Wendy likes him so naturally - he has to be opposite.
@nikkrelj471
7 ай бұрын
The only reason luka has been as ball dominant as previous seasons it's injuries. Since everyone got back he's not been that at all. Stop with a 2 year old narrative and actually watch the games. People love the use usage against him, yet embiid and giannis have a bigger one on a better team but no one mentions it. Pathetic
@Vini7034
7 ай бұрын
Luka has voter fatigue for an award he never won...
@martinmillan625
7 ай бұрын
I like Bontemps a lot, despite the comments that I am reading below, honestly this podcast is basketball due to Bontemps basketball intelligence honestly. I love Windy but he is most of an insider, I look to hear about him on some gossips around the league and Tim is the funny guy, Nevertheless Bontemps is a must on this podcast.
@WhereIsYourID
7 ай бұрын
I don't always agree with Bontemps and I can see how he can be irritable to some. But I agree hes a necessary evil for the show and I typically atleast value his opinions even if I don't agree. People are so quick to hate people they've never met
@GurtonBuster07
7 ай бұрын
This guy is out of base with comparing Tatum to Donovan Mitchell and saying Tatum isn’t a lock for all nba first team when Tatum has been a lock for all nba first team the past 2 years. Tim might know basketball but I know basketball too and his take on Jayson Tatum was just pathetic and had no factual basis to it lol.
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
He's extremely bias! Steve Nash, Joker, Dirk, drose, even Curry w ER e not top 5 players when they won MVP award... Dude is a flat out liar
@1AceIAm1
7 ай бұрын
Luca for MVP
@bren226
7 ай бұрын
Giannis not being able to shoot a basketball is seriously unimpressive. His game is all strength, speed, and athleticism, and it's not going to age well. He's not winning another title at the best player on the team, surely not winning another mvp, the league is too talented and skilled
@Earl_E_Burd
7 ай бұрын
Harden's comment at the time seemed butthurt but it had some truth. I agree Giannis' game is not gonna age well and his stubbornness that is currently an advantage will make it difficult for him to come to terms. He could still snag another MVP tho, he has the will of a champion.
@jaredorland3179
7 ай бұрын
bontemps said u have to be a first team all nba lock to be an actual mvp candidate, tatum has made the last 2 all nba first teams and is heading towards a 3rd straight one, SGA getting a wild narrative
@matthewspangler2708
7 ай бұрын
Bird & Magic drove their teams to playoff success in their rookie years, and both were considered to be the best player on their team (maybe Magic second to Kareem, but it was close).
@jammer9941
7 ай бұрын
Kareem definitely had a case for best player as he averaged 31.9 pts, 3.9 blocks, 12 rebounds, 3.1 assists, and 1 stl in the playoffs.
@matthewspangler2708
7 ай бұрын
@@jammer9941 No doubt, the argument for Magic would be his transcendent performance in game 6. I could go either way. Not too shabby for a rook!
@Alexodeya6925
7 ай бұрын
Hey bontemps screw the haters you are good at your job.
@ronaldrenearmstrong9872
7 ай бұрын
This guys forgot to mention SGA super star and (J dub) Jalen Williams ascending star Chet 3rd best player on OKC.
@ronaldrenearmstrong9872
7 ай бұрын
Spurs basically a one-man team.
@lolpredictions
7 ай бұрын
1. jokic 2. shai 3. luka 4. kd 5. giannis
@stevewilliams3803
7 ай бұрын
Besides Wilt and Wes …. has there even been a team that had the MVP and ROY in the same year?
@StephenBoesch
6 ай бұрын
Didn't Russell do it? Noone since those 3 in any case. Kareem might have come close, he came into the (more mature) league exceptionally mature.
