I bought a bunch of cheap lee kit to get me started. Years later and I haven’t gotten around to buying anything better. I only load hunting ammo and they just keep on doing the job for me.
@6.5_shooter48
2 жыл бұрын
@@Alan.livingston Their stuff just works. The warranty and customer service is second to none as well. I have great confidence in the Lee products. I think people tend to over think hand loading when it comes to dies and equipment. I’ve made impacts on targets at 1 mile with my ammo loaded with a Lee press and dies. That’s good enough for me..
@therangersbulldogs6350
2 жыл бұрын
Lee is not expensive but ingenuis, their resizer (FL and also collet dies) are made to produce low runout, their FL have an expander which is in "high position" in the die and when it work in the collet the case body is still in the die, help to produce low runout. I have and I use also LE Wilson bushings dies, Redding type S(FL and neck dies), ... but I love my Lee resizer, they work great.
@jacksonthompson7099
10 ай бұрын
My first 7.62x54Rmm was a Lee die. I like it cause of how simple it is too use but I bent the decapping pin. I've done that twice with lee dies, I figured I had bottomed out the die but it also struggled to decap casings at least in a rockchucker press. Edit: after that happened I went with RCBS, aside from annoying looking shoulder dents from RCBS case lube it works great
@dahut3614
2 жыл бұрын
With a 29.5 grain H2O fired case volume, QuickLOAD says just under max 5.56 NATO pressure and 2790 fps with your 22.9 grain load of AR COMP.
@stevenbradley2245
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Lee dies. I think Lee products are responsible for bringing more people into this hobby than any other company out there.
@stevennewman4778
2 жыл бұрын
They are generally the most intelligently designed.
@Lone-Wolf87
2 жыл бұрын
I own Lee dies and I am very happy with them.
@granthamaker2745
Жыл бұрын
I think your barrel got to hot 10 shots that fast is not accurate reading. The barrel moves when that hit. So not a good test for dies. Stop about lee your a lee man. We get it
@tjvohs1
2 жыл бұрын
Lee can produce sub moa ammo, enough said.
@Finnbearl61r
5 ай бұрын
All day everyday..!
@PS-rr2jt
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget about Lee’s excellent customer service as well.
@mikemcallister9091
2 жыл бұрын
Amen.. send in a die get it back fixed or new.. Put it to the test a few times. No BS...
@PastaLaVista.
2 жыл бұрын
Not my experience. I had something that was supposed to have a machined hex bit in it so that an electric drill could accept it. It was only a hex on one half and seemed to not be machined at all on the other half. They made me pay shipping to get a replacement on the factory defect. I wasn’t too happy and am now very reluctant to get lee products
@garyjohns4711
2 жыл бұрын
LMAO the best group with cheapest die
@navionflyer
2 жыл бұрын
Lee has been making reloading equipment for a long time. They may be the least expensive, but they have learned how to do it at least acceptably for many people.
@riccochet704
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. You're not making very precise match rounds, but you can still make some very good performing rounds. And churn out some very decent plinking rounds. Which is a really good thing. The cheapest equipment does not produce bad results. For once. lol
@keithlucas6260
2 жыл бұрын
Parents bought me a complete RCBS reloading set with extra dies when I turned 12 for $25 at a yard sale (1968). Still have it, then bought a complete Lee set for a $100-ish back in 1998 so I didn't have to change out the dies when running 9mm, 45 LC or 303 British. Having two presses is close enough to having a "progressive" setup.
@OddBallPerformance
2 жыл бұрын
@@riccochet704 My Lee stuff produces more precise ammo than almost any off the shelf "match" box ammo for WAY less cost. I find it hard to complain.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
2 жыл бұрын
you would have to be benchresting a custom rifle to ever come close to exceeding the accuracy you can achieve with Lee dies.
