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@blackpanthar906
Жыл бұрын
By the way contingency argument was first made by Ibn Sina in 10th century not 14th century. Irish Times wrote an article on that.
@AliDawah
Жыл бұрын
@@blackpanthar906 As salam u alaikum yeah but we don’t take his style of it and many scholars have called him a disbeliever. We use the contingency argument to prove Allah swt exists not just any deity. 😊
@ExposingHindutva101
Жыл бұрын
@@AliDawah Premise no 1: The universe is composed upon a set of interdependent things/pieces/parts... There's nothing within the universe is independent/self sufficient... Premise no 2 : A set which composed upon interdependent things cannot survive with it's own Therefore Conclusion : The Universe is dependent which depends upon an Independent, self sufficient being. You're finished 🔚🏁 .....
@blackpanthar906
Жыл бұрын
@@AliDawah That's strange, Ibn Sina was quite a devout Muslim much as I read about him, he made that argument to prove God's existance to athiests.
@blackpanthar906
Жыл бұрын
@@aa-up4sf He didn't run. I saw the video, it was crazy. He got some serious balls to be there.
@sickopierce
Жыл бұрын
Seeing a man speak up for a religion and use facts and science to back their beliefs is something I have never witnessed growing up around Christianity. I am getting closer to Islam and Allah with each passing day. Pray for me brothers.
@Ash-pp6yt
Жыл бұрын
I will 😊
@Ash-pp6yt
Жыл бұрын
I will 😊
@rajibalam0101
Жыл бұрын
mashallah tabarakallah allahumabarik inshallah allah leads you towards islam bro
@Nom-ri6pr
Жыл бұрын
May Allah Azzawajal increase your iman and help you succeed in both this world and the Akhirah. Ameen.
@Hi-rc7im
Жыл бұрын
So do not forget to leave the fake Muslim ummah. Only wait for the one that will come, you'll learn what I am talking about. You can be a muslim, but you can never be a real Muslim with these or any other group or people. I'm here.
@jinxx44
Жыл бұрын
The guy on the right spoke in a way like he was trying to understand Ali's argument and then provide a counter argument. Very sensible young man. The fellow in the middle on the other hand came off as very, very arrogant, cocky, and over confident. Props to Ali.
@autumnbreeze9537
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I felt the same way as you on this.
@kendricklamarofthe7seas490
Жыл бұрын
Ali: "What is 2 times 2?" Guy in the middle: "Where does multiplication come from and can you define it?"
@mrsundaymorning
Жыл бұрын
History lesson and morality
@BoleDaPole
Жыл бұрын
That's like Jordan Peterson " what do you mean by "what""
@mohammedmuneebullah1347
Жыл бұрын
You make me really laugh buddy 😂
@axmeddahir6487
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@mushfiqahasan2263
Жыл бұрын
@@BoleDaPole 😂😂 that’s made me say, "what? ".😂😂
@xavier4260
Жыл бұрын
" it's the hearts the are that are blind not the eyes "
@jacobmanzoor1897
Жыл бұрын
I am blind. My caretaker typed the message on my behalf. So rude
@jacobmanzoor1897
Жыл бұрын
I like Imran Khan because he allows racism in Palistan but he acts like he will help the people.
@xavier4260
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobmanzoor1897 I like how he/she is so political aware, tell them that I said keep it up 😁
@robertjsmith
Жыл бұрын
The foolish reject what they see, not what they think The wise reject what they think not what they see
@ruppzie8708
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobmanzoor1897 no offense brother but u took a 3th grader as your caretaker cus he said its not the eyes that are blind its the hearts so he wasnt mentioning u by any mean have nice day brother peace
@MrNick-og4qm
Жыл бұрын
I used to be just like these guys…. When you’re that age you feel like you know better than everyone else, about everything. If you notice the smugness on their faces you can always tell who’s an atheist just by that
@sagebaker6426
Жыл бұрын
@Cracxy I prefer Christians because we at least have a similar foundation to start off of and build up to our differences while atheists are devoid of spirituality and far more stubborn
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
True, I also didn't like the occasional smugness. But this doesn't make Ali right. And that's what matters.
@Salam-qx1qv
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah. I dont know why people support ali so much he is just using religion to make money. He is using his own hypothesis and theory to explain random things, it wouldnt be a wonder if quran is rewritten or modified by these idiots(hijab and ali) in the coming years and imposing their false ideologies on us. these hoodlums are just businessmen using religion to make money. Its haram and against ummah
@MrNick-og4qm
Жыл бұрын
@@Salam-qx1qv I’ll be honest Brother I’m a Christian and I’ve been trying to learn more about Islam, Is it alright for me to ask what are some of the things that make you disagree with Ali, and your criticisms of him?
@godwindivine6619
Жыл бұрын
@Cracxy you saying trash how many christians have you talked to? Stfu u and ali Trying so hard to tell the world Islam is the right religion🤮🤮🤮
@husseinafzal2335
Жыл бұрын
I am not gonna lie. Ali Dawah, from the ends; just went head to head with some young brains who are clearly highly educated who pride and believe themselves to be that way - and Ali smashed the arrogance out of them intellectually. Damn right! Well done Ali.
@Manka700
Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊😊lol lol Ml L L
@karimansari6205
Жыл бұрын
افضل الصلاة والسلام على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم
@takuma359
Жыл бұрын
Atheists have much more diverse beliefs since they’re more open to new ideas/understandings. It was inevitable that they would have some disagreements because of this. My problem with religion, in general, is the sheer amount of factors that are universally agreed on in a specific religion. The belief its self that something can be entirely truthful is the very reason many cults and groups have lead to the mass suicide of innocent people. While it can have benefits like living “moral” lives it can also have great dangers. Countless studies have shown that people are more likely to change their opinions based on what the majority believes even if they are certain it is wrong. I’m not saying things like family and community are the reason everyone becomes religious because i know people who have experienced things that they consider to be proof of gods existence. My point is, leaning towards the majority isn’t always safe and beliefs can be very easily manipulated under the right circumstances either intentionally or not. Theres no certain way to know weather anything is true which is why i choose to believe in what i think is most logically accurate (based on the information available to me).
@SM-rf4vr
Жыл бұрын
@@takuma359 cults are different from religion.
@takuma359
Жыл бұрын
@@SM-rf4vr i never said they were the same. Cults are just extremist versions of ideologies normally associated with religion.
@arbabk
Жыл бұрын
“Your argument is not right because it’s old” has to be the lamest point an atheist has ever made 😂
@Samia_19
Жыл бұрын
Exactly 😂 that one was funny It almost gave colonial superiority lol Maybe, just MAYBE prophets were guided to unify humans because otherwise they'd go astray (current state) This wasn't exclusive to the past nor will it be obsolete in the future
@aadiitalks
Жыл бұрын
And you say, contingency and cosmological arguments are the latest theist argument? 😅😅
@uthman2281
Жыл бұрын
@@aadiitalks What is your argument?
