, Nitro Yellow? More like Urine Sample.
@G-Rated
7 ай бұрын
But everyone would love the color if it was on a Hyundai or Acura. lol. It’s no different from everyone always mentioning cruise control to Andre. The TFL channel conglomerate has turned into a politically biased *gm* troll. It’s sad to watch how they HATE on *gm* so unapologetically around these parts and make every excuse they possibly can make for the Japanese and South Koreans. 🙄
@RecBuddha
7 ай бұрын
@@G-Rated They literally just gave the Colorado the win in this video over the Tacoma.
@G-Rated
7 ай бұрын
@@RecBuddha because it performed superiorly in the test. That has NOTHING to do with what I’m saying about bias and how *gm* is constantly *trolled* around these parts, and they welcome it. Nathan and Roman are literally *gm* trolls. They give Andre hell about his American purchase ALL OF THE TIME. The channel has become politically driven and biased, no one can deny it.
@G-Rated
7 ай бұрын
@devildog5354 exactly the reason *gm* made it an option because people do not use it. But they don’t talk about that, it’s the constant narrative they push here that General Motors is the cheapest manufacturer and their product lacks some “bare minimum” of what new vehicles should have in this day and age. Of course cooperations as successful as *gm* are going to have haters, but my issue lies with TFL who are supposed to be UNBIASED and providing consumers the facts/truth. Some of them are also trolls of *gm* and I don’t understand why they think we haven’t picked up on that.
@captaincrypto9660
7 ай бұрын
Ordered my 2024 Colorado ZR2 in November. Best looking truck on the market.
@Jay-me7gw
7 ай бұрын
Have you driven one? I was super unimpressed by the motor. I've owned an F150 Ecoboost for 9 years and the 2.7L in the ZR2 felt really weak to me despite making more torque on paper and being 1200 lbs lighter. I walked away from the test drive pretty disappointed. I had pretty high hopes for the truck.
@captaincrypto9660
7 ай бұрын
@Jay-me7gw I have and it wasn't that bad. I'm not buying it to drag race 😊. I have watched hundreds of videos of people towing and using it off road. They all seemed to like how it handles.
@Jay-me7gw
7 ай бұрын
@@captaincrypto9660 I wasn't buying it to drag race either, but I do wanna tow and was looking for low end torque. It was not there.
@googleaccount2637
5 ай бұрын
@@Jay-me7gwlikely due to 3.42 gears for fuel efficiency.
@Jay-me7gw
5 ай бұрын
@@googleaccount2637 It has an 8 speed transmission with a very deep first gear and tight ratio spacing. As long as you hit the RPM you need to, it doesnt matter what the axle gears are. It a combination of both the transmissions gearing and the axle gearing to give you an overall gear reduction that matters. This isnt 1995 where we had 4 speed transmissions with horrible gear ratios and NEEDED 4.10's just to make them not suck. Im sure the 3.31 and 3.42 and 3.55's in the 2500 and 3500 HD diesel trucks are for efficiency too?
@randydiaz5951
6 ай бұрын
I loved this test. Here’s something I noticed, Tacoma climbed at at higher rpm and the temperature stay steady and didn’t increase as the Colorado did, which went close to red temperature line.
@ZachMauch
4 ай бұрын
That is a MAJOR thing. Why is it not being talked about. That suggests it isn't being properly cooled for its tow rating which will eventually kill things.
@randydiaz5951
4 ай бұрын
@@ZachMauch you got it!
@toneyo4794
Ай бұрын
After 5 months more videos are coming out about transmissions overheating while 4 wheeling and cutting throttle and having Tacomas sit running while the transmissions cool. Some of these instances were while 4 wheeling with a gen 3 Tacoma and the gen 3 had no overheating issues.
@michaelcooley8275
Ай бұрын
Look earlier in the video before towing and the temp guage is in the same place at both the top and bottom of the hill. Feature for Feature versus price your getting ripped off by Toyota.
@davidhillbrand2302
7 ай бұрын
Great video and interesting results. As a native coloradan that tows in the mountains often, it seems to me that despite these trucks tow ratings, I think towing this much weight might be best left for larger trucks. Good to know they can do it however!
@davep4610
7 ай бұрын
Agree if this heavy towing is a regular thing. But if I buy a Tacoma I'll know that I can get something like a U-Haul trailer and pull it fully loaded with no problem.
@4vinylsound
7 ай бұрын
I purchased the chevy Colorado trail boss for my wife because she gets confused with the 4 wheel drive modes and I just put it in auto mode and set it and forget it with the Tacoma you can't do that so that would be a deal breaker it's the only truck that doesn't have auto. WTF Toyota
@teamstomper4x4
7 ай бұрын
Great video, big fan of the Colorado and Canyon trucks. GM doing a great job in the mid truck market.