@mattwhitely1067
7 ай бұрын
I mean victor is better than chet period.. Even right now
@Vini7034
7 ай бұрын
19:40 the dumbest arguments ever since Jokić won it as a 6th seed
@GurtonBuster07
7 ай бұрын
LMAO yo the disrespect for Jayson Tatum is CRAZY
@robotclark
7 ай бұрын
I agree the league is pushing Wemby in an unrelenting fashion.
@Shortballa11
7 ай бұрын
Every voter in the media has been pushing Chet up until this week. What are you talking about?
@robotclark
7 ай бұрын
@@Shortballa11 that's not what I've seen. they're both great, both have valid cases for ROY, and I think Wemby will probably end up being better (he's two years younger) but I think Chet is a little more polished right now. just an opinion.
@Shortballa11
7 ай бұрын
@@robotclarkI mean all 3 of these guys had Chet before this POD came out, and I listen to a lot of the different pods and until this week they all wouldve voted Chet.
@SayjbeeMOB21
7 ай бұрын
Bontemps support comment! Bro keeps things interesting y’all just soft 🤣
@quintonmack9578
7 ай бұрын
The kuzma situation just further shows how much of a joke the wizards organization is. They giving Kuz, Lebron and Curry treatment. They probably could have gotten 2 firsts and Hardy and they gave kuz the option. wizards are joke of a franchise
@MrJD-tj2co
7 ай бұрын
But you guys need to understand that Wemby got better stats than Chet because he can gamble many possesion to obtain his stats,,where as Chet has a lesser better because he need to be more careful on each possesion..if he can just take more shots like wemby did and gamble on defence just to block shots..Maybe there will be different arguement. I will pick Chet as RoY...
@themsuicjunkies
7 ай бұрын
Chet gets awesome looks because of SGA.
@Shortballa11
7 ай бұрын
Why is Chet only averaging 7rebs then. Is that cuz of gambling too? Your whole argument is a reach. They are both great blockers, Wemby is just better.
@07Vins07
7 ай бұрын
I'll pick you as toilet broom...
@shurmekajohnson
7 ай бұрын
Please get rid of Bontemps. There are too many people who would be better to listen to. FYI, Bontemps J-Dub is the second most important player on the Thunder. I'm giving a thumbs up to you guys, but please get someone better than Bontemps.
@iri101
7 ай бұрын
Chet’s not a Rookie this is his second year. They can’t even spell “rookie” right 😂
@seabass9043
7 ай бұрын
ESPN has definitely told Windy to push the narrative that Wemby is the next Lebron
@mitchking4800
7 ай бұрын
Windy said he likes them cheap and easy😂.
@brendantoungate8287
7 ай бұрын
The ROY 'argument' has always been exceptionally silly, IMO. Chet plays with the guy who finished #2 in the MVP straw poll. SGA is the one who gets the attention of the opposing defenses. Chet does a great job of playing off of SGA, but he's not the focal point. Wemby's the focal point on every possession he plays. He gets doubled, tripled, and even quadrupled in some cases when he has the ball. Teams orient their defenses to stopping him, and he's still putting up more efficient numbers for the last month and a half than Chet. Wemby is ROY.
@fadethechannel
7 ай бұрын
🗣️🗣️🗣️
@Earl_E_Burd
7 ай бұрын
Quadruple teamed, guys! Srsly
@July9326
7 ай бұрын
Yep chet gets wide open looks playing with an MVP level player like SGA so it's obvious why he'd be more efficient than wemby but fools that dont know a thing about ball continue using this dumb argument
@wileyschmitt
7 ай бұрын
Plus Chet is NOT a rookie.
@ronaldrenearmstrong9872
7 ай бұрын
Don't forget J- Will
@blablablaa14
7 ай бұрын
The only people who have more responsibility than wemby, are the MVP candidates. It’s insane there is even a discussion around Wemby. It’s clear if he was in OKC instead of Chet he would dominate even more
@Sonicmixer85
7 ай бұрын
It's called the "Most Valuable Player" award not the "Most Valuable Team" award. If a dude is averaging 100pts 50rbs and 50blks a game, but is on the 30th team because he's literally playing every game 1 v 5, he should absolutely win MVP.