@biggiesparxx
Жыл бұрын
@@aadiitalks nobody claimed that. Is it the age or the validity of an argument which makes it reasonable? There are arguments formulated in the antiquity. Are they invalid because of their age?
@Is-de6qk
Жыл бұрын
@@xpacnwo2000 🤣😂 what does that have to do with anything, im pretty sure it isnt so what? lmao
@hk959
Жыл бұрын
I couldnt stop laughing when ali told the middle one to not give him a history lesson 😂😂 Love you ali man haha
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
A history lesson is somewhat important on this, because it shows why these people back then made assumptions based on a heavily flawed understanding of the world.
@cobracobraaa
Жыл бұрын
@@joerdim Nice that you mention, the islam wasn’t brought to the muslims only that time it came to the World. There are verses in the quran that let us muslim know when the day of judgement will be after signs the prophet told us and God in the quran. How can i think that this is a flawed World back than ? The prophet even told the muslims wich hand they need to use to eat. The islam is a complete religion and islam is not getting old only more known because the quran speaks for itself. Try reading it :)
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
@@cobracobraaa Oh, signs... sure. Like in astrology and EVERY OTHER religion out there. Yeah, this is really special. Yawn. Muhammad said that some boy among them will not grow old until Judgement Day arrives. Guess what? The boy is dead since way over one thousand years. I can also tell you what hand to eat with. What is this? Btw, can Islam tell me about traffic regulations? I have already read it. The quran is mostly clueless childish nonsense.
@cobracobraaa
Жыл бұрын
@@joerdim islam could tell you about respect and cautiousness which are the basis of traffic regulations. Btw saying the quran is childish and clueless is one of the most ignorent things to say. I also don’t know anything about astrology, believing in that is haram btw wich Means not permissible in islam, matter of fact its shirk en its the biggest sin. Dont be comparing astrology with relgions.
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
@@Flex-cx7uj It's not "western countries". 😅 It is scientific research and simply what the historical evidence shows. The scientific method is WAY older. You could even say it is as old as humanity. What do you mean by "motion of light"? Even some old greeks already had a picture of light moving with a finite velocity towards the eye. Hygiene has been practiced differently everywhere. Rules to can also be found everywhere. The medieval islamic world just drew on existing rules and got updated again by others later. Like EVERY SINGLE high technology we have today has absolutely nothing to do with the islamic world. Islam mostly just conquered other countries and adapted their scientific discoveries.
@MxrmGxrl4
Жыл бұрын
“Let’s listen to learn, not listen to reply” is an important lesson to learn. Props to this man 👍🏾
@mathias8236
8 ай бұрын
Dude, this guy never listen to learn, he never listen, he only talks, and choose what he listens to to reply
@Floyd308
Жыл бұрын
SubhanAllah, brother Ali, you've improved your knowledge over the years! Proud of you.
@Salam-qx1qv
Жыл бұрын
Besides Saudi Arabia, businesses based in the United Arab Emirates provide "significant funds" for the Afghan Taliban and their militant partners the Haqqani network according to one US embassy cable released by Wikileaks.[189] According to a January 2010 US intelligence report, "two senior Taliban fundraisers" had regularly travelled to the UAE, where the Taliban and Haqqani networks laundered money through local front companies.[187] (The reports complained of weak financial regulation and porous borders in the UAE, but not difficulties in persuading UAE officials of terrorist danger.) Kuwait was described as a "source of funds and a key transit point" for al-Qaida and other militant groups, whose government was concerned about terror attacks on its own soil, but "less inclined to take action against Kuwait-based financiers and facilitators plotting attacks" in our countries.[187] Kuwait refused to ban the Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage, which the US had designated a terrorist entity in June 2008 for providing aid to al-Qaida and affiliated groups, including LeT.[187] According to the cables, "overall level" of counter-terror co-operation with the U.S. was "considered the worst in the region".[187] More recently, in late 2014, US Vice President also complained "the Saudis, the Emirates" had "poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of tons of weapons" into Syria for "al-Nusra, and al-Qaeda, and the extremist elements of jihadis."[167] In October 2014 Zacarias Moussaoui, an Al-Qaeda member imprisoned in the US testified under oath that members of the Saudi royal family supported al Qaeda. According to Moussaoui, he was tasked by Osama bin Laden with creating a digital database to catalog al Qaeda's donors, and that donors he entered into the database including several members of the Saudi Royal family, including Prince Turki al-Faisal Al Saud, former director-general of Saudi Arabia's Foreign Intelligence Service and ambassador to the United States, and others he named in his testimony. Saudi government representatives have denied the charges. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, while it is possible that charities with significant Saudi government sponsorship diverted funds to al Qaeda, and "Saudi Arabia has long been considered the primary source of al Qaeda funding, ... we have found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization."[190] As of 2014, “deep-pocket donors and charitable organizations” in the Arabian gulf, are still providing "millions of dollars worth of aid to Al Qaeda and other terrorist organizations, according to David S. Cohen, the US Department of Treasury under secretary for terrorism and financial intelligence at the time.[191]
@robertjsmith
Жыл бұрын
@@Salam-qx1qv the Saudi's get their Arms from Britain
@watiflappynounou3302
Жыл бұрын
@@robertjsmith …And Pakistan from US
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@robertjsmith
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 Sufism oneness with God not sure about the other lot
@suprememal4353
Жыл бұрын
I wish I could debate as good as Ali mashallah may allah grant us all jannah
@jahankhan8190
Жыл бұрын
you can, if you are determined you will learn and maybe be better than him InshaAllah. Share the knowledge you have on Islam and learn more over time
@halimayusuf8828
Жыл бұрын
It can be done! Yes! But haha i am a horrible speaker😂 if i were to do dawah like brother Ali i would make islam look bad😢😢
@wintertime987
Жыл бұрын
@@halimayusuf8828 O9 l0
@IAmjokerAccuserUponPeople
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😅😅😅😊😊😊😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😅😅😅😅😅
@Zen-pu8gz
Жыл бұрын
people will overcomplicate simple things just so it fits their narrative
@farhanrahman8361
Жыл бұрын
Excatly 😂
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
It would be great if they even could fit their narratives but they couldn't. They are asking questions but when Ali asked questions they didn't have any answers 😂
@Ysqsh
Жыл бұрын
Man they can’t understand universe began with Big Bang and anything that begins is dependent because it’s not eternal. The guy who said nothing is the independent has intellect of a broom stick
@predictezz1047
Жыл бұрын
they were literally telling that ali was doing that while they didnt realize they were
@seahawkwatersports7061
Жыл бұрын
100% correct
@skeptical7422
Жыл бұрын
Guy in the middle 10 years later: "What is necessity my friend?" 😂😂
@daimsaeed
Жыл бұрын
Your friend
@peaceinthemiddleeast
Жыл бұрын
Guy in the middle 20 years later: What is a guy in the middle?
@mohammadareeb1794
Жыл бұрын
Ali should have asked him what is what?