@RedWingsninetyone
7 ай бұрын
You can disable adaptive cruise by holding the cruise button for 3 seconds when turning it on. Then it is regular cruise control. Coming from experience, even the 3rd gen Tacoma is much better at automatically grade shifting when you use cruise control.
@hochhaul
7 ай бұрын
Same with GM trucks. Work better with CC on.
@Snappydadshoes
7 ай бұрын
Be interesting to see how the Tacoma performs as it gets used. Andre had lots of issues with his truck when he first bought it, dead batteries, failed updates, dead back up camera. Lets see what happens with the Taco.
@flight2k5
7 ай бұрын
That’s a GM though
@ehiggins7476
7 ай бұрын
The Chevys are suffering from stretched timing chains at 30-40K miles. A bear of a job to do, and very expensive. The price difference is well worth it and if you keep the truck a long time it will be cheaper to own. Also better resale on the Toyota.
@jimsomerville3924
7 ай бұрын
@@ehiggins7476 we don't really know it will be cheaper to own or more reliable as it's brand new. The new Tundra didn't sound like it fared too well on reliability front.
@Snappydadshoes
7 ай бұрын
@@jimsomerville3924 see I'm biased. I have a 2023 tundra. I bought it in 2022. It's 14 months old. I haven't had a single issue. It's been wonderful.
@kennordsfan1494
7 ай бұрын
@@ehiggins7476That is on the old 3.6 engines but more prevalent to about the 2014’s ish. But most of the issues was lack of maintenance ie oil changes. Which most new engines that suffer from timing chain issues is the oil needs to be changed regularly. Ford had their engines suffer as well. I did belive Toyotas on some ealrier 3.5's had the same issue because oil pressure is used o lubricate the timing chains and oil pressure is need for the tensioners as well.
@Kjhgr01
7 ай бұрын
A Tacoma hunting for gears, never heard that before!! 🤪🤣🤣
@blendpinexus1416
4 ай бұрын
it sounded like it was hunting gears when i slowly passed by. i was sorta hunting gears myself in my manual transmission car. couldn't find one it was happy in and eventually dropped out behind them to find a spot the car was happy in.
@turdferguson2839
7 ай бұрын
Looks like Toyota just barely caught up to Chevrolet, luckily for Toyota they have thousands of clueless fanboys drooling to buy a Tacoma then put 35" tires and dumb light bars all over it lol
@kongchingpow
6 ай бұрын
I'm a regular gm owner...but i know from experience that toyota has a ridiculous build quality and attention to detail and necessity. You are right about the fanboys...but i would buy one for the toyota quality alone. I like the last generation a lot more, though, tbh.
@lgbnz
3 ай бұрын
you sure about that? you can't even trade in a newer gen tundra because of its catastrophic engine failure recall for half of all existing tundras
@PHUCKyoutube689
Ай бұрын
Chevy trucks fall apart around 100,000 miles. Chevy went down hill decades agao the fanboys just don't understand and just excuse away the constant mechanical problems their trucks have. Toyota is going that way but just started this year. Give them a few years and they will catch up with chevy in the POS race to the bottom.
@turdferguson2839
Ай бұрын
@PHUCKyoutube689 both the Tundra and Tacoma have had more recalls over the last 2 years than the Silverado and Colorado. Take a new Tacoma off road and it falls apart after 1 hour, TFL and Icon suspension both broke their Tacomas in light offroad driving.
@PHUCKyoutube689
Ай бұрын
@@turdferguson2839 I said they will catch up but seriously Chevys are designed for a 100,000 before they fall apart. If you buy a new truck every 3 or 4 years then chevys are great. I have been offroading with both and the chevys always had issues and problems, constantly broken down or overheating, the toyotas have had issues also but older ones with well over 250,000 miles on them. Both my gen 1 and gen 2 have over 250,000 and run fine, pass smog. My gen 3 is alright but not a fan of the transmission. Gen 4 is a joke from what I see and would probably get a Nissan if I needed a new truck right now.
@Purdue03b
7 ай бұрын
Why do people complain about the headlight controls in the screen? I rarely touch my controls since they are automatic on my truck, so it makes sense to move it there. If I had to turn them on/off every time, then no, that wouldn’t make sense, but on the Colorado, they’re auto…
@duggydo
7 ай бұрын
Mr. Truck is right about the Tacoma. This truck may be a bit better than the previous model, but there are still many things they came up short on.
@LouisvilleRaider
7 ай бұрын
Been looking at both trucks so this video was perfect. Love the ike gauntlet videos 👍🏻
@dontask7898
7 ай бұрын
Adaptive cruise but no trailer brakes??? So the opposite of the Colorado. Love these industry standards.