@joeyoutdoors
Жыл бұрын
You should add the Lee Collet Die to the comps. I use it for all my calibers, amazing tool. Lee 223 Remington Collet Die Set includes a Collet Die that uses a collet to squeeze a mandrel creating a precisely aligned case neck while reducing run out,
@billyroy7309
2 жыл бұрын
Lee dies, robust, straight forward design and engineering that’s easily understood making them simple and intuitive to use with precise results. No gimmicks or trickery. Just an honest product at an honest price point with very little performance compromises. If point of impact performance is lacking, it ain’t the Lee dies.
@vicroc4
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I know several people that paid a lot more for their dies that can't get their ammo to shoot worth a damn. Your gun, your shooting ability, and your reloading techniques all make a lot more difference than your equipment.
@BattleChemist
2 жыл бұрын
Hell, yes! LEE has earned an appreciation moment. They have stood by their values of bringing decent quality to market at a reasonable price for the common man. They make reloading accessible to MANY more that see the entry to the hobby as price-prohibitive. Thanks so much for a nice video to go to bed to (I rewatch all the time as wind down videos) and fantastic shooting as always, good sir! Hope to buy you a drink some day.
@kimherrick9615
2 жыл бұрын
LEE makes Great stuff, I've used some high dollar equipment and I come back to LEE constantly. Very high value reloading tools.
@copewy22
2 жыл бұрын
Same, I have had fantastic results out of my Lee dies I have others and keep going back to the Lee's
@sallyann8971
2 жыл бұрын
I saw the warning. Don't copy blindly. Man my White Oak barrel runs so much faster than jrb'd . At least down south anyway. I can't touch the charges he uses. But what a rad video and I'll have to take your word on this stuff because I don't use mine for benchrest. My .8" groups run perfectly for scratching steel out to 700 so I just shoot what I can make consistent but drama free all at the same time
@sancharino4672
2 жыл бұрын
Thank the good lord you are back. The best channel on KZitem
@robertkras5162
2 жыл бұрын
Lee is inexpensive and innovative. In forums there are always folks ready to dump on lee and insist you need to spend 3 to 5 times more for a green or red brand name on the box... I'm glad Lee did so well.
@garyjohns4711
2 жыл бұрын
If you want to cool your barrel faster,l more even, lock the bolt back and stand your rifle vertical
@chasrmartel4777
2 жыл бұрын
Lee die guy since the late 80s. Formerly only RCBS but I've since tried Redding, Hornady and Forster. Lee products are always functional, well designed and fairly priced. This is what companies were like in Old America. Perhaps after the collapse of the Evil Empires' phony currency, an even better version of America (and its companies) will be born.
@reggaetonmasta
2 жыл бұрын
So ive started down this path as well. My best concentricity comes with lee decapping, annealing, hornady FL size body with innards out, sinclair mandrel, and then a forster bench rest seating die. I get about 0.001 of runnout.
@terrycostakis6284
2 жыл бұрын
I've been reloading for years using all brands of dies and equipment and have come to the conclusion that Lee makes equipment that is on par with almost anybody's. Maybe 10% of shooters can benefit from more expensive "precision dies". The rest of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Buying based on color or price is a waste of money.
@gunnyd9282
2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. Dead center!
@jdrollason
2 жыл бұрын
I am only 8 minutes into this video and I can tell that this one is going to be epic for this reloading nerd. I may have to go buy some new expander mandrels or possibly some new dies after this one. Thanks Johnny. Carry on. Carry on.
@philipscougale2075
2 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel good about buying all Lee dies for my first 3 cartridges, .223, .357 mag, and 30-40 Krag. 9mm is next on the list.
@OddBallPerformance
2 жыл бұрын
I use mostly Lee stuff and have yet to be disappointed. Not saying I don't have some other brands here and there, but I would have no problem replacing them with Lee stuff if I had to.
@willardlentz3044
2 жыл бұрын
@@OddBallPerformance I bought the Lee dies for my mosin and have brought my groups to 2" at 100yds with Speer Hot formed core bullets .311 150 gr but I am still testing
@rickleclair6781
Жыл бұрын
If someone was looking to justify their $120 sizing die, they will need to look someplace less honest!!! I'll take the Lee for $20 Johnny!!!!
@texpatriot8462
2 жыл бұрын
I wish LEE would come up with a micrometer adjustment add on like Hornady has for its rifle dies. A micrometer makes it so much easier to get things just “right.”