@presidentbusiness6924
Жыл бұрын
We have to ask ourselves what the n in necessity means and why it's necessary.
@peaceinthemiddleeast
Жыл бұрын
@Muslims remember Apostacy Day 22nd of August difference is...my religion doesn't allow me to bash other religions, and I was raised to respect everybody and not fight fire with fire. So you continue spreading whatever you like..just don't claim you fear any type of God when you mock people who worship the same creator.
@shahnawazalikhan5005
Жыл бұрын
Props to this man and people like him who are continuously getting Good deeds done everyday. Imagine the amount of people converting after watching these videos! MASHALLAH brother. May ALLAH bless u more.
@Salam-qx1qv
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah. I dont know why people support ali so much he is just using religion to make money. He is using his own hypothesis and theory to explain random things, it wouldnt be a wonder if quran is rewritten or modified by these idiots(hijab and ali) in the coming years and imposing their false ideologies on us. these hoodlums are just businessmen using religion to make money.
@deuteronomy6411
Жыл бұрын
Hopefully none Muhammad never followed Jesus ,,, Jesus- live by sword perish by sword Muhammed- lived killed forced conversions by sword Jesus - only adultery is grounds for divorce Muhammed - lusted after and got his adopted son to divorce his wife so he could have her Quran- stand firm on books sent before Bible - trust no other gospel Quran- king of kings worse on judgement/ resurrection day Bible- Jesus is king of kings Quran - dis/unbelievers have kuffar on foreheads Bible- GOD’s people will have his name marked on their foreheads
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Where does the path of Muslims lead?
@RR-om3zx
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 The pleasure of our ONE God. No other religion makes as much sense, nor is it even remotely cleaner in authenticity than Islam.
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@@RR-om3zx Tell me please - What is a islamic paradise? Thank you
@sonicneebamur
Жыл бұрын
"what is necessity" the guys still in the park at 3am asking the question hahahaha May Allah guide them
@ahmada.alkaabi459
Жыл бұрын
He speaks very clearly and his sentences are so proper! He has a perfect answer for everything.
@fittalib
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the most liked thing❤
@uthman2281
Жыл бұрын
@@MilitantAntiAtheism Why not? What is your point?
@uthman2281
Жыл бұрын
@@MilitantAntiAtheism If you expect to be taken seriously, you need to know how to frame an argument. Muslims worship black stone is a false claim.
@uthman2281
Жыл бұрын
@@MilitantAntiAtheism If you are looking for paganism I can show you what real paganism is. Believing in human sacrifice is paganism.
@itoryuu403
Жыл бұрын
@@MilitantAntiAtheism this has to be the most irrational statement I have ever read. Islam and paganism in the same phrase ? Muslims worshiping a stone ? Pagan god lah ? Please stop embarrassing yourself.
@ozzieoswald3997
Жыл бұрын
This is how it should be, be calm, even if they disagree..
@smallguy565
Жыл бұрын
may Allah bless us all with Islam until our death and ease the pain of those brothers and sisters out there suffering .Ameen
@samarabbas4489
18 күн бұрын
Ameen.
@shahinabdul6303
Жыл бұрын
In films, the intellectual seems to be atheist, and the believer has blind faith; in the real world, the atheist has blind faith, and the believer appears to be the intellectual.
@jiha8550
Жыл бұрын
So true
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
Both simplified versions of reality. What matters is that religion has no evidence and suffers from the epicurean paradox.
@atgmaiIdotcom
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 the epicurean paradox is one of the weakest arguments against religion and God ngl 😭
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
@@atgmaiIdotcom So how does an all good, omniscient and all powerful god end up creating evil?
@atgmaiIdotcom
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Defying God is the origin of sin. Again, it’s a test that we agreed to have after seeing Heaven AND Hell. “And We test you with evil and with good as trial; and to Us you will be returned.” (21:35)
@MeteorBoy23
Жыл бұрын
Imagine giving up eternal life of happiness, contentment, joy and trading that with eternal life of pain and suffering just because of your ego.
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
Prove that this eternal life exists. Otherwise nobody is aware of anything that's given up.
@MeteorBoy23
Жыл бұрын
@@joerdim ''Do the disbelievers not realize that the heavens and earth were ˹once˺ one mass then We split them apart?1 And We created from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?'' (Quran 21:30). A man in Arabia 1400 years ago couldnt known that our universe was once a singularity and then expanded (which it still is expanding. In the Quran 51:47 Allah says ''We built the universe with ˹great˺ might, and We are certainly expanding ˹it˺'') And then Allah says ''and we created from water every living thing'' We now know that the most fundemental life form in any organism are cells and cells are made out of partly water. Therefore all life was created from water as a basic ingredient of life. All this was recently discovered by science to be facts not more than 100 years ago. It being written 1400 years ago is proof of the prophethood of Mohammed peace be upon him. This is clear proof that God exists, Islam, the afterlife and the day of judgement are true.
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
@@MeteorBoy23 There is nothing about a singularity in this verse and a singularity is not "one mass". Mass came later. The big bang theory states that the universe is expanding, not that something was split apart. "Heaven" is just an abstract concept, it doesn't actually exist, and the "earth" at least didn't exist at the beginning. There is nothing about a "universe" either in this verse. Like everything is wrong in here. Considering other creation myths preceding the quran this seems to refer to some "world egg" myth. You know, an egg is cracked open, its shell is split apart, and the world containing heaven and earth hatches from it. It is often combined with the egg laying in the primordial waters of earth. Hence the water in the verse. Also, every five year old has a picture of all living things needing water to survive and grow. Nothing special about that anyways. Quran 51:47 doesn't say that the universe is expanding. It just says that Allah is the expander of the sky/heaven/firmament, not that he is still expanding them or some universe. This is more like heaven's tent spreading until the horizon. Even if this would be - against all odds - some sort of special knowledge: How do you know that Muhammad got it from some god?
@MeteorBoy23
Жыл бұрын
@@joerdim You are trying to interprete these verses by misrepresenting them to falsify them to fit your world view. So i will leave you with one thing. Death is garantueed and if you die being insincere you will be among the greatest losers. I invite you to read the Quran for yourself and make the decision yourself.
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
@@MeteorBoy23 I am just giving what islamic sources say and comparing it with earlier creation myths. And no, I am pointing out the flaws in you trying to fit it your world view. Verses 21:30 and 51:47 have absolutely nothing to do with the big bang theory or anything similar. The point is that you have no method to dismiss my interpretation and instead favor yours. So you are left with: I don't know. Even more, my interpretation is completely reasonable if you compare it to other religions (which are made up by humans). I have read the quran, it's mostly childish and clueless nonsense like the stuff above. "Death is guaranteed." Ok, that's some advanced wisdom. You are the insincere one if you understood what I just said and still consider this quran verse as some sort of proof. Even if some god actually exists your chances to have picked the right religion is almost zero and you wasted your time in this quite short and actually proven life with religious rituals.