@WW-wf8tu
7 ай бұрын
Congrats Mr. Truck on your up coming marriage! Nice guys like you deserve a lifetime of happiness and companionship. Wishing you the best. 🙂
@kylesummers1565
7 ай бұрын
I had really bad luck with one of the 2018 Chevys we bought. I only have 1 Toy right now (02 Tacoma), but the company has 2 Tundras that are outlasting everything else. Peace, Love!!
@swampfoxpicks6908
7 ай бұрын
Being specific that "2018" was a completely different platform. This Colorado was all new last year.
@rickeycooley9139
6 ай бұрын
@@swampfoxpicks6908well that don’t excuse GM from building junk.
@swampfoxpicks6908
6 ай бұрын
@@rickeycooley9139 I do apologize sir for pointing a difference in model years. Please forgive me
@jamesfreeman7954
2 ай бұрын
I'm starting to take a liking to the 4th gen. I may pick one up on it's 2nd or 3rd year itteration. Awesome!
@derfderfson
3 ай бұрын
As a guy who owns a truck, trucks are good at being trucks for doing truck stuff.
@wolf9ko970
7 ай бұрын
great video I would like to see the i-forcemax done next because of the nearly 100lb.-ft more torque and about 50 more horsepower. i-FORCE turbocharged 2.4L four-cylinder 278 hp 317 lb-ft of torque vs Hybrid i-FORCE MAX powertrain 326 hp 465 lb.-ft of torque at just 1700 rpm
@danagreene10
7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that it hasn't been brought up that the Colorado was danger close to over heating and the Taco was still in normal op temps
@paulhunter9613
7 ай бұрын
How do you know the taco was at normal temps? Did you see a gauge that said hot the temp was? I didn’t see one
@jeffbeard395
7 ай бұрын
Great review, thank you. We are looking into the long bed midsized truck with quad cab. Toyota is looking good. And my Camry has 307,000 miles on it. 😊
@marcpikas2859
7 ай бұрын
One tough Camry you got! One owner I’d guess.
@jeffbeard395
7 ай бұрын
Third owner. Spark plugs, brakes and normal maintenance mostly.
@chodiusmaximus4042
7 ай бұрын
What year Camry u got? My mom still has her 2002 Camry, RN it has 320k miles and still feels brand new.
@MtndogCO67
7 ай бұрын
I’m biased as I sell Tacoma’s BUT the Chevy has done so well with fit and finish, appearance, sound deadening and hp.. plus payload… but I sold Chevys for many years and I’ve yet to see them make a reliable vehicle past 75k miles. Bummer for them.. and when the Hybrid Tacoma arrives, it’ll be game over. The money differential is real but I CAN GUARANTEE ANYONE that they’ll get that extra money spent, when they sell it trade it down the road PLUS a ton more. Good job Colorado, but it’s not enough of a win to beat Toyota resale and reliability.
@davidblalock9945
7 ай бұрын
So glad to see Mr Truck on the show more often as of late. He was greatly missed during his hiatus.
@DUNEATV
7 ай бұрын
The Chevy looks so much better… and it outperformed the Toyota!
@flight2k5
7 ай бұрын
Naw it doesn’t look better 😂
@teddonley9594
7 ай бұрын
They look the same. It's like Toyota just copied the colorodo
@flight2k5
7 ай бұрын
@@teddonley9594 I love how triggered your pansy ass is 😂🤣
@ProCoach2373
7 ай бұрын
The Tacoma looked more stable and it maintained it's coolant temperature which is typical Toyota. That's part of the reason they are so reliable. I've owned two Tundras for well over a decade and they are always rock solid on temperatures and oil pressure regardless of conditions. The Chevy did show a rise in temps. I'd buy the Tacoma.
@FranciscoSantana-i1p
7 ай бұрын
Yeah but remember that the tacoma they are using its a higher trim level over the trail boss....
@ProCoach2373
7 ай бұрын
@@FranciscoSantana-i1p I don't think it makes any difference. I'm talking about basic fundamentals like cooling and stability.
@cardenbertrand2493
7 ай бұрын
Wonderful video! You’re both fun to watch… Were the Colorado’s engine and transmission close to overheating on the way up the Ike? It looked like it on the gauges. Thanks for doing these videos!
@MrTruckTV
7 ай бұрын
Thanks
@joshgonzalez2112
7 ай бұрын
Colorado has a Brake controller but no cruise control. Should be standard. But Colorado for the price
@larrylucas5731
7 ай бұрын
No cruise, no deal. It's a MUST-have for me!
@atg1338
7 ай бұрын
Blah blah blah
@7171-Ws6
7 ай бұрын
So get cruise then
@SCBMD2020
7 ай бұрын
I think they meant they were not going to use the cruise. Both trucks have Cruise Control. (Tacoma-27:54)
@stephenj4937
7 ай бұрын
@@SCBMD2020the Chevy doesn't have cruise control.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
@@stephenj4937 Andre didn’t check the box. That’s on him not the truck.