@larrymitchell3502
2 жыл бұрын
Discussed this with Lee via email. They told me 'No can do, other guys patented." News to me. Hornady, RCBS, Redding & Forster sell 'em. I got a big whiff of NIH (Not Invented Here). Scored the FA Universal Seating Die for $57 as an Amazon return pre-pandemic & have been pleased with it after minor mods: Filed index marks on the lock ring & under the index mark on the body to make lining up numbers easier; lubed the adj threads with HBN oil making adj much easier. Load multiple calibers no issue. I do keep a dummy round for every cartridge / bullet I load. Makes setting bullet depth faster & easier. adj.
@texpatriot8462
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrymitchell3502 There is no way there is a valid patent on micrometer that would prevent them from doing it. People have been using them in various tools for 100+ years.
@larrymitchell3502
2 жыл бұрын
@@texpatriot8462 Yeah, I know. Their reply was, imo, clearly "If we didnt come up with it, we ain't making it." Hence my Not Invented Here remark. Rather have 'em say "We're busy makin' OUR stuff." Started with Lee & use a lotta their products. Also RCBS, Hornady, Redding, Franklin Arsenal & NOE. Whatever seems best for what I wanna do at a fair price. The Lee 'dead length' seater stem is 18 tpi. About .005 -.007 is about the smallest change one can make. Not good enuf for Long Range (5-600 yds and up) imo - a change of .002 - .003 can shrink (or enlarge) groups. The FA Universal Seater can be accurately set down to .002 ime. Little fiddly changing from one caliber to another but it works. Having a dummy cartg for most bullets I load in each caliber lets me quickly dial it in when changing from .223 to .265 to .308. Would buy it again fer sure.
@mark120371
2 жыл бұрын
I have a pdf with temple I made that can make your one Micrometer for lee seating die. I seen a couple years ago on youtube and I just kind of redone it and made a temple and pdf file. It works well if setup correctly.
@LoanwordEggcorn
Жыл бұрын
@@texpatriot8462 More likely a Micrometer set up would simply add too much cost and raise the price too much for Lee's target market. Also would add complexity and support issues that a fixed die doesn't have. So pros and cons for both, and I can see a reason or two for Lee to not do it.
@brucepreston3927
2 жыл бұрын
Lee is the honda civic of the reloading world...I have some regular lee dies that out perform some of my $300 die sets! It really makes me stop and think before I go straight to the expensive stuff...
@charleswilson577
10 ай бұрын
With 308 my max runout is 001 max with Lee dies. Can't say enough good about lee.
@rotasaustralis
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Johnny, I've been using Lee gear for years & there's absolutely nothing wrong Lee equipment. No surprise to me dude. Absolutely nothing wrong with that rifle either. Since they're 10 shot groups, it is what is with no bullshit added in. I'd have no problem calling that a solid 1 MOA rifle which is more than most can say with their 3 & 5 shot groups. Great vid Johnny.
@RobsonEngineering
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a theory about bullets “going to sleep” after about 100 or 200 yards. The basic is that the bullet is still moving around a fair amount at 100 yards and some results can’t really be observed at that range. Try shooting at 200 yards and see what you get. Also, shoot the ammo according to the runout, ie 10 rounds of 0 thousandths, 10 rounds of 1 thousandth, etc. Lastly, IMO anything under about 3 thousandths of runout will be corrected by most rifle barrels; the bullets are dealing with a lot of pressure and tend to have weird harmonics and movements inside the barrel, enough that 1 or 2 thousandths will not make a difference. I think F-Class John or Mopar Man have done a similar test… maybe it was you I’m remembering… 🤷♂️
@HypocriticYT
2 жыл бұрын
I found powder choice in.223 making the most difference for accuracy. H335 was the worst and CFE .223 and IMR 3031 best with 55g and heavier. Some powder/ bullet combination would group 9 inches left, just nuts while my 55 VMax with IMR 3031 groups dead on well under 1moa
@JimyoVibration
Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has read Richard Lee knows he was the real deal.