@ashthanvi4137
Жыл бұрын
Knowledge wise, it almost seemed like “Ali” is speaking to 3 kids 😂😂
@noahaleksanderbrynjulfsen3581
Жыл бұрын
No. The closest guy gave the best assessment of the four.
@change4better326
Жыл бұрын
I finally have some understanding of the contingency argument, thanks Ali
@ibnmianal-buna3176
Жыл бұрын
Salaam Alaikum, here's a good video with a Brother explaining the Contingency argument in a different way to an atheist: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pXyip3awsnOHdoY
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
Problem with the contingency argument is that it can't prove that whatever is necessary is a being or that it is like a god of any religion.
@atgmaiIdotcom
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Yes, it can. The next part of the conversation is understanding why there is order in the universe (physics)
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
@@atgmaiIdotcom A "god" that mindlessly creates all the possible universes/possibilities can do the job. There is no reason for it to have any of the characteristics added by theists.
@atgmaiIdotcom
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Do you have proof that mindlessness can do the job?
@XpoolJD
Жыл бұрын
I love how kids can go to some post secondary school and come out thinking they know literally everything. Mashallah
@jamilusalisu8075
Жыл бұрын
Ali the Atheist Slayer ☠️ 😂 That example with Biryani about ‘infinity’ made my day. Jazākumullāhu khayr
@karimansari6205
Жыл бұрын
افضل الصلاة والسلام على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم
@jass8529
Жыл бұрын
No 🤡he just defined dependency by himself
@dabama7483
Жыл бұрын
@@jass8529 hes saying he cant have infinite biryani and if he has finite biryani there has to be a source of infinite biryani for it to come from so hes dependent on the infinite biryani source
@jass8529
Жыл бұрын
@@dabama7483 no. He's saying universe exists in pieces, cannot be any other way and is finite so it's dependent. But it's not the case because universe can be 'interdependent' as it exists in pieces, it's pieces could be interdependent on each other
@jass8529
Жыл бұрын
@@dabama7483 why there has to be a source of infinite biryani?
@fahadabdullah424
Жыл бұрын
Masha Allah, i never knew Ali had this much wisdom. 😇👍🏻
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@The Football State Why did you decide that?
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@The Football State I just asked a simple question. If you don't know the answer to it, you shouldn't call me a troll. When the interlocutor does not have an answer, he turns to insults, right?
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@The Football State I get the impression that you don't want to talk about an Islamic paradise. Isn't there something already confusing you in the description of the Muslim paradise?
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@The Football State ☺️
@mcg1able
Жыл бұрын
This is the best of the internet, open arguments all sides heard
@nickiemmy9177
Жыл бұрын
Br Ali is too patient 😂
@ibnmianal-buna3176
Жыл бұрын
SubhanAllah, it's crazy how much the 3 guys go in circles with Br Ali even tho he's clearly outlined that the cosmos as a category is contingent and logically requires a non-contingent explanation for it.
@amiros_2001
Жыл бұрын
The modern atheist takes the same stance as satan towards Adam. Satan said I'm from fire I'm better than Adam. These lads say we have a brain, we're better than worshippers. Arrogance is the root of disbelief
@tsananeomeno7963
Жыл бұрын
This modern atheist is simply stating there isn't any credible evidence suggesting the existence of a god. It is you who is arrogant asserting a truth that you can't possibly le know.
@isratbithi619
Жыл бұрын
He is not only defending Islam but also Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism. What a legend... 1 v 3... What a legend ❤❤
@mrfeather2732
Жыл бұрын
you can never argue with an atheist period. no matter how much you try, they are just purely ignorant. the only way for them to seek truth is within them selves.
@luqmankiani
Жыл бұрын
As someone who's not British, these guys look very stereotypical British. Just how I would imagine a British person if I was asked to 😂
@DonSavastano
Ай бұрын
These are rich white boys, most white boys aren't rich, aren't as weak and stiff. These guys are rare..
@100liakot
Жыл бұрын
I was there that day, These athiest have been in speakers corner before and were destroyed in arguments by i think Hijab or Hamza, This time they did extensive research and wanted to speak to Ali Dawah with their overconfident attitude... Still they failed the argument, credit to Ali Dawah as it was 3 well prepared educated athiests versus 1. After this debate, The guy in the middle with beige camel coat then spoke to Mansur (You can find this video on youtube) and he really really struggles as Mansur easily wins the debate. They are educated men and spoke nicely, i hope they go home and try and learn from this debate.
@100liakot
Жыл бұрын
@@hsvr im not sure. I was beside them in Hyde park when the 3 of them said, "let's go to Ali Dawah". They really did their best to shut down Ali and later Mansur with all this planning beforehand. But you can decide who won argument on this video and Mansurs video titled scientific fairytale mansur v atheist
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
@@100liakot It's a shame the epicurean paradox isn't brought more often by atheists. There is just no way around it once indeterminism is proven as illogical.
@yourcornercrackhead5584
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Just read it and it's a pretty smart loophole. Evil is a moral adjective to begin with.
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
@@yourcornercrackhead5584 They believe it is more than an adjective because god.
@FaizanAli-cj9el
Жыл бұрын
Mashallah brother Ali. I have goosebumps after watching this video. When you understand the argument being composed from Ali himself, all 3 Atheists were not able to answer to the main argument which was revisited time and time again. They agreed upon the Universe being dependent, they agreed upon the universe changing so it can be composed of pieces, they agreed with the universe not being self sufficient. They even understood the point of infinite not existing, meaning it is finite, allowing them to acknowledge the fact there is a beginning and end, therefore the concept of “nothing” is silly. They agreed with everything Ali said but found stupid ways to get out of saying the truth of “there could be a God” , through points which weren’t relevant to the argument whatsoever. History and Morality which had nothing to do with the point brother Ali was saying. Alhamdullilah this is one of the most beautiful methods of proving existence of an independent deity to an atheist. I have never seen an argument which uses their own logic, reasoning and understanding of science to disprove them. The 3 brothers were respectful throughout and I pray Allah guides them to open their minds and let go of their ego, allowing them to speak what they have just agreed upon with Ali. If anyone can guide them to see the truth and accept it in their heart it is Allah SWT. “Indeed it is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts”. May Allah guide us all onto the right path and keep up steadfast in our deen. Ameen 🤲
@mjhmjh6444
Жыл бұрын
I love your comment, it's kind respectful and comes with a good heart even though you don't understand the 3 young men's argument at all , like the Muslim fella in this video also didn't understand either
@OmairBhamji
Жыл бұрын
@@mjhmjh6444really? I thought that was their argument too. That and they think that the laws and logic we're accustomed to don't apply to the universe as a whole because we just can't know. Could you kindly explain if there's anything else?