@lastglance8782
6 ай бұрын
I love hearing all the taco guys worried about if Toyotas put enough hot sauce on their new trucks 💋
@kennethisaac3799
7 ай бұрын
Considering the torque deficit of the Tacoma compared to the Colorado, I was surprised to see the Tacoma hold it's own on the Ike. For me, this shows that these trucks are very capable of towing well up to their maximum ratings under extreme conditions.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
I’d like to see the Taco try and pull 7700 pounds. Oh, that’s right, it can’t. They gave it all the beans at a lower weight. The Chevy would be like “Hold my latte while I easily roll up this mountain”. Haha
@ALMX5DP
7 ай бұрын
@@tommybruen4686huh? Sure it isn’t rated as high but with this same weight they both performed nearly identical yup the hill, with a couple of advantages noted for the Tacoma in other aspects.
@EGGINFOOLS
7 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DPPulled identical because they stop accelerating at 60. That would mean the chevy was 3 secs faster from 35 to 60 at toyotas max rating
@ALMX5DP
7 ай бұрын
@@EGGINFOOLS seems pretty similar to me even if the Colorado was a smidge quicker right at the beginning.
@elputoamo5686
7 ай бұрын
@@ALMX5DPactually pretty embarrassing for the Colorado considering it has way more like 30 HP and about 100 more torque
@josephholland2250
7 ай бұрын
People don't buy a Tacoma for towing! 99% People buy one for projected reliability and resale value
@drmichaellum
7 ай бұрын
One intangible that is not considered in this comparison is longevity and reliability. For that we have to rely on history and reputation.
@domin8ss
7 ай бұрын
Can we get an Ike comparison where the same truck runs it twice? On one run downhill do it with cruise control on. On the other run downhill do it with cruise control off. I suspect there will be a difference on the Colorado. I've been buying GM vehicles for over 20 years and driven all over the country, including the Ike. What I see in your videos and what I've experienced seem to be different things. I wouldn't be surprised if most trucks revealed a difference, too.
@slmjake
7 ай бұрын
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7 ай бұрын
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@RayRayIsCoolio
7 ай бұрын
so excited to see how the iforce max hybrid performs
@providentpathfinders219
7 ай бұрын
yeah. that 400+ ft lbs of torque should make it interesting
@ALMX5DP
7 ай бұрын
@@providentpathfinders219would it be able to sustain all ghat torque all the way up the hill though?
@SCBMD2020
7 ай бұрын
That's what I wanna see as well.@@ALMX5DP
@spyder000069
7 ай бұрын
@@providentpathfinders219 Since the colorado is already 430lbs torque we already know the outcome. Just means the peddle on the tacoma wont be smashed to the floor as much.
@Jay-me7gw
7 ай бұрын
It wont make a difference. Watch the Tundra iforce max video. The electric motor does nothing except for the initial acceleration and then abruptly shuts off at 50 mph. So you just get to carry an extra 500 lbs up the hill. The tacoma system is identical to the tundras.
@dreflow6312
7 ай бұрын
I’d put my money on the Tacoma because it’s gonna be more reliable over time.
@GrandPines323
7 ай бұрын
2:12 "And we'll not using cruise control" Mr. Truck taking a jab at the Chevy Colorado's lack of cruise control. 😂 After asking if the Truck is a 2003 or 2004 model. Love it!
@kamlee4010
7 ай бұрын
My friends have a lot of really old Taco , and they sure out last the new generation of trucks . Must them are used for hunting and fishing in my northern Ontario area. They have high clearance and very reliable in the bush road
@WheresHerb
7 ай бұрын
All these Tacoma fan boi's😂.
@cohocarl
7 ай бұрын
Don't call them "boi's"...that's assuming their gender. 😂
@Meg8554
7 ай бұрын
I see them those junk bois
@upshifter5316
7 ай бұрын
The chat about MrTruck’s pending nuptials and retirement was the best part of the video!!
@elwoodhewitt
7 ай бұрын
What was the transmission temp on the way up? Does it have a cooler on the trans?
@cardenbertrand2493
7 ай бұрын
I’m curious, too. From what I could see on the gauges, both the engine and transmission were very close to overheating on the CO on the way up Ike. Incorporating data like temperatures would be an interesting addition to these tests.
@CarnivoreDMD
7 ай бұрын
Cool! I was at VAIL last month. Missed you guys. 😂 Rented a JEEP 4xe & that motor ran constantly trying to charge that cold battery. Eventually turned that off & got much better fuel economy.