@jaxwest6703
2 жыл бұрын
Like most of us I love accuracy, the quest for true flight has cost me a bundle. I've got more crap on my bench that sometimes I don't even remember, but Lee always has something I can count on. Sometimes keep it simple keep it basic. Good job Lee.
@aaron.from.winchester6744
2 жыл бұрын
I use a 21 Century .305 expander mandrel for my .308 and a .220 for my .223. I find I need a little more neck tension for semi-autos because of the violent action on the bcg slamming the round home. If you measure CBTO before and after a round is chambered. The bullet will move a couple of thous.
@gunnyd9282
2 жыл бұрын
I love Lee dies. They work great and half the price of some others. Haven't shot match since EAS. 1moa is good enough now.
@jonathanrogers9961
2 жыл бұрын
You need to do a test, but nothing to do with your dies. Load some ammo. Test the contrencity. Then chamber the rounds and test again without firing. Is bouncing off the feed ramp and into the chamber at high speed making your contrencity moot. Or perhaps shoot 2 groups, 1 from the magazine, one single feed.
@apfelsnutz
2 жыл бұрын
Lee is the greatest... Thanks for the video
@robertlangford1749
2 жыл бұрын
If you thank that the problem it heat you can check it by shooting 5 and Weight 15 minutes and shoot the next 5 I have done this and in my test it was the heat Builder up that made the Group open up
@biggabear8
2 жыл бұрын
the mighty Lee company comes on top again, a lot less money also.
@nt_wicked_bunch2717
2 жыл бұрын
Me JRB I noticed you don’t use your chamber chiller anymore, did I miss the video explaining why you don’t use it anymore? I chucked mine a while back and now I am using a modified air mattress pump. Cools it down in about half the time a chamber chiller did. kzitem.info/news/bejne/p5h6qp6mnGSKpH4
@Cotton088
2 жыл бұрын
I think that you just proved what I’ve been saying for years. I’ve been shooting tiny groups with Lee for years. The anal reloaders try and make it more complicated than what it needs to be
@elvisammo
2 жыл бұрын
I always find myself rooting for the underdog… with that said, letting the brass dictate the path always seems like the best idea for center. A little give in the die, a little give in the shell plate. I’m not sure we can create better alignment on our own. Just my Philosophy. For example, sometimes I see my Turret on my press move ever so slightly when I run my case into the die. I have always seen this as a good thing? IDK. Always a pleasure Johnny! 👍
@edwardanderson6152
2 жыл бұрын
Lee die set are the right price, and they work. I use them for both rifle and pistol, Lee reloading manual has the most load of all the reloading manuals.
@chrisw2907
2 жыл бұрын
Go lee. I use only the Lee die for 6mm ARC. Every other die I have used destroys lapua and other thick 6.5 Grendel conversion brass. I have the Lee, Hornady, rcbs small base. The Lee always fits the brass the best. Although the Hornady 6mm ARC brass sizes well in the hornady die. But any 6.5 Grendel brass gets seriously bent up, which makes me cringe when using lapua 6.5 Grendel. Thanks for the video. Also for the 223 I always use the hornady set and have never had a problem with accuracy. Also I agree with shooter fatigue, also could be dirty barrel. Thanks dude. Ps do you ever use Norma powders? Such as 202 or 203b? I have heard 203b is Reloader15.
@redleg1013
2 жыл бұрын
When setting up dies in my RCBS (before I ditched it for the Forster) I followed Dillon's advice and ran a sacrificial case up into the die body to set up sizing, and before lowering the ram, tighten the lock ring while everything was centered up.
@nicsu2128
2 жыл бұрын
One of the purposes of the mandrel dies is cases are more rigid when pushing down on them, Vs pulling up through them. Supposed to allow for a more consistent shoulder bump.