@mjhmjh6444
10 ай бұрын
@@OmairBhamji their points were regarding the universe independence, ali could not understand how the universe can be independent and using his argument he will continue to jump to God , wherever if he fully understands the universe he'd never think it's dependency on anything so therefore there's no need for a magical being to explain. I love the Muslim philosophy but it's based on literal magic and we've never ever seen any real proof of magic
@yeskabennis1159
Жыл бұрын
I like Ali's style, his debates are always entertaining and his arguments are logical and to the point
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@HH_1988
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 heaven
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 Tell me where a troll like you comes from and how much money do you make by trolling? 😂😂😂
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@@BrewBun When the interlocutor does not have an answer, he turns to insults, right? I just asked one question without any insults. But for some reason you decided that I was a troll. I'm just interested in hearing the answers of different Muslims to my simple question. I understand that in your understanding, people like me are trolls and Islamophobes, right?
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 Instead of asking about paradise ask about hell. It's a place where people like you will get grilled. Gain knowledge about the place where you're going to go. You ain't accepting the concept of Islam after having clear answers. Try to learn about the place now of because you've already cut the ticket of hell
@RAGEHXARAGO
Жыл бұрын
People think they are “educated” but are really fools. Well done Ali,these3 guys believe they ere genuinely intelligent but I know they second doubted themselves. Your philosophical arguments and furthermore your scientific questioning was fantastic Allahumabarik. Very good points. Also the guy in the middle was shaking his head far too often yet doesn’t know A level physics, make it make sense and act your brain boy.
@SM-rf4vr
Жыл бұрын
Sad when people are highly educated but cannot use simple logic and common sense.
@miguelcorleone365
10 ай бұрын
this video makes it clear how important it is not just to have education and knowledge in our religion islam. It is as imperative to have knowledge of worldly things as science like mathematics, physics, astrophysics, chemistry, biology and other areas such as history, geography, geology etc. and ultimately you have to be very articulate and extremely patient. only with these skills and the existing knowledge can one successfully do dawa inshallah. may Allah bless ali with all his mercy. Ameen ya rab 🤲🏽
@mamadoualphadiallo9463
Жыл бұрын
Brother Ali you've actually made clear for those who want to undestand. Thanks a lot.
@larbibelhandouz3423
Жыл бұрын
Dude in the middle is so full of himself and his ego was too fragile for Ali to beat him in a debate😭
@forrestedmountains7081
Жыл бұрын
Pray for Palestine Afghanistan Chechnya dagestan Somalia Nigeria Bosnia Kashmir Iraq Pakistan India Yemen CAR and other lands Muslims are oppressed.
@helladepp7082
Жыл бұрын
Pray for the ummah
@Lilcousinbruva323
Жыл бұрын
Pray for israel
@historyofislam2796
21 күн бұрын
@@Lilcousinbruva323 what for tho
@zeeshankhalid1241
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the definition of "necessity" and "dependency" needed to be addressed more clearly in order for them to move forward with Ali's chain of logic. The contingency argument does not use "necessity" in a moral sense as Alexey was saying but, rather, a physical sense. In other words, X is "necessary" for Y to continue to physically exist. We don't "need" water because of anything to do with morality; it's a physical need.
@basmaamal2940
Жыл бұрын
In my life, I have not been jealous of anyone, but I am now jealous of you and the brothers who spread Islam and guide many people to Islam. It is a wonderful feeling I wanted to try, but unfortunately I am in a country that is all Muslims, so I decided to look for a husband and give birth to a son from him quickly. I teach him Islam and send him to debate with you, if he wants. God bless you and may God protect you
@ajjsisusus2793
Жыл бұрын
You should not be jealous this whole Dunya was made from jealousy
@basmaamal2940
Жыл бұрын
@@ajjsisusus2793 I did not envy them and I did not wish for this blessing to disappear from them, but rather my jealousy was with good intentions, and I wished that I would be with them, were it not for fate and circumstances.
@ajjsisusus2793
Жыл бұрын
@@basmaamal2940 thank you ok I undertsnad
@basmaamal2940
Жыл бұрын
@@ajjsisusus2793 😁😁don't pretend to pardon
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@ajjsisusus2793 And you're the product of jealousy right 😂😂
@SuperEightOneEight
Жыл бұрын
all my life ive met atheist of various form..some are smart enough to finally come to realization of the truth.. most are just fools and ignorant..,their goal in life are just justifying whatever right or wrong according to any ways that suites them..moral code was just a form of oppression and imprisonment.....may Allah s.w.t grant guidance to the honest hearts...Aamiin.
@ismayilamina90
Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice But that doesnt explain why the god is testing us. Even though he knows everything. and knows how will i end my life. So i really have no choice. Every choice that i make is actually a single choice.
@ahmedbenazzi9094
Жыл бұрын
"Ok who am I talking to " got me laughing 🤣
@ultraphantomx3915
Жыл бұрын
To all the nerds, Infinite ≠ Expanding. Infinite is just there. You can't decrease or increase it or else it is on a scale which isn't Infinite.
@tabassummim8682
Жыл бұрын
The middle guy is straight up annoying and egoistic
@dolphin9876
Жыл бұрын
Best bit was at end when he said "when you have more than one God, its chaos just like with you three!" 😂😂
@DoctorSkillz
Жыл бұрын
Ali’s composure was brilliant. 👍
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@MAKGAMEROP
Жыл бұрын
To allah
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@@MAKGAMEROP Please tell us - what a Muslim paradise is?
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice The perpetually erect penis of Muslims, 72 virgins with appetizing vaginas, beautiful boys, rivers of wine, gold, silk... Is this reliable information or Islamohobic?!
@Ak-rd8ed
Жыл бұрын
Mashallah this brother is highly educated in a lot of different departments 👏
@jamil5522
Жыл бұрын
قال رسول الله - صلى الله عليه وسلم -: ((كلمتان خفيفتان على اللسان، ثقيلتان في الميزان، حبيبتان إلى الرحمن: سبحان الله وبحمده، سبحان الله العظيم))؛ متفق عليه
@np.232
Жыл бұрын
The patience all these men have ..Masha allah..i could never ..but I'm certainly working on it
@ramzijaber17
Жыл бұрын
Mashallah your knowledge has really grown to a deep one Ali. Ps the concept of necessity is not one discredited by science, even if you consider science as a series of observations to understand the chain of events that lead to both the state, development and existence of certain entities, all still have physical dependencies. The guy himself explained a time domain is required for a bottle to drop. Therefore time itself is an entity that becomes a necessary principle for the occurrence of anything within our comprehension. Although time itself, to our knowledge, is also the occurance of certain physical events which take place, such as the continuation of the existence of certain entities (atomic clock). Therefore even to establish a consistent time framework we must agree on a recurring and consistent physical change in an entity such as an atom. This in itself demonstrates that time is linked to a definition that suits our ability to observe something replicable and define an absolute entity (as compared to it being largely arbitrary). God is beyond any such physical dependencies or even definitions. Hence why God himself has allowed us to only know certain attributes of him.
@dr_arcade
Жыл бұрын
I never thought i would hear my islamic aqeedah spoken in such good English, i never thought i would see that
@cyrusahmed5808
Жыл бұрын
I like how civil Ali dawah is he tries to get his point across he doesn’t force it on them and he hears them out to see there perspective.
