I made a couple of errors. Only one pre-battle effect can go off, so there's a bit of redundancy in the second team and the angel hunters buckler doesn't actually work for cavalry against most flying attacks.
@gmoney5772
4 ай бұрын
Yep, only one limited skill triggers at the start, the character w the highest init.
@MrMrkman98
5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure only one start of battle effect works per battle. You have cursed swamp and hastened curse as well as Berengaria's start of combat effect. That's three start of battle effects that wont happen. Well, one of them will go off.
@GideonGrimmGaming
5 ай бұрын
Yeah I disabled any “limited” moves that I didn’t want to proc if I had more than one character with one in a unit.
@LoshJysic
5 күн бұрын
Only one start of battle works at a time, and debuffs are not the same as afflictions. These are two VERY important things to note about that second unit
@kelpyg7301
5 ай бұрын
Alan and Berenice with elite standard from the arena shop is a crazy two team unit that can carry most fights.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
I bet that's just stupid good. I saw the elite standard in the shop and thought it'd be pretty awesome. I was focused on the campaign though and thought I'd pick it up later.
@zantetsukensdao3823
5 ай бұрын
Cavalry Units with Hodrick and General's Pike to buff row of Cavalry is a beast setup. Cavalry call units x 2 with Sainted Knight is balanced.
@AxelsVirtue
5 ай бұрын
My flyer team is: Veronica: Main tank and her Limited skill does a good job of protecting the flyers from their main weaknesses. Also her valor skill can get rid of obstacles. Liza: Secondary tank equipped with the bow that buffs a row of flyers. Fran: Mainly for her valor skill. Hilda: board nuke and party leader. Melisandre: placeholder until I have more angels to pick through. For now she at least provides truestrike and strong single target damage. The main purpose of the team is zipping around with Fran’s valor skill to take enemy siege weapons/towers and clearing barricades/mines.
@ArtorasKnight
5 ай бұрын
Great Video, I love the game so far and its getting really harder now, but still very fun and challenging. With so many units and synergy this game so very addicting. Gonna try to use these builds later :D... Also... wow... I locked up Gammel.... I F.UPED lol..
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
Travis still works great too, if you don't have Gammel!
@zantetsukensdao3823
5 ай бұрын
PP abilities that start at the beginning of battle with Limited are restricted to only one. I think Berengaria and Sylvie's abilities is one or the other.
@unplaya_able5809
5 ай бұрын
Holy Unicorn Blade, Shield and Ring all on Alain? The debuff immune is being wasted? Give him the sword, put the shield on someone else, and the ring on a 3rd person.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
The ring doesn't actually give debuff immunity, but the other two definitely do, so yeah lol. Should have put one on someone else for sure.
@avirei98
5 ай бұрын
Maybe he's not trying to boost your TT. Maybe he just wants the king to wear all the armor The only reason I probably would have spread it. I don't have all those pieces I just have. It's a sword, but the only reason I would spread it is if some passives became redundant. But based on your comment I'm going to assume that multiple of those items offer debuffers assistance. So the shield is probably going to go to whoever I marry because I feel like I'm going to pick clive
@zantetsukensdao3823
5 ай бұрын
@@89Games The ring from beating Gerard guves debuff immunity. I think this is what they meant.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
@@zantetsukensdao3823 ahh, that could be, though I think the unicorn ring does different things too as it's powered up because I know the first version definitely doesn't do what the last one does. I think a previous version might have given immunity, but I'm not sure.
@Dookie4218
4 ай бұрын
Awesome video. I would love to see how you have your other squads setup
@89Games
4 ай бұрын
For sure! I'm actually working on some early to mid game builds right now from my True Zenoiran run, so there will be more unit build videos soon!
@vindex7309
5 ай бұрын
I used a different set up. F: knight, radiant, knight B: X, Gilbert, Witch. The knights strengthen the front line, Gilbert uses initiative buff, and the witch grants units true strike to ensure they kill the enemy team. Both knights buff and follow up on each other and the radiant is there as a fail safe on the unlikely chance the knights don’t just kill everything.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
Gilbert's got some great buffs and I did start using him toward the end, but I might try a unit build in another playthrough that features him. Nice Build!