@TheJ0ker15_
7 ай бұрын
this makes 0 sense lol...
@MichaelAruba
7 ай бұрын
Literally no one talks about the fact that Chet almost never gets doubled and Wemby gets 2 and sometimes 3 defenders on him the second he catches the ball inside the 3pt line. And he still is able to score. Then the fact that the Spurs have a near top 5 defense with Wemby on the court vs a bottom 5 defense with him off the court. But its hard to win a team sport by yourself.
@nkrumansantos1794
7 ай бұрын
People never mention that Chet had 1 full year with his team before playing his first game. Chet is not even a pure rookie. Wemby is the ROY
@shelloshello19
7 ай бұрын
Chet without SGA, but with Jalen Williams and the rest of OKC's great roster: OKC +2.3 NetRtg Wemby at C with Tre Jones (who isn't exactly Jalen Williams): Spurs +3.3 NetRtg So all the "Chet contributing to winning" stuff comes just because he gets to play most of his minutes with an MVP candidate. Remove the MVP candidate and Wemby puts up better stats (with a worse roster doing bizarre experiments for half the season) and his team does better. If you're giving Chet Rookie of the Year, might as well give it to SGA and Sam Presti because they're the only reasons Chet is even in the conversation.
@rubenduran9517
7 ай бұрын
The infamous sochan pg experiment was for 20 games. It's going to grow next year people will claim it was the whole season.
@shelloshello19
7 ай бұрын
@@rubenduran9517 The experiments didn't really end there, since Spurs then started Malaki Branham (basically a G-Leaguer at this point) at PG for the next 13 games. It wasn't until Game 34 that even a backup-level point guard started for the Spurs (Tre Jones), and no coincidence that Wemby soon took off afterward.
@rubenduran9517
7 ай бұрын
@shello510 I'm all for experiments. Wemby said in interviews that he didn't want to be restricted to playing center so they didn't start him out at center. Collins was terrible so just as much moving wemby to center was taking Collins out of starting lineup. I'm sure they had convos with wemby that while they would play him at center on defense he could play his game on offense. His game is going to evolve. They have many holes in that roster. That's what a rebuild is. You hit on some draft picks some you dont. Very few players are finished products at 19 or 20 so we'll see if Branham sochan and other develop.if not that's what the draft capital and salary cap flexibility is for.
@shelloshello19
7 ай бұрын
@@rubenduran9517 I'm also for experiments, but it's okay to admit those were failed ones that were basically hazing.
@rubenduran9517
7 ай бұрын
@shello510 hazing?!? Lol yeah they didn't work. It's also OK to test a player.
@charlescoulter7872
7 ай бұрын
This is why fans and players dislike the mvp standards there is too much convoluted thoughts in choosing want makes you seen as the best for a season award.
@Earl_E_Burd
7 ай бұрын
Getting the most votes. That's the answer.
@sitonmuhdeckasshole
7 ай бұрын
It really shouldn't be that complicated, guys who olds school BS thinking like Brian that think oh best player on the best team should be considered... no. It's an individual award, if you aren't a top 4 player, I don't care you have a great record, and no one in their right mind thinks Tatum is on the level of Jokic, Embiid, SGA, Luke or Giannis THIS year, his production doesn't warrant it. Sure he sacrificed with how much talent they have but his efficiency doesn't even match these guys. The media all seem to have this weird crush on Tatum where everyone wants to anoint him the new best player in the league and he's just not and he's probably never going to be. Yes, he's a super smooth scorer with a beautiful game to watch, but he's not as effective as he is appealing to watch. He's not the basketball genius these other guys are either. End of story, stop with the Tatum MVP discussions, he's not that guy. Same with Mitchell for almost all the same reasons.