@uzairahmed8260
11 ай бұрын
I just can't get enough of your videos. I'm afraid I run out of your videos one day, cause these arguments are so good, that it even help me understand better why I believe in what I believe.
@jahner8148
Жыл бұрын
Respect for Ali and his knowledge on this matter. Great example for Muslims
@mediconibba
Жыл бұрын
Ali tried his best against level 100 atheist boss without completing side quests 😂
@FatherMighty
Жыл бұрын
3 100 level atheist bosses
@hypermangi8265
Жыл бұрын
@@FatherMighty or, ali dawah being the boss faced by 3 opponents trying to "tackle" or "take down", in this case, Ali Dawah's contigency argument. 👽
@emir552
Жыл бұрын
You got it upside down bruv, it’s actually three amateurs vs one stupendous boss
@gobah
Жыл бұрын
Level 100 bosses don’t say things like “because it’s inherently archaic” as if that’s an argument.
@AL458ZE10
Жыл бұрын
I LOOVE this debate, just a four distinguished gentelmans having a respectful and polite conversation peacefully
@StarScream7ZZ
Жыл бұрын
Ali Dawah, watching your intelligence in action is awe-inspiring.
@prontocreative2374
Жыл бұрын
Ali Dawah : 1 + 1 = 2 Athiest : OmG thats such an old argument ... come on ... lets leave the past behind and move on . So old fashioned. lol
@basic3496
Жыл бұрын
Yes as Atheist believe that 1 does not even exists, so how can we unify the 1 ± 1 together without the science explaining as to why. Just because Neanderthals would inscribe a line on the wall, how can we conceive the idea it meant "1" .
@aishaafzal3730
Жыл бұрын
@@basic3496 why are you using 1 + many 1 dollarss to buy a phone from which you are commenting while believing that 1 doesn't exist in first place.. did you get an approval from science first? Lol
@basic3496
Жыл бұрын
@@aishaafzal3730 after many days of collaboration with the fellow peers at the lab. We are till confused by your notion & by our default position SCIENCE is always right.
@aishaafzal3730
Жыл бұрын
Confused? I thought you were so sure :D
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@aishaafzal3730 He is sure that he's a troll and must be one of the guy from atheists of this vdo😂😂
@G04623
Жыл бұрын
These guys simply using reverse method they agreed on dependence when it comes to God they simply reverse the logic. Second - when something is made up of composition then it depends on others. And last is all creation depends on one creator (ALLAH).
@shaanyg9052
Жыл бұрын
There was so much that was proven using logic and not religious belief, but they continued to link the idea to religion. This was a massively circular argument here.
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
Sure, because religious people try to use this as the foundation to prove the existence of their god. But even if the universe/cosmos actually had a cause (which we cannot demonstrate) then there is no way to make the transition to some god.
@Salam-qx1qv
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdulilah. I dont know why people support ali so much he is just using religion to make money. He is using his own hypothesis and theory to explain random things, it wouldnt be a wonder if quran is rewritten or modified by these idiots(hijab and ali) in the coming years and imposing their false ideologies on us. these hoodlums are just businessmen using religion to make money. Its haram and against ummah
@jonatand2045
Жыл бұрын
@@joerdim Their god doesn't make sense because it as arbitrary properties like desires and morals that come out of nowhere.
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@jonatand2045 Maybe you believe it because you have these attributes. Pop up from nowhere and is getting trolled😂😂. Hi troll
@MAli-vf1rh
Жыл бұрын
“If you was Alexa I would of said Alexa listen “ 😂😂😂😂 26:13 had me on the floor 😭😭😭
@erwinzer0
6 ай бұрын
How you even prove time is a real physical thing not just the human mind's construct? I saw atheism as an act of uncertainty because science itself is an uncertain, depressing view, science at its best is just a tool Love your work 💙
@buki7490
5 ай бұрын
Facts
@nomansland2931
Жыл бұрын
Life is a Bless but living here is a curse. may Allah bless us with the right path 🙏💯
@BESTO243
Жыл бұрын
the idea of him saying that your ideas are moraly inherited itself moraly inherited which cannot be true because it causes the whole way of agument to fall down because every argumet now can be in the future just moraly inherited 😉😉
@basicbase749
10 ай бұрын
Ali’s aggressiveness shows he is a representative of a warlord NOT god😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@HR-ii6ue
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately some people are smarter than their own good. Went to a top college and uni and it’s unfortunately filled with academics like this
@Blueocean881
Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice Smugness is a good in-between term for it.
@Alpha-tu4yx
Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice u can’t even prove where god came from so u are ignorant.
@Alpha-tu4yx
Жыл бұрын
@Mosaab twice u can’t even prove where god came from so u are ignorant.
@zeshankhan1578
Жыл бұрын
ussalaamualaikum brother MashAllah you've come a long way since you started May Allah continue to strengthen you in knowledge and Deen aswell as us all in the Ummah!
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@zeshankhan1578
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 it leads to a place where the mind will always be at peace, where the heart is at ease and the soul at it purest form.
@leaguegaming8569
Жыл бұрын
@@zeshankhan1578 bro don't even bother to reply him, he's a bot. He's spamming the same questions to everyone.
@zeshankhan1578
Жыл бұрын
@@leaguegaming8569 oh for real 😳 didn't even know good looking out
@karimansari6205
Жыл бұрын
افضل الصلاة والسلام على النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم
@Era-lk1lo
Жыл бұрын
15:40 wrecked Ali 😂😂 he goes straight into talking about his pen.
@Era-lk1lo
Жыл бұрын
18:48 your making the claim why should they give you something to disprove, everything they believe is testable and provable.
@saeed7632
Жыл бұрын
14:22 ALI: "What is the second law of thermal dynamics?" Atheist Number 1: "E =MC squared"😂😂🤦♂
@Simon-it9wh
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@hahaha-sh8no
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@aliyunasir3990
Жыл бұрын
Alhamdullilah for Islam❤
@uzairahmed8260
11 ай бұрын
TBH this discussion was very good. And the reason being they were actually understanding what he was saying and answering with the amount of logical thinking and knowledge they have, unlike people who jump into arguments with their own point of view and without the patience to hear other person's Argument.
@Khannonball
Жыл бұрын
"Why cannot the universe simply be" this is hypocrisy and ignorance of the highest level. We marvel and laud our own inventions and designs, whether that is computers, technology, etc. that all takes knowledge, will and power. Where as the universe, which has superior design, order, harmony that is far more complex just came to be from randomness. Just from your sensory abilities - your vision you should not overlook the complexity of our own body. The way cells behave, proteins, etc etc. Contingency argument is not needed. Open your eyes and your inner inclination, as some point you/we will all have difficulty and we will call out to Allah.