@seanmtactical6069
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely saw it was the last five bullets in the groups that were opening them, even said I had to comment on it before your video points it out. Who built your upper? Did they bed/shim the barrel into the upper? If your upper isn't a thermal fit upper (which the AP Enhanced are not), there is enough room between the barrel extension and the upper barrel thread area that as heat is transferred into the aluminum of the upper it expands and allows for too much movement in between the two. Bedding the barrel or using steel sheet shim to take up that extra space drastically effects stability in that that area. It's the most crucial area to stay stable during thermal change. As long as the barrel extension/upper fit isn't drastically sloppy, you should be able to bed the extension with Locktite 620, clean off any residual, re-torque the barrel with Aeroshell 64 on the threads. Let it dry for a couple days and then retest. OR, buy an upper that will thermal fit the barrel extension; BCM, SOLGW, Zev, Mega, Triarc, any other Zev manufactured upper. They all need to be heated with a torch to get the barrel into the upper. Either of these will get rid of the potential your barrel is moving in the upper.
@orangerider2827
2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this thermal fit upper. That makes complete sense to me. I want to look into that process more with loctite my question to you is what if I wanted to remove the barrel later what would I do then? By the way thank you for posting this information. I've always used aero precision uppers so I thought that's how it was supposed to be. Thank you for this. Very interesting and eye opening for me anyways.
@seanmtactical6069
2 жыл бұрын
@@orangerider2827 you heat the upper up after disassembly and removing the barrel nut. 620 will get brittle and release. Thermal fit uppers you do the same. The aluminum expands and releases the barrel extension.
@thomasstaples
2 жыл бұрын
Using 609 works also. Ive even used blue LOCtite, which is more than ok. I also use a receiver lapping tool to ensure a perfect fit between the receiver to the barrel.
@thomasstaples
2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention the couple other things I do to help with consistency and accuracy. I “tune” gas tube for as little contact as possible with the gas key and I use enhanced bolt carriers, specifically the ones with enlarged rear portion to limit slop and reduce carrier tilt within upper. There’s a few different brands out there but I use a sharps rifle company Bcg in my main rifle and recently bought the cmc which is designed for short barrels and or suppressor use
@orangerider2827
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for the information and help!
@justinvandee9428
2 жыл бұрын
Was shoulder bump the same for all?
@FullSendPrecision
2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it's barrel heat. We shoot 20 shot strings in july... If it's heat, you're not in a good node. I'd bet it's an artifact of mag feed. Measure your tenth bullet before you fire it... I bet it's got a longer OAL than when it went into the mag.
@cademarti1365
2 жыл бұрын
Highly doubtful. .002 neck tension is enough to hold that bullet in the neck while pushing it against a reloading bench with ALOT of hand force and not push the bullet in. Been there, tried it. They shouldn't move from lack of tension
@josephr2766
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe do the test again but with two five shot groups instead of one ten shot group. Plus bring the barrel cooler fan thing back.
@iancurrie8844
2 жыл бұрын
outstanding video. thank you! I would have loved for RCBS dies to be included here.
@MMBRM
2 жыл бұрын
Well, there's definitely something physical going on as there's a significant point of impact shift to the left as well. My guess is either barrel heat or fouling being the cause. The fact that the second half is typically the culprit leads me to believe it's most likely the barrel heat. One way you can get around this is by shooting one shot from each test group after the other. This also accounts for changes in fouling.
@aaron.from.winchester6744
2 жыл бұрын
My experience is I get vertical stringing when my bbl gets hot. Not saying yours is not but I thought I would share.
@buddy22801012
2 жыл бұрын
All my reloading equipment is Lee I’ve been completely satisfied with all the Lee products Absolutely the best value in reloading equipment. I’ve helped friends reload with more expensive bands but I haven’t found any brand that performs better .
@upnorthreloading2214
2 жыл бұрын
I just did something similar with my new Semi-Custom 7x57, although I just showcased the groups and prints on paper and didn't delve into the run-out numbers. I can share that my redding die set had the worst run-out, but ended up shooting one of the better groups. Conversely, my Lee die set had average run-out, but shot the overall worst group, though not by much --- however, it should be noted that my Lee expander ball had only 0.001" of neck tension, unless the 0.002" that the rest had, and that is enough to make a difference. This was a great video, I love ones like this.