@ianduren
7 ай бұрын
No one mentioned the trans temp on the Chevy vs the Toyota? 😂
@cohocarl
7 ай бұрын
What were the temps, I missed that.
@jessaphillips2846
7 ай бұрын
They probably don’t have a sensor for it
@chad59
7 ай бұрын
@@jessaphillips2846 they are running the Bank data monster will tell the as well as the gear.
@454budman
7 ай бұрын
Look at it again thats just how that gauge is made. It was running right where it should
@nospark333
7 ай бұрын
How could you compare the trans temp? Taco doesn’t even have trans temp…
@silverxtaco
7 ай бұрын
Hate that I had to sell my 2017 tacoma with everything I had done to it. Gears, tune, setup for overland. Buuutt towing sucked even when stock. I was only towing 3k but it was terrible. So glad I did not wait to see how this new tacoma worked out. I took almost all the stuff off my taco and traded it for a tundra. Leaps and bounds a better vehicle. Sucks its huge but the added rear room is nice. Glad I can put things behind my seats.
@rrphotography3600
7 ай бұрын
Man, only 1200lb's payload in the taco so low. Mid size utes in Aus get nearly 1200kg (2500lb approx) payload in work biased vehicles with minimums of 800-900kg in more family friendly versions. Why are payloads so low in the states? You fill that car with fuel and 5 people and your at your payload. No mods, no ball weight. How does it work?
@ehiggins7476
7 ай бұрын
Who fills a Tacoma with 5 adults?
@palebeachbum
7 ай бұрын
Yes, that's incredibly weak. Even my very basic 2007 Canyon has a 1600lbs payload limit and I use every last pound of it at times.
@marcpikas2859
7 ай бұрын
Payload is indeed shortchanged with midsize trucks on this continent. They likely want to protect the full size market from shrinking as most owners drive their truck with an empty bed 90% of the time anyway. Also midsize mpg’s numbers are weak compared to full size trucks. Room for improvement in both aspects.
@paulhunter9613
7 ай бұрын
@@ehiggins7476 with what they were towing and just two guys the taco was at the maximum GCWR, if there was a bed mat or a cooler in the truck when towing it would have been overloaded
@ehiggins7476
7 ай бұрын
@@paulhunter9613and would have been pulled over by the payload police. Truck didn’t even break a sweat and handled better than the colorado. Chevy was at the high end of normal temp.
@judithvilla6026
7 ай бұрын
Totally enjoyed the spontaneous format of these impressions!
@TFLtruck
7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@dominionn09
7 ай бұрын
Remember this is a low optioned TRD off road too. No sliding rear window, cheaper interior. Those things are expensive
@pagodad8079
7 ай бұрын
Low trim rado as well.
@paulhunter9613
7 ай бұрын
An cheap center screen
@caseymccormack8397
7 ай бұрын
You guys need to actually go and measure the curb weight of the truck to find payload. It's not as simple as reading the sticker. Car and Driver measured a premium version of the same truck at less than 4800lbs
@ScarletKnightmare
7 ай бұрын
People are saying the Chevy will be junk in 5 years, and I'm not going to say it'll be as reliable as the Tacoma, but for mechanics looking for sweetheart deals there should indeed be an abundance of cheap Colorados in 5 years. That's how I got my Silverado cheap!
@ryanb8736
7 ай бұрын
At those high temps, the engine won’t last long.
@tbm275
7 ай бұрын
Fun thing, on the new Tacoma, ANYTIME the brakes are used little brake lights show up at the bottom of the instrument cluster, even with cruise control on.
@ChrisSmith-hx8km
7 ай бұрын
It looks like the trans and coolant temp on the Chevy was running high on the temp gauge during uphill. Tacoma temps looked about normal, just above mid range.
@454budman
7 ай бұрын
Look at it again thats just how the gauge is made it was running normal temp
@ChrisSmith-hx8km
7 ай бұрын
@@454budman 18:35 I know there isn’t a scale or actual readout on these temp gauges, but the levels on the Colorado are at the upper end of the gauge. It’s not too hot, but still high on the gauges.
@johnddaley
7 ай бұрын
@@ChrisSmith-hx8kmI have a 2023 Colorado. The gauges are reading their normal temp. That’s where they are even when not towing.
@ALMX5DP
7 ай бұрын
@@johnddaleythe readout did creep upwards during the run though.
@jeremysmith1969
7 ай бұрын
Yeah like the others said, the Colorado runs 'hot' for whatever reason - I've had mine at the upper end towing a tiny 700lb trailer (probably 1300 total lb). Their scale is 'just different'
@Ybshy
7 ай бұрын
Have you ever done a full payload test on the Colorado?
