Just unboxed a 27 ton yesterday and began assembly. The air filter cover is now a solid piece of plastic that has the hinge-type clips on the sides (similar to lawn mower filter covers). So there are no holes/screws on the top of the cover of my model. It appears Champion has resolved this problem.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! Glad to hear they've made some improvements.
@jpdunamislodge
3 жыл бұрын
We have kept a tarp over ours for the past 3 years. No water issues at all.
@Whiat0078
5 ай бұрын
I had to take mine out of my shed because i needed the room . I put the Champion cover over the splitter thinking that would be ok for a while Well what a surprise when i took it out to use it , not only did the cover let water go through it the air filter cover like you demonstrated let water in to the intake and i must say you got lucky you didn’t hydraulic your engine because you didn’t pull your spark plug to purge the water out of your cylinder like i had to because if you get water in the intake it will get to the cylinder too . And yes water came out of the spark plug hole so i drained the oil as well and had to do a compleat engine flush and luckily saved the engine , all this over a heavy champion cover that should have kept the rain water out and a poor design in air filter cover . If this happens drain float bowl, remove spark plug a turn over engine a lot to purge water , add oil to spark plug hole then turn over engine slowly to coat cylinder with oil , remove bass oil plug if water is there it will come out first ( oil stays on top of oil) if water is present drain bass oil and flush with oil as well . And don’t take a chance with their champion cover and keep it inside if possible or under a good waterproof cover
@rogercyr1551
3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 splitters, a 22-ton Forest King (China sourced) and a 31-ton Wallenstein (mostly Canada sourced, Honda engine). I use Champion covers for both of them. The covers only last about four years before succumbing to UV radiation and need to be replaced, but they're not expensive, fit well, and I've never had any weather-related issues with the machines. Shout-out to "Brad Myers" below, I caught the beginning of a wasp nest under one cover this year, it's a good idea to check covered equipment regularly for bugs and rodents, even if the machine isn't being used. And like "My Slice of Heaven" mentioned, always make sure the tank is full (to which I'll add) of high octane ethanol-free gas with fuel stabilizer added at all times, when it is not being used, especially for months at a time.
@GUNNERSOUTDOORADVENTURES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! I have the same one and this year was the first time I had an issue. I will give it a shot this weekend. Much appreciated!
@woofy548
2 жыл бұрын
Any machine that you leave out in the weather will have issues.
@inthedarkwoods2022
3 жыл бұрын
I would never leave a gas powered engine out in the weather without even covering it with a tarp.
@tomsommer54
Жыл бұрын
Who does?
@inthedarkwoods2022
Жыл бұрын
@@tomsommer54 Smart people does Ms. Sommer.
@devonmoore9152
2 жыл бұрын
An old rubber made type container flipped upside down covers the engine really well and is super easy to throw on after the engine cools down a bit. I have the same problem with the same splitter, it gets used multiple times a week and pulling it in and out of the garage is not an option, has been working great outside for four seasons now, highly recommend it to other small time processors.
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
Good idea with the storage container. I got rid of my champion and got a Wolfe Ridge and have shifted all the firewood vids over to my other channel, Flat Creek Outdoors. Maybe check us out over there. Thanks for stopping by and leaving the comment. Take care!
@jasonscott4525
3 жыл бұрын
I leave mine outside with a splitter cover/tarp and once in awhile my hydraulic fluid gets water in the tank. Keep an eye on your hydraulic fluid as well.
@vikingnorm6935
3 жыл бұрын
Good video, I left my 34 ton Champion out for about a month now, she’s is full until I get the OSB out of there, but the only 2 times it didn’t start has been since it’s been outside, both times fuel related, put a plug & all new fuel in the 1st time, took bolt out of bowl & turned on the shut off valve for like 90 seconds the last time, but I do believe your right
@1945jlee
Жыл бұрын
Good job! I also have no building to store my Splitter. have a 22 ton Champion(8yrs) which I use & leave in the Vertical Position, I put a plastic tub over the engine and a Plastic Trash Bag over the cylinder and valve. Protects against rain and snow! I also use Heet in the gas (ethanol free). South east Idaho in Bear Lake Valley at 6,000 feet.
@sidstimeoutdoors2782
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely tarp it or I think they make a cover. I'm very thankful for a barn to put mine in out of the weather. Stay safe and stay positive brother ❤
@randolph50
Жыл бұрын
Since this video is 2 years old, you probably have dry storage for the splitter by now. But for those who don't, there is a "Champion" water proof nylon cover on Amazon for $29. I just brought the Champion 27 ton yesterday and the first thing I did was order a cover. They also have a zero turn mower cover for that Cub Cadet you have sitting there. (I have an Ultima ZT1) It's about $35.
