Would really enjoy seeing a redo on the .204 with a square on shot. Thanks for a good vid.
@user-tr4nd5lz8m
11 ай бұрын
I see you have the same distain that I have for 5 gallon water jugs…..thank you for being a great American.
@profesonalantagonist
11 ай бұрын
Not having an equivalent shot placement on the .204 makes an inconsistent comparison.
@krod2162
11 ай бұрын
I believe the 204 takes the prize it's all about high-speed lightweight bullets that's my favorite combo
@TheHurtlacher
11 ай бұрын
22-250 has been my go to for many years. I own all three presented here but my second favorite varmint caliber to tinker with is my Savage LRPV converted to bull barreled 20” 20 Vartarg.
@thesheepman220
9 ай бұрын
I use these 55 vmax in my encore 22-250 and my ruger no1 in 220 swift if want something smaller I use my sako in 17 Remington, I did used too have 204 ruger another great cal
@ballistictacticsms
Жыл бұрын
I would recommend securing the cap to bottle so you don’t lose the hydrostatic pressure. The cap is the weak link in the jug.
@jameskennedy6982
10 ай бұрын
Good video! Have been "experimenting " with the V-max in .223 and .22-250. They are incredibly accurate and terminal performance is nothing less than awesome. I agree with the writer who suggests to "cap" the bottles when filled with water....best example of hydrostatic pressure, also makes putting the pieces in the garbage bag easier!!! I shoot small plastic coke bottles at 300 yards....WOWZERS! Also, varmints are easier to digest for the scavengers!!:)
@brettjones9326
6 ай бұрын
Not a fan of the v-max in .223 fir coyotes but out of the 22-250 it's fine only draw back of the v max is they are explosive like they claim but sometimes coyotes will stay in hedgerows or a little brush and a peice of Timothy hay will explode a v max at any grain and for the. 223 I lost more coyotes from 30 yards to 200 with 55 and 50 grain v max they are just to big and too thick a hide in the northeast but they are accurate too
@JoDel-qam4u
10 ай бұрын
Well done! Amazing 22-250
@Warmspringsrezbuck
10 ай бұрын
I also have all 3 calibers and have used these bullets in all 3 but my favorite caliber has always been the .204 loaded with Reloader 10X and a 40 Gr Berger Bullet for coyotes, 1 hole I nothing coming out. Great video
@Skyhawks1979
11 ай бұрын
Would have been interesting to see the 40 grain VMax in all three rifles.
@billdlyaegra9394
5 ай бұрын
i am not a varmint hunter, but if i was to get into it i believe your video points me to the .223 in a gas gun! the other 2 cartridges are both more expensive and harder to find.
@bradgriffith4231
2 ай бұрын
Me too but I do have a very nice bolt action 223 & another in 17 Remington. The 17 is actually a better round than the 204 when comparing a 30 gr in the 17 to the 32gr in the 204
@kevingaddis7276
10 ай бұрын
I love my 204 , load all my own . At 300 yards i can cover a 3 shot group with my thumb.
@donbenson5292
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Glad you went 300 yards. With different impact areas if the 32 gran was to hit center it probably would have resulted in the same lack of through penetration. In gallon jug a 30gr Berger MEF out of a 17 Rem does the same thing. These bullets are indicative of shots on groundhogs. One hole and mush inside! Thanks for a great video.
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Benson for your kind words and for sharing the additional knowledge on the 17 Rem 30gr berger.... Much appreciated.
@mikesanders5682
5 ай бұрын
I wish you would have done a mulligan on the 204 as the first shot was not ideal to get a better comparison
@lifted_above
Жыл бұрын
I've shot a 40gr Speer soft point from a .220 Swift at about 40 yards at a 1gal water bottle. Loads were about 4200 fps rated. Cloud of mist and flatted plastic debris in a 30 foot circle.
@donbenson5292
11 ай бұрын
Had to comment on the 220 Swift, with 55gr Btips at 75 yards I shot a starling once. Beak was all I found intact. I wonder if "vaporized" is the terms to use... lol
@ltp1reno
11 ай бұрын
I shot a mule deer at 400 yards with a 70 gr. Spitzer and dropped where he was standing. I love the Swift
@thesheepman220
9 ай бұрын
@@ltp1renowhat twist rate do you have in your swift , I have a ruger no 1 , with 1-14 twist
@Auroras11
4 ай бұрын
Dido for my 22-250!
@infidel202
3 ай бұрын
😂@@donbenson5292
@JAKE3914
9 ай бұрын
Fascinating data!! Great job!
@Ammo08
3 ай бұрын
You need a 220 Swift...cool video.
