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@ComtedeMonteC
7 жыл бұрын
I have been studying Korean for two years and begin an intermediate course next year. While this video is useful for me it is definitely not "absolute beginner" level.
@fluffysugakookies9580
5 жыл бұрын
true
@만렙-e9k
5 жыл бұрын
LMAO RIGHT WTF
@carinalopez6658
5 жыл бұрын
So frustrating...😑
@rohrichbeau1004
5 жыл бұрын
Korean kids learn English as the same level as those conversation in their 14 years old.
@brucelee1048
5 жыл бұрын
yeah, I am kinda of absolute beginner, started korean 2 month ago and this is defenetely not absolute beginner
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard
7 жыл бұрын
I thought "absolute beginner" would mean: "Someone who has no idear about Korean, but knows some words" and not: "You are actually sitting in Korea now, ordered a meal in a restaurant in Korean and don't know how to buy a car or get a Job in Korea" -.-
@sohsaraaa
6 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA thats me right now - i'm in korea for exchange and i can order a meal in restaurant but my korean knowledge isnt enough for me to understand what people are saying in the lift. This one is definitely an upper beginners though, i had to listen 3 times to catch the vocab and realise what they are saying
@kkochkk
5 жыл бұрын
AHAHA XD
@ashy._._
5 жыл бұрын
BIG FAT MOOD OMG.
@nicoleraheem1195
4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@oxanabaghdadi1707
4 жыл бұрын
Gosh yes!!! This is no way absolute beginner!!
@bano363
7 жыл бұрын
Very useful, thank you! Not really 'absolute beginner' material though, more like upper beginner level.
@emmalopez5730
3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@laurynd5399
6 жыл бұрын
I listened to this video about half a year ago and it was so hard but I decided randomly to come back to it and it was so easy that I didn’t even have to try 😂 I hope that gives you guys confidence to keep studying haha 너무 쉽네~~ 이 비디오를 6개월 전에 들었는데 그땐 너무 어려웠어.... 근데 이제 이해가 났어
@zippyyourmouthy1587
5 жыл бұрын
For how long have you been studying/learning korean?
@Ocoromusic
5 жыл бұрын
'이해가 됐어' 가 더 정확합니다. 그래도 한국말 너무 잘하시네요~
@zippyyourmouthy1587
5 жыл бұрын
@@Ocoromusic what 😢😢😢
@Ocoromusic
5 жыл бұрын
@@zippyyourmouthy1587 I, for some reasons, just went out of my way and help Lauryn D with the Korean sentence they wrote. I'm sorry to have confused you!
@zippyyourmouthy1587
5 жыл бұрын
@@Ocoromusic do you know Korean 😆😆
@weraasher8018
6 жыл бұрын
It's like low intermediate. If you could understand the things they say, but couldn't know some words like i couldn't, then you should work on stuff like colors, numbers, clock, food, etc. I got the sentence patterns but i couldn't understand what they're exactly talking about. I was just suggesting. 😅 But this is a nice and fun way to study!
@TheMarianaQuintero
5 жыл бұрын
Same... 😂😂
@salomelau
5 жыл бұрын
Haha I'm the opposite! I understand some key words and just a little bit of the sentence structure but can't form sentences >
@shineecrystal
4 жыл бұрын
omg same
@justarussian8714
4 жыл бұрын
나도이렇게 생각했는데요
@강민철평균
4 жыл бұрын
@@BorahB 네 나도 같은생각입니다 이거겠지
@MrsYouAnni
7 жыл бұрын
this is absolute beginners? than what am i? TT
@MzCelticsChik9
7 жыл бұрын
You will quickly be able to catch on with some consistency.