@Earl_E_Burd
7 ай бұрын
If they were smart, they'd put a few hundred thousand towards greasing the skids using a plausibly deniable third-party person to influence the election, like FIFA and like gambling referees.
@David-mu8hn
7 ай бұрын
I think if it wasn't for the record, Luka would be the clear leader for MVP. Luka is just that dude.
@Shortballa11
7 ай бұрын
yea if he was a top 4 seed there is no doubt the award would be his. But Kyrie can't stay healthy so they lose a lot
@GurtonBuster07
7 ай бұрын
Lmao bro you can’t be out the playoffs and be an MVP. You could average 60 points ffs, IT DOESNT MATTER
@GrandmasterZen
7 ай бұрын
SGA is killing it , and plays D
@Vini7034
7 ай бұрын
@@GurtonBuster07 Dallas isn't out the playoffs ...
@syddak
7 ай бұрын
I think the minority is louder in these comments than the majority. I would bet the majority love these three as a core trio. I personally only watch when the Tims are on.
@sitonmuhdeckasshole
7 ай бұрын
I like them too, but Brian was insufferable this episode during the MVP bit. Dude Tatum and Mitchell are just not on the level of these other guys, last postseasons isn't clouding the thinking on that, it's just further evidence, which is also backed up by their numbers this year. They're having GREAT, all nba level seasons. But they aren't having MVP level seasons when Jokic, Luka, Giannis and SGA are in their prime and playing at this level.
@samblair3359
7 ай бұрын
Same. They've got a real id/ego/superego thing going on makes for good discussion. I find the other ESPN guys that come on very bland.
@GrandmasterZen
7 ай бұрын
💯
@Krac2A
7 ай бұрын
Chet is not the 2nd most important payer for OKC. He is 3rd.
@roshawnrobinson1999
7 ай бұрын
Defense/Rebounds
@Monotony619
7 ай бұрын
@@roshawnrobinson1999 I mean he getting 7.6 board a game. Bismack and the aussie guy are getting 6 a game. Shae getting 5. Not disagreeing but he ain't like a rodman or something. Seems like a team efforr which I like actually
@childrenofshanghai9894
7 ай бұрын
Victor was sick for the 3 games before the raptors
@jak5714
7 ай бұрын
the media be moving goals posts for wemby all year. Since when did team success ever factor in for Rookie of the year (an individual player award)? High lottery picks go to bad teams for a reason.
@Mo13uckets
7 ай бұрын
The amount of goal post moving to keep Giannis out of the top 2 is crazy.. Like now we’re considering “drama” when talking about the mvp??
@bhop1871
7 ай бұрын
Kuzma is a space cadet. Very strange guy
@toml6535
7 ай бұрын
the luka disrespect hahaha
@bkelly625
7 ай бұрын
Mavs are 7th seed and when the poll was done were 8th seed. They might not even make the playoffs so he can’t be MVP. If the Mavs move up in the standings he will be a real contender but until then unfortunately he can’t be
@urihamilton1077
7 ай бұрын
they are in prime position to move up the standings right now tho so saying theyll miss the playoffs is kinda wild when they are gonna end tonight heading into the all star break on a 6 game win streak and finally be almost fully healthy with the return of lively first game after ASB.@@bkelly625
@toml6535
7 ай бұрын
there all just 5 6 7 gb...come on now@@bkelly625
@nuggz720
7 ай бұрын
I know Brandon Miller is not in the convo but he has been pretty good as well recently
@mookz34
7 ай бұрын
When the Bucks crush a team, be it Boston or Denver or New York, the mantra is that it doesn't matter. Why are they the only team with this narrative?
@DavidGolic
7 ай бұрын
I'd say Boston gets this way more... people talk about a team that is 42-12 like they are 27-27
@freeman0048
7 ай бұрын
Probably because you just started the narrative
@Fash0da
7 ай бұрын
Because they don’t look cohesive, because they just fired their coach midway through the season, because Dame looks like a mess and half-committed, and because the Bucks have yet to string together a month of solid play. Does that answer your question?