@markh1011
Жыл бұрын
_"Where as the universe, which has superior design, order, harmony that is far more complex just came to be from randomness."_ If something as complex as the universe simply had to have a creator then something as complex and powerful as your creator had to have a creator. This is your logic.
@Khannonball
Жыл бұрын
@@markh1011 I have replied to this in your other reply/comment above.
@markh1011
Жыл бұрын
@@Khannonball What was your response? I don't see it.
@Khannonball
Жыл бұрын
@@markh1011 Neo-atheist Daniel Dennet, says, "there is no such thing as philosophy-free Science. There is only Science whose philosophical baggage is taken on board without examination". He speaks of scientists too, which can be understood as scientists who say "we don't have certain beliefs. We have certain knowledge" lie to themselves because there are philosophical assumptions behind their conclusions. Michael Ruse, a famous Atheist evolutionist, has written a book, "Darwin As Religion", published by the Oxford University Press/ he is well published. He has spoken about evolution as an ideology and secular religion as "a full-fledged alternative to Christianity with meaning and morality, evolution is a religion, this was true of evolution in the beginning and it true of evolution still today". You state yourself Science doesn't disprove God. Richard Lewontin and Thomas Nagle (known atheists) basically say they don't want to believe in God. The latter has written a book saying the last half century of materialist neo-Darwin science is almost certainly false. So we have prominent atheists who believe atheism is a religion and do not want to believe in God because they have chosen this view philosophically for their desires/worldview. This view is not proven by the Scientific method - honest Atheists are saying this. For some even if the evidence of God was manifest many will not believe: "And even if We had sent down to them the angels [with the message] and the dead spoke to them [of it], and We gathered together every [created] thing in front of them, they would not believe unless Allāh should will. But most of them, [of that], are ignorant. Qur'an 6:111“ Regarding the natural disposition in Islam, we call this the Fitrah. This is not intuition or superstition (True Islam does not anthropomorphise God). It is your original nature, natural religion, primary state, and mould. There are more things in the Fitrah which we believe are from birth. Check out Dr Justin Barrett's studies/articles: "A senior researcher at the University of Oxford's Centre for Anthropology and Mind, following several years of research, claims that young people have the predisposition to believe in a supreme being because they assume that everything in the world was created with a purpose. He says that young children have faith even when they have not been taught about it by family or at school and argues that even those raised alone on a desert island would come to believe in God." In your view, we are naturally born with the incorrect primary state - this does not make sense with evolution/natural selection/philosophical assumptions. In Islam, we believe this primary state can be corrupted without guidance. These arguments about contingency/philosophy will only go around in circles forever as you/we can assume what we want without examination. Many arguments can be made on sense perception alone (to see, hear and reflect) regarding the existence of The Creator for people of all knowledge levels. No intellectual gymnastics needs to be done. Sense perception which is what the Qur'an uses and is incontestable against the philosophical arguments that only exist in the mind and is not specific. For example, the physical phone in your hand reading this message is evidence of the actual tangible true existence of the people who made the phone. You know that these people have the knowledge, will, and power, and the phone has a purpose. So let's take this further with biological cells' organelles that carry out different life processes in plants and animals. Studies/research at Edinburgh University through observation has found these cell processes move coded charged molecules with information and instructions inside their structure, similar to how computers send signals through various circuits. The cell's function is coordinated through a network of nanotubes similar to carbon nanotubes inside a computer microprocessor using electric currents. However, this biological cell network is flexible. It can rapidly reconfigure its output depending on the information received and relayed from the nucleus, which no man-made processor/circuit is capable of doing. A Creator here is self-evident with knowledge, design, will and power. There are many examples like this if you reflect but you deny it. However, we laud our creators who create processors/technology with precision, design, knowledge, will and power that have a purpose. The cell's behaviour is superior, which we can observe, but you say it's from chance/randomness/evolution or something similar. "The creation of the heavens and earth is greater than the creation of mankind, but most of the people do not know. Qur'an 40:57" "And He shows you His signs. Now which of Allah's signs will you deny? Qur'an 40:81" The recording of words is the foundation of knowledge. If something is true/beneficial, it does not matter how old it is. "Being old/long ago" is a poor excuse, and I doubt you have read any Qur'an intending to seek the truth. What you believe are words from someone/a group in the past that is emotionally based on choice, on philosophical ideas of the mind and not based on a valid scientific method. The Bible is not comparable to the Qur'an. They are very different in so many ways. The Qur'an is the highest form of Arabic and is used as an authority of grammar and linguistics. Its composition has been studied by non-Muslims saying it cannot of been orally delivered. How the Qur'an was delivered, preserved, recorded, recited and memorised is unique and free from contradiction. (I bet you will look for one that shows your intentions). "Then do they not reflect upon the Qur'an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction. Qur'an 4:82" Please do not take offence in my message to you. If you are truthful, you have to admit the atheist position from the atheist above - whatever you believe. I pray that you reflect and be guided. Also, please don't clip my message with short questions or your assumptions, ignoring my points or diverting away; that's the easy way out. Bring some evidence that is not philosophical (not statements like intuition can be wrong, and Qur'an words are old). I understand writing long messages is time-consuming. You may not have that time, and I don't either, but I wanted to deliver the message of Islam. I probably won't reply to anything further, and you don't have to either. However, if you genuinely want to know more about Islam, I am happy to speak to you/continue.
@markh1011
Жыл бұрын
@@Khannonball You wrote a lot and most if seems pointless so I'm trying to skim for comments to respond to. _"So we have prominent atheists who believe atheism is a religion"_ What?! Dennet doesn't say it's a religion. Richard Lewontin and Thomas Nagle don't say it's a religion. You referenced some person who used the word in the title of a book. That doesn't make it a religion. ....i'm waiting for a point. _"The latter has written a book saying the last half century of materialist neo-Darwin science is almost certainly false. "_ ....and? still waiting... _"For some even if the evidence of God was manifest many will not believe:"_ Because the god described by the followers is not an inspiring being. _"In your view, we are naturally born with the incorrect primary state "_ You don't seem to understand my view. I suggest you don't try to summarise it. What's correct and incorrect in your straw man argument?
@mdkadirkhan7344
Жыл бұрын
Assalamualaikum brother the way u explain the truth to the people's is beautiful.I really appreciate it and offcourse our only creator Allah has helped us through quran sharif which has so many sign that the universe has which is enough to challenge the science and quran already had discovered the things that wasn't discovered by any scientist or any technology..... Allah paak bless you 😊
@alqamahasnain6428
Жыл бұрын
wonderful debate! My understanding in this matter is based on Surah Al-Ikhlas, specifically the last verse: "...Nor is there to Him any equivalent.'" I believe that even our imagination of God cannot be equivalent to Him as an idea. The concept of God transcends comprehension by any being. His attributes, which are infinite in nature and number, are beyond our understanding. We cannot even comprehend the very concept of infinity.
@GhostMajoris
Жыл бұрын
Ask them: Prove that there's no God 😏
@lionheart4552
Жыл бұрын
Ali Diarrhea Is looking very gay 😍❤
@GhostMajoris
Жыл бұрын
@@lionheart4552 tf?