@lightweyt9530
7 жыл бұрын
ItsMe Annika youre not even born yet
@ACEsParkJunheeWreckedMeHard
7 жыл бұрын
Onlything I can say in Korean is: "Hello. My name is (name). Nice to meet you!", "Very nice swimmingpool", "I am German", "You're an idiot/ Yo're stupid!" and "Stop it!"... and than I know some random words like: radio, banana, so, gae, maekju, soju, pang, bang and I can count to 5 in both countingsystems... ah this video confused me as I klicked on it. I thought it will come up an audio oor something where you see 3 ways to write and have to guess which is right and than they show you if your right and what it means^^
@moonchild708
7 жыл бұрын
Once you Jimin you can't Jimout! Very nice swimming pool 😂
@moonchild708
7 жыл бұрын
Once you Jimin you can't Jimout! I can say 'Hello. My name is Kyla. Bangtan Sonyeondan. Bang bang bang. Point, aim, shoot. My blood, sweat, and tears. I miss you.' edit: 2 months later and i can count to 3, say 'stop', 'fool', 'yes/no', 'please/thank you', 'forget it', 'as if it's the last', 'i don't want to cry', 'i like you', and 'Cleopatra: the world's best potato chip'. edit: over a year later and i still haven't made progress but wow was i sooo cringey back when i was a new army 😂. i understand so much more - i just need to learn the vocab but i'm recognizing the sentence structure and such.
@oo-zi7cp
6 жыл бұрын
Guys I am Korean and this listening is so bad cuz the tone of conversation is so weird and awkward. And 죄송합니다 is not excuse me. That is I’m sorry And excuse me is 실례합니다
@brookethomas9598
5 жыл бұрын
It depends on the context. She could mean sorry for bugging you, apologetic about asking a question.
@morphidae
5 жыл бұрын
@@brookethomas9598 Dude the guy is korean.
@user-mz9mk4cn4w
5 жыл бұрын
Gabriela Velasco bro, there are still different ways to say «excuse me» in korean
@Serendipityismy
5 жыл бұрын
Brooke Thomas lol he is korean .,.
@yuikoo0613
5 жыл бұрын
right? i was like “what??” cause i though “저기요” was excuse me
@violetviolet78
7 жыл бұрын
I am upper beginner in Korean. This was hard, though.
@mariaangeltabordaalvarez5580
3 жыл бұрын
como va tu coreano? han pasado 3 años
@IllegalInAmsterdam
6 жыл бұрын
Just for context, guys, I've been self studying Korean for around 6 months and I understand around 90-95% of this video. When I first watched it I understood pretty much nothing. I should also point out I've listened to this video probably around 100-200 times over the past 6 months (without reading any of the translations, English or Korean - JUST listening) and slowly picked up a word or two used in the video each time I listened. On the segments where I just can't figure out what the hell they're saying, I'll come back and read the translations (the male voice actor talks a lot faster than the woman and he sometimes slurs words like 토요일 and 시작 etc). If you're new to Korean, don't let the title mislead you - this is NOT for absolute beginners. It took me 6 months to get to this level. Just know that if you keep at it and don't expect too much too quickly, you will get the most out of this video.
@mimihua2
4 жыл бұрын
What do you do or use to study Korean besides this video?
@IllegalInAmsterdam
4 жыл бұрын
@@mimihua2 I have Korean dialogues recorded that I listen to when I can for listening practice. I'll also use flash cards not just for individual words but for sentence fragments and full sentences. For me it's more of a hobby than anything so I dont study very intensely and have no speaking practice, but I'd also recommend any platform where you can practice speaking to natives.
@mimihua2
4 жыл бұрын
@@IllegalInAmsterdam Thanks.
@AlotOfSunInHeaven
3 жыл бұрын
Where do you find the translations?
@kokosflokkchen4228
3 жыл бұрын
I´m glad you say that because I also rewinded the video to find out what he was saying when he said 토요일. It sounded not as I would expect the word to sound like. But I´m so happy that at least I understood the written version :) And yes, I´ve been studying hard during the last 3-4 months and still there are new words. I´d say it´s rather a B1/B2 level than A0/1. I maen making appointments at the hospital and stuff like that is my goal. It´s very advanced I´d say. Beginner level would be things like "how are you?", "what are your hobbies", "the weather is nice", "I have a sister and two cats" ...
@imnotyumi8
3 жыл бұрын
After 5 months of studying Korean, I'm so proud of myself for understanding almost everything ^.^ I'm still having a hard time with numbers tho. -ps. To everyone who are studying Korean, 화이팅!!!