@WoodsTreeFarm
Жыл бұрын
You'd think so but no. My equipment is still out. I just got a sawmill and working on getting the lumber I need to build proper storage.
@joebarnett5358
Жыл бұрын
thats what i have used. it works!
@bacflip1
Жыл бұрын
The same thing happened to me. I did pull the plug and after pulling starter a number of times, the water comes out and I did drain it as you described exactly. It fired right up. Now, one thing I noticed this time, the engine runs well only while in the "choke" position. Once I push it back to the right, engine dies. What could be causing that? I do have a Champion cover on it, but it's going to find space in one of my sheds. I don't want to work on it for 30-45 minutes in order to get to splitting wood.
@MyClutteredGarage
3 жыл бұрын
Good tip, Phil. You may be able to cover the engine with an inverted plastic tote or bin and put a block or log on top to keep it from blowing off.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
excellent idea. I'll be giving that a shot.
@russelltrupia4479
3 жыл бұрын
I use to keep mine in my shop but a tarp and some bungee cords will work. Live and learn I guess, you always figure things out Phil.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
No worries. I'm getting a proper shelter very soon.
@NorthForkHollow
3 жыл бұрын
I keep my splitter outside too, so i feel your pain. But I use an old piece of rubber roofing to cover it. Works great because it will never leak or blow off like a tarp. Find someone that does commercial roofing and they can probably get you a small piece.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
Good tip. I could find plenty of uses for that kind of thing. Thanks!
@olympiawashdrummer
2 жыл бұрын
In the market for this. Can this be stored upright, as opposed to horizontal? Thinking of garage space.
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
It could, but vertical wouldn't save much space as the frame of the trailer remains horizontal.
@LPW1960s
10 күн бұрын
I store my Champion log spliter outside, but I put a plastic storage tote over the engine. The tote I use totally covers the entire engine and put a chunk of wood on top the tote to keep wind from blowing it off.
@MySliceOfHeavenoutdoors
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, have to keep things covered, even covered you want to keep the fuel tank full. The more air space in the tank the more condensation can build up in it.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
good tip
@JasonTurner
2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but if you have a metal tank that sits for any bit of time, it'll begin to rust from the inside out, and then you'll jam up your uptake tube with rust bits. No idea why everyone doesn't switch over to plastic/poly gas tanks?!
@RockhillfarmYT
3 жыл бұрын
Good video. I am keeping my splitter in my equipment shed but in case I ever have to leave it out I ordered a cover for it
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
I've admired your pole shed a few times now. Sure would be nice to have that kind of space. Some day.
@PVVP500
2 жыл бұрын
Especially with the small logs I use a small hand logging hook to pick up the wood (very productive). Also great for rolling the big pieces, then hooking and making vertical for that type of operation. Also I use the hook when picking up the heavy logs, I hook it into the right side rock the log to the left then rock it to the right, then use my left hand to pick up the left side. I'm in my sixties this helps keep me healthy. Thanks for the great videos!
@DWojo
Жыл бұрын
Does your hydraulic cylinder get piping hot? I run mine and after a while you could get burned if you touch it!! Yours do the same? Thanks!
@WoodsTreeFarm
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@juanbanuelos3531
Жыл бұрын
I m in the same situation. I have a 37 ton wood splitter Chiba source as well. went to fire it up to split wood nothing. I changed the sark plug sprayed starting fluid nothing. Bought a new spark plug nothing 😢. I do leave it out side with a tarp to protect it still nothing. Any suggestions to get to work. I always run the gas dry with the shut off valve so I don’t leave gas in the carburetor. Out of options. Thanks
@barryrutter1222
2 жыл бұрын
Do you realize you are running that thing on the wrong side
@bengarcia3818
3 жыл бұрын
Just my opinon, but I think you're putting more strain from working the machine from the engine side. If you do work it from the other side, you can stand up straight without having to bend over the machine. Even that slight bit, puts a strain. Just an observation. It also keeps you from having your arm reach over the area where the blade returns.