@Dustysa4
2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar experience with 223 in my WOA upper. I've got a few different 223 sizing dies (Lee FL, Lee Collet, Forster FL, Redding Body). I saw no improvement splitting up operations. I saw negligible improvement using Forster over Lee. I do use a fancy micrometer seating die, but I see no reason to get anything other than a Lee FL sizer for 223. I think maybe WOA's 223 Wylde chamber just likes a Lee FL resize.
@ctandsonsoutdoors7180
2 жыл бұрын
Just about all my dies are lee. They just work.
@keitha.9788
2 жыл бұрын
Very Interesting comparison!! I shoot .223 and use Lee dies. I've found that with my old Browning .223 Varmint w/BOSS-CR, my groups seem to expand as the barrel heats. I've got to play with the BOSS-CR a bit more, it does definitely affect my shooting....
@jamespugh
2 жыл бұрын
Lee has made some awesome stuff jrb over years think ur channel shows it. Some of those groups are pretty good. Think shooter fatigue plays into it as well as barrel heat.. Was reloading 243win when watching this.
@tires2burn
2 жыл бұрын
Lee are my go to dies for everything I load. Thanks for this comparison.
@rider547
2 жыл бұрын
I also use Lee dies and have been very satisfied. About half way through the range test, I was wishing you had five more rounds from the Lee die you could shoot last to compare to the first ten. I was wondering about barrel fouling as well as heat. Great video!
@Jaygorski
2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting less than.001" runout with 53MKs, Hornady brass and Redding dies, but with Barnes VLC bullets up to .003" runout. Runout doesn't matter.
@travisweldmaster7815
2 жыл бұрын
Yes lee thank you for keeping redding and rcbs and hornady(ect) in line and great cheap products
@billprice6248
11 ай бұрын
lee dies are undertested .they work well.
@ewathoughts8476
2 жыл бұрын
The closer the freebore portion of the throat is to the bullet diameter the less runout matters. The freebore section will align the bullet with the rifling and bore. Prior to firing it is the bullet shank in the freebore that aligns the forward end of the cartridge, not the shoulder and case neck. If you had a Mauser style throat (no freebore) then runout would be more of an issue.
@davebone8326
2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest barrel heat is the problem IMO. Needing a lot longer to cool down , having said that LEE dies have always worked extremely well for me.
@j45acp69
2 жыл бұрын
L.E. Wilson bushing type Sizer dies, you will never look back, hands down the best sizing dies once set up properly....
@mojo7004
2 жыл бұрын
Lee dies are an incredible value, and the company has top notch customer service. I don't remember which part or even which caliber, but at one point in the last year, I had a part break in a Lee die. So I went to their website and searched for it, and when I saw the prices, I was astonished. The part was like 85 cents and it was in stock, so I searched the price list and bought a bunch of spare parts (may have been decapping pin or expander that broke). When I got the confirmation email, somebody in Customer Service wrote a note personally, saying they assumed I was having breakage issues with my dies since I was ordering multiples of so many small parts, so they went ahead and added an extra of every part that I ordered multiples of - for FREE - now that's Customer Service! I do have a small criticism of this test though. The Redding should get a disclaimer or at least an asterisk added. Every other die was given less of a shoulder bump than the Redding, and as we all know, when you resize, that brass goes somewhere. I don't know many loaders who would not make an adjustment at 5 thousandths shoulder bump, when they are targeting 2-3 thousandths. Come on Johnny, keep it fair across the board.
@DarkLurker_69
2 жыл бұрын
I've got the Mighty Armory decapper and that thing runs great. I have it on a cheap Lee press just for decapping, and it chews through anything. I don't have any dies from MA though, too rich for my needs, the $40 Lee set does well enough for as bad of a shot as I am.
@miguelperaza6615
2 жыл бұрын
Now , this is very very impormant to all of us , I happen 2 have rcbs dies for 223. Now , if I full size 5.56 in my die. Will I convert that 5.56 into a 223 ?
@charleywalker2982
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and keep your videos coming please.