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
@@89Games agreed on gilbert. Took a while for me to use him too. I think its because hes a "luxury" unit. When you can fit him in, hes excellent. Or another way of looking at it, is he helps you win more instead of helping you not to lose. If that makes sense. This means with 3-4 man squads, its hard to find space for him. In a 5-man squad, he can fit as its easier to check off all your essentials then have space for him. hes also easy to build. Just give him alot of PP so you can guard order a ton (which imo is excellent if you're running evade tanks as this helps them cover truestrikes/multi-hits). his gear is pretty much interchangeable and you can give him extra roles like being the designated user of first aid or powerful call. my setup is: sword: whatever you want. i use hailstorm edge to freeze enemies. acc: sapphire/lapis pendant. acc: raven plume. I like him going ahead of my board nuker. acc: carnelian pendant/ruby pendant
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
i disagree on ridiel. Imo, mid-end game + pushing coliseum early (i got the onyx pendant with a level 30 team facing off against level 50), elven archers are the most important units due to their pure field. Only one that supercedes that is etolinde which is essentially pure field with a heal. Bonus too is she can quick heal the frontline due to the ability to use monk mitre/scarlett's ribbon. Elven archers are just S-tier support units. IMO you also have enough anti-armor with ridiel there. Mystic conferral should be enough most fights. That frees up your 5th unit for something else. I'd take another support like gilbert for offensive order or a mage that can tome conferral your frontline (yes the dmg stacks with mystic conferral). So auch, yahna, ithilion, scarlett or ralianor. i'd pick scarlett for buff removal/extra healing or auch/yahna for control. Make sure ridiel has the highest initiative. Basically what i'm trying to say here is that ridiel, etolinde, lhinalgos and galadmir are build around units. The parts around them are interchangeable but these guys are essential to any midgame optimal team. debuff removal + 1-time immunity is essential to countering angels, wyvern masters/druids and wereowls. When cleansing isnt needed, ridiel can use another good starting ability in rapid shot (set the gambits for both properly) via the bow of quickness. IMO the top 5 start of battle abilities are: 1. boon of the fairies 2. pure field 3. rage of the fairies 4. sneaking edge 5. rapid shot (via bow)
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
Not a fan of doom knights. Berengaria is excellent for that unit. Gloucester is not. You can use another class that can take advantage of the debuffs. Or better yet put a board nuker in so berengaria is enough just for mop up. my fave tactic to take advantage of berengaria is not to use selvie as shes useless once you encounter enemies with cleanse and pure field. What i'd use is someone with a board nuke (yunifi, eltolinde, rosalinde, bruno, morard, hilda with dragoon spear) then have any mage add burn to that board nuke. freeze and stun go away eventually. Burn doesnt which is perfect for berengaria mop up. And that combo isnt as useless as selvie vs. antidebuff as its still alot of dmg. disagree on liza not being able to tank hits. You're just not using the right equip setup on her. The key is to make her a dodge tank so that her guard just comes in vs. truestrike. my liza setup: weapon: frostbloom bow shield: mirage greatshield acc: royal scarf acc: lapis/sapphire pendant with that she has close to travis evasion as the mirage greatshield givesa whopping 50 evade. frostbloom gives 20, royal scarf gives 30. that setup gives her +100 evade before we even get to her base stats. she becomes one of the best tanks in the game capable of handling normal hits, magic and truestrikes while also covering + healing allies.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
nice build with Liza, I'll have to try that in the future.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
nice build with Liza, I'll have to try that in the future.
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
@@89Games that same setup with liza is something you can do on berengaria as well if you want her as your evade tank as shes another greatshield user with decent evasion. IMO her and liza are the best users of that mirage shield. bryce/hodrick/amalia are better off leaning more towards being guard tanks.
@MisterMilkis
4 ай бұрын
They really need to update the horrid translation errors. General's Pike buffs everyone, but the effect only applies when attacking enemy cavalry, so kinda wasted on your cav squad unless you really want them to bully cav enemies.
@89Games
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm starting to see them now too. Definitely need these errors to be patched out, but I've seen much worse. Overall the translation was pretty good, just a shame that the errors that are in the game are in areas that affect building units.
@h1ddensaint
5 ай бұрын
Aerial Guard doesn't work that well on cavalry to protect from flying units as flyers get a bonus against cavalry that make their attacks un-guardable.
@Morfologus003
5 ай бұрын
You can only use one "at the start of battle" effect so your druid has a useless item on her plus you have to choose either Berengaria's passive or the Druid's (if both equiped then the higher initiative procs), same with the third build (Rouge's attack or Wywern Master's Dragon's Roar). Alain's Noble Guard only protect himself so using "prioritize back row" is pointless. Luminous Cover is the one that can protect others. Most flyer's attack (the ones that are dangerous anyway) cannot be blocked by cavarly so the shield cant protect them. You need to find anoter way to protect your cav from flyers or you can kill them before their attack (it is not that hard if you use truestrike buffs from items or from Sorceresses). For the last build you should check the Quick Impetus skill (two items have it), it let's you use charged actions without waiting so yunifi can freeze everyone instantly (while she charges she cant use passives so she cant counterattack). Honestly yunifi is one of the best character in the game in my opinion, so I recomend you try to make a build around her. Another tip is to utilize the different conferral passive skills from the tomes you can find (they are really strong with row and all attacks). These build are not that synergetic (except the Gloucester plus Berengaria combo that's a cool one I'll try it out for sure, I use her only with a druid), you can make much better ones so you dont have any major weakness.