@bobcatforever3485
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, good and interesting video. Also, great long-range shooting. Thanks for sharing and for all your work in making this video. Take care.
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Thanks as always for your encouraging words. Much appreciated.
@normanmallory2055
3 ай бұрын
I have used the fine 22/250 ctg for over 40 years with impressive results ! 14 years ago I started with the .223 ctg and have been very happy with the results ! I use the V Max bullet in both ! Around 11 years ago I added the very fine Nosler Ballistic Tip with excellent results and accuracy !
@ross7684
4 ай бұрын
I wonder how the Ruger round would have looked had you hid the bottle center on like the other two rounds. My thought is that the deflecting .204 round tore open the bottle like a can opener where it might have looked more like the other two if you had hit bottle center.
@joseph-zr1xn
Жыл бұрын
Finally a show that doesn't shoot them at 100 yards like everyone does
@nohillforahighstepper
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I need to correct a misconception though... Twist rates: 1:14 is not a faster rate than 1:8. Let me explain. You are turning the bullet 1 full rotation in a specific length. 8" is shorter than 14". So that bullet has to turn faster to make 1 full rotation in 8" than it does in 14". When you multiply the speed of the bullet, that is where the twist speed comes into play. Because the 22-250 is traveling considerably faster, it leaves the barrel faster. So, it is actually spinning faster than the .223 bullet but NOT because of the twist rate. It is due to the speed at which the bullet leaves multiplied by the twist rate. If we look at 223 twist rates, 1:7 will be faster spinning than 1:8. Same bullet speed but you are making 1 full turn in a shorter distance. I hope I explained that well enough...
@bradgriffith4231
2 ай бұрын
It's all about RPM. To make the math simple, a bullet at 3000fps with a 12" twist would be 3000rps or 180,000rpm. 8" twist at 3000fps would be right at 5000rps or 300,000rpm
@goawaybaizuo
Жыл бұрын
Just found your videos looking for SFAR videos. I have to say these are fantastic! I love the breakdown and also how you touch on BC and spin. I would love to see 223/5.56 test with, say, 4 different popular loads. Something like 55gr, 62gr, 69gr, and 77gr. Maybe even some of the lightweight 50gr. Also, do you a 300 blk you could test at say 100 yards? Either way, you got a new sub and I REALLY appreciate the fine content!
@ryandrakes9925
Жыл бұрын
Fine shooting. Hornady seems to make very good Bullets for all platforms.
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Drakes for the encouraging words. Much appreciated.
@BIG-DIPPER-56
Жыл бұрын
Very Good ! ! ! I'm so glad I found you - EXCELLENT, THANKS ! ! 🙂😎👍
@outdooradventures1696
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words. Much appreciated
@sugargoldy
Жыл бұрын
Good video thank you for sharing
@mercury8180
6 ай бұрын
I have 17hmr which has been great out to 200yds but iam now looking to add a caliber for longer ranges. So far i have been best impressed with the 204ruger due to its speed and flat shooting and versatile bullet choice. To me it done the most damage in your test.
@blackhawk7r221
6 ай бұрын
Are you hunting or simply shooting?
@bradgriffith4231
2 ай бұрын
The 223 has a much better bullet selection than the 204 & several bolt action 223s have a 9" or faster ROT so they will shoot bullets up to 70grs pretty well. Long for caliber & the heavier the better for long range but something in a 24 caliber is even better. This is the reason most Precision Rifle guys shoot 6mm Dashers. The 243 Win is good but the ROT is too slow in factory rifles to stabilize the best 6mm bullets.
@michaelhoneycutt7138
3 ай бұрын
I like my .204. I use a 40 grain. I had a group at 300 yards couldn't get a quarter between them. Very fast. Crazy the .204 had more impact.
@charliebelle6693
Жыл бұрын
Use a 40 grain in all three. They all should be able to stabilize that weight.
@dansherwood9851
10 ай бұрын
I have all 3 and although my 22.250 holds my record on prairie dogs at 720 yards, my favorite is still the 204 due to speed, lack of recoil and ability to keep target viewed in scope much easier. Availability and price it has become the loser in that department.😢
@jimgordon3206
9 ай бұрын
Why do you shoot prairie dogs? If you don’t eat them you should leave them in peace. Do you eat them?
@MrCora1212
8 ай бұрын
@@jimgordon3206lol 😆
@craigsellier5973
6 ай бұрын
Wow, 720 yards that's amazing.
@craigsellier5973
6 ай бұрын
@@jimgordon3206because of the destruction they do to farms. Cattle step in the holes and break their leg and tractors tear up equipment hitting the holes. A lot of people I know do eat the one's they shootnof coarse they use different caliber rifle's and the one's that eat them they don't blow them up too bad and mostly head shots.