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
There's probably some truth to that. Thanks for watching
@joeganusi8522
2 жыл бұрын
Ben, If I had that splitter I would probably work from the same side as Phil is. Only difference is I would flip those log catchers around. This is the main reason I haven't bought one of these V/H splitters yet is because they all seen to be set up to operate from the side the engine isn't on. I am so used to operating from left to right, I'm afraid I'll cut my hand off. I wish they made them so you can choose what side you're most comfortable operating from.
@gregbassham548
3 жыл бұрын
Where do you store your tractors and other equipment? ON the property? Store everything in a pole barn? Does most of the large equipment like tractors get stored? just sit outside on the property then? Do you take any of the equipment to store at your main Home then ?
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
You'll find my equipment right by the security camera, guard dogs, and my AR-15. 😄🌲
@gregbassham548
3 жыл бұрын
So equipment must just sit outside then I take it? Even the new orange tractor? You must just cover large equipment with tarps. I am use to having a barn lean-to to store tractors out of the weather. Just curious. I know you can't be trailering those tractors from your main house the tree farm every time.
@rocklandrodgers
2 жыл бұрын
Why split such small pieces? Any benefit of that? If they fit in my stove I don’t split them. Should I?
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
I sell primarily to people who burn in backyard fire pits and fireplaces. They want flame, not long burn or a heavy coal bed, so smaller splits are preferred.
@mikechamplain2425
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. I kept my covered this past season under a tarp and it wont start this season...lol
@WoodsTreeFarm
6 ай бұрын
If you haven't already, drain the carb and put in fresh fuel that does the trick 90% of the time for me. If you didn't use ethanol free fuel and didn't run the machine dry you might need to clean the carb or just order a new one for like $20 on amazon. Should get you back up and running.
@BradMyers
3 жыл бұрын
Tarps. They are cheap at Harbor Freight. Some cheap bungee cords and it will get you through most issues till you can get your shed built. Just in the Spring and warmer months, be careful, the tarps have a way of attracting critters and you can get some unwelcomed surprises (and yes that is experience and yes, I can scream like a little girl when I get good and startled).
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
another comment mentioned putting a tub over the engine. That'll suffice for now. I'll be getting a shelter soon enough.
@thomaslittle9245
2 жыл бұрын
Even covered, it has the same type of problem. Very hard to start. Also if you trailer it and don't shut off fuel valve, very hard to start and kickback.
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
Mine was quite easy to start, never had trouble unless I forgot to turn on fuel valve or had water in the carb. But with fresh ethanol free fuel it fired up easily every time.
@thomaslittle9245
2 жыл бұрын
@@WoodsTreeFarm At this point likely a cylinder problem or possibly control valve. Oil in hydraulics was not changed, gets acid and brown and damages innards.
@steveashworth6707
Жыл бұрын
Fuel is usually the number one problem, but I dont keep any equipment out side!, I've left my splitter out with a tarp!. We keep everything in the barn including tractors and skid loader!.
@meChesmore-kv1wg
7 ай бұрын
The champion log splitter is designed to capture water and eventually end up in the cylinder. We live in Washington. It pours here. We’ve left all brands of chainsaws, skidders, movable yarders and this new wood splitter. Back to work on Monday.. everything starts up.. except the “champion” log splitter. Without a doubt, the (worst) design of something that is supposed to be used outdoors. Err to extreme prejudice, when buying this brand log splitter.
@jamesdrew1168
2 жыл бұрын
I keep my champion 27 in the barn but it refuses to run. Will run briefly with a shot of ether or brake clean so definitely a fuel issue. I'll try your carb drain suggestion just in case.
@thomasthompson4999
Жыл бұрын
Hi did you get it Running I have same issue
@jamesdrew1168
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasthompson4999 I removed the carburetor, stripped it and scrubbed every little part. Blew out the fuel filter and put it back together. It ran great. Don't know exactly what was wrong but it was definitely a fuel issue.
@jamescecil4629
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t you standing on the wrong side
@Stubby0266
2 жыл бұрын
Don't use fuel with Ethanol in it. That will help too. Ethanol collects moisture.
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
I only use ethanol free when I know the equipment is going to sit for a period. If I'm running through lots of fuel (like when mowing or pumping water during summer months) I'll run whatever, but fuel never sits in the equipment during those times. This was all from intrusion, not from fuel & condensation. Thanks for watching.
@hogman2524
Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY WHY I would not purchase one from Home Depot, that had set out in the weather for MONTHS!
@outdoorswithlarryrobin
3 жыл бұрын
Hello just came across your channel, we keep our splitter under cover. Just Subscribed and will check out your other videos, Take Care 🚜🪵👍🏼🇺🇸
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@ultrumas
Жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you leave an expensive piece of equipment outside without covering it with a 5 dollar tarp?
@johnjackson2797
3 жыл бұрын
You’re standing on the wrong side
@BronstoneHowlski
2 жыл бұрын
Forsure
@BronstoneHowlski
2 жыл бұрын
Stand on the other side. Grab a lil’ 4ft plastic party table and place it tight to the machine to your right. That way you can throw a heavy chunk on the table as you work the other half. Saves from bending down.
@bhoward81
Жыл бұрын
Who leaves a fuel-based machine outside without being covered?
@WoodsTreeFarm
Жыл бұрын
Lots of people
@TheGsellers
3 жыл бұрын
Harbor Freight $99 carport/awning - good for working under in weather too
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of their portable garages and hate it. I took it down this past weekend and I'm going to try to sell it on FB marketplace.
@davey3765
9 ай бұрын
I keep mine outdoors but covered in a tarp
@tomsommer54
Жыл бұрын
Home Depot sells a cover for that.
@SeriousSchitt
3 жыл бұрын
Rain is designed to reduce man's worldly kingdom!
@garyjohn316
2 жыл бұрын
Always tarp your equipment!
@WoodsTreeFarm
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, lesson learned 👍
@larrykluckoutdoors8227
3 жыл бұрын
I never leave my toys out in the weather. Look into a versatube building to keep your equipment in
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
I have looked at those buildings, and they're pretty expensive compared to other carport structures available on the market. There are plenty of companies around that build carports and metal garages and they'll do the install for you for less than the versatube kits. Thats what I plan on getting here pretty soon. Just need to figure out where on the property its going to go.
@stanleykeith6969
2 жыл бұрын
I cover mine with some of those Blue tarps. I paid $1,100.00, why leave it out uncovered, Take care of it. Use some Sea Foam in the gas.
@meagannolen5180
3 жыл бұрын
They sell covers for them , 30 dolla!
@randynix9805
2 жыл бұрын
Common sense. If you are going to leave it outside. Roll the wheels up onto a piece of 2x6 or plywood. Cover ithe engine good and then cover the entire machine.
@crxess
Жыл бұрын
Splitter Cover - $28.00 Cheap Tarp - $8.00 No excuses for not taking care of expensive equipment
@WoodsTreeFarm
Жыл бұрын
haha. OK
@crxess
10 ай бұрын
@@WoodsTreeFarm Watched this video again. Since you laughed my comment off, let me try ad help you understand a little better. Covering an implement, even with a cheap tarp, reduced risk of unexpected failures and protects against shortened usable life. Now, as a life long Mechanic/Technician: 1) Most people use whatever fuel is the cheapest, most available. In most cases this is an Ethanol Blend. Ethanol is highly hydroscopic and will absorb as much as 10% water, or more when exposed to humidity(Rain) in a Vented storage condition. 2) A carburetor i Not designed in a way to accept liquid into the Bowl area from any direction except the Fuel inlet from the tank. i.e. water in tank can = water in Carburetor. Fuel is drawn into the Carburetor throat from inlet jets via Engine Vacuum. That Fuel is instantly replaced from the Fuel Tank to the Bowl. 3) Water is heavier than Fuel and all Water collected by Ethanol Fuel settles to the Bottom of the Tank, right where the fuel is to be drawn from. i.e. Carburetor will receive Water first. Solutions: 1) Purchase only Non-Ethanol Fuel 2) Run the machine until out of fuel 3) add a diverter valve in the fuel line and Drain unused fuel back into the sealed Fuel container - then start and run the carburetor empty You do you, but I will continue to offer solid advice to help people get the most out of their purchases.
@jimdoss1732
3 жыл бұрын
I put a bucket or a tub over mine when I leave it outside
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
good thinking. I've got a few tubs laying around I can use.
@johnforman4308
3 жыл бұрын
$5 tarp will fix that problem
@WoodsTreeFarm
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Wordsalad69420
10 ай бұрын
Just get a cover man. No power equipment should be left outside.
@china1013
3 жыл бұрын
Those engineers should go back to school. An engine compartment that can't get wet. Wtf? What is this, the '30s with ancient technology? Imagine having to do this to your car after it rains.
@tomsommer54
Жыл бұрын
I really can’t believe you are dumbfounded about having water damage problems from leaving your spitter out in the weather. Who leaves there splitters outside? Nobody I know.
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