@destinywaitMW
7 ай бұрын
Kuzma rejected trade? Not surprised since few years ago he said that he pretty much hates Luka :D
@Vini7034
7 ай бұрын
He's just jealous
@blablablaa14
7 ай бұрын
Anyone that still stays Chet is ROY doesn’t know anything about basketball and what it means to be the most valuable rookie
@kydinero1741
7 ай бұрын
victor is playing 25 minutes per game putting up better numbers and is the best player on his team. Chet is MAYBE the 3rd best player on his own team he is not ROTY
@x83b6an0s9cm
7 ай бұрын
always love the banter between these guys LOL
@ferdinandchavez7566
7 ай бұрын
Wemby is the ROY so far but a lot of rookies are balling this year! I love Lively for my Mavs!
@94mikless
7 ай бұрын
Luka is the MVP btw
@hardworkingcriminal4873
7 ай бұрын
😂 ok respect to your opinion
@unconditionalLove1
7 ай бұрын
I’m a bigger Bontemps fan than most but him even pretending Chet is in the ROY conversation anymore is one of the dumbest takes in sports history. It’s Victor’s and no one else is even close. People like Bontemps in the media are going to quickly turn the Thunder into one of the most hated teams in the league.
@Flexorcist3030
7 ай бұрын
Why are we not talking how Chet is playing lately? He has become a full role player. Thats your ROTY?
@1800LUNATIC
7 ай бұрын
Win shares are directly related to wins, of course Chet would have more win shares than the other top rookies on trash teams. If you averaged a 40 point triple double over 5 games and lost them all, you would get 0 win shares. It a nice stat if both players have similar records, but not for this discussion.
@nikkrelj471
7 ай бұрын
People are tired of voting for Luka and he hasn't even won it yet
@Shortballa11
7 ай бұрын
thats actually true
@thomashigginsmusic
7 ай бұрын
Bontemps is a HORRIBLE listen. Less of him the better.
@ThunderPhant
7 ай бұрын
ROTY isn't an award you give based on hypothetical numbers and situations, Chet is on OKC, and Wemby is on the Spurs. It doesn't matter what you think would happen if they were swapped because that's not reality and you can't be sure what would happen. Personally, I am now favoring Wemby for ROTY, but it is still a close race. His stats are better, but his usage rate is much higher. He takes many more shots, and averages more points. He also is much worse at putting the ball on the floor than Chet, and turns the ball over more often; as great as Wemby is defensively, I'd also argue he makes more defensive mistakes than Chet - granted he has the ability to do that since the Spurs aren't trying to win. Chet is impacting winning in a very impressive way, and the main thing that has - for the time being- moved my towards favoring Wemby is the increases in his efficiency. Earlier in the year, when I was favoring Chet, all Wemby had going for him was the numbers, but it was coming on poor efficiency and decision making; shooting so many 3s at slow a low % was not attractive, and he was averaging like 2 more PPG than Chet on 4 more shots, nothing to get excited about in the head to head. Now that Wemby is much more efficient while being the focal point of the other team's defense I'm more impressed and favor him. However, it's not a lock. We are kinda overracting to 1 game vs. a bad Raptors team here (I had already been slightly favoring Wemby before this Raptors game), when in the previous few games he wasn't effective. If Wemby slumps or has his efficiency dip again, while the Thunder continue to compete for the 1 seed, I can easily see the award tipping back into Chet's favor.
@yvans.
7 ай бұрын
He was already in front of Chet before the Raptors game,
@simpark100
7 ай бұрын
I look forward to this podcast every week. In another life I wish I was you. 😀
@DimiREAL
7 ай бұрын
Boy, Windy really doesn't like Jokic openly.
@michaeldemarco2415
7 ай бұрын
He voted for him. He said is is already a hall of famer and approaching all time great. What the f### do you want.