@ronniepirtlejr2606
11 ай бұрын
4067 fps is smoking fast! That is 2,773 mph . Faster than the SR-71 Blackbirds top speed of 2685 mph 👍🇺🇸
@outdooradventures1696
11 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Pirtle for the additional perspective.
@johnblackbird7523
11 ай бұрын
I'd probably go with the 204
@Matt-tt2br
2 ай бұрын
Naah
@Lucas-nh2mk
9 ай бұрын
I do 3680fps / 55 grs with my 22-250❤
@johndenham9999
Жыл бұрын
Good job. Thanks
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Denham for taking the time to watch the video and for your kind words. Much appreciated. :)
@stephenburton3829
10 ай бұрын
very interesting video. thanks! For future, maybe try some 30 cal stuff.. say 308 using speer 130g TNT or 125g TNT. or 30-30 using hornady FTX, 7.62x39 150g or 125g soft point..
@mdsouz
11 ай бұрын
Corpsmen always say "good thing our grunts aren't on the receiving end of the 5.56mm" 🤩⚓🇺🇸
@steveshoemaker6347
3 ай бұрын
Thanks very much.... Old F-4 2 FIGHTER JET SHOE🇺🇸
@jdmbraceyourself695
7 ай бұрын
I love the vmax
@perlindqvist3003
11 ай бұрын
Good job! Regards from Sweden
@outdooradventures1696
10 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated.
@DuneWest
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video...nice chrono test and water jug/projectile results @ 300-yds...but I do not recall you ever mentioning what rifles you were using and/or barrel lengths, etc. I only remember something you said about a "gas gun" with the .223 Rem. ....The .223 Rem V-Max ammo had an advertisement on the box of 3240-fps out of the muzzle... your chrono was only showing 3055-fps at that time which is a little low for a 55-grain projectile out of a .223----that's why it is important for your audience to know the type of rifle and barrel length. I am kind of assuming your "gas gun" is maybe an AR-15 platform with 16" barrel using the .223 V-Max ammo used ???
@johnparker9139
Жыл бұрын
I’ve used the 223 55 v max on eastern ground hogs and very rarely have an exit
@michaelreed9805
11 ай бұрын
Round "spin" is a huge factor when the weight is optimal
@gamalielmelgoza3367
6 ай бұрын
Great video
@outdooradventures1696
6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Much appreciated.
@igy648
Жыл бұрын
Good video.
@outdooradventures1696
11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@panthermartin7784
11 ай бұрын
Setting the camera up beside the jug for slow mo viewing would have been a real treat!!
@rkba4923
10 ай бұрын
13:16 ish, Same bullet, two different cartridges. Looked to me like the 250 lifted the jug a couple inches higher too. Wonder what this would look like on 1 gal jugs.
@sevenin1
3 ай бұрын
Nice 👏👏👏
@PilotMcbride
Жыл бұрын
You’re an evil man, 😂😂😂 I called it here for the 250 but expected a bigger water spout. The v-max expand really early. On goats I’ve shot at around 300, on particularly hairy goats, they leave a massive entry hole, mush inside and no exit marks. They not so hairy suffer a not so massive entry but what appears to be bruising near where the exit would be expected. Medium pigs at around 200, same thing, explode on impact, nothing exiting. Shots on all animals were in the kill zone, not head shots. I actually didn’t expect any of the rounds to leave an exit hole, so you’d better do the 204 again just to put my mind at ease, 😂😂😂. And you didn’t weigh the recovered material? For shame mate, for shame, 😂😂😂, my head won’t sit straight on my shoulders until you do, 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for posting, cheers.
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Not so sure about the evil comment. Even the jury isn't convinced, and they have been out for 3 days now... As far as the 204, my early inclination was to wonder how much more of an explosion would it have made with a shot that was more centered. The video does not do justice to what it looked like in person. Then saw the other results and wondered. Sometimes we have to "believe the target" to quote a popular phrase. In other words, believe the target we do have, not the one we wished we had. Was short on time and needed to test the others. Already planning on doing it again and even have the box of ammo marked that provided those velocities. Thanks for liking the vid and for sharing your knowledge with us. We are better for having you as a subscriber.