@TonyW-f5z
7 ай бұрын
I understand why you guys like the new Tacoma over the old one. However, I can't see myself ditching my '21 Off Road long-bed for one anytime soon. I like the old-school steering, brakes, and rear suspension, along with the V-6 engine design. It would have been nice for Toyota to have upgraded to the 8-speed sooner. Finally, for the money, the rear seat isn't larger and the payload still - sucks - being honest (my truck has 940 lbs payload). Without more rear legroom and at least 1,500 lbs of payload, Toyota seems to have missed the mark, in my opinion. As always, it is great that TFL does such in-depth, unbiased reviews.
@NWI_Steel
7 ай бұрын
Holy crap the tacoma weighs 5k lbs 😳
@TheCapn23
7 ай бұрын
"Midsize" trucks have really put on some weight over the years huh
@pryme2013
7 ай бұрын
Absurd. The 2016 tundra trd off road I owned was only 600 more
@davedaveson7211
7 ай бұрын
My aluminum crew cab f150 weighs less
@flight2k5
7 ай бұрын
So much for older trucks being heavier
@saltymofo5870
7 ай бұрын
This definitely proves one thing, these two are the biggest dorks on the internet
@Marti60628
7 ай бұрын
We need a Mr. Truck wedding video.
@MrTruckTV
7 ай бұрын
Thanks, it might happen
@Weak_juan
7 ай бұрын
Congrats kent! Youre the true mr.truck, the og.
@briannelson2818
7 ай бұрын
I would like to see the Ike Gauntlet test run in August in the summer heat. To test the vehicle’s cooling systems.
@AZTruck
7 ай бұрын
Agreed! Totally different tow at 90 degrees vs 20 degrees. Most consumers would be towing during the summer months, not the middle of winter.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
I’ve towed with my TB in 114° heat throughout Colorado and Utah. The truck dose great. Never even moved the dial on temp for the engine or trans. Even on the Ike. The screen they show in the video is a zoomed in display of the top half of the range. There is another option with actual temp.
@carlc5748
7 ай бұрын
Yes, you came up with a great idea, I hope that TFL considers your suggestion!
@javilink7
7 ай бұрын
@@tommybruen4686 What transmission temps were you getting?
@hawkeshots
6 ай бұрын
Silverthorne to the tunnel is a great test! Nicely done !
@JohnDoe-wy2py
7 ай бұрын
Andre’s hat must have been a Christmas present
@mendonesiac
6 ай бұрын
I also have reverence for Toyota trucks and their longevity, but I haven't seen anyone in the comments acknowledging that they had major head gasket issues in the 80s and 90s
@frankheffernan8066
7 ай бұрын
Great content. Colorado towed well with elevated engine temperatures. Tacoma towed slightly better by the performance numbers and what I got from your comments. Reliable and great maintenance record for the win. I have owned Toyota trucks for the last 25 years. I went to buy a 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road at the end of the year and the Toyota allocation process and just out right dealer greed turned me off. Now the prices have increased even more and every dealer seems to want his pound of flesh too. All around I always hear the “resale” value of the Tacoma brand. But, they just priced me out of the market. There are now two types of vehicles built and sold: those built for kings and those for paupers.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
You’re wrong about the temperatures. The Colorado was not elevated. The display is a zoomed in view of the top half of the range. If you go through the info screen you can see the actual temp in degrees. I have towed through Colorado and Utah in late July with outside trmps hitting 114° and in full sun. I never had the temp gauge change. Never got hot even on the steepest mountain passes. Even the Ike.
@frankheffernan8066
7 ай бұрын
Good to know. After my attempted Tacoma buying experience, I am prepared to pay cash for a 2024 Trail Boss. All I will do is stay with the maintenance schedule, weekend hunting off-road and fire-break driving and hope for the best. I don’t think Toyota or their dealers will change their attitudes or get my money ever again.
@thisisashan
6 ай бұрын
Would be good to revisit this with the hybrid turbo i4 taco.
@jake2772
7 ай бұрын
18:38 that heat gauge is climbing 👀
@ryanb8736
7 ай бұрын
Scary.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
Nope. Look at the temp when they were sitting still. It’s a minute later in the vid. Same temp.
@paulhunter9613
7 ай бұрын
@@tommybruen4686 they have a difficult time with facts and numbers obviously
@jake2772
7 ай бұрын
@@tommybruen4686 regardless if they weren’t moving it’s very close to the top, shouldn’t be that high ever.
@mattjohnson6227
7 ай бұрын
When Andre is rocking the cowboy hat, I’m in.
@jimsomerville3924
7 ай бұрын
Nice test. A couple of spec differences that matter for towing: Colorado has an extra 300 lb payload capacity rating, and a 3 gallon larger fuel tank.