@DimiREAL
7 ай бұрын
@@michaeldemarco2415 He led a campaign against him(first Jokic's MVP year that is), and pretty openly at that, which is why Bontemps and MacMahon joke about him being a Jokic hater to this day. He did vote for him but you would not have guessed that from what he was saying, I guess he figured Jokic was winning so he joined that side not to get called out as a Jokic hater (which he already was being called out due to his comments). And as it pertains to this episode he clearly was just trying to find reasons and asked questions as to "how can Jokic not win MVP" or "what does SGA/others need to do" and so on.
@michaelcollins3384
7 ай бұрын
Regarding MVP, I think guys like Tatum and Kawhi are top 5 players but won't be MVP contenders - even if they win their conference - because of the caliber of the other All-Stars on their team. The ability and production of their co-stars lowers their individual production vis-a-vis counting stats, prevents other teams from building defensive schemes solely around them (meaning the stats they do accumulate are easier to amass), and also, it means more team wins will come easier. Even though you could make an argument Kawhi and Tatum are the better pure basketball players, I don't believe you can argue they're more valuable to their respective teams than guys like Shai and Jokic, or even Luka or Giannis.
@Reneblade
7 ай бұрын
Kuzma isnt worth 2 first round picks and his obvious lie about why he didn’t wanna go is comedy.
@zinktomas8251
7 ай бұрын
Player impact ranking, what McMahon was referring to: 1) Jokic 2) Doncic 3) Giannis 4) Shai
@nuggz720
7 ай бұрын
Wendy that is correct - Stuckey was an EWU draft pick - EWU used to be a Division 2 school and my alma mater Western Washington U biggest rival
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
Bro these dudes need to gtfofh, how in the hell is Kawhi top 5 when Tatum numbers are better...
@lolpredictions
7 ай бұрын
agreed but tatum shouldnt be in there either. Ik Boston is the one seed but Jt also plays with the most stacked group of teammates in the league. I'd have him 7th in mvp ranking.
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
@@lolpredictions stack how? The got K.P no other team want and was a former teammate of Luka... The Buck chose Dame over Jrue , but youre not calling the Bucks Stacked because they're not winning as much as the Cs... Get out of here with that BS... Before the season of I asked you which big 3 would you take you would've pick the Bucks core Giannis, Dame, Middleton or Lopez or the Cs.... The Cs comes out and start ballin now they're stacked.. 😂
@MarquisVegan
7 ай бұрын
Wemby is clearly ROTY and Jalen is clearly the second-best player on OKC. Chet is like the 3rd best player on his team and 3rd best player in his own draft class. Wemby is the best player on his team and by far the best players in his own draft class.
@roshawnrobinson1999
7 ай бұрын
If you only look at scoring yes Jalen is the 2nd best player. If you factor on what Chet defensively yes he is the 2nd best.
@MarquisVegan
7 ай бұрын
@@roshawnrobinson1999 That’s a legit point… I still feel you can make a debate that Jalen is the 2nd best because he been so effective offensively.
@VisualHighlights.
7 ай бұрын
MacMahon calling it the BS poll is hilarious 😭😭
@wargamesOfficial
7 ай бұрын
What Does MVP have to do with Playoff performances? Embiid craps the bed every year...the Tatum & Mitchell Takes are Horrible ....Tatum Deserves to be in top 3 in voting...Numbers don't tell the entire story 🍀
@CarlosSanchez-yn8im
7 ай бұрын
NEWS FLASH!! The Spurs are TANKiNG !!! I love Chet but there’s no argument AT ALL for the ROTY imo. He’s only playing 29 mins yo cmon now. It’s not even close yo …
@ernesto8290
7 ай бұрын
Tatum isnt seen as an MVP cuz what hes doing isnt as impressive as everyone else. Jokic is in a similar boat where they have a good team but he still very clearly the best player. You can swap Tatum with almost any other MVP candidate and theyll do the same, doesnt work the other way around.