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Also... Still have the water jugs in the same condition as in the vid. May still pour out the contents and check for weight. But that would mean spending time on giving you what you want rather than what you need. Please believe me when I tell you that the work is already under way to surpass what you saw in this video and the future presentations will be exactly what you need. Will try to give you what you want in time for the Holidays though. :)
@PilotMcbride
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Was a darn good demonstration of how those poly tips expend their energy. The 55s are pretty much my goto pill, out the barrel around 38. Zero at 275, +1.5 @ 100, +1.25 @ 200, -2 @ 300, MoA not inches. They lose velocity pretty quick. One division above & below, lol. I’d like to do similar at our range but a couple of low brow knuckle draggers shot up a few and left the range in a mess so the owner banned all unofficial targets not made of paper for all weapons. And knowing the recovered weight is absolutely vital for World security. We need to know. But if you haven’t got time, don’t worry, the cia will let us know, 🤣🤣🤣 Cheers.
@stephenwarren55
2 ай бұрын
This is a fairly conclusive test between the .223 and the 22-250. The 204 test comparison with the other two cartridges is flawed due to the errant 204 bullet placement.
@AlaskanBallistics
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting 4250 with a 40gr fmj in .22-250 barnes data 26" ar10
@AlaskanBallistics
Жыл бұрын
Good video
@outdooradventures1696
11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@RockinRack
2 ай бұрын
Interested in the 22 arc if i can get 22 250 like performance from a gas gun. A 204 arc would have been super cool
@poorfatman5317
Жыл бұрын
I'm Surprised by the results
@calvinwipf6592
2 ай бұрын
good Mathematics like it...great job
@250smacks
7 ай бұрын
My bergara 250 is a 1/9 twist and loves the 53 gr pills. 3680 fps from 35.5 gr varget. Coyotes don’t stand a chance
@taylorfritz3801
4 ай бұрын
I shoot 70gr Barnes tsx in mine and they're amazing on yotes!
@toddknecht2106
10 ай бұрын
You left out the 220 swift! Lol
@hyregeg9730
4 ай бұрын
Stock looks like a silver casket just like every one's interior in their cars and trucks
@TheMrwhite6199
Жыл бұрын
Awesome ..can you do 60 grain v max testing
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your encouraging words. Much appreciated. I believe that the 60 grain v-max test can be arranged. Is there a distance at which you think would be best?
@stephenembrey883
5 ай бұрын
You're on the right track, but water jugs don't tell you much especially when hitting different places. The test would be much more Valen if you use clay blocks, but you're off to a good start! A coyote would never know the difference.
@adamelam6385
Жыл бұрын
I've had a 22-250 and the .204 is cool but where I don't reload the .223 is the only way to go. Im not paying $40 a box for v-max.
@Poorsportsman
2 ай бұрын
Those varmint loads are frangibles, they deliver their power very quickly and dissipate with the pieces. Vid demostated how devastating the V Max is on varmints nicely.
@jeffreywilson690
11 ай бұрын
I like a fast wist 22/250
@kentyoder8614
10 ай бұрын
I Have Both 223 And 22/250 I Reload Both. I Have Heard For Years That The 22/250 Was Way Better Than 223. Well Im Hear To Say I Don't See It. They Are Both out Standing 22 Caliber Rounds. I Personally Think You Can Not Go Wrong With Either One, Although The 223 Might Be A Little Cheaper For Ammo.
@joelbartlett3053
3 ай бұрын
220 swift better round by far
@brianmartin3084
2 ай бұрын
You're absolutely right. In the real world there's very little difference
@AllThingsLoud_
Жыл бұрын
Now .222 Remington
@Rippinsmallies
2 ай бұрын
My T/C PRO HUNTER should get consistent 4000fps from a .204 it has a 28 inch barrel.
@jeff0nyschuk670
2 ай бұрын
The 204r is ok if there is no side wind,,But the 22-250 has a better chance in the wind 😀 I think anyway 🤔 I have all 3😊
@skipper9400
3 ай бұрын
you guys forgot one...that would be the 20 Vartarg.....my longest kill is 329 yards (with a Sig Rangefinder), on a Digger Squirrel....and it wasn't a fluke..the next round down the bbl took out his buddy @ 309 yds......3450 FPS with the 40 grain Hornady V-Max....and DEAD accurate...have it sighted on at 200yds, and the trajectory inbetween 50yds and 300 is hold-where-ya-wanna-hit ! ....and with only 17 grs powder, it doesn't wear the barrels out either...it's really the PERFECT varmint rifle.....OnWaard.........
@brianmartin3084
2 ай бұрын
Interesting, the 204 would be a complete miss on a groundhog at that distance. Pretty impressive on the water jug though.