@jordanhays732
2 жыл бұрын
Hey JRB I found some full copper/brass bullets that has less engraving pressures, made by hammer bullets. The one I’m talking about is the line of bullets called absolute hammer. The website says due to the bullet construction the projectile stays more uniformed while traveling down the barrel. And since your getting less pressure it needs a faster powder and can achieve higher velocities than typical bullets designs. Check it out bud
@frankkalisz7455
2 жыл бұрын
I also had great luck with 110 Hammer Hunters on my 6.5CM. I used IMR4064 which is a bit fast for 6.5CM, and I had it running 3070fps with no pressure sign. They were accurate with great terminal performance on hogs
@LeewardStudios
2 жыл бұрын
I have Lee and Redding .223 die sets. I have never had a stuck case with the Lee but several on the Redding. I stick with the Lee. Not going for great groups but have been solid and consistent.
@jerrysnyder9388
2 жыл бұрын
Heat is the killer. I use a chamber cooler between sets. Lowers the temp of the barrel considerably
@BigRob345
2 жыл бұрын
I've got a Lee FL 308 die that won't bump the shoulder back! I won't buy another Lee rifle die set
@maxtheroofer8004
2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if shoulder bump had any effect, either way good informative video. i currently use an rcbs FL sizing die, with the exander ground down to .300, i then finish the neck sizing with a exander mandrel die 2 thou under (.306). i am having issues with SD and ES numbers though
@GB-zi6qr
2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried adjusting seating depth to see if that affects SD and ES? I've only just recently been able to pick up a chronograph. Now I'm stashing nickels and dimes for a bullet comparator set. I've found that projectiles can vary by as much as .005" in length due to meplat (bullet tip). I believe Johnny has done a comparison of seating depth.
@ApertureDG
2 жыл бұрын
When I entered into the hobby, I bought LEE single stage challenger reloading kit. Then I've exchanged it to Hornady Iron Press kit, but some time after I understood that it won't gave me anything extra for the extra price. So, now I'm back to LEE, and I love it.
@crossan008
2 жыл бұрын
Love my lee dies! When we getting more 6 ARC? Just got my 18” Proof barrel
@ronkellam8184
2 жыл бұрын
I would suggast sizing without the expander in the die and expand the neck in a separate operation. Pushing the expander into the case seems to give better results than pulling it out from inside the case. I use Redding dies and it is easy to remove the decapping stem and replace it after sizing. In my limited tests the runout was less just checking the case runout using the push in method. It's a different method and maybe worth a try.
@fredbarney4525
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, so where do you buy new unfired Lake City brass? I’ve looked everywhere but can only find once (supposedly) fired brass. Please help 😩
@Oculi_tui_vitare
2 жыл бұрын
Colleagues laugh at me for using only lee and rcbs dies kits. For them exist only redding. I will send them a link to your channel.
@aaron.from.winchester6744
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Johnny! Can you make a video on what to look for when a case should be culled?
@YukarisGearReviews
2 жыл бұрын
Too hot. 22.4 grains of AR-Comp does it for me, and my batch of powder is a touch on the slow side.
@jwilsonhandmadeknives2760
2 жыл бұрын
agreed. 21.5 of AR comp with a 77 SMK is my load out to 600 yards.
@C_Moore
2 жыл бұрын
don't load Hornady bullets or equipment until they change their stance to stand up for freedom!
@mitchculpepper738
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe heat is an issue but this is great shooting! Johnny is shooting a semi auto rifle, ten shot groups, and still shoots 3 out of 5 under one inch, with the other two only 1/10th of an inch over! The average shooter couldn’t do that with 3 shot groups in a bolt action rifle! Love your channel and all ways learn something new, even if it’s that I have a lot of catching up to do! Living vicariously through JRB while I can’t get primers? You bet!
@joshjohnson1653
2 жыл бұрын
Lee is what I started with. All my best loads have been done with them.