@бузок-ц4р
2 жыл бұрын
i thought you said "after 5 minutes" and was so confused
@nicoleraheem1195
Жыл бұрын
Which textbooks did you use ? TTMIK,YOSEI, EWHA, TUTTLE PUBLISHING, HIPPOCRENE KOREAN FOR BEGINNERS? DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL? TAKE A CLASS ? HAVE A TUTOR? How did you reach this point in five months?
@Hyunatic
7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I think of myself as a high beginner/low intermediate and I understand about 70%+ of each conversation and that's enough to answer everything correctly.
@jasiich8258
6 жыл бұрын
I'm learning korean for 2 months now (due to my schedule not regularly tough) and it was really hard. So not really for absolute beginners :(
@michellestrauss4293
7 жыл бұрын
The formatting of this video is fantastic. I'd love to see more videos like this, the audio with the added transcription is really helpful
@melissat9120
5 жыл бұрын
Not sure who will see this at this point in the comments, but you can always try listening to it at .75 speed! The difference really helped me.
@phinkuhh2398
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@moma7252
2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip, going to try it now.
@Zarzar22
3 жыл бұрын
Remember watching and struggling with this about two years ago in college. Living in Korea now and this has become childsplay. Quite satisfying! For those of you struggling here, dont give up! Youll get much better someday through your work :)
@zach214able
4 жыл бұрын
I am from South Korea. I also practiced listening while studying English, but it is not easy. I understand your situation!
@KZ-hu9uj
6 жыл бұрын
Phew. Glad I’m starting this. Listening comprehension is the one form of studying I really haven’t delved into yet, but it is the most important for actually talking to people. Thank you for this high quality video!
@lucyjane6008
6 жыл бұрын
the only reason i got the first one right is because i picked up 자동차
@donttakefelixscheesestick6367
3 жыл бұрын
Same
@ltrain8688
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought this was really tough at first, but I keep rewatching it and it’s definitely helping with my listening skills.
@marktran88
7 жыл бұрын
This video is very useful though it's not absolute beginner level. I have been learning Korean for like 6 months now, but I need to listen more than 3 times to understand all of them! I hope there will be more videos like this coming in the future. Korean listening skill is quite challenging to those who have just started for a short period of time.
@Johnnys_Manager
5 жыл бұрын
to the people who don’t understand this video, i recommend you to write down the vocabulary you don’t know from this video (when the subtitles come up) and memorise it. listen to the audio everyday and hopefully you guys can understand what is being said. it really helps
@micaylacatherine2079
3 жыл бұрын
I've been learning korean for over 4 years now, but I stopped for a year so I am refreshing on everything. This is definitely not absolute beginner. Even at my level I missed some things.
@Morgane971
7 жыл бұрын
감사합니다! 너무 좋았어요~
@think21self
6 жыл бұрын
3:23 '오늘 문 여는 시간이 어떻게 되나요?' does not mean 'What time do you close today?' Rather, it means the opposite. So you should say : '오늘 문 닫는 시간이 어떻게 되나요?' or '오늘 몇시까지 문을 여나요? '
@IllegalInAmsterdam
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's been annoying me for ages, haha
@KoreanClass101
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Yun Jae, Thanks for posting, you're right, the more commonly used phrase is 오늘 문 닫는 시간이 어떻게 되나요?' or '오늘 몇시까지 문을 여나요? ', thank you for pointing this out to us. Cheers, Team KoreanClass101.com
@agnieszkatwardosz5106
7 жыл бұрын
This is some amazing content, I don't really get it when they talk quickly but when it slows down it gets better. It's aesthetically pleasing, well-thought out, and very useful for various types of beginner. Cheers!
@jamiec8657
7 жыл бұрын
Nowhere close to beginner ! lol but still great material
@진유-w5r
5 жыл бұрын
사랑해재키와이 OMG R U A JVCKI WAI FAN?
@athenagliddon9783
6 жыл бұрын
After a year of studying, I can mostly get these correct, but as most people have indicated, this is hardly beginner material.