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
Imo the best place to put cavs are the backline. They shouldnt be tanks due to low evasion. thats the way to protect them so they can be free to do dmg. Agreed on quick impetus. I use both hoods, one on yunifi and 1 one on hilda. Agreed on building around yunifi as well. IMO any optimal team is building around these 2 core pieces: 1. board nuker 2. antidebuff agreed on the conferral tomes as well. These are staples of my teams along with mystic conferral/gilbert to buff the board nuker. to share my yunifi team: evade + guard tank + healer= liza evade tank + quick impetus user=ochlys yunifi=board nuke + control lhinalgos=buffer, cleanser, healer auch=control + burn conferral tome user freeze + burn board nuke from yunifi is fun.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
I'll admit, I wasn't aware that only one pre-battle effect went off, that's a big oops on my part there. Alain's defensive skills, I did know, but just failed to remove the unneeded condition from earlier in the game. The shield on Clive was an oversight too... well I'll have to make a new video now lol. Thanks for pointing this all out though, its helped me out for sure, and I'm sure it'll help out a few others reading these comments too. I did see the Quick Impetus items, but regardless of my errors, these builds were still wiping so many enemies that I didn't worry about it at the time. I'll definitely revisit this subject again with some more synergies after playing some more and getting feedback from other players!
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
I've found cav to be decent front line fighters since they still have relatively high defense and can use shields. That said, are they the best? No, but depending on unit setup they can be the best choice in the unit. I have ran with them in the back before too, though. I like to experiment sometimes.
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
@@89Games i'd say they are decent too. just that evade tanks do it better as they're built to do that while great knights are built to do dmg. Knight's pursuit and cav call are the 2 of the best offensive passives in the game, especially for a row of cavs. Every PP wasted due to quick guarding because they are in front is PP not being used for cav call/knights pursuit. personally, i'd switch that formation around and sub out the warrior. I'd put an evade tank in the middle front and ridiel on the sidefront. Yes ridiel cant tank but you have alain in the backline. the evade tank wont need much help from alain and will take most of the aggro. On the few times ridiel gets targeted, you set alain to luminous cover her. an ideal evade tank for that team would be someone like ochlys as shes another one of those few units that are both evade and guard tanks in one. swordfighters like melisandre and leah are good too but they'd need alain to protect them from arrows. ridiel can cover your anti-armor needs. just set her mystic conferral to buff the back row. If you give her a carnelian, all 3 cavs can get mystic conferral and will cutdown most armor, especially if alain has mystic conferral and does spinning edge. mystic conferral doesnt go away after the attack and this just wrecks armors.
@christopherholfeld8137
5 ай бұрын
Eye of the princes and cursed swamp can’t both be equipped. Start to battle effects are all limited meaning only one can go off
@avirei98
5 ай бұрын
We run almost similar to teams but with different strategy. I want to be able to use the debuffing class because I have had a fight take too long because they had two on the enemy team and they were just locking down my entire squads with the attack debuffs with really tanky guys in the front. But eventually I just sent them my flyers because I have them set to like target the back row as quickly as possible with crowd control and that initially just destroyed them. But it seems like a really powerful strategy to completely a lot down an enemy team from being able to crit and weakening their power. If your enemy cannot target your back road and all you have to do is throw some really powerful tanks in the front and the enemy can't really do anything. I haven't been able to promote units yet though, and I'm wondering if that's going to change up my current strategy because my current strategy works for me really well
@TheRobversion1
5 ай бұрын
It will. Promotion is a game changer. It makes certain bad early game classes like gladiators/bruno really good. Or certain units which you thought highly of in the early game to be power creeped.
@tanskygwent5938
4 ай бұрын
Gloucester is pronounced "gl-oww-stir" think like, "Oww, that hurt".
@89Games
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, lol. I don't know why I was having a hard time here lol.
@jacedddd
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing but I don't think these are that great.
@89Games
5 ай бұрын
Fair enough. They worked really well for me, but I'm sure there are much more optimized builds out there. That's the beauty and the curse of a game like this where there are just so many combinations.
@Acctg322Spring2011
5 ай бұрын
Disagree, these are great teams for story mode
@gotaplanstan
5 ай бұрын
@@Acctg322Spring2011 the Gloucester and Berengaria team is not great. Ren also wants to be in the frontline (and in the center too) because of her passive that generates ap. She needs to get hit as much as possible to self sustain, and also increase her damage to snowball long fights
@EpicEstimator
3 ай бұрын
Bro do you realise you're saying "calvery"
@89Games
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, sometimes I enunciate poorly lol. Trying to work on that.
@turtlepug7223
2 ай бұрын
That's not how you pronounce Gloucester
@89Games
2 ай бұрын
Lol, yeah. I don't know what was wrong with me that day.
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