@allenarneson4349
2 жыл бұрын
Johnny - Thanks for all of these 223 videos. I am not as good a shot as you, but my results with Lee dies, H335 (25.0gr) and either Bob's bullets (55gr) or Hornady bullets (55gr) get me in the 1 inch to 1.25 inch MOA groupings. I always seem to mess up a shot or two, but man - I'm very happy with my results. Thanks again for ALL of your hard work!!! One last thing - Like you, as my 18 inch White Oak barrel heats up (15-20 rounds) the spread of shots does occur. I just like shooting so much, that letting the barrel cool down is a little trying...
@HypocriticYT
2 жыл бұрын
Stuck case I put the casing head in a strong vice and turn the die and the case becomes loose, then tap the die to remove the case from expander
@montecalfas5723
2 жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the 20" barrel? Did I miss something?
@sherrypulec1449
2 жыл бұрын
SD numbers seam good enough, barrel harmonics shifting as the barrel heats up, spreading the pattern outward? makes you wonder what it would do without the can on it.
@christophermasternak3201
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. You made my first .223 loading project, mk 262 mod 1, fun and Really helped a newbie reloader like me feel safe, your first few shots of your own reloads can feel a bit hairy. That was a little over a year ago. I use a RCBS Small Base Sizer in .223 (p/n 11131) it has a carbide neck expander and I can't recommend it enough. Got a Redding Competition bullet seating die (p/n 55111) now and am going for long range. From what I have been told the runout becomes an issue. When your going way past 100 yards, I'll see soon. Thanks again, now the other people in my life know who Johnny is, ha.
@rman713
2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who hears “cider” instead of “sighter” every time?
@bubba6945
2 жыл бұрын
you ever check the run out off the neck and compare to the bullet run out results when seated
@TMS5100
2 жыл бұрын
Runout doesn't matter at all. This has been exhaustively tested.
@hleigh842
2 жыл бұрын
I have spent a shameful amount of money experimenting with different brand dies and I learned many lessons along the way. One of those lessons was that the Lee FL sizing die is hard to beat at any price and has earned full membership to the Reloading Die Hall of Fame. I have found that each brand has at least one die or one feature that outshines its competitors in that respective area. Competition and the free market bring out the best in all of us.
@jeffhuntley2921
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had good luck with lee also. Most of my shooting is plinking so the price is always right
@FLIGHT762
2 жыл бұрын
My accurate load with the Hornady 75 OTM without cannelure is 22.5Gr. AR Comp. R/P brass & R/P 7 1/2 or a Federal AR primer. Rainier arms Ultra Match 18" SPR Barrel . I also use the Mighty Armory 223 Die.
@dahut3614
2 жыл бұрын
Spend your money on your barrel, not your resizing die. Got it!
@chrisglover7080
2 жыл бұрын
Wow 2 video's in a week! Johny must be being nice this week and its allmost 40 min what did we do to deserve this? what ever it was i hope we do it again
@josephlong7420
2 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of Lee dies. Most of the die sets I have are Lee. The primary reason is I am a cheapskate. I believe that most of us that are into reloading are a bit spendthrift and we like to make tiny groups. Regardless of the sizing die, I wouldn't snease at any of those groups. Stay free and keep your powder dry.
@GB-zi6qr
2 жыл бұрын
Value...value shopper. Good price to performance us what we look for. ;)
@wilkskothmann6973
2 жыл бұрын
Stuck a case for the first time earlier today in my lee 204 die. Got it out before seeing this video doing what you just described haha
@paulharveu526
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a 38 min video.
@thompsonjerry3412
2 жыл бұрын
Lee sizing die, no expander, and the Lee neck collet die?
@MM.308
10 ай бұрын
Been using Lee dies since 2010 and never been anything but impressed with how well they load.
@MM.308
10 ай бұрын
Excellent video by the way sir. 👍🏻
@kriszml
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a good video. Lee is a great company. Some bits are great and others are usable and cheap. The case length gage is cheap and the best way to trim. I have great experience with Lee's customer service and I leave in Europe. When I had a problem with my load master and the powder measure they sent me all the parts I needed to Europe. I can not say the same thing for RCBS. I contacted the customer service because of my rock chucker supreme press and no anwser. I would not buy anything from that company. Maybe next time you could check the runout of the cases before seating. That would give you better information I think. Again, Thanks for a great video.
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