@naritruwireve1381
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's high beginner level since I'm at that level and it wasn't too difficult but not too easy either for me
@thandekadaydream
6 жыл бұрын
This was hard before but now its helpful. This means i progressed. Yay.
@jnkvval
4 жыл бұрын
this is not for absolute beginners but ive been trying to learn korean for about a year and this is so useful !! i kinda understand written korean but i have troubles with understanding spoken korean so this video helped me a lot. its surprising but i understood at least 70% of the video ksjdj
@anamericaninbusan9389
6 жыл бұрын
"Absolute beginner?" You're joking, right? I couldn't understand the first dadgum sentence.
@whereismypozolewithchile2228
4 жыл бұрын
OMG, a few months (I guess 2) I was trying to practice my Korean listening skills and I just had like 2 answers rights, i could catch up some words but I really didn't understand what the girl or the speakers said. But after keeping with my studies I had all my answers rights, even if in my head I couldn't structure the sentence, I did understood the main ideas. I'm so proud of myself. I tell you this so you don´t give up on yourself and your studies. It may be difficult now but if you continue you'll see your progress, just keep going!!!!!!!!
@micah385
3 жыл бұрын
I watched this video about 2 months ago and understood nothing, but now I can understand it completely. Definitely not beginner level though lol
@thebookhuntr8521
5 жыл бұрын
Although this isnt for absolute beginners, it is extremely helpful and well put
@hellokth9745
5 жыл бұрын
I'm still on level 1, so i have no confidence to watch videos without subtitles or read articles in korean. But i'm suprised that I understand most of the conversations in this video. Thank you so much! I built my confidence to watch videos without subtitles and I'll speak to korean people from now on to practice. 정말 감사합니다~ 💜
@MrsKamper
5 жыл бұрын
I've been learning Korean since August 2018, so just about 4 months. This video is great for listening practice. I only got one answer incorrect. For the last three scenarios I closed my eyes so I didn't visually see the options to choose from. I owe all my Korean knowledge to the Lingodeer app. I've learned so much in such a short time with that app. I wish I had the app 8 years ago when I was learning Japanese. Good luck with your studies guys.
@ejami005
6 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Helped me level up quickly to sentence comprehension.
@santjevana8279
4 жыл бұрын
I felt a bit bad about myself at first, but I'm so glad I read the comments saying this is definitely not for absolute beginners. I've been studying Korean for about 6 months and I need to hear every exercise at least 5 times before I can try to answer.
@Joy-yg8nl
5 жыл бұрын
A tip- if you're somewhat of a beginner like me you'll find that it's a LOT easier to understand if you play it at 0.5x speed, as they do talk kind of fast
@nadz993
7 жыл бұрын
I understood about 70% of this just from watching Running Man and Korean dramas for 3 years Never picked up a book just google translate and that's it. It's possible guys
@displosomia6106
6 жыл бұрын
but this was like A1 level, there is nothing to brag about
@althine937
3 жыл бұрын
i like it so much! it suits my beginner level. its challenging but not that hard as well. thank you!
@MzCelticsChik9
7 жыл бұрын
Yall are the bestttttttttttttttttt. I literally don't have to playlist this anymore. OMG thank you.
@diegorojas7697
5 жыл бұрын
감사합니다
@강수하-b3l
5 жыл бұрын
i have never actually studied the vocabulary, only letters and grammar so most of the vocab i know is from the type of entertainment i watch so this was quite easy for me to understand as i got everything right ! thank you, this actually helped me understand how much i’ve learnt so far !
@lazumi9882
6 жыл бұрын
Sooo lovely calm voices ^~^💞
@IRZAMiMiC
4 жыл бұрын
Wow I actually understood the conversation, The power of vocabulary
@cb-ov1cj
6 жыл бұрын
i feel so proud of myself as i’ve never had any proper korean lessons but understood the whole thing without difficulty T^T Thanks for the check and the material
@kovidkarki1053
5 жыл бұрын
wooooow its very nice and helpfull heartly thanks
@DB-lh6wz
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid.. as mentioned deffo not beginner. Upper beginner / lower intermediate level. Would reccomend listening at .75 speed.