@Nidzadrugar
7 ай бұрын
Who would you replace Jokic with and get the same result? Sabonis?😅 Nuggets are lottery team without Joker
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
That's BS.. those other team would be just as good if not better.... Mavs would actually be better
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
Jokic is a first round exit without Murray... Facts 💯 Tatum and Kyrie were teammates and win 60 games, your logic is dumb
@kimtoncoleman8934
7 ай бұрын
Kawhi and Tatum are very similar Tatum probably the better player right now...
@travisboman2993
7 ай бұрын
Here we go again with Brian pushing his agenda for SGA. Brian thinks a lot of himself, thinks he knows everything about basketball.
@M0IVD0
7 ай бұрын
Sga missed more games last year and Jdub is the 2nd option this is ridiculous
@MrBimirud
7 ай бұрын
Voter fatigue should be officially banned by the NBA. Just vote for the most deserving MVP that year - period. Voters picked Charles Barkley and Karl Malone over Jordan for MVP, which was totally ridiculous and cheapens the award.
@particularlee
7 ай бұрын
Tim MacMahon was a good 'moderator' in the ROTY conversation - it felt like a right wing left wing debate for a moment until he took some heat out of it
@lolpredictions
7 ай бұрын
Knicks, heat, boston, embiid 76ers > milwaukee in a playoff series
@sammyttheg412
7 ай бұрын
So tired of this false bs wemby has been an order of magnitude better than chet. There's no comparison
@BAMAMADEMG
7 ай бұрын
Like be honest who gives a care about a straw poll
@MattyG13
7 ай бұрын
Jokic is gonna win another mvp and hes coasting
@mattwhitely1067
7 ай бұрын
Jalen Rose voted for Irving.. come on
@Peroriperora
7 ай бұрын
Bontemps should switch to cricket
@brandonpelly848
7 ай бұрын
McMahon's take on Doncic's MVP case feels a little weak, I think he should distance himself from the Mavs and start covering a different team before he loses credibility...Im an avid listener to the pod and I always liked Ban McMahons takes but this is starting to feel personal now and when it gets personal, really gotta step back and not let the emotions get the better of you. We get it, Doncic is great and all, he needs that person to hold him accountable, that person shouldnt be a media reporter that's been know to have history with said player...but we live in a day in age where people make money off making things personal, so that's kinda where I ended up. the more McMahon talks about Mavs/Doncic, the less I believe him now because of the personal intent. ---- Sincerely, Mr. Pelly, Huge fan of the show.
@1800LUNATIC
7 ай бұрын
Bontemps turning Chet in to the new Mobley. "He's driving winning in a way we haven't seen since Tim Duncan" bro relax. Obviously Chet clearly Mobley but what are we doing.
@ChittyBob
7 ай бұрын
Very nice
@thekaying
7 ай бұрын
Tatum is not an MVP candidate because he averages 27, 8,5 and 5 while taking *more shots than Giannis.* He's an average three point shooter with Curry's shot selection
@adeniyioduguwa4040
7 ай бұрын
Remove Chet from this ROY conversation, Wemby will win it.
@Samsawlor
7 ай бұрын
Best nba podcast of all time when all 3 of these guys are here
@cousination
7 ай бұрын
Bontemps forgets that Chet plays with an mvp candidate and that everyone knew the Thunder were way better than the Spurs
@terrygennings5052
7 ай бұрын
What I am getting from this is that Jokic don't get judge like Giannis.
@stevewilliams3803
7 ай бұрын
The HNI huh? Love to see him tell a couple players where they fall on that index
@94mikless
7 ай бұрын
Tim Bontemps: your resident Wemby hater
@mattwhitely1067
7 ай бұрын
Ben simmons
@sarasl476
7 ай бұрын
Windhorst hate on Luka is incredible. It looks personal.