@EvanHovis
7 ай бұрын
I just rewatched the ford ranger super ike and its pretty clear ford is still ahead. That trailer was 7500 lbs and this one is only 6500. And the ford went from 35-60 in 16 seconds. Compared to the chevy and toyotas 18 and 19
@Jay-me7gw
7 ай бұрын
I test drove a 2023 Colorado ZR2 and I swear the power and torque numbers are way overinflated. It did not drive like it had 430 ft-lbs. I was coming from a 420 ft-lbs F150 Ecoboost and my Ecoboost felt quite a bit stronger despite being a much heavier truck. I 100% believe the Ranger makes similar or more power to the Colorado.
@Mike-mi3yw
7 ай бұрын
I’m personally a little skeptical of the twin turbo hybrid system. I know that setup is in other vehicles they have but I suppose only time will tell. We bought our 4runner specifically because of the 4L V6 and the track record for reliability. I’d be interested in the new Lexus gx with the twin turbo 6 cylinder.
@palebeachbum
7 ай бұрын
That 4.0L fuel economy is painful though. Expensive to run.
@matthewvader8651
7 ай бұрын
I still have my 2011 Tacoma with 255k miles on it. That 4l can be put through hell and still looks beautiful. She is thirsty, but you don’t see broken down on the side of the road.
@Mike-mi3yw
7 ай бұрын
@@palebeachbumthat’s true. I also have a truck so it doesn’t bother me much personally. Just a trade off for reliability
@ryanb8736
7 ай бұрын
They will be built to last longer. Less stress and more power.
@royburnham100
7 ай бұрын
Long term, I would bet on the Taco being in better shape with less problems. However it's nice to see an American brand being competitive in the mid size market again
@CACressida
7 ай бұрын
The Chevy has terrible cooling. The coolant and trans temp were a tick below the danger zone considering its over 1,000 pounds lighter than its max towing. The Taco's temps stayed at the half way mark. If the grade was longer or the weight was heavier, the Chevy might overheat.
@sinister184
7 ай бұрын
Same as last time. And same as last time, it’s cold out. Run the Colorado in peak summer heat. It would overheat for sure.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
7 ай бұрын
More likely than not to overheat if it's 20 degrees warmer outside too. No car has had an honest temperature guage since the mid-90s. Most will hold right in the center from about 180F to 230F. If it's moved from that at all, it's probably close to 240F. Temperature is one of the rare measurements in physics where you just add the numbers together. If the engine is alreadg struggling to stay cool, a 20F warmer outside means a 20F warmer engine.
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
That’s not how the temp gauge works on the Colorado. The display only shows a zoomed in top half of the range. In the info screen you can look at the actual temp in degrees. I have a Trail Boss and have towed all over Colorado and Utah in 114° temps and it was awesome. No problem cooling while towing in the heat.
@454budman
7 ай бұрын
Its was running normal thats just the the gauge is set up. You can see the line next to it where normal operation is.
@FreshlySnipes
Ай бұрын
People buy Tacoma’s because they aren’t fancy. Basic and reliable. The fact that they still offer a manual is 👌🏽
@LTZ_Z71
7 ай бұрын
Great video as always. My only issue with the Toyota is the inside. The screen looks like it was an afterthought, especially on the models with the larger screen. GM and Ford both nailed the interior by comparison. The integration just looks so much better on the Ranger and Colorado compared to the Tacoma.
@cajjmiar
7 ай бұрын
The screen is an option , you can have bigger screen if you want.
@poncho9546
7 ай бұрын
I prefer this look to the others myself
@arhamkhakwani5851
7 ай бұрын
idk about that, especially with the smaller screen in the Taco. In fact, I think the large screen in the Ford looks more so tacky than this.
@LTZ_Z71
7 ай бұрын
@@cajjmiar I know, but I think because it isn't really integrated into the dash like the Ranger or Colorado and just some large screen hanging there, it doesn't look very finished.
@cmiles97x38
7 ай бұрын
Subtract 1 for a $41,000 chevy with no cruise control included. That is crazy these days yet folks will still buy them for that. Nuts!
@Ryan-cf6lc
7 ай бұрын
Crazy how similar they tested. I would happily pay the extra for the Tacoma given you get adaptive cruise control, more comfortable seats, better ride from the suspension and LED lights.
@JetSkiSuper7
7 ай бұрын
This episode should be a hint to consider resale value after 5, 10 and 15 years. You may "save" money upfront on the purchase but repairs. reliability, depreciation (cost of ownership) over time can change everything.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
7 ай бұрын
Well a mean a toyota depriciates a lot because you also pay a lot. Theyre often bought new and popular used because theyre affordable. My last honda cost 5000 dollars I probably spent 500 bucks on fixing and maintaining certain things plus gas and insurance cost a couple tires those were like 150 a peice. So if the car cost way more many moons ago you lost a lot of money buying it new and owning it. We sold the same honda for not much less than it cost to own it for 2 3 years.