@linhgia2182
2 жыл бұрын
OMG. I didn’t study Korean seriously. I’m just watching a lot Korean dramas and movies. And I’m so surprise because I can answer almost right. I’m not totally get all the question. So yah, K-dramas are amazingly useful 😂😂
@Meongge12
6 жыл бұрын
Please make some more videos like this!
@2.hyeon_tak.17
6 жыл бұрын
i got all perfect thanks you for making this video to practice my listening skills :)
@andreawatts5224
7 жыл бұрын
This is a great video but I don't think this is really for absolute beginners, maybe intermediate level beginners
@nahlisa242
5 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful thank uuuu
@Anni-cz4gk
5 жыл бұрын
I have made myself familiar with the language for three years now but i never actually studied it so i am kinda proud that i got the gist out of each of these plots and a lot of correct answers even though i dont know many verbs :)
@ann3018
6 жыл бұрын
I didn’t completely understand questions but I could guess it so I answer correctly almost all the time, thanks for the video~
@alexivy8732
3 жыл бұрын
its cringe when people say ~ after a sentence
@bbyskittles91
3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely for beginners, you just have to know basic grammar structure and use it to learn the vocabulary and learn how to form sentences correctly. This is my favorite way to learn because you are learning many things at once and see how words are used in everyday conversations, but judging by the comments a lot of people like more textbook style teaching.
@AbdusamadVlogsKorea
5 жыл бұрын
Really good
@OfficialAwkbe
6 жыл бұрын
I opened this and was a bit shocked. I understood most of the first dialogue. YAY!!!
@beingozi
3 жыл бұрын
I listened to this a few months ago when I was a true beginner and understood almost nothing. I listened to it again (about half a year into self-studying Korean) and literally understood every single thing without the subtitles. I wouldn't say it's for absolute beginners so if you're an absolute beginner and don't understand, don't feel discouraged! Give it some time (and study!) then come back to it. 화이팅!
@bxd734
2 жыл бұрын
Was frustrated when I first watched this, but a few months later with a lot more practice, It is definitely much simpler. I agree with others that this isn't for absolute beginners, but it isn't super complicated and a great video for those who have been studying for a little bit. Really nice format too with the pictures!
@blackheart66v73
7 жыл бұрын
Well one thing is I think my listening skills improved because I can some of the words but I can't answer the questions correctly because I still get lost in translation but I hope I can become 100 percent interactive some day by listening to this everyday, but I wouldn't call this absolute begginer
@LanaABA
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, thank you for the material! It's very useful and it's hard to find something for beginners :)
@aftertheoblivion663
4 жыл бұрын
Don't use 죄송합니다 when trying to say excuse me,that's just wrong. Use 저기요 instead
@lilc0ffee893
4 жыл бұрын
"실례합니다" could also be used.
@allergictohumansnotanimals5671
4 жыл бұрын
저기요 뭐에요?
@aftertheoblivion663
4 жыл бұрын
@@allergictohumansnotanimals5671 it litterally means "excuse me"
@allergictohumansnotanimals5671
4 жыл бұрын
@@aftertheoblivion663 아 이해했어요 고마워요~
@EliannaCH
3 жыл бұрын
@@lilc0ffee893 I could be wrong, but I thought that that was the way to say "Excuse me" when you are trying to get someone's attention, and if you bumped into someone and said that, it could be taken as rude???
@kiarahubbardd
2 жыл бұрын
My speaking, reading and writing I would consider lower intermediate. My listening skills are still beginner. Going to work on that now!
@kimorcales4231
4 жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. I'm self studying and I understand around 90% of this video. Thank you very much!
@wooshi2915
4 жыл бұрын
I understood only 0.0090% of the video
@berkaysefer
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing content! Thank you so much
@boushra2687
4 жыл бұрын
Ive been learning for 7 months (im not counting the other two months since i was on and off) and this makes sense but this isnt for like absolute complete beginners After a year and 6 ish months this is easy as bread lil
@evangelinafreisheim9914
4 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I was not ready for this its so fast 😂😭 ill come back in a few more months
@annecharlize2069
4 жыл бұрын
Out of all questions, I got like 2 mistakes. This is really helpful, considering I've been studying korean for 4 years on my own.