@childrenofshanghai9894
7 ай бұрын
do you give ROY to a single player or to the entire team he plays in
@richardcase9165
7 ай бұрын
well since d. Livley schooled them both were does that put him
@DD-sr9xm
7 ай бұрын
Jokic is mvp fav also because holy smokes the other nuggets SUCK this year. Jamal has had good games but overall not great. MPJ bad. AG bad. KCP good D but no O. Bench bad. Yet they are one game out of first in a very good western conference
@Earl_E_Burd
7 ай бұрын
High standards
@Samsawlor
7 ай бұрын
I loveeeeee bontemps omg him and McMahon crack me up
@nazcraz11
7 ай бұрын
I know Bontemps is technically correct about this rookie situation being unprecedented, but the LeBron / Melo year is pretty close. Denver was worse than OKC is, but Melo was *the* best player on that playoff team.
@M0IVD0
7 ай бұрын
It’s unprecedented because not even okc thought SGA would be this good smh
@4Reggie
7 ай бұрын
Pop can probably get it right , i just completely disagree with the direction of the team so far. As soon as you get somebody like Wemby on your team , you immediately start trying to win
@luigid3085
7 ай бұрын
You should never want to put the cart before the horse. To build something solid and lasting, you need coherent foundations and the ability to harmoniously combine the ingredients. For this, everyone must find their place and discover who they are, what their role is, and how to bring out the best in themselves for the benefit of the team. This is facilitated by the experimentation that Pop has put in place. Wemby will be the central piece, but he comes from another country and has much to learn himself. It's a work in progress, and it's starting to yield good results
@taylor6466
7 ай бұрын
Finally, a good ROY conversation
@chentediaz940
7 ай бұрын
Lmao the Bucks got blown out 🤣🤣🤣
@pdiz6390
7 ай бұрын
If Wemby was on OKC….
@andycundy5822
7 ай бұрын
SGA is the clear MVP. This is Jokic’s worst season in 4 years and he shouldn’t win it.
@Vini7034
7 ай бұрын
You spelled Luka wrong
@teledanhogan4237
7 ай бұрын
Take Jokić off the Nuggets and they don’t make the playoffs, take Shai off the Thunder and they are still in top 8 of the west. Clearly Jokić is more valuable to his team’s success
@AdrianLy
7 ай бұрын
same for luka. take him away we are a lottery team
@jeffreyware7808
7 ай бұрын
The Thunder were the 10 seed last year lol, I think Jokic is more valuable too but to project the Thunder as a great team without shai is a little drastic
@warlockmagic3416
7 ай бұрын
Wemby is starting to make a strong case for ROTY now. Too bad he hasn't had a better year to start though. Chet is definitely ahead, but he still could win.
@accordingtodrew7302
7 ай бұрын
See that’s not fair in my opinion that all Luka has to do is get his team to a top 6th seed to be a serious MVP candidate but SGA is being tasked to win the west to get his MVP. Shai has kept his team in a top 4 seeding at worst all season. This MVP criteria is so confusing because it’s never consistent amongst all players. Jokic shouldn’t win MVP if the nuggets finish 4th and the thunder have a better record. Technically Brunson is a legit candidate but since he’s not a tier 1 start he won’t win it either
@jeffreyware7808
7 ай бұрын
Criteria will never be consistent because it’s subjective. If the nuggets finish 4th and the Thunder are only 2 games ahead is that really a strong argument of team success? There’s not a clear rubric, everyone will value components differently
@abtocool6350
7 ай бұрын
To add context, the mavs have been injury riddled all season with having the top 3 most different starting lineups all season and there just a game out of 5th and like 4 games out of 4th. The thunder have been relatively healthy all season and my last point is that luka is just better than sga.
@Bolt_btw
7 ай бұрын
THE GIANNIS DISRESPECT IS DISGUSTING HE HAS BEEN COMPLETELY LEFT OUT OF THE MVP CONVERSATION FOR 4 STRAIGHT YEAR NOW...
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