@rafe3028
Жыл бұрын
Burdon of proof fallacy
@Haze_in-bw7ff
Жыл бұрын
if ali tries he can be a great intellectual mind with enough knowledge
@robertjsmith
Жыл бұрын
religion makes intelligent people say stupid things
@Haze_in-bw7ff
Жыл бұрын
@@robertjsmith stupidity originate from narrow-mindedness, ignorance and blatant irrationality. not something that advocates the opposite genius.
@robertjsmith
Жыл бұрын
@@Haze_in-bw7ff when you believe in a god,everything else gets believed in like sin heaven hell,free will judgment day complete nonsense
@Haze_in-bw7ff
Жыл бұрын
@@robertjsmith you don't bother believing .. so why bother calling it nonsense.. the evidence for existence of god is enough to believe such given the criterion which for Muslims is the Quran.
@andydufresne4444
Жыл бұрын
He is trying, can't you see?
@travelsGivesPeace
Жыл бұрын
when someone wants to stay blind, no matter what you show, they stay blind ;)
@amina9935
Жыл бұрын
Ali is so dope Masha’Allah Mash’Allah Masha’Allah Showing respect 💜 Middle Man showed no respect 🤦🏾♀️
@bigboy6103
Жыл бұрын
Well done ALi - handled yourself very well Allahumabarik
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
Tell me please - where does the path of Muslims lead?
@bigboy6103
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 leads to the mercy and forgiveness of the one true God!
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
@@bigboy6103 Tell me please - who are houris?!
@leaguegaming8569
Жыл бұрын
@@bigboy6103 bro don't even bother to reply to him. He's just a bot spamming the same questions everywhere
@doomdesire3460
Жыл бұрын
@@davidbagrationi5806 oh the houris You know the same way you go around sleeping with women in this world You can enjoy your houris in this world You Christians/ atheists go around sleeping with 20 women so your houris were in this world, In the next world believers will have beautiful women made by God it is mentioned that looking at them will put you in awe for 40 years, Also they say that if a hourun was to come to earth All the men in this world would have a war over her Why do you want to sleep around with multiple women in this world when God promises you a spouse that will be even more beautiful every time u see her
@wiseknowin777
3 ай бұрын
These guys are speaking with a level of understanding that they believe is the most superior viewpoint and it's not. They are actually talking themselves in circles, a pretzel even.
@hadjirahmanfamily
Жыл бұрын
Can these two just answer the question without argue and prove their point 😅😅
@marcusbrown9536
Жыл бұрын
Think about this. Ali says that nothing can come from nothing, which means there has to be Allah, Independent and self sufficient. Well if he says the universe can’t come from nothing we’re did god come from. How was allah composed? How did allah evolve?
@johanna4456
Жыл бұрын
Mashallah Ali. I seriously need your patience and your ability to debate. :D May Allah increase me in knowledge.
@jamalal-hussain4908
Жыл бұрын
8:23 bro littered in style frrrrrr
@SlaveOfAllah44
Жыл бұрын
Ali was on form in this one Barakallah fi kum
@ajustman7535
Жыл бұрын
Respectively Larry, Moe & harry trying to disprove contingency.. Masha Allah Brother Ali is on a higher level of intellect...
@alijabbar3744
Жыл бұрын
25:10 "the universe is not connected to human logic" - funny, i thought i heard him describing God for a sec
@mdshahriar8
Жыл бұрын
I feel like giving them the same answer repeatedly is what's stopping them from understanding our logic. And what I've noticed is that people like Ali sorta denies to flow with others arguments and sticks to his own points. Which obviously ain't the worse style of debating but I personally think that sometimes he should run in others race and chasing them down in their own race with our understanding might be the best way.
@mdshahriar8
Жыл бұрын
@Zakaria Hassan Mohamed For people like us, yes we don't necessarily need to try too hard to convince people but for people like Ali that's like his job to give dawah so for him to do the best thing possible in clearing people's misconception is basically what I was talking about.
@BrewBun
Жыл бұрын
@@mdshahriar8 They didn't come to learn. They came to deny the existence of God. How much you give logic they'll deny it and will remain on the process of counter you with different questions. They come to promote Atheism and product of Satan
@SM-rf4vr
Жыл бұрын
@@mdshahriar8 at least he's doing Dawah, some of us watch for entertainment. May Allah reward them.
@Amish07
Жыл бұрын
May Allah continue to give you hiqma brother
@Lilcousinbruva323
Жыл бұрын
Stop promoting a false religion pls thanks.
@nazirahzainuldin183
18 күн бұрын
I am really really grateful and thankful to Allah that im a born muslim, pity them..may Allah gives them all guidance and hidayah
@quranchannel4622
Жыл бұрын
MashaALLAH I am proud of Ali and increased his knowledge
@kelisa4894
Жыл бұрын
These philosophy arguments are amazing and very informative to watch. Thanks.
@ikanberapi2189
Жыл бұрын
the guy with the brown coat talk do be talk like hes reading a poet or a rap, i like that, thats cool
@Ryan-ge1xb
Жыл бұрын
Mashallah ali is so intelligent!! 🫡
@n0orkj
11 ай бұрын
"You're argument proves your point, it's invalid."
@moslimislam5714
Жыл бұрын
Ali to be honest you missed their point. They asked you what your definition was based on. You can ask the question a million times and it will remain unanswered a million times. They kept asking you an equal amount of times what your definition was based on
@uthman2281
Жыл бұрын
What is their point?
@Q8ijin
Жыл бұрын
It is very simple : every dependent needs an independent They all agreed the universe is dependent
@joerdim
Жыл бұрын
@@Q8ijin Why? It's not proven that an infinite regress is impossible. It's just a philosophical consideration forged by the extremely limited human mind that can't grasp this concept of infinity. At 11:45 Ali even established himself that they don't agree that the universe is dependent by quoting them.
@randallfe
Жыл бұрын
@@uthman2281 what is your point? Their point was that Ali creates he’s own definitions and super imposes it on the universe. The universe isn’t ran by Ali definitions
@randallfe
Жыл бұрын
@@Q8ijin they literally said it was independent
@MrAheerOfficial
Жыл бұрын
MashAllah, Zabrdast bhaio, keep it up 😍🤩🤩
@davidbagrationi5806
Жыл бұрын
What’s the concept of paradise in Islam?
@sunsetorchard5171
Жыл бұрын
I think I will try to say what is going on, so the question is what is the universe dependent on? So, then he said it can't be dependent if there being pieces or just things like humans, planets, and stars but if all that was not there it would not be a universe, so the universe is dependent on the planet's stars, etc. to be a universe as being a "universe" is to hold planets and stars, black holes, humans, the sun but there is Allah a "god" who started the universe who was there from the start and is independent and is not dependent on anything. I am just a 12-year-old, so I tried if this has flaws then please reply and tell me
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