@auliadwioktaviani3602
5 жыл бұрын
이런 좋은 영상을 올려주셔서 정말 감사합니다!!ㅠ0ㅠ
@meowlol5248
4 жыл бұрын
This Was actually very helpful :D
@nathanrichey9427
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I know most of these words, but I have a lazy ear. Listening to these lessons a few more times will help me understand more of it!
@mapetidye
5 жыл бұрын
I only got 5 wrong. Very proud of myself. I am a high intermediate so I’m not surprised but then again I am bc I don’t practice my listening very much, thank god for me knowing a lotttttt of vocabulary and understanding the grammar completely.
@yavrun9452
4 жыл бұрын
good teacher
@danjefferies2235
Жыл бұрын
Great video but definitely upper beginner/lower intermediate level
@lukyapanggabean8716
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for making this video..
@Allan271984
5 жыл бұрын
I only know a few words, even though, despite that, I could get some of the questions right, I have a long way to go and learn Korean, but I never thought I could get some of them right, very useful, not that Beginner level thought, however, I really liked it!
@Istanislav1
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Спасибо
@Nveevocals
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because I've watched korean dramas since I was 10 years old (despite being an islander), surprisingly I understood what they said from my years of watching korean dramas and listening to kpop and ost songs/ indie korean music.
@cecec00
5 жыл бұрын
i see that absolute beginner now means level b1. good to know. -_-
@janabakdash5430
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@ildikocseh278
4 жыл бұрын
I got full score, however its a little bit difficult for beginners as there are some intermediate expressions but still worth trying it. Although it is not absolute beginner.
@tashan4932
2 жыл бұрын
I could understand a basic summary, enough to get the answers right. However, I still don't know enough vocabulary or grammar that was included in this lesson. I will keep studying!
@airatapia5115
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@hna97_56
5 жыл бұрын
really help me
@zyrob3435
3 жыл бұрын
Been seriously studying for less than a month but could understood almost everything (at least 90%). Some specific words like sugar and flour slipped but I still understood the gist of the conversation and got all but one question correct. Is this beginner like the title says or upper beginner as most of the comments seem to suggest?
@Dowoon_is_a_drum
3 жыл бұрын
I could answer and understand some of the questions but because I have taken some classes before. Although this video is very useful, is not in an 'absolute beginner' level.
@kamalgc5128
6 жыл бұрын
very good
@hundegelat1ne
4 жыл бұрын
this is so useful 😍
@steffifm
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you i was able to get so answers
@FullahFast
5 жыл бұрын
very easy I got it all right ✨
@yesyoucanlanguages5510
3 жыл бұрын
2 months ago I couldn't understand anything now I do. I Encourage you to listen to slow conversation first or conversations for real beginner ,it will work
@Sky-df7hk
6 жыл бұрын
I'm at mid beginner level and I found this too hard, only picked up a few words per sentence... TT
@re2ema
5 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that I find this very easy, when I didn't master English yet 🙂💔 I am struggling with the language I need, and enjoying in the language that I really don't need! 😂 I would like to thank my oppas, unnies "Idols" , Runningman, Knowing brother and K-drama 😂💔
@ramupandey519
7 жыл бұрын
Good job
@ampharos3106
4 жыл бұрын
I understood 70-90% of everything :) I need to work on time..
@wooshi2915
4 жыл бұрын
How?? 🤔
@dann2678
7 жыл бұрын
yay thank youu
@chance5073
4 жыл бұрын
For those that do not understand why this video is for beginners, I think it is for beginners because it puts you in the position of a child who is learning a language for the first time. Someone who is a beginner should listen for familiar words, and also listen to this multiple times trying to hear familiar words each time related to each topic. This isn't to teach you a set of words or phrases in one sitting, but to practice comprehension of listening.
@katoudupuis
5 жыл бұрын
i mean... ive known how to read and write in korean, watched many tv shows and dramas, am married to a korean men for 2 years who's mom continuously tries to speak korean to me and this was partially understood. That was only because id get a few key words and use my imagination and common sense to imagine what everything was about ... definitely not beginner
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