@Tech4Ten
7 ай бұрын
Yeah plus resale is gonna be a crapshoot with these new trucks. Especially the Toyota since everything is new so don't know if the market will love this tacoma like the older reliable non turbo ones. Those non force induction buyers might jump over to the Nissan frontier.
@Tech4Ten
7 ай бұрын
Yeah plus resale is gonna be a crapshoot with these new trucks. Especially the Toyota since everything is new so don't know if the market will love this tacoma like the older reliable non turbo ones. Those non force induction buyers might jump over to the Nissan frontier.
@JetSkiSuper7
7 ай бұрын
@@Tech4Ten In the late 80's Toyota built turbo 4 cylinder trucks and some 4Runner's also had the turbo setup. Most are still on the road as well. This new turbo will prove to be bulletproof. People act as though Toyota/Lexus have never built turbos when that is far from the truth.
@andrewsbbq
7 ай бұрын
lol the Toyota guys are running out of excuses
@craigquann
6 ай бұрын
Multiple tow haul would be cool. Say 1 for flat ground/highway fuel efficiency and the second for more aggressive grade braking/shifting for mountains and hills. Or something to that effect. I wonder if that would be enough to actually matter. Or would it just be another gimmick?
@mrvwbug4423
7 ай бұрын
Given the power difference the Tacoma did extremely well, getting 15% better fuel econ up the hill with fewer brake applications coming down. Usually the larger displacement engine does better on the downhills because there's more displacement for the truck to push against. I suspect the hybrid Tacoma would crush the Colorado both uphill and downhill
@Jay-me7gw
7 ай бұрын
I don’t think the hybrid will help at all going up the hill. The tundra version helped up to 50 mph and the shut off the rest of the climb That said, i test drove a 2023 Colorado zr2 a few weeks ago and it felt really weak to me. Nothing like what a 430 ft-lbs truck should feel like. It had poor low end grunt and felt disappointing compared to my much heavier 2014 F150.
@kyrosmike
7 ай бұрын
I still don't trust any GM motor with cylinder deactivation, it always always wears uneven and causes problems, I rather have the Tacoma
@tommybruen4686
7 ай бұрын
Minr rarely turns on. I think I’ve seen it twice and only in low torque situations like down hill. It’s still moving in the cylinder just not getting fuel.
@perpelle
7 ай бұрын
Didn't André software update his colorado to get the higher power numbers from the engine? How much would that cost if you ordered it from factory? Was that included in the listed price in this video?
@theplayernkc
7 ай бұрын
Back in 2023 the higher HP software update was $395. In 2024 the Trail Boss comes standard with the higher HP engine, matter of fact GM dropped the mid HP engine on the Colorado.
@perpelle
7 ай бұрын
@@theplayernkc Was the 2023 mid hp the same price as the new 2024 Ho ?
@beexiong2995
7 ай бұрын
Turbo engine can be tuned for more power by simply adding boost and fueling/spaek adjustments. Something tuners do all the time with turbo engines and usually net 50hp and 100lb of torque. GM is just offering one from the factory before deciding just to give the high output on all of them. All that exta boost though could be detrimental to your drivetrain without the supporting upgrades
@robertopics
7 ай бұрын
@@perpellethe horse power has been the same the torque was the number that changed.
@theplayernkc
7 ай бұрын
@@beexiong2995 The Colorado Turbo Max engine was built for the higher HP and Torque numbers. That's why you could never get the software upgrade on the base 4 banger turbo engine in the 2023 Colorado.
@martinscocan5221
7 ай бұрын
oil and transmission temps were getting very high on the Chevy in the uphill.... Toyota does not show transmission temps but oil temps were steady on the Tacoma on the uphill and that engine was running harder
@vg3430
7 ай бұрын
Previous videos of this Tacoma showed dash with tranny and oil temps, wonder why they didn’t have it configure for this test?
@TheCapn23
7 ай бұрын
Nissan Frontier still the best value in the segment, imo
@Tech4Ten
7 ай бұрын
I agree. Plus last non turbo midsized worth any salt. I mean Ridgeline is there too but....
@TheSlugger76
7 ай бұрын
Plus’s there’s no turbo!! And will last longer
@TheCapn23
7 ай бұрын
@@Tech4Ten The Ridgeline is awesome, not my cup of tea but I respect it
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
7 ай бұрын
@TheCapn23 Ridgeline is a crossover with a bed. If that's what you want, it's great. Certainly better than a Santa Cruz and probably better than a Maverick, but pricing becomes an issue against Maverick.
@jasonperry7970
7 ай бұрын
The new Nissan V6s are fun rev happy engines for sure.
@slmjake
7 ай бұрын
I know the Tacoma is a great truck. But i am just not used to a high revving engine anymore.
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