@jeffreywilson690
11 ай бұрын
A friend of mine has killed a pile of white tail with the 204 with 45 grain sp
@michaelw.urbansr.8617
Жыл бұрын
I have ot say the 204 did surprise me. Although it seemed to have a lot of energy ,the fact that shot placement was a bit off ,may have been why it cuased so much damage to the jug it self? From what i have heard about 204 it will leave you with a clean "undamaged" pelt as it normally stays in the target and causes minimal damage to the pelts...... But i still feel for max stopping powe out of these three cartridges go's to the 223.....Although i really do like that 204!!!
@altonguis8870
4 ай бұрын
Cool video but maybe try this with non-fragmenting rounds....
@jeanettewest
Жыл бұрын
You should have added the .223 WSSM.
@MD-zd5so
10 ай бұрын
I'd like to see this with 556 instead of 223 .
@airair862
Жыл бұрын
7.62×54r vs 7.62×51 miron steel plate❤
@richardlucero3429
10 ай бұрын
I would like to see what a 22LR does to the water jug
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, at 300 yards it would poke a little hole in the jug once you finally got dialed in and hit it. No lift off. No splash. No nothing but a little leak.
@bradgriffith4231
2 ай бұрын
Nothing but a hole regardless of range.
@cavscout62
11 ай бұрын
You think that .204 is fast you should try the .220 Swift!
@radamson1
11 ай бұрын
Velocity seems to be the king again. Now let's hear from all of the velocity critics and their excuses.
@G53X0Y0Z0
10 ай бұрын
I have a .204 and 5.56 (same as .223 for most intents). I agree velocity cannot be understated, but the 22-250 was nearly as fast as the .204, I think the difference is where the bullets hit.
@columbotee2652
3 ай бұрын
Velocity trivia - at what velocity does ammo become armor piercing?
@craigpennington1251
10 ай бұрын
5 gallons water = 50LBS. of weight. Pus wt. of container. All of these calibers are lethal none the less. All will give a various ballistics on various bullet types used. All are good on deer, feral hogs, & big cats.
@bradgriffith4231
2 ай бұрын
5 gallons of water is 40lbs. Water weighs 8lbs per gallon, not 10. None are reliable deer rounds, nor feral hogs & big cats, especially with V-Max bullets. Coyotes is about the biggest critter an ethical hunter would shoot with any of the 3 rounds. I have killed a deer with a 223 handload, a 60gr bullet with a well placed shot at about 100yds. but it's really not a deer cartridge & several states have laws requiring a .225" minimum diameter bullet to prevent 22s being used for big game
@keithmilbradt8292
Жыл бұрын
Try it with 40 grain V max and see what happens!
@outdooradventures1696
Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the 40 grn v-max in 204 or the .233 40 grn v-max? 🤔👍
@mitchwoods5070
Жыл бұрын
Agree. The 32gr in 204 was the incorrect load to compare to. It should have been the 40gr.
@DUSTINFLOYD2
Жыл бұрын
Hornady 35 grain 22-250
@sethtenrec
11 ай бұрын
If you’re testing 223 don’t ignore 762 x 39
@jimmydickson6957
10 ай бұрын
220 swift
@AlaskanBallistics
Жыл бұрын
.223 vmax at 540 yards 55gr vmax acts like an fmj
@angelaprater2679
3 ай бұрын
22-250 hit harder and bottle went up higher to 223
@billmclaughlin8321
10 ай бұрын
now compare the 5.7x28 to the champion ?😉
@missey3164
10 ай бұрын
223 wssm enough said
@johndavis8626
11 ай бұрын
My pre 64 Winchester 220 swift does every thing I need to 500 yards I shot one of his horn off next time I made long range he was dead in just one second
@standupnow-bo3lr
2 ай бұрын
Well, using the hard plastic water jugs is hardly a representation of bullet performance on a live target. But, if you just want to get Some sort of cross-comparison, I guess it's valid for that.
@charlesmiles9115
10 ай бұрын
😛😛😛😛❤❤❤👍👍👍👍👍👍
@georgewalker4481
3 ай бұрын
I'd take the 204 over either one of those it did more damage
@robbieandbeckie
3 ай бұрын
204 wins!
@MJSE-of7gs
2 ай бұрын
As I choose not to shoot water jugs I am not sure what any of this means. Shooting an animal is not rocket science.
@outdooradventures1696
2 ай бұрын
I would be happy to heip with the "what any of this means" thoughts... May I ask you a question?
@MJSE-of7gs
2 ай бұрын
@@outdooradventures1696 Ask away kind sir.
@outdooradventures1696
2 ай бұрын
@MJSE-ofgs. When hunting animals have you considered what percentage of water they are? They are likely 65 to 75% water. In other words, it could be said that we are hunting hairy bags of water. Hope that helps a bit. Thank you again for the interest in the videos. Much appreciated. 